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musKeeto: you start asking questions, you seek the truth..
you seek the truth, 'Yahweh/Allah' dies.

from the beginning, humans have been warned not to seek the truth..

Genesis 2
" The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, [b]“You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, [/b]for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”"

Hmmm! Moskeeto you are a genius. This exerpt from the bible just sprung up a new meaning to the passage. In a metaphorical sense the God who dumped Adam and Eve into the garden never wanted them to have know of anything but they can live as dunb *asses forever. The woman being inquisitive went to search for knowledge and when she sought and revealed the knowledge to her foolish hubby God became angry. Hitherto religion still forbids man from seeking knowledge. If religionist could have their way they would have shut down the internet. A corrupt authority will always seek to conceal knowledge of good and evil in other words the knowledge of truth. The nigerian case is strikingly identical to the religious authority because it is so corrupt it does all to conceal the truth at all cost and if anyone tries to unearth and reveal this truth he is considered a felon.

benodic: the pastor broke a spiritual law; "The law of non-interference". spiritual laws are no respecter of persons. you break them you pay for it, as simple as that.

there is a reason that God has allowed all the different religions to exist. if God did not want it so then there is no way it would be so because God is all knowing and all powerful and has given Its children opportunity to grow according to their level of consciousness.
no one has any right to take that away.

If this story is true as the OP claimed then it onle means one thing and that is 'every deity is powerful in its own region and another one would not dere to trespass or interfere irrespective of how highly placed the visiting deity's adherents are'. Like is stated above, the pastor trepassed beyond his boundaries and he is properly dealt with. How come the pastors god refused to open his eye? There is no deity, wether yahweh, elohim, obatala, sango, esu, ifa, ayilala, amadioha etc that is perpetually/exclusively bad or good. They are like tools in the hands of we humans. We can use them the way we use fire or electricity however if they are mishandled the consequencies may be grave. Reminds me of the movie 'The last air bender' neither the earth benders nor air benders or fire benders are more powerful than the rest. It only depends on how individual benders choose to use their powers wether for good or for evil. My advice for the blind pastor is to swallow his pride and go beg the herbalist and perform all necessary rituals otherwise he can kiss his eyes good bye

I don't want to believe this is true but if it is then Oyedepo has evidently veered away from the religion he strongly professes. An atheist/agnost/humanist will never compelled anyone to jettison their religious beliefs before they render help. Was Yar'Adua a christian? Yet Oyedepo in the company of other lying pastors like him flew to Saudi Arabia to go and see him when he was ill. Wherein lies our humanity? What is the difference between this act and Jihadist acts? Even the book which all christians claim is the word, The Bible, says if your enemy is hungry feed him, no condition was added before the feeding instructions. Though Jesus still complimented this by saying feeding your enemy would meaning heaping burnin coals on their head but this woman is not an enemy, she is family for goodness sake!!!. What have we become? The milk of human kindness is now in short supply because religion has created a gaping hole in the cistern that is supposed to hold this milk. Do you now blame some of us for hating religion and everything about it, especialy the religion that is flavoured with the Nigerian seasoning. Again I stil do not believe Oyedepo said this even though I dislike the ground he steps on I wil take this as an ordinary rumour.

Billyonaire: There are universal laws and we also have man-made laws. God set their natural cosmic laws in motion and we cant alter the course of nature. But humans also set their own laws in motion and God will not interfere with them. Example, God created Indian hemps and coca leaves used in making cocaine, but man-made laws states "Kill or imprison" anyone caught trading or using these natural creation. Reason with me; Is God upset when you smoke hemp or sniff cocaine ? Hell No!!!, this is man-made law and God wont interfere. Will man get away from the Karmic laws or gravity, Hell No!!!. So your quest for money, your ways of life, your dealings with fellow humans are your business. God Doesnt Care about it. God has their business and they mind it. You must learn to wade through the different laws that govern existence.

SECONDED, EVEN THIRDED and FOUTHED. You have just defined what relationship Exists between God, cosmic laws and humans

Dhelake: hez less talked about

No he is still the same Nigerian God just another variant

akpu nku: bros fredoo made it clear it wasnt his piece, he even added d link to the post so why the hate?

sorry bro, in my post I said am not sure he cited his source HENCE (conditional statement) he is a plagiarist. Meaning I may be wrong about him citing his source and if am right then he is a plagiarist thats why the word 'hence' is there. Thanks for showing me he cited his source

Enitsua: Fredooo dis article made me laugh, u r rilly creative, u hav inspired me to write a peice at least after my exams...pls pray to d Nigerian God to help carry out exam malpractise without being caught (just kidding)

No bros, fredooo did not write the article. He copied it from another creative writer on the internet. The article had been on facebook for about two weeks now. Am not sure he cited his source hence fredooo is a plagiarist. The article was written by Elnathan John for DailyTime, July 19, 2012

double post

When clueless GEJ changed UNILAG to MAULAG all you haters were busy jubilating, feeling cool and happy that all the swags would go down. Now the University is ranked highest cos of web presence and all you haters want to hug transformers. Na we talk say make una no do well for JAMB? One thing is true, nobody ever 'beefs' someone he is better than, we only beef someone who is better than us. All your beefs are out of envy. All of you should start searching for your rural schools on google, sooner or later a rating agency may pick your school but as we speak today it is UNILAG

Albert708: the way you her talken is obvious that you are not a christian if you read your bible very well you will know that God said you should not juged or call another false.

Where in the bible was it said that you should not judge?

Pastor Kun: On the contrary if the evolution myth is true, one would expect that after millions of years of trial and error, evolution should have gotten it right by now and eliminated all diseases. Thanx for bringing up this topic; another glaring evidence that the theory of evolution is full of holes and it's delusional.

Wrt the bolded....evolution is not a person who performs trial and error and get things right. Evolution is a process and it is a continuum. It does not have a destination, it doesnt have a plan or target of what it tries to achieve. We see micro evolution everyday, bugs develop immunity to insecticides, bacteria and viruses develop immunity to drugs over time..... even we see some kind of evolution in humans... What do you think is the cause of sickle cell?
God on the other hand in personified, yet there are diseases, when you people say sin is the cause of dieases, was it after Adam sinned that God created bacteria and viruses. If Alexandra Flemming was thinking this way, he would have discounted the power of penicilin.
Google is your friend

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]you are speaking to a man who has pis.sed in the backyard of a mosque.[/quote]Did the imam find you out? What happened afterwards?

FXKing2012:

It's obvious u have no understanding of politics. Now let me school u: Hitler lost election on a number of occasions and he had to use the church as a means to attain the position he so craved. Germany was, and still is, a deeply Christian country; if u are not a Christian there is no way u can be elected into office. So Hitler simply used the church to achieve his aim - get that into your head!
In fact, the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), with its sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU) in the same parliamentary group, also known as CDU/CSU or the Union make up two of the three strongest groups in Germany today.

Hitler's Statements against atheism

Hitler often associated atheism with bolshevism, communism, and Jewish materialism.[63] Hitler stated in a speech to the people of Stuttgart on February 15, 1933: "Today they say that Christianity is in danger, that the Catholic faith is threatened. My reply to them is: for the time being, Christians and not international atheists are now standing at Germany’s fore. I am not merely talking about Christianity; I confess that I will never ally myself with the parties which aim to destroy Christianity. Fourteen years they have gone arm in arm with atheism. At no time was greater damage ever done to Christianity than in those years when the Christian parties ruled side by side with those who denied the very existence of God. Germany's entire cultural life was shattered and contaminated in this period. It shall be our task to burn out these manifestations of degeneracy in literature, theater, schools, and the press—that is, in our entire culture—and to eliminate the poison which has been permeating every facet of our lives for these past fourteen years."[64]

In a radio address October 14, 1933 Hitler stated, "For eight months we have been waging a heroic battle against the Communist threat to our Volk, the decomposition of our culture, the subversion of our art, and the poisoning of our public morality. We have put an end to denial of God and abuse of religion. We owe Providence humble gratitude for not allowing us to lose our battle against the misery of unemployment and for the salvation of the German peasant."[65]

In a speech delivered in Berlin, October 24, 1933, Hitler stated: "We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."[66]

In a speech delivered at Koblenz, August 26, 1934 Hitler states: "There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles."[67]

During negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordat of April 26, 1933 Hitler argued that "Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith."[68]
The above is from wiki. For further reading......
http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
http://ahquotes.tripod.com/

FXKing2012: Hitler went to a catholic church doesnt make him a Christian. Dekung attends MFM, his wife is something of a pastor at MFM and his house is used for house fellowship yet he is an atheist to the core. Attending church does not make a person theist or a Christian, people attend church for various reasons. Why is your head so blocked to understand this?

lmfao......rotfl.....lwkmd..... FX who gave you my details? Honestly when I read the above statements I almost fell off my seat.
Ok back to the post (still laffing),
I, dekung, do not attend MFM. I USED to attend Daystar and I have stopped attending since last year. My wife is still a good christian because I want a happy home and if she is happy going to church why should I stop her? So long as her actions do not run foul to the laws of the land and not threaten my marriage or jeopardize the health of my two beautiful children, I dont have any problems. My wife still attends Daystar and she is a personal friend to Pastor Nike Adeyemi. I still alow House fellowship in my home out of courtesy to the attendees. I leave the house for them whenever they start their delusional gathering. In fact I av even reshaped my vocabulary such that I dont use the phrase 'Thank God' anymore in mid sentence, rather I use 'thankfully'. Adolf Hitler, never at any point claimed to be an atheist. I may be wrong tho but please provide quotes to show his atheistic stance not the comparative suggestions you are using here.

@Op,
get yourself some empty beer and cocacola cans, fill them with saw dust, attach two wires to the cans (blue, red and green wire), connect the other end of the wire to some AA size batteries. Couple the wires, batteries and cans to a spoilt wrist watch. This is an amaateur IED but it sure cannot detonate. Drop the IED carelessly somewhere arround the church making sure to expose a little part of the battery and can. I can bet it with you that once the church sees this, they wont hold service for a long time.
PS:
Dont get caught

The Nigerian God is also a pauper and begger yet his leutenants claim he is very rich hence worshippers should give to him to fund massive self agrandizing projects (which of course is to feed the ego of these leutenants) so that he can bless them (worshippers) back in a thousand folds. This Nigerian God strikes me like a jackpot or is it baba ijebu. rotfl...... i cant stop laffing

lilcutie8916: i am sure non of u atheists have been to a crusade before, cos there u will see the awsome power of GOD where the lame walk the blind see the deaf hear and all typesa of miracles happening in front of ur very eyes. Even in the presence of all these u still dchnose not to believe. This only shows that u re not as intelligent as u claim u re or the devil has just choosed to make u his play things. So any type of arguement any one raises here is just a waste o time because ur hearts have been hardened even though the truth iks staring u in the face. So just because u dont like something doesnt mean it isnt true so i wish u all well in all ur endeavours and may GOD be with u.

em.....crusades or what did you just say now? Please you need to understand most atheists/agnosts here were once theists who believed in the same things you are holding tenaciously to as true. A lot of them were of the christian faith and hence attended the crusade you are brandishing as evidence of 'the power of God in action', however they took a turn when they decided to make sense of the nonsense that is taught in churches and the lies brazenly propagated in crusades. Now how would you explain somebody who is supposedly blind from birth to regain his sight and immidiately able to differetiate yellow from pink? how would you explain someone is supposedly crippled for years jump on his feet and start running about. Are those actions not suspect? How come no amputee has ever had his limb grow back, how come those people whose limbs have attrophied visibly Never get the much touted healing. Instead of these challatants to own up their lies they claim these amputees and cripple did not have enof faith. What a cheap get away. So many of these miracles have been investigated and have been shown to be all staged.

Reyginus: Frank3 pls attack the question and not the poster.

The topic raises more questions that are begging for answers. Was the OP a witness to the event or was it just hearsay? From the tone of writting it is more like an hearsay rather than a first hand witness.

How to worship the Nigerian god




blog | July 12, 2012 - 5:53am | By Elnathan John



The Nigerian god is one. It may have many different manifestations, but it is essentially different sides of the same coin. Sometimes, adherents of the different sides may fight and kill each other. But Nigerians essentially follow the Nigerian god.

This article is for all those who want to become better worshippers. If you are a new or prospective convert, God will bless you for choosing the Nigerian god. This is just how you must worship him.

First, you must understand that being a worshipper has nothing to do with character, good works or righteousness. So the fact that you choose to open every meeting with multiple prayers does not mean that you intend to do what is right. The opening prayer is important. Nothing can work without it. If you are gathered to discuss how to inflate contracts, begin with an opening prayer or two. If you are gathered to discuss how to rig elections, begin with a prayer. The Nigerian god appreciates communication.

When you sneak away from your wife to call your girlfriend in the bathroom, and she asks if you will come this weekend, you must say—in addition to “Yes”—“By God’s grace” or “God willing”. It doesn’t matter the language you use. Just add it. The Nigerian god likes to be consulted before you do anything, including a trip to Obudu to see your lover.

When worshipping the Nigerian god, be loud. No, the Nigerian god is not hard of hearing. It is just that he appreciates your loud fervour, like he appreciates loud raucous music. The Nigerian god doesn’t care if you have neighbours and neither should you. When you are worshipping in your house, make sure the neighbours can’t sleep. Use loud speakers even if you are only two in the building. Anyone who complains must be evil. God will judge such a person.

Attribute everything to the Nigerian god. So, if you diverted funds from public projects and are able to afford that Phantom, when people say you have a nice car, say, “Na God”. If someone asks what the secret of all your wealth is, say, “God has been good to me”. By this you mean the Nigerian god who gave you the uncommon wisdom to re-appropriate public funds.

Consult the Nigerian god when you don’t feel like working. The Nigerian god understands that we live in a harsh climate where it is hard to do any real work. So, if you have no clue how to be in charge and things start collapsing, ask people to pray to God and ask for his intervention.

The Nigerian god loves elections and politics. When you have bribed people to get the Party nomination, used thugs to steal and stuff ballot boxes, intimidated people into either sitting at home or voting for you, lied about everything from your assets to your age, and you eventually, (through God’s grace), win the elections, you must begin by declaring that your success is the wish of God and that the other candidate should accept this will of God. It is not your fault whom the Nigerian god chooses to reward with political success. How can mere mortals complain?

The Nigerian god does not tolerate disrespect. If someone insults your religion, you must look for anyone like them and kill them. Doesn’t matter what you use—sticks, machetes, grenade launchers, IED’s, AK47’s.

The Nigerian god performs signs and wonders. He does everything from cure HIV to High BP. And the Nigerian god is creative: he can teach a person who was born blind the difference between blue and green when the man of god asks, and he can teach a person born deaf instant English. As a worshipper you must let him deliver you because every case of sickness is caused by evil demons and not infections. Every case of barrenness is caused by witches and has no scientific explanation. So instead of hospital, visit agents of the Nigerian god. But the Nigerian god does not cure corruption. Do not attempt to mock him.

If you worship the Nigerian god, you are under no obligation to be nice or kind to people who are not worshippers. They deserve no courtesy.

The Nigerian god is also online. As a worshipper, you are not obliged to be good or decent on Facebook or twitter all week except on Friday and Sunday, both of which the Nigerian god marks as holy. So you may forward obscene photos, insult people, forward lewd jokes on all days except the holy days. On those holy days, whichever applies to you, put up statuses saying how much you are crazy about God.

These days, the Nigerian god also permits tweets and Facebook updates like: "Now in Church" or "This guy in front of me needs to stop dozing" when performing acts of worship.

In all, the Nigerian god is very kind and accommodating. He gives glory and riches and private jets. And if you worship him well, he will immensely bless your hustle.

http://dailytimes.com.ng/opinion/how-worship-nigerian-god#.UAiCDts-1s0.facebook

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Of course you would want to take a cheap shot. I'll answer you yet again: What they did goes against christianity even if they claimed to be soldiers of Jesus.

God isn't pleased with their actions, I am sure of this because God has made Himself manifest to us through Jesus Christ and what those people were doing does not in anyway portray the life of Christ.

What they have done is wrong.

Besides (...and here's me taking my own cheap shot) How do you know that what they have done is wrong? since according to you, morality is subjective depending on society and obviously in that society, cannibalism is good, not so?[/quote]The argument you advanced here is the same argument an average muslim would advance when discussing Boko Haram, Al Qaeda et al. However, one common denominator is that this evil has religious inclination. If these people are not christians then what religion do they practice (remember they were singing 'soldiers of Jesus in Hausa')? If Boko Haram people are not moslems then what religion do they practice (Remember they still bent on islamising nigeria)? The bottomline is both religion are so maleable they can be twisted by any craftsman. If there is a real deity behind these religion, that deity must be very evil because despite its omni everything it cant control its followers. Shame on the Abrahamic God these people believe in because he is either powerless or merciless

I wonder wether the only thing important to us is religion. What happened to life, whatever happened to humanity? Voltaire has captured..... whoever can make you believe absurdities will make you comit attrocities. I never believed this could happend in the 21st century but alas.... welcome to Nigeria

Viewer discretion is adviced as this contains gory details of cannibalisation.

“Our lives begin to end the moment we become silent about things that matter” – Martin Luther King.

http://zainabusman./2012/02/04/video-of-the-cannibalization-of-muslims-in-jos-where-is-our-humanity/

musKeeto: A link for tilapia
www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/kevincarter.htm

Thank you so much for this link Moskeeto. Now tilapia doesnt have to be unsure again. I believe also that her madness would have come down since shell has decided to clean up the oil spil in her part of the ocean.

[quote author=tpia@]1.The picture is fake and
2.i believe the photographer apologized for presenting it that way,
3.although i'm not sure.[/quote]Seriously, is there any sense in what is written up there. Is there an Iota of meaning in it? You made claims as if the letter of apology was addressed to you only to turn back and say you are not sure. Did you fall of the stoopidity tree and hit your head on every single branch on your way down? Read your post again and see if there is sense in it.

brainpulse: I dont believe in dreams also because I have not dreamt before. Please proof that dreams exist[b]

I dont believe in dreams also because I have not dreamt before. Please proof that dreams exist[/b]

I dont believe in dreams also because I have not dreamt before. Please proof that dreams exist

I'm not sure I said anywhere that dreams exist. I only tried to explain how it comes about. Dreams can be grouped in the same category as thought only that dreams come in during sleep. I used to be scared of my dreams too until I understood it is just a bye product of experiences and imagination.

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JIL: Why are you whining. Thank your stars you were not banned from planet earth. Now go and do something more productive with your time.

Meaning you or your cohorts could have him killed? ...... nd Seun or any of the MODs to not see any reason to ban a blood thirsty millitant like you is a mystery to me? smh

tobechi20: Think am clear on that.

That means atheism has no book or commandment, then ones actions depends on d situation and the individual.:
the individual reasoning partialy depends on his education and exposure.
Hence a ten year old who has not reach the age of reasoning cannot be an atheist.


Løoking at evidence, must everything be prooved b4 we belive.is seeing an evidence??

DREAMS

lets assume that you dream. But there is no evidence to show that.no scientific or otherwise explanation. SO SHOULD you BELIVE THAT DREAMS ARE NOT REAL

YOU SEE GHOST, MANY HAVE SEEN GHOST, but there is no evidence or proof of GHOST existence. SO I SHOULDN'T BELIVE IN GHOST EXISTENCE??

Newton first law of motion states 'Every body continues in it state of rest or uniform motion unless compelled by an external force to act otherwise'. This statement holds true universally, even as far as religious beliefs are concerned. Every child is born atheist/agnost and would continue in that line unless compelled by his/her parents or society to believe otherwise therefore a ten year old who has not be exposed to any religious teaching would most likely not believe in God.
Your question about Darwin being the forst atheist is NOT true as there have always been athiests for as long as human have been in existence.
DREAMS are intangible thoughts in your mind. They are a product of your life experiences twisted together in your subconscious mind and they occur just when you are close to waking up (REM period)
GHOSTs are just a figment of someone's imagination. The question I would point to you is have you seen a ghost before?

@OP,
Did you do geography in secondary schl? Did you learn anything called longitude and latitude? These are lines that run accross our dear planet at regular intervals dividing it into time zones by a function of distance and location. Thus when it is 3am in Nigeria, it probably 9 or 10 pm in the US and arround 2am in Ghana or UK depending on the adjusted time. If evil spirits actually existed and cast spells at 3am, they would have a lot of work to do going arround the globe searching for 3am locations. This is just superstitious bull crap just Like the 3pm hour of mercy observed by the catholics