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I thought Obasanjo was the Messiah. Abi na every eight years Nigeria dey change Messiah?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/library/History/King_David.htm

It was you who wanted clarification.

All am saying Mariory, is that nobody pure. My friend davidylan is against Arabs because the Arabs say they will destroy jews (he said and christians, but I haven't heard that). I just used these links to show that jews don't say they're going to kill you. They just go ahead and kill you.

What we forget (or in some cases, don't know) is that before Palestine was finally decided on, the earlier plan was to relocate the jews to Uganda. If that had worked they state of Israel would have been formed in Uganda, that is how they would have been slaughtering Africans and we will say "O they are God's chosen people".

What people do not understand is that till the 1940's Israel was not a particular location, it was a "society of migratory people". Wherever they laid their head was Israel.

There are things that should not be mentioned because majority(99.991%) of people alive today don't know. So we keep them secret to avoid sounding crazy.

But you go and search for "the Ugandan Program" .


Finally, there is no community that doesn't want peace. Definitely if Egypt evacuates Palestinians from the Gaza into Egypt and Syria or Lebanon absorbs the ones on the West Bank, and all countries decide to strictly enforce laws against their citizens to prevent them from attacking Israel, there will be peace. But is this achievable? Even the Palestinians don't want peace anymore.

There MAY be a war. A very devastating war. Israel vs Lebanon+Syria+Palestinians, US+Australia vs Iran+Jordan+Iraqis+Afghans.
The British will hold back, the Egyptians and Saudis will hold back.
France, India, China and Russia will make billions off weapons sales.
Africa will maintain neutrality; the AU will hold the North African Arab countries from joining the war. The EU will remain neutral too. Broadcasting news.

It will be very ugly.

There is no reason for you to compare a democratic or even pseudo-democratic government on any level. During Buhari's regime, grand parents were knelt down and flogged in public for jaywalking. Even if I was an indigene of the French Riviera, with that kind of government, I would migrate to Mali.

Re: Firms Struggle In Crumbling Nigeria
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6445125.stm


I refer you to that article on the BBC website which had so much to say about the City of Lagos. Now my question is:



Has jeff now gone to BBC? Has the BBC gone so low as to be picking up rejects like Jeff Koinange from CNN Because this whole story just reeks of him. Well, Really wouldn't blame them because even britain itself is picking leftovers from the plate of the US.

By the way, this Mr&Mrs whatever they call themselves they paint the picture of a perfect MAGA. Yes that's the only word I can use to qualify them, maga. Look it up!

How can anybody say his landlord is kind for asking for 2 years upfront? In this Nigeria? That is KIND? So ordinarily the average landlord asks for 5 years rent upfront? I cannot imagine how much the wicked landlord asked. Or maybe I can. Maybe he'd ask them to buy the house.

Then they complain of corruption and mismanagement. Imagine a slowpoke who buys a N300,000 secondhand generator to power a 12x14 sq foot room, a place smaller than my bedroom.

Imagine if President Yar'Adua approves a contract for Dangote to supply one million generators for small scale tailors at N300,000 each. Won't they scream? Much less when they find out that the generators imported end up to be secondhand. Is this not the type of corruption and mismanagement that is going on within this family's own household? Imagine this same family put in a government position, they will total obliterate that $40 billion foreign reserve in a matter of weeks. Without even knowing they were doing anything wrong. This is the kind of crass stupidity you find among some champions of the so called Nigerian masses.

Lastly, I had to find out the location of this fruitful bridals workshop cum showroom. 63, Kudirat Abiola Way, Ikeja, Lagos. Now I can hardly describe the dualised sixty feet wide, Grand Kudirat Abiola Way, as a narrow alleyway. Whosoever wants to argue that should forward comments to the Lagos state government. Kudirat Abiola Way is betters most streets (90%) in London, the English capital.

I'd rather have that article read: A FIRM STRUGGLE AT CRIPPLING NIGERIA!

Anyway, I will contact the bbc on this, I will contact the Nigerian Ministry of information, the Lagos state government, the british council and the Irhiuwobas themselves, owners of the Fruitful Bridals, in order to ascertain the veracity of this story and seek better clarification.

Oh not forgetting the efcc, because this may just come under the definition of an economic crime. Economic Sabotage!


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Ehn, yes. It is definitely a lie that Nigeria is making nuclear weapons but all these oil-hungry countries don't need it to be true before they IRAQUISE us

so abeg help me beg that boy to hush it.

The people wey dey complain say Nigeria bad, make dem quick jand O! No more space in Lagos. I dey Magodo G.R.A, traffic bottleneck at the gate, I move TO Lekki, total standstill on the Lekki expressway.

Abeg, those of you that cannot stand the situation make una commot! Go Cotonou, go Yankee, I don't care. Just get out and let's have living space.

No shaking then.

@9ja4eva

you mean Iraq was not attacked under the premise of having WMDs? Please enlighten me!

I really hope nothing will happen and that they are tight.

I hope these MEND people do not kill the man Dokubo because coming from detention, his mind may not have tuned up to their more radical tactics employed over the last three years. A lot of the individuals there may begin to realise he may have become like the Frederick Fasheun or the OPC, and they may be needing a Ganiyu Adams.

That is the whole problem with starting these groups: objectives begin to change.

It doesn't matter who gets credit for stable power supply in Nigeria.
In fact, it is the question of credit that baffles me about OBJ. How the man could increase fuel prices and take the blame for it instead of letting the Yar'Adua government take the discredit. The building the foundation for stable electricity in Nigeria and letting the Yar'Adua government take the credit for it.

It is either the man is crazy or he's a true soldier, a national hero. I couldn't see myself sacrificing my integrity like that.

Now that we have vigorously debated the best tribe, I think we have finally reached a level of maturity where we can begin to determine:

What is the complexion for Nigeria.

I'm starting this new thread next week to enable everyone gather enough information on what exact shade of skin colour you feel will rule Nigeria best.

Since we're always finding ways to segregate ourselves.

@kitaun

na you sabi. Whatever group or agency you're working for, that's your own sack of Garri.

If I wasn't ignorant of what happened to the money do you think I would be asking?

It is a fool like you that will be ignorant of events and will shut up. Me, if I don't know, I ask.

@ laudate

It couldn't have been written that "there was incontrovertible evidence that Abiola planned with Abacha to topple the ING" because you just made up that statement some moments ago. Unless of course you're trying to attribute the writer of that article with metaphysical journalism.

My question to you though is how you managed to skip that part of the article earlier when you took on the task of reproducing it.

Let's stop deceiving ourselves if we really want this country to get any better. Abiola was a bad man.

To make him a national hero is to give our parents the belief that if they too had used the opportunities they had to loot this country, they would have gotten medals of honour. I will not make my mother regret being an honest citizen.

My father was a Senior manager in the CBN at the time of his death. He had 4 official cars and 2 official houses but not one single personal car and just one self contain house which he built in Benin while working in the Railway Company. I look at the man's death certificate everyday. Everyday and I know he was an honourable man.
Most people don't know what those words mean.
Glory, Honour.
You don't know what it takes to build a country.
In a country like China which is very strict with corrupt people, Abiola could be hanged for using bags of rice as election bait. And here you can boldly say "just because he gave out rice".

So you now want us to immortalize Abiola so that our youth will start dreaming of how they can pull contract scams on government like Abiola did. You want to send a message to them that crime is okay as long as you have a landslide victory at the polls?

Abiola's one of those past Nigerian celebrities I have booked an appointment for. I will find his grave, and I will desecrate it, I will dig it up and toss his coffin in a refuse dump. Death is not the end of his suffering.

I take personal interest in this man because I imagine the effort people like my late dad put into developing this country and I realise that Abiola has singlehandedly nullified him and about 5,000 other hard working honourable men who believed the Nigerian dream and tried to pass it on to us.

@Mariory

1)
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/lavon.html


2)
www.ussliberty.org/report/report.htm

shey you see these two links so? They belong to the two countries involved. Official websites. No be my papa be their web admin.

You just said that you were only making a suggestion so that our leaders would dress fine on formal occassions. Would that not mean that right now they are dressing ugly?

This what the Movement for Actualization of Second Slavery is all about a gradual mental picture that the things of your colonial slave masters are fine, and yours are ugly. That theirs is good and yours is bad. That is how MASS works. It is not a physical movement, it is mental. But we're going to crush it all the same.

And I dare say one member of MASS going by the name of watchung said if he/she were in charge, every government worker will be mandated to wear a suit.

@auwal

please stop lying that Nigeria is developing Nuclear weapons. This is the kind of stupid rumour that caused the Iraq massacre.

It is interchanging the words "jew" and "israeli" or the words "muslim" and arab that has reduced a lot of people's thought pattern into making huge judgemetal mistakes.

Those words are not interchangeable! When you hear that 10 arabs have been killed, you don't even bother to ask how many of them are christians and when you hear that a suicide bomber has killed 20 israelis, you don't bother to know how many of those israeli killed were muslims. That is what is fuelling this war. Religious sentiment.

Judaism may not have been derived from the root word jew, but jew is derived from the word Judah and so did Judaism. And don't go telling me that Jesus came from the lineage of Judah unless you're about to prove that Joseph the carpenter begat Jesus.

And since you say Judaism has nothing to do with the word jew. Hmmmmm. This is one of your many unilateral declarations that I've warned you about abi? Okay then where does the word jew come from? Did prophet Muhammed pull it out of his arse just so he could use the word to haunt the descendants of Judah? I have warned you severally of making all these your conclusive guesses.

JUDAISM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORD JEW?!

And earlier, you claimed that
"the religion of jews is Judaism"

now you say "it has nothing to do with jews"

You keep belting out these unguided statements at will.

A jew is an adherent of Judaism as a religion and culture.


Anyway, I bless you with this link. I hope you will read and undertand it. This site is not by muslims, it is not by christians. It is for Jews by Jews.

www.hearnow.com/caljp.html

I hope you will see what the Romans did and What the Christians did to jews. Follow on through the Crusades, and down to modern day, then decipher if Hitler was killing jews in service of the church, or because he imagined he was Roman or "just because". Find out on your own too whether Hitler had any pact with Pope Pius enabling the slaughter of 6,000,000. That you should search on your own.

I've always known that the jews were maltreated at the hands of the Christians but till I read this page a year ago, I didn't know how bad it was.
That's why I say THEY WILL NEVER FORGET!

And I put your own MAD question to you. If a Nigerian Converts to Judaism, doesn't he become a jew?

This is the most farfetched question I've ever heard. When I say farfetched, I mean it literally that that your question came from Pluto.

@I-man

please, I beg of you. I know we've had our differences, but please tell davidylan that being jewish is not a nationality. I'm on my knees. This whole "I'm Chinese, I'm British, I'm Nigerian, I'm jewish" ideology is driving me insane. Please he'll listen to you.

I've been cautious for when the colonists will come for second slavery, I didn't know that in our own backyard, rowlandwhy has already mobilized the M.A.S.S ( Movement for Actualization of Second Slavery)

there is even someone saying that he will make laws banning traditional outfit for formal use. Then you will put about 2 million tailors out of work abi? Then there'll be mass import of suits from Europe. I hope you're beginning to see how Obasanjo thinks.

Why don't you just totally ban Nigerian names. Afterall, English names are now widely used even in China.

Then after that, ban traditional foods. Only Spaghetti Bolognese will be served during formal occassions.

I think it is even high time the government goes on a massive decolonization program.

Why rowland? In a country where temperatures can linger around 104 degrees Fahrenheit, they should wear suits? Rowland, You're not born again!

Just like you said, it's market forces.

In reality, the government is not supposed to go out working. The government is only meant to use their mental capacity to place policies and regulations that will make things happen.

@I-man

So also a jew that converts to Islam is a muslim jew. It's true! Hmmmmm. I said those people are mad. An Israel will immediately become a jew for international benefit. Does Disraeli's name not say it all? It means of Israel. The man's true identity is an Israeli Jew. But if he chose to be called a christian jew, well no wonder their are many books about his confused image of who he was.

Anyway, I just felt I should ask what about those muslim jew? Shey they are sane too? And then the Christian Muslims or Chrislems or Mustians. They don't need a shrink too. What of ChrIslemHerbs we have in Nigeria. Yes, they've featured them on CNN.

Google "jewishness of Disraeli"
then you'll see why I think anybody who claims to be a christian jew or muslim jew is mad.


I-man it may seem pathetic right now but when those surviving US soldiers on USS Liberty first claimed that it was Israel that bombed them, they were almost skinned alive. Then suddenly the truth came out and Israel could not deny. Well, I gree say I pathetic.

When the locals living around the Lakes Nyos and Monoun of Cameroun woke up to see 1,800 of them dead and they said it had something to do with the tests Israelis were carrying out in the lake, but no. They too were pathetic. Na when dem go dash una your own thermonuclear bomb una eye go neat.

@Mariory

you seem to be misunderstanding my post. I said that the reason I earlier didn't want to join in on this debate was that it was going to be filled with segmentalism, bias, extremist freedom of thought, religious segmentation and outrageous claims.

I never said I wouldn't join in when it came to that:

I didn't see you complainin when Hamas made a phonecall to Ehud to talk about Israel's destruction.

But now, Ehud calls George Bush Snr to apologise about the Lavon affair and bombing of the USS Liberty and suddenly you rear your ugly head.

This is what bias truly means. Tolerating one but not the other.

And the fact that the whole Lavon Affair and USS Liberty bombing sounded outrageous doesn't mean they aren't true.

By the way, where were you when someone was fabricating statements like "israelis are jews" "judaism has nothing to do with the word jew" or "Catholics claim they are Christians too"

Anyway, for your generally bias concern and intervention, I'd like to say go to hell!

Are you people forgetting the much publicized solar eclipse? NTA advertised it so much, I began to believe it was a government project.

Well, I think he'll be remembered for GSM and the boom of "yahoo yahoo" and the stock market, entrenchment of alcoholism by the establishment of a massive beer factory and a gargantuan cigarette factory (cancer for all by the year 2010). He pumped life into NTA, and pumped it back out again, gave away a chunk of the country to Cameroun, oversaw several planecrashes, beefed with his VP, Sought 3rd term, brought in huge Chinese investments, went on a spree of fuel price increases, launched 2 satellites, brought up Ribadu, paid National debt, amalgamated banks, dissolved polytechnics, increased workers' salaries, oversaw the first Civilian-Civilian handover, lost a first lady.

The guy get plenty legacies abeg. I haven't even counted half.

Hello, Mr President, it's Ehud. How is Washington today? I want to apologise for bombing your installments in Egypt in 1954 and also the Slaughter on USS Liberty in 1967. We regret all the casualties. We didn't know you'd find out it wasn't those bloody Arabs.

You know sometimes we a have to employ trickery in warning you against your true enemies. I just didn't like seeing you shake hands with President Nasser, you know I'm a very jealous friend.

However, we'd like to know how you unveiled our plot in order that we may take corrections in case of next time. We may plan another false flag attack in the future maybe on September 11th of 2001. Well, one never knows.

Thank you very much. Shallom and happy Yom Kippur.


PS: stay away from any low flying planes around the World Trade Centre or the Pentagon. I just have a hunch that's all.

By the way, do you have some of those injections that can put a serving prime in coma for years? I'm just asking. It may come in handy in a case whereby one of these bloody peaceloving niceguy prime ministers start implementing the peace plan.

By the way, how is little George Jnr? When do you think he'll be ready to take over power?

If you are not aware of the manipulation of religious differences between muslims and christians, then you should read about

OPERATION SUSANNAH: attack by mossad of US properties in Egypt in order to compromise the new found friendship between Egypt and the US in 1954.

The bombing of the "USS Liberty" along the Egyptian coast in 1967 with the same motive. 34 killed, 173 injured, ship sunk. A calculated attempt to murder Christians and blame it on muslims so as to continue their tactic of divide and conquer.

These were the instances where they were caught redhanded. Now imagine all the instances in which their schemes were not discovered. How many.

So coming back to your statement that the jews did not say you were pigs or dogs or that they were going to drive any of you christians into the sea to your death. No they didn't SAY it. They are people of Action. They DO it.

Russia did not break up. Th Union of Soviet Socialist Republic (USSR) broke up. Russia is just one of the Nations that make up the republic.

Also, today, Latvia does not compare to Russia on any scale.

This is why for a long time, I avoided this thread. Sentimentalism, bias, extremist freedom of thought, religious segmentation and outrageous claims.

I said they're mad, you say they're messianic jews.

You mean those people whose religion is based on a belief that Jesus COULD be the sun of God? The failsafe Judaism? Anyway, I am now keeping my mind open in case I meet someone who calls himself a Christian Muslim. In fact my search won't be far because while calling my brother to joke about the idea, he told me that there was already a religion known as ChrIslam! That means there are already Christian Muslims or ChrisMuses or ChrisLems.

Well, that must derive into the statement "many Christians are Muslims and many Muslims are Christian" in line with your "Many Christian are Jews and Many Jews are Christians" deductive reasoning resulting from the Christian Jews terminology.

And the Christian Jews and the ChrIslam faiths show that "many christians are jews and may jews are christian, and many christians are muslims and many muslims are christians", then I guess you're all just one big happy family.

Christian Jews! What a load of crap. So what other crazy religious sect do you want to introduce me to now? Pastor Berg and his "Whores for Christ" or the KKK?

Let us keep discussing in the realm of Sanity and not about flying people and people whose religion is based on MAYBE jesus is the son of God. People that in my earlier words, deserve to be in Yaba. If you continue that way, I may have to start quoting Clifford Orji too to substantiate my debate.

Again I will correct you and say that Emperor Hadrian translated the Latin name "provincia syria palaestina" from the Greek translation of "Phillistine Syria".

I repeat, Emperor Hadrian translated name of Phillistine Syria which has existed since 500 years BC to Provincia Syria Palaestina about 635 years later.

I do not claim that the name Palestine is Arabic; It was Greek. I also do not claim that Indigenes of Palestine of the early times were arabs. The Arab muslims came in about AD 700. The European jews flocked in from 1300 on and finally landed in 1948.

Na wah for this Nairaland O! So request for information can warrant someone being called foolish?

@davidylan

from 500 BC that land was known as "The Phillistine Syria" in Greek. The Latin Translation is "Provincia Syria Palaestina". In English, Palestine.

So I beg to say Palestine has existed since 2500 years ago. Unless of course you'd rather dwell on royal pronunciation or English translation which didn't happen till the crusades that took place about the year 1000 AD.

So what's translation got to do with it?

Now you go about allotting religions. Who told you am a muslim? So because you're on one side of the fence and I am sitting on the fence, that means you must push me onto the other side? I don't worship foreign gods. I don't worship imposed gods, whether by colonialism or jihad.

I no even know how to take put mouth for this matter sef. So now all in a bid to implicate Ehindero, Obaniyi has now become his aide?

@davidylan

I stated in my earlier post that anybody that claimed that he was a christian and a jew should be cast into the Yaba left psychiatric ward.

Now you have told me that person indeed is Benny Hinn.

A man who claimed that 9 different individuals make up the trinity?

A man that claimed that Jehovah originally created man to swim like fish or fly like birds.

That same man who comes around to say he's a Christian Jew when his father is actually Greek and his mother is an Armenian?

I believe this man fits the profile of someone missing from the afore mentioned Yaba left psychiatric ward. I don't blame you. It is because you do not know who Taofeek really is? Oh you didn't know his real name is Taofeek?


Jewish is an adjective that describes a person that practices Judaism.

Jesus! You think I now agree that that there are Christian Jews. I thought you'd learnt your lesson and didn't see any use causing you any more embarrassment on that.
Ha! Christian Jew ke? Out on the loose? Next thing somebody will come out and say he's a Muslim Christian! Yes I remember one fella like that in UNIBEN during my final year days. Leslie; he claimed that "Muslims are the real Christians". I thought he was on this craze alone until I started seeing people that claimed there were Christian Jews. So right now, am keeping my mind open just in case I come across a Muslim Christian.

My friend go and read. Do you think that bread is better than knowledge? You want to eat when you adamantly refuse to read. Go and read jare so that you can stop sowing falsehood on the internet. The internet that used to be a trusted source of information, people like you have now, corrupted that integrity. "Christian Jews". How did that sound to you when it echoed in your brain the very moment you conjured that term up?

By the way you've not answered my question. When you say:

"it is a religion that refers to us as apes and pigs"

Do you mean you are a jew? And that you were born in Israel?
You see this "we" thing is why I decided educate people about the clear differences between the christian and jewish religions. So that muslims will not wish jews death just because they believe jews are same christians that they have beef with, and jews should not wish muslims death because they believe the jews are part of their "we".

So Mr Christian Jew, were you born in Israel that you have now begun to "we" yourself with jews?

I now believe there is a lot you don't know about even yourself. All I can do however, is to continue to read. Bring out your birth certificate and read. Get a copy of your parents' marriage certificate and read. Just keep reading. I repeat "no knowledge is lost".


Why do you keep shifting the question I'm avoiding? First it was whether christians aren't really jews, now it's about whether palestine is an arabic word. Palestine is definitely not an arabic word. And I don't remember anybody previously asking me that question that you claim I was dodging.

@I-man

you know this individual davidylan well. I am not happy the way you watch him drowning in this ocean of ignorance without offering him at least a straw. The man is just an inch from going round the bend and you won't correct him.

Please help me. If not just for his sake, then at least help me help him. The other message he sent made me scream so loud that my neighbours started complaining.

Thank you very much for your anticipated cooperation.

Yours faithfully,
NEX.