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Donjazet2:
Look at dayo who consistently and staunchly campaigned for buhari across the board here, rather than hide his face in shame after seeing the disaster than buhari turned out to be,

Donjazet2, this is your post just 3 months ago in response to a vituperative post directed at Raum for his support of Buhari. You joined in to attack him for campaigning for Buhari while sly-foxingky hiding the fact that you both were comrades-in-politicking who campaigned for Buhari twice in 2015 and 2019.

And unlike Raum, you directly experienced the misrule by Buhari first hand yet campaigned for and queued to vote for him but shifted all the blame on Raum who didn't thumbprint on that ballot paper which set back Nigeria by 50 years.

Donjazet2, what defence do you have not to have a gazillion times all the angst and vile words targeted at you for blaming everything wrong with Buhari on Raum and the other APC guys here.

Heck! You are more like Buhari than any of them - like Buhari, you refused to take responsibility for enabling bad governance for 7+ years.

Donjazet2, is it safe to assume the main reason you suddenly think political parties shouldn't matter in elections even though Obi was PDP from 2014 to 2022 was because you want Igbo presidency regardless of which Igbo man had the best shot?

You have continually labeled your fellow pro-Buhari comrades of 8 years as tribalists because they are voting along the same party lines as you did in 2015 and 2019?

If you didn't see anything good in Obi even as VP in 2019, what convinced you in 2022? Hasn't Obi always been saying the same things he's campaigning with now even since 2016 in public events?

Why is Laride who, like you, voted along party lines suddenly a tribalist for doing what you both did in 2015 and 2019, but you are the patriot because parties shouldn't matter now?

Let's leave the characters of the presidential candidates asides. Osinbajo declared too as he's seemingly as gentlemanly as Obi, so why didn't you support your APC man during the primaries but wanted a PDP man Obi, a party you swore must never be allowed back to power?

Amoto94:
Disstroy you have seen a dim light at the end of the long dark tunnel, I pray you see a bright light soon. It is never too late

Actually, I've been seeing too much of bright lights coding all week on large shinning screens so I prefer dim lights and dark modes now.

donjazet:
GLADLY! the direction of this election dey sweet my belle it shows that many nigerians are not entirely ignorant.

i dont realy see this result as ATIKU VS BUHARI, Its PDP VS APC and a lot of people are simply not ready to vote PDP back into the fold.
I wish the general well.

Donjazet2, if elections have always been about party instead of individuals to you, how come you didn't support Tinubu or Osinbajo in the run up to the APC primaries but was supporting Peter Obi in the run up to the PDP primaries just less than a year ago?

You wanted APC again even though Atiku was obviously the lesser evil from any standpoints as at 2019.

You wanted Obi even before there was any hint of him defecting to the LP and you likely still wouldn't have supported Tinubu even if Obi had become the PDP candidate.

Why and when did it suddenly become about individuals in early 2022? A projection of what you've always accused others of on this thread? Did it suddenly become about individuals because it represented an Igbo man's best shot at becoming President?

Donjazet2, if truly you campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2019 after his 4-year disaster class, for all of the heat and vituperative words I have directed at Raum and Laride, you deserve just as much as I heaped all the blame on them.

Even Oasis was very critical of Buhari's policies in 2018 (his post history proves this even though he's always been pro-APC) and it's why I almost completely never direct my anti-Buhari angst at him.

For all of the angst I have directed at Laride and Raum, you deserved worse. The worst of every slur the English language can be malleated into.

The very worst because you made these two guys seem like demons while comfortably hiding the fact that you enabled Buhari's ineptitude and rewarded it in 4 years.

Worse for championing yourself as having higher morals and being logically pro-masses all of sudden while tactically absolving yourself of any blame that is the Buhari failed presidential tenure.

For all it is worth, both Raum and Laride are better than you because they've been honest enough to admit their support for Buhari and take the heat in stride.

Now it makes me begin to question if your sudden love for an alternative presidential option in Obi isn't because your hatred of Tinubu is stronger.

Anybody who's cruel enough to campaign for and vote Buhari twice might as well vote Tinubu who has said he'd continue Buhari's legacies.

nihilistjnr:
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Bros take time. You said you must abuse everybody that voted for APC in 2019. All I did was show you somebody who did. I did not vote for APC in 2019. I have never voted for APC. If you come for me, I will serve it back to you in the same vein.

Wait a minute... Donjazet voted Buhari in 2019 after doing so in 2015? How did I miss this? Are you sure?

budaatum:
Just the first few minutes is enough to make any sensible person disbelieve it, as there's no way some YouTube blogger would have access to this find and then find the time to make a video about it, which I did watch.

Show us a credible source with better showing of the pvcs.

Of course. It had to be Budaatum the tribalist who has stated over the years that Igbos can never be President and I have exposed him over and over again.

Prejudiced dôlt.

Amoto94:
Were you born on Ofor Market day?

Ibrahim the terrorist village clown who lives in th backwaters of Okene, the most backward place in the country. Still running around?

You should take up the challenge and see the difference between a bluff and a foretelling of what's to happen.

Foolish extremist indoctrinating juvenile impressionable boys on Facebook into terrorism.

seankafor:
By the way, all of us supporting obi? What makes us think he wouldn't be much worse than his predecessors?

So of obi turns out bad tomorrow.. somebody will be using it to equate our daily life struggles?

Any person that is looking for any politician to save him is wasting his time because all of them are literally the same..

Because antecedence matters! That's why even as at 2018, I wanted him to run as President. I have posts on this forum which corroborate this.

Say all you'd say about him but Obi didn't waste resources or steal. He was frugal in managing the scarce resources available to Anambra.

Manage scarce resources available to Nigeria well and lead the charge to cut down on corruption, and most people don't give a tuppence about politics.
Failed economic policies is why most people want change of leadership.

I am judging Obi based on antecedence. An old dog can't learn new tricks. Buhari is the same as he was in 1983 - 1985, Obi is the same as he was in 2006 - 2014.

Antecedence. All smart businessmen make decisions based on indices and Obi's indices are solid.

And you, Ibrahim in Okene aka Shekau-lite, you are sure you want to play that game with me?

I'd be the first to post my full details then go all out on you, ensuring everyone you've ever dealt with in business knows know you are a religious extremist who supported killing an innocent girl over a miscontrued WhatsApp message. All you have to do is say "let's begin".

I have your folder ready. You are two words away from realizing the damage I can cause without resorting to physical harm.

obainojazz:
Let’s hate the politicians and not ourselves bro

The politicians are enabled to be evil by those of us who prop up their anti-people acts.

I repeat, even with his trials like most Nigerians, Lieride continues to prop up the evil system which downtrods on the citizenry. If we had a system where court rulings are obeyed, he'd get justice as he deserves.

Damn it! Even the Inibehe Effiong, AAC's national legal adviser whom I suggested to him would turn him down if he ever finds our Lieride supported flouting of court rulings. Inibehe has said this much publicly.

I withdraw any empathy for such people. I have state it here and a thousand times on Facebook. My full names should be attached to it for posterity.

Evil enablers would all learn. I have no empathy for such people as I do not enable them.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Akpan is Disstroy
Pemimode is Larride
Who be Odumah and Okafor?

But Disstroy, you for no drag Larride personal ordeal into this. He is not the reason Buhari failed. He only supported him, which everyone has a right to.

His travails should not be used to troll him[/color]

I am Akpan, proudly. I'd be the first to tell you I am unrepentantly Ibibio.

Since we are mentioning names, Amoto94 is Ibrahim and lives in Okene. Ibrahim should be careful about pushing it.
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I have no reservation about pointing out the evil of enablers of bad rulers. If he doesn't see the cognitive dissonance that he's a victim of the tyranny he props up, I'd point it out.

My lady couldn't go to work yesterday because she had to go sort naira notes for us at the bank. Even Bureau de Change have run out of notes. She came back yesterday tired and peeved. Still had to wake up this morning, make food for us and to the bank she's gone.
Saturday but she's running around instead of relaxing.

I'm a service provider. I have clients owing me. Transfers are failing. Some don't have the immediate money to pay me. I can barely redeem the transfered monies paid as cash. I am as much of a victim of the system as he is in more ways than one.

All due to Buhari and the ineptitude Larride still promotes.

And why are you people concerned Raum would rather the North continues to rule Nigeria perpetually if his frail and cognitively imbalanced Tinubu doesn't win?

He has family members and acquaintances in Nigeria! He's only cutting his nose to spite his face.

With the heightened fuel and naira note parallel markets, and the resultant crises due to the downtrodden citizens complaining, everytime they call him, his heart races.

Asking for some dollar notes would become the least of his problems now as he can always promise then fulfill later; he'd have to deal with all the complaints.

- How supermarkets are refusing transfers and accessing basic things have been hard.
- How Tunji and Demola escaped a mob by whiskers as they were queuing for naira notes at the banks.
- How the inflation rate has skyrocketed by 23.5% and it's affecting.
- How Sikirat had to be rescued from suspected Fulani Herdsmen as she was coming back from Ore just yesterday.
- How Baba Ibeji's grandson's health has deteriorated because the hospital he was rushed to refused transfers and wanted cash.

You don't ask people like him not to wish evil leaders on the country. Let him go ahead. Directly or indirectly, we'd all feel the pangs of foisting and encouraging bad amd ineffective leaders.

We will all learn!

obainojazz:
They all fed Buhari to become the monster he is now and suddenly they are bothered…

Now that I think of it, I withdraw whatever empathy I felt at the time he complained about being owed for months yet his employers were rubbing it in his face and opening new branches, except maybe for the innocent lady.
Buhari and other APC politicians did same and worse to innocent Nigeria yet the stockholm-syndromed Lieride defended them.

Let him feed on that fictional #500,000 he kept boasting about since from June till December now that his darling Buhari and APC Governors have made the country a Banana Republic completely.

Cursed be NCW00000420 if he stops his support of Buhari at this point.

In the spirit of being blunt and hitting it straight on.

Remember how immediately after the primaries in the first few pages of this thread up in June right down to November and November a certain Lieride was chest-thumping, daring anyone to come bet #500,000 which he has cooling that all structures are on ground for Tinubu to win?

Weeks later, Nigeria happened to him. We all know what I am referring to. The very system of ineptitude he's been defending for 7+years couldn't guarantee him the justice he so rightly deserves as every service deserves pay. If Nigeria worked like it should under a leader who truly has Nigeria at heart, wouldn't he get justice?

He should spend the #500,000 now. Oh! We can't access our monies? You will all learn!

larride:
You are the only one rambling here, not me.

When you are done, you can continue your digging work.

You bet I will, NCW00000420.
The heinous defense of you Buharist-cum-Tinubuists-cum-Situational-Wailers over the years have to be exposed.

In the meantime, shut-up and join the queue for naira notes and fuel. No dissent will be tolerated.

larride:
You are a clown. Till today I havent called Buhari a tyrant because he is not. Non chalfant, selfish or whatever you want to call him, you cannot call Buhari a tyrant because he is not one.

You can keep digging though, maybe you might hit jackpot.

Ozour

larride:
It is not my fault that you are unable to simple comprehension.

If after reading that post, that's the analysis your brain can come up with, you need to go ask for refund in whatever school you went to.

And yes, we need a special corruption court to fasttrack cases of corruption instead of taking 9 to 10 years only for the accused to walk away.

Spare me your ramblings, you doublespeaking stockholm-syndromed asswipe.

The period of debates or proferred explanations are over.

Cursed be you if you stop your defense of Buhari as you queue for naira notes and trade in the parallel naira exchange market. Nobody needs your explanation.

This is time to shove all of your tyranny enablements to your faces as you wail all over the thread page after page by the inept Buhari you cheered on for 7+ years.

Knuckleheaded vermin.

Even as recently as 2020 with all of Buhari's misrule and gaffes, they were still insisting Buhari is a democrat and fought anyone who called Buhari a tyrant.

larride:
Abacha was a Tyrant. Yes. He wasn’t behold to any court or law or constitution. His word is law. Can the same be said for Buhari as President? It’s even funny that you are comparing a military Junta to a democracy.

They denied Buhari wasn't flouting court orders even after 5 years of him doing so repeatedly?

There's more. All you have to do is local-search "Buhari court" and filter your search to the Eurosoccer section. Pages upon pages of defence in support of Buhari flouting court rulings.
Expand your search to the whole of Nairaland and you have a defence strong enough to replace 5 billion Koulibalys.

But all of a sudden Buhari has to respect court orders? Why do you want a bulldog you encouraged to hunt your neighbours' live chickens to suddenly be contented with only the food you feed it? Because it's started eating your live chickens too? Let it hunt. You trained it to be so.

"Labourers work in quarry ".

I agree! There's dignity in labour. I labour for my food like all law-abiding citizens.

Thieves steal and stash public funds and threaten fire and brimstone when the power of their loot is being diluted.

My goal now on here is to expose your hypocrisy. You will all learn!

larride:
I don’t know what’s wrong with Buhari that he hasn’t sent back the Special Corruption Court Bill back to NASS. The bill was rejected by the Saraki led senate. hopefully with the Lawan led senate, the bill will be passed and we can have fast trail of corruption cases.

And you got your wish. Buhari, knowing that the NASS keeps opposing his anti-orruption bills, took charge to starve the corrupt politicians of stacked looted funds.

You got your wish so you should be happy so what's all the wailing about? Oh! The caveat is, you didn't see it hitting Tinubu or yourself as a regular Nigerian in delicate places, right? Oh!

Well, Sai Baba regardless. Party is supreme and Buhari remains the party head. On Buhari's mandate we stand.

APCeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Oh! There's more. There's freaking more!

They want Buhari to obey court orders now? Let's take a trip down memory lane.
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Regardless of what you thought about Nnamdi Kanu in 2015 (he'd focused only on radio then and there were no clashes or cases of violence by his group yet; and my stance on his movement is known), a court granted Nnamdi Kanu bail when he was arrested but Buhari flouted the court order.
Buhari flouted repeated court orders affirming Kanu's release.

Guess who was one of those praising Buhari for disregarding court rulings?

Our very own New Convert Wailer, NCW000000419.

raumdeuter:
Have you seen where a Zoo obeys court order before?

Kanu say na zoo and dem dey gove am zoo treatment. Case closed

Damn! Burna Boy's "Last Last" is such a great song.

And there are too many of you Tinubuists wailing at the same time. Can you people be orderly with it so we the Indigenous Wailers can keep track? You can't just migrate to Wailersvile without documentation.

The designation tag is New Convert Wailer (NCW).

NCW0000000001: Tinubu.
NCW0000000002: El Rufai.
NCW0000000003: Ganduje.

Please take you NWC designated numbers in that order so our officers can document you.
No illegal immigrants or scaling walls. Form a queue.

Do this and enjoy your stay in Wailersville.

You will all learn!

This was Raumdeuter cheering on Buhari's disdain for the judiciary and defending Onnoghen's forceful removal. Today he wants Buhari to respect the same judiciary.

raumdeuter:
How your abobaku work go come be now?

Saraki lost, Onnoghen lost , Ambode lost, Adeleke lost, Atiku lost

raumdeuter:
The same way you lived long enough to Onnoghen out of their offices despite all your boasts.

raumdeuter:
he has been thrown into irrelevance with Onnoghen

Yes, today he's suddenly concerned about the same debased judiciary.

It would trickle down. Evil never rests until it decimates everything. No to situational activists.

I did quick on-Nairaland searches minutes ago.

I took some of your monikers individually and added keywords like:
- "EndSARS";
- "Onnoghen" (that's the forced out CJN);
- "CJN";
- "El-Zakzaky".
So many more. What I saw was appalling shocking. Still is. Too many to quote.

You Tinubuists defended Buhari when he flouted court orders; you justified it. You mocked EndSARS protesters. You defended CJN Onnoghen being forcefully removed illegally. You defended SC Justice Mary Odili's home being invaded. Your Nairaland posts bear testimony to these inhumane defence.

All of a sudden Buhari flouting court ruling on naira redesign is a travesty because Tinubu feels it affects his chances?

Night-time pseudo-activists! You can't fool everyone. Your wailing is inconsequential now. You gave credence to evil so don't back away now.

I took time to go through the Presidential Advisory Council setup implement the Nigerian Startup Act again last night.

I noticed it's made-up partly of the very clique you most know-tow to in the tech industry to get access to Silicon Valley's VC structure, and employees of communications giants and governments who most likely don't have tech businesses of their own or have founded any business for that matter.

How can the branch manager of a bank understand the trials and troubles of founders in the tech startup space? It seems flawed.

Little wonder since October 2022 when the Act was unveiled, nothing has been done about it. I doesn't affect them.

Buhari was misruling from day one. It was obvious he never accepted responsibility for failed policies or the fallout of his pronouncements. He harassed judges, jailed dissents, closed borders, pillaged homes of vocal opposing voices... In all of these, you justified his actions.

You called us sore losers who couldn't accept Tinubu masterminded the removal of Jonathan and installed Buhari. You accorded Tinubu the tag of APC National Leader even above Buhari. The economy tanked, youths got shot in protests... You defended it.

We criticized and complained for 8 years. We stood against Buhari even with your towering media influence.

A few months to go, you run to camp at the 18-yard box, waiting to latch on opportunistically to our goal-bound shots of opposing misrule to score and take all the glory while you rewrite history in coming years that you stood against Buhati in his years of misrule. Even on this thread in November, you said Buhari hasn't been that bad and your allies defended him. Now you want to separate Tinubu from Buhari? Never!


Take your fvcking legs away from our goal-bound shots! We did the work ourselves so should enjoy the praise of standing against tyranny for 8 arduous years.

Shameless political tap-in merchants!

The same people who called us Wailing Wailers all over Nairaland and social media for rejecting Buhari in 2015 and 2019 are wailing more than us.

I've been passive aggressively 'liking' old Nigerian political trolling and arguments by others in exchanges with me pre, ante and post 2015. Thankfully, Facebook has more advanced search features now. Many are deleting their comments when I 'like'.

You called us young and naive when we showed you Buhari's documented antecedence of misrule in the 80's. You said we weren't born then so ignorant. You told us he's changed and you know better us. History doesn't matter.

Now who's naive? You've ended up wailing criticizing Buhari this month alone than some of us have in the last one year.

You've continued that circle by campaigning for an even more corrupt and frail Tinubu to be President. I'm done telling anyone not to vote for Tinubu except keep campaigning for Obi who's the best of them.

Time and fate remain undefeated. Your families are unsafe. They could be killed at any point and there's nothing you can do to protect them. Your cousins are sleeping at fueling stations. Your mothers are queuing at the banks for new notes and buying naira. Just like in the 1980's. Let's see how you can shield them from all these now?

Your loved ones would be touched.
You will all learn!

monerozi5590:
I have already explained myself. Buhari doesn't have all the qualities of a good leader.

Same you just 9 days ago:

monerozi5590:
Buhari is a leader and a good leader listens. A leader is not always the most brilliant.

Drink responsibly.

cyberkitty:
What are you really asking for you...what do you want to know? I can't wrapp my head around the meaning of your last statement

That was an earlier discussion with Tensazangetsu20 about structured VC options outside of the cliquey Lagos Angel Networks and the powers that be in the tech startup space. He said he isn't of any option.

cyberkitty:
Am curious to know...is the company you're building a software?

Is the company registered only in Nigeria?
If it is not registered in the US as. Deleware C- corps...you might take you longer time to succeed!
The two guys and the team you sent the NDA to, was it a proposal to join the founding team or to employ them?

My tech agency is registered. Has been for a few years. Basically, we offer digital and creative solutions through it (adding new services now so rebuilding the website to reflect the added services and a whole new Ui - I do a new UI every 18 months or so).

I'm using it as a launching platform to building the other startups.

No, I haven't registered the other startups yet which would focus on building the softwares. The NDA was essentially to discuss the idea with the technical guys without mentioning the specific name of course in view of adopting them into the founding team in exchange for equity.

I'd register them (the other tech startups), of course, bit I have to finalise the part about sole proprietorship or co-founding before registering.

It's the model Flutterwave used in its early days so they could keep afloat with the best brains.

The guys I reached out to dragged their feet on signing the NDAs so I refused to discuss specifics with them. It was a red flag.

Bloomsbury:
You're right her but like they always say, information is power.

There is how a USA doing this for foreigners. The name is DOOLA. Also Stripe Atlas has been doing it for years.

They help in registering your business for $195 but stripe Atlas is $500.

They give you a free company representative who can handle all your needs, documents and File Tax as well as help in opening a USA bank account and many more things.

Thank you! I'd check them out. Google brings up a lot of sponsored ads when this is searched and real proof of tech founders who admit to using the services is rare.

Bloomsbury:
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For instance, in reference to Notorized documents, many lawyers both in Nigeria don't know how to write NDA documents or business proposal documents for Entrepreneurs and founders...so I took my time and pain to learn it.

Although am not a lawyer, I write awesome business proposals, Pitch deck, NDA agreements for Businesses and companies of any size...after I write for you, you can then take it to any lawyer or law firm to sign it for you.

That's one of my side hustle I used to gather money to pay for some computing services for my startup.

My guy! I decided to officially add these to the services my digital tech agency offer at the beginning of the year., scaling into full brand identity creation and management. Still redeveloping the website. Should be done before the elections.

I had to teach 4 lawyers how to draw up some documents in the last 3 years. I have been doing pitch decks too and even went offline to do a sponsorship package (pitch deck and all for a client). I do all business writings and intensive documentation myself.

I guess it's why I don't describe myself as a web developer - I ideate and grow brand with digital tech. Web development, graphic and UI, and marketung are just some of such ways of achieving that.
I call myself a digitech builder. I guess it best describes you too.

Bloomsbury:
To make your life easier for enforcing technicalities from different countries co-founders, incorporate the startup in the US.

Then do what we can vesting.

Anyone who leaves the company before 4yrs from the date you join goes home with nothing

I looked at this too but you mostly have to get someone in the US or a firm there to do this for you. Tax returns and all of that. Sure you want to get bothered with all of that hurdle while still in ideation or pre-seed stage?

Brings us back to funding and trust. The bootstrapping till seed stage might just be it.