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When Shekau-lite who represents everything uncivilised agrees with you, you should be worried. Really worried.

nihilistjnr:
Ngl you speak my language as a tech boy.

You're the only obidient here so far that speaks numbers and makes fact based arguments for your guy.

I've no doubt of your conviction in Obi, and if thos was how your crew were making arguments for the man, it would be a more convincing proposition.

Closest person to you here with a similarly cerebral approach to shilling Obidience is BlueRayDick

Obi and Tinubu aside, get your contacts to invest in tech founders' ideas and their startups in Nigeria. Or help facilitate their access to startup incubation and funding programmes. Just one call to your contacts in Lagos would give you a spreadsheet of some of these guys doing amazing things with tech.

Y-Combinator can't serve everyone. And LAN isn't enough.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]When your state voted Buhari twice in 2015 and 2019, what did you get in return?

Chai [/color]

Imagine praising Yahaya Bello to troll Obi. Even Tinubu wouldn't want to be associated with the misgovernance of Yahaya in Kogi. BAT has shied away from associating with him in many ways.

The height of Stockholm Syndrome praising Yahaya Bello.

reccy:
15% or 5%

I'm not sure he will see 5% for kogi sef......

White lion dy wait for am.

Lokoja is arguably the worst capital in Nigeria. Poverty in Kogi is at an all-time high.
After the recent flooding, there's been barely any funding to help the Kogi victims.
Your IGR is poorer than an LGA in Rivers State.
Yahaya Bello has turned Kogi into a police state.
Opposition is nonexistent as they all fear for their lives and he brandishes guns to threaten them.
He's owing them salaries, gratuities and more.
Kogi is at the bottom of every developmental chart of Nigerian states.
Workers owed for years have no hope of being paid.

Peter Obi getting 5 or 15% votes in Kogi should be the least of your worries. But Nigerians don't know their priorities.

chrisooblog:
No but I read a lot about it.

Work at a place that is a big partner of the tech sector.

Yes PYO really pushed hard for facebook and microsoft to invest in Nigeria. I remember his trips to carlifornia that year.

Have you thought of volunteering to help Obi formulate a roadmap for the tech sector because I think whichever candidate wins we need to make sure that angle is covered.

I know Iyin contributed his thoughts to helping BAT formulate his.

Mark Essien of Hotels.ng and Charles Awuzie are on top of it. I'm more aligned with Mark.

But for other levels of government, I've been directly involved. It's one of the reasons I was tasked to write a manifesto/policy document which focused on tech as an economic diversification tool and alternative security sources for at least one of the top governorship candidates from my state.

PYO was/is the only aspirant who had a foolproof tech-driven economy document before the primaries. Our lives (including yours) would have been changed forever. He has a direct relationship with Silicon Valley too. Obi is playing catch-up in this regard.

OasisX:


.... and so?!

And so that Tinubu being a hypocrite doesn't matter?
Sometimes your shamelessness is enviable. Like a baby crawling all over with food upturned all over its body while pausing to bop its head to a sound with no rhythm. Completely unaware of its own silliness.

Larride was right - you don't need brains to be a Tinubu supporter. I agree with you, Larride.

OasisX:
BAT also makes it loud and clear that; he's gonna end subsidy.

The same Tinubu who called Jonathan a traitor for wanting to remove subsidy?
The joke writes itself.

chrisooblog:
Yeah the tech bros really liked PYO. I also just zoned out once he lost the primaries. Anytime I see him in international engagements like his last outing with Kamala Harris I just SMH at the missed opportunity his presidency would have provided.

Many Nigerians do not know PYO is the reason the presidency assented to the Startup Bill quickly. He held a thousand meetings with techies without much media coverage for a few years and kept pushing for it.
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You're in the tech space too?

DeadPresidents:
Maybe only Flutterwave, but for every Flutterwave, you have a Gokada kicked out of the market by infantile government policies.

They did nothing for Flutterwave. Those guys and PayStack scrapped the floor for everything. Only private connected individuals came through for them. But the Lagos Angels Investment Network (LAN) is still the closest to anything serious we have. They are individuals still.
LASG did nothing for them.

DeadPresidents:
The tech sector would have eaten good if Osibanjo became president.

My God! I was already salivating looking forward to an Osinbajo presidency. May Otem cage APC for denying us that man.

chrisooblog:
Yes you're right this has forced government to take notice. The recently signed start up bill and investment in improved internet connectivity by google and starlinks will only make the sector grow even further.

I was excited about the Startup Law but now I'm... I don't know. All talk.

I disagree a bit about lack of government support for flutterwave I remember their former CEO Aboyeji mentioning somewhere how Lagos state partnered with them on something like that but can't speak for FG sha.

The closest platform for tech founders which seems serious is the Lagos Angel Investment Network. Even that is more of a consortium of private individuals and, erm, cliquey if you are in the tech space.

What stops government from saying, Microsoft come into Nigeria, set up your hubs in Lagos, Abuja and Port Harcourt. We'd give you a 4-year tax break but outsource xyz to Nigerian techies then ABC would...?
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Wike dashed out #300 million to Sanwo Olu's campaign 2 months ago to troll Atiku. 3 fintechs in Port Harcourt needed that amount to become giants in early 2021. More are seeking funding.
Almost the amount Canva needed in 2013 to become a $21 billion company today.

It all boils down to cutting wastage. That's one of the key reasons Obi appeals to me. That's why a cerebral and vibrant leader like Osinbajo as president appealed to me during the primaries.

izzou:
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That [Obi] looks different, but he is not saying anything different. There is no difference between what he is saying and what the others are saying....All talk, no plan.
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Actually, Obi is the only one of the front 3 who has done what he's saying in an elected position.

- He's not stolen government funds. One of the few governors with no allegations of stealing or EFCC case.
- He's the only one who ran a lean governance style in office. Tinubu was wasteful. Atiku too.

Cut the cost of governance and you'd have half our problems solved.

For example, the Akwa Ibom State Government budgeted #4 billion for education in 2018 but #10.1 billion for "overhead costs" in that year alone which is running government. Private jet, entourages, funding SAs and PAs, sitting allowance...

If it was cut down to #2.1 billion, imagine what #8 billion would do for the state when pulled into the education sector?

That's why a proven Peter Obi is a necessity!

chrisooblog:
Power can be solved with the right policy direction. Before 2000 how many Nigerians had telephone lines but through the introduction of mobile telephones millions all over the country both of low and high status can now communicate without having to beg or bribe NITEL.

States should be able to generate and transmit electricity. A PPP is the way to go.

Some states are already equipped to be self-reliant in terms of electricity.

Disstr.oy today explained how the ICT sector is booming even with inadequate power that should tell you the possibilities that exist if we just continue to stubbornly demand and work for a better working society.

Will it be easy? no but evidence of progress in some areas still gives me hope no matter how small.

I do have to add that the record in the ICT sector is just down to the sheer never-die spirit of the average Nigerian. The policies don't help us ala crypto and remittances.
Power is still a major challenge as techies depend on alternative sources of power as backup, and completely in some places.

The government did nothing to help Flutterwave, PayStack, and the likes. Government did nothing to help techies connect with Silicon Valley too.
Banks don't have packages to fund ICT but have special packages for oil and gas.

How techies in Nigeria did it is a miracle. But we have that record and I'd flaunt it to everyone proudly.

larride:
What is not clear in my post? Do you need an interpreter to interpret to your local dialect so you can comprehend it?

That you were a shameless liar. And even Festus Keyamo admitted Tinubu forfeited money to the U.S. authorities and admitted the connection to drug-dealing.

larride:
Simon Ekpa is now working for APC

You cant be supporting Obi and not be dense. It's one of the criteria to be his supporter .

Alright.

larride:
Educated adult believe the US will enter into a plea bargain with a "supposed drug lord" in 1992 when there was serious crack down on drugs activities, collect 400k and release $1m to him while not convicting him of any crime.

What bias does to people ehn.

liveLongNprospa:
What am I applying..

Why did Obi not answer a question "school na scam"?

Lmaooo oga better find something better to do abeg.

Nor dey behave like the people we actually expect this level of trolling from..

Not just on "school na scam". He asked about how the bursaries would work and the Student Coordinator who organised the session was delegated to answer.

Bursaries have always been a touchy issue in student unionism. Always. And the links between the government and student body have always been the ones to address it. Anyone who was active in student unionism knows this.

larride:
Forget it, obedient are dense. This is not even a shade. They are dense in their majority.

Blu bla balu bulu.

iamoyindamola:
I support any decision they make but not knowing amount of quantities printed is very dangerous
I was hearing fake is also in circulation
That mean no management or check up

If the CBN Governor who sort of oversees the printing of money contested as an APC aspirant and is loyal to the party, who do you you think he'd favour to print unaccounted-for notes which would used to buy votes in the run-up to the biggest election season in 8 years? Your guess is as good as mine.

nihilistjnr:
I am categorically NOT a Tinubu fan btw, and I don't have a horse in this race, as I believe Nigeria is already doomed and beyond salvation.

I agree. We agree. Or not.

There's no shame in defending your position. You're no less human for being a BATist but you should defend your stand. We all have a horse in this race. Some of us are open about it while some unwittingly reveal who their bet is on as the days edge closer to D-Day.

ShaqFu:
I mean with the way the country is pummeling into a state of almost complete lack of morals, values, ethics and the likes.

Doing the right thing now in Nigeria will make you an easy target for you to be preyed on, and you'll be tagged 'fool'. Almost everything seem to be going south and nothing ever seems to work.

10 years ago, during the Arab Spring, Egypt was a Banana Republic. It's gotten almost everything right now and tops every developmental indices in Africa.

15 years ago, Rwanda was no more than wood embers with smoke of the genocide still seem for miles away. They are getting it right now.

We've gotten it right with the Electoral Law. Hopefully, we'd enforce the section on vote-buying. Soon we'd get it right with cross-carpeting. 15 years ago, these weren't feasible.

When exactly? I don't know. The Egyptians and Rwandans didn't know when exactly too but it didn't put them off from pushing for changes and reforms.

Who'd have thought Nigeria would be earning the most money from ICT given our power issues? But we did it this year. 18.7% of our GDP is from ICT - the highest in the world. That I am extremely proud of and brag to acquaintances from other parts of the world about. We'd get it right somehow.

ShaqFu:
Well atleast you know where my loyalties lie.

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No. Knowing you Joe, you love playing the Devil's advocate. And your main grouse against Obi isn't personal or his tribe - you just don't want to support anyone ever linked to the PDP in the past. Which is odd because all major players had PDP links and Tinubu sabotaged his own party for Jonathan/PDP in 2011 so they were allies at a point. Until he wanted to be GCFR.

On another note, do you really believe Nigeria can work and things can actually get better?.

If you don't believe Nigeria would get better, why are we having this conversation?
Electoral law, mused state policing, muled devolution of electricity generation and distribution to states...

This thread being the default political lounge of Nairaland proves we all have a faint hope it'd get better.

DissTroy:
You better believe there are no neutrals here. Everyone has an agenda. Playing neutral is also an agenda so they can emotionally blackmail the otherside firing from all cylinders to tone down while turning a blind eye to the side they tacitly support.

Again, Nairaland is the second most visited Nigerian website after Bet9ja and ranks the highest in Google search results. Twitter, Facebook and research platforms like Nairametrics and Researchgate regularly reference Nairaland threads and comments. Noticed there are only about 200 active users on this thread (main + alternate accounts) but almost 54 thousand views?

Counter the lies and half-truths with facts else they'd spread and seep into the fabric of our national discourse in no time.

Nihilistjnr, this was my comment on the 12th of August. I was also referring to you. That was in the heat of the debate about Nigeria cannot work and not caring about the outcome.

You are no neutral. Digz isn't too even though he tried to come off as one but was derobbed last month.

The next you come up with that "I don't care" argument, we'd remind you. You folks can fool everybody.

You are exactly like Segalink on Twitter who plays fencist but long-time active folks on Twitter Nigeria all know where his loyalties lie.

nihilistjnr:
In essence, don't apply the same standards Obidients apply to Tinubu to Obi.

Obidients said Tinubu should never have delegated questions in a Q & A. Some Obidients even went as far of making skits to diss the man.

Now that Obi is seen delegating multiple questions in a town hall meeting, it's no longer delegation - it's a six second gaffe.

So far, only Segedinho was able to apply the same standards to Obi. Everyone else is tap dancing around it

Maybe. Maybe not. But this isn't what my post was about.

You already derobbed yourself of your neutral cloak which you've tried to pass off as your default cloak.

No need to mask up again. Like Raum, you are a BATist. Revel in it instead of letting them take the shots alone when Tinubu gaffes (which is a thousand times daily).

No more of that "Nigeria cannot work, I don't care about the outcome" agenda from you.
You care. You have a dog in the fight and want a certain outcome.
There are no more middle grounds. Not on the 2023 elections issue.

If anything, the last 3 pages proved those who were always pretending to be neutrals or fencists were never so. They chose the position because there wasn't really any gaffe to troll Obi with and Tinubu was steady dropping bombs.

One supposed 6-second gaffe and all that pretend mantle of neutrality was removed and we saw the real cloaks they have underneath.

Believe there are neutrals here at your peril.

TrebleChamp:
Oasis you didn't give us update of Labour Party Akwa Ibom rally today, like you did Kogi State? Please be updating us, as some of us may not have TV to watch this rallies, thank you ...

Obi is wasting valuable time campaigning in Akwa Ibom and Cross River. Both areas are done deals and I stated this before the primaries. Complete lockdown votes.

iamoyindamola:
https://www.nairaland.com/7488746/umar-isa-16-year-old-boy-arrested

All these nonsense happen only in the north
Awon savages >

Agba Jalingo who's constantly arrested, jailed, released, kidnapped for months and released by the current Cross River Governor, Ben Ayade, says "hi". His 'crime' is always insult or libel.

Qatar2022:
You're saying all those things because abia state is one of the worst state in Nigeria

Umuahia is a shithole. I felt disgusted all through when I visited for two days. In conversation about state capitals or functioning states, Abia State should never come up.

BlueRayDick:
I think Buhari is surrounded by like-minded persons. That's why u will see DSS invading the house of a judge, EFCC will be destroying the property of people to gain access to their premises without signed warrant , etc. And in the midst of all that and more the president just dey look on make any agency wey wan kill each others off themselves.

And very importantly,Tinubu has continually reiterated he would continue with Buhari's legacies as none of them are bad.
These people on this thread support him - let that sink in.

Imagine beating the Portuguese Instagram model on the only platform he reigns supreme?

Messi is a devious god. He's taken everything away from that guy.

In less than 48 hours too!

Joe / Shaqfu has always been on the wrong side of history politically.

He's liberal about other issues but politically gets it wrong.

I remember the first time our digital paths crossed was in 2014 here on Nairaland in the Politics Section and we had series of fiery exchanges, with me attacking him for whitewashing Buhari, calling all the accusations fallacies even though Buhari oversaw billions of dollars siphoned as PTDF Chairman, had health challenges so is an absentee leader and many more.

By 2016/ 2017, he had to admit Buhari had failed.

Same signs with Tinybu, except we know Buhari's childhood history, we know his non-nuclear family blood relatives and he's no drug baron unlike Tinubu.

ShaqFu:
Em if my memory serve me right, Orji Uzor Kalu was discharged and a fresh trial ordered.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/391956-breaking-supreme-court-nullifies-orji-kalus-conviction-orders-fresh-trial.html

Remember what they say about "innocent until proven guilty?".

Ah yes, Shettima is a known Boko Haramist, well so is many northerners, this statement is actually from people who haven't even visited the north for once in their life. LoL.

True. Like Gandollar, a core member of the council.

I agree, Deborah's killers are also innocent until proven guilty.

ShaqFu:
can you visibly name the band of thieves who support Tinubu? Kindly note, when you do name them, you should name the offense they committed and the sentence they were trialed and convicted for such offense.
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Joe and his classic dribbling around. Something like Saint-Maxinim - dribbling all over but avoids the goal posts.
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You want me to analyse 603 names of a campaign council? https://cdn.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/TINUBU-SHETTIMA-2023-PCC-1-2.pdf

Orji Uzor Kalu is a convicted thief. Tinubu's VP is a Boko Haramist. Too long.

Tinubu himself is a drug baron and embezzler. Judas was never convicted or tried. It didn't make him less of a thief.

ShaqFu:
Yet your Peter Obi readily associated with him and gave him a juicy position which he already wanted to start to milk. Then I ask again: "what business does an imperfect virgin have doing in a house full of whores?".

In any election cycle or during politicking, you sieve.
Doyin Okupe stepped down for Obi during the PDP primaries and wanted an Obi presidency. Even canvassed for him when he decamped. You don't kick such a person until there's content reason to.

Immediately he began asking for funds just after the Kwankwaso VP debacle, his influence in Obi's camp diminished. Please screenshot any high-profile meeting or appearance Okupe has featured with Obi in the last 2 or 3 months (which is after the funding saga).

Kenneth Okonkwo has been Obi's most visible spokesperson. Okupe lost rank months ago.

Facts only!

But the nerve of Tinubu supporters whose principal is surrounded by bands of thieves to point fingers is daring. You are the conglomerate if thieves and your principal has every corruption tag there is.
Even Jesus had a thief who was revealed and the scoundrel was cut-off

And, yes, he's my Peter Obi. He's always been since years ago.