₦airaland Forum

Awolowo who was in prison? Who was leading the western region by this time? Not Akintoka?

When you give someone something different from what's being asked, you expect the person to accept it? We want restructuring or separation, period!

Coldie:
Out of the abundance of the heart the north gave a hand shake of brother hood acrossthe east after their 2018 quit notice, that was a chance for a bond to be forged with the east which would have ultimately maybe given the east 2023.

Nnamdi Kanu with cheers from his followers declined and even insulted them more, making them look foolish, same people are still shouting we want presidency.

I am igbo but am tired am really tired if these nonsense

Something GEJ did free of charge for you guys

Let every state control their resources, period!

nograv:
Straw man, I never said New York had a special status.

I compared Lagos to New York as it is the economic heart of the United States. Lagos is similarly is the largest economic conurbation in Nigeria, heck even in West Africa..

By the time you realise it might be too late

Christistruth00:
Lagos is already Yorubaland and there is no Conquest left to do

More or less if you can conquer the people there now. Lagos is being conquered as we speak by Westerners, Easterners and Northerners. Only Oduduwa nation can stop this trend!

MrMaestro:
By that logic. Egypt doesn't belong to the current Egyptians, UK doesn't belong to the current English, Igboland doesn't belong to the current Igbos, Singapore doesn't belong to the current Singaporeans, etc. White people should go back to the caucus mountains, Igbos should go back to Jerusalem area (or wherever else), etc. Go back long enough no one belonged no where.

He should have stayed in his region. His political enemies took advantage of the insecurity in SE and knowing fully well fingers will be pointed at IPOB who had no reason whatsoever to kill him

RichDad1:
So because of these your points, he deserved to be killed ?

Hahaha but Afonja was said to have betrayed his people.

Tinubuadvocate:
You guys are just misusing the name .

Clear. So where the Aworis settled(can't be the whole of Lagos) is theirs. Other recent migrants including people from West, East and North are all migrants. Lagos is now a cosmopolitan city developed not by the Aworis but migrants

Christistruth00:
The Portuguese first came to Lagos in 1472 and met the Aworis there


This is an Interview the Portugese embassy in Abuja gave 2 years ago also confirming that the Portuguese met the Awori in Lagos in
1472

https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portuguese-founded-lagos-but-did-not-discover-nigeria-diplomat/48420

Mr dollar man, marriage is not by force. This is not what we agreed at independence so it's either we go back or go our separate ways!

But the Portuguese came to Lagos in the 17th century. Who were the people they met? Because you narration only showed Yorubas conquering Lagos recently and were not indigenous to Lagos. So a stronger conqueror can always claim Lagos then

Christistruth00:
Yorubas were once called Ife People

All Yorubas see the Ooni of Ife as the foremost Yoruba King

Don’t let me School you on Lagos or Awori History

The Oba of Lagos is an Ijesha Man by lineage

The Ijesha link to Lagos dates back to about 1200 AD when Oduduwa sent his Grandson who became the first king of the Ijesha People to Lagos to fetch Sea Water as Part of a Cure for his failing eyesight

That is why the king of Ilesha is titled “ Owa Obokun” which means “he who fetches Water from the Sea”.

The Awori are 100% Yorubas and from Ife Originally

Lagos is Aworiland

Lagos is 100% Yorubaland



On the day the British Colonial Government first landed in Lagos in 1851 Oyo controlled Badagry Area Which they had taken from the king of Dahomey along with Porto Novo (Ajase) in War . The Oyos had fought Dahomey as Allies of the Eguns
Aare Oona Kakanfo oyabi had led the Oyo Army

The Abeokuta Egba Army Controlled all of Lagos Mainland Which they had won in the Ota War of 1842 in Which the Oyos of Ibadan fought as Allies of Oba Kosoko and the Awori and received such a heavy defeat at the hands of the Egbas that the Ibadan Army had to be smuggled back home.

The whole Episode almost led to the downfall of Basorun Oluyole back at Ibadan

The Ijebu Controlled Everything East of Lekki

All Oba Kosoko Controlled was the Slave market and Port of Isale Eko on Lagos Island, Even Ikoyi belonged to the Onikoyi who was an Oyo man

Again if you hear that Yorubas spent 100 years fighting themselves till 1878,

Just know that the Egba, Ijebu and Oyo Which included Ibadan were fighting for Control of the Coast of Lagos

Control of the Coast of Lagos meant Titanic Wealth. but unfortunately much of that was from the Slave trade

The Lagos territory Controlled by the Egbas , Oyo and Oba Kosoko belonged to the Awori People who were the most Peaceful and accommodating of all Yoruba Clans


Eko is Yoruba short for Ereko which means field and for Confirmation Ereko Market where the Egbas and Ijebu traded is still on Lagos Island today

Also Eko Ende in Osun State was one of the Locations of the Jalumi War of 1878

The Awori have inhabited Lagos since the 13th Century when they migrated from Ile Ife led by Olofin Ogunfuminire who was a great grandson of Oduduwa and a nephew of Oranmiyan who headed to Benin around the same period

The Land on Which Isale Eko of the Oba of Lagos is located belongs to the Awori Yoruba Aromire family till today

Aromire was one of the Sons of Olofin Ogunfuminire

The Otun Ekiti People migrated from Lagos in the 15 th Century and share the same ancestry with the Awori of Lagos

The op match line

How can you despise the name of someone you call hero? Do you know what it means to call someone Ojukwu?

Yorubas are people from Oyo originally. Lagos have their own indigenes prehistoric times and they don't see themselves as Yorubas because they're not. Why do you think the western region was at each other's throats before the British came?

Christistruth00:
Lagos is 100 % Yorubaland make no mistake about that.


London is full of Immigrants but it is still part of England

Did you support the Ikorodu man Agbaje or you supported the foreigner from Osun State Tinubu? Lagos has been ruled by foreigners enabled by indigenes.

Lagos was on the own before signing a treaty with the British. What was in that treaty? You guys opposed Biafra even when Biafra going will enable you reclaim back your Lagos.

Lagos is being conquered by Yorubas, Hausas and Igbos but the original indigenes of Lagos are helpless, deceiving themselves that the Yorubas are not on same agenda as Igbos and Hausa to make Lagos a no man's land

omonnakoda:
Everything you say is interesting but is a bit like opening the Quran to read to a church audience.
Timing and congruence are just as important as content

If Singapore can stand on its own why can't Lagos? Why must it be part of Nigeria

A constitutional debate is the right place for that conversation

Which wider public? Yoruba public or Hausa-fulani?

Babanah:
The government has the right to acquire any private land in the interest of wider public.

Where did you get this statistics from? Beer � parlour?

NinjaMetahuman:
dangote business alone is bigger than all Igbo investments in south west twice


Go figure.

And dangote investment is not up to 5%percent of lagos GDP.

Are you saying America New York has a special status?

nograv:
For those who are old enough, Lagos was already meant to have a 'special status', as part of the agreement when the abokis insisted on moving the capital to Abuja.

So this isnt anything new, it is Nigeria's New York so it should have a special status and way more funding. The Lagos light rail should receive additional federal funding for example

Imagine being given 13% of your own resources. You get sense at all?

WorldRichest:
South-South states that are getting 13% oil money, what have they done with it? So called special status for Lagos will only enlarge Tinubu's coast just like 13% oil allawee is in Ibori's account

It's like tax ..based on a percentage...say 20%.

If you generate less then you suffer because there will be no money from Abuja anymore.

And just like you a lot of Nigerians oppose resource control because they don't understand that it will benefit them more.

Sammy07:



No,.I don't like it that.
Stupid FG can make a law that the higher you generate the more you pay.
You grab? State like Sokoto will be paying less.

Except if FG make it compulsory for all states to pay the same.amount of money (Say 1billion in a month) it will make all the states to buckle up and work harder.

What was he consulting? To protect Hausa-fulani interest? They ask every zone to do their review but he left his zone to concern himself with SE.

Besides, we don't need a reviewed constitution, we need the 1963 constitution with little tinkering to reflect states instead of regions

RichDad1:
One of the consultants was killed in Imo state by those that could have gained most from it.

The Oba you're quoting was desecrated by his own people when they ransacked his palace during the end SARS protest. He is using a replica till today even with threats to the people that stole his original staff.

But the painful part was that he was hoarding paliatives meant for his subjects. Do you see him speak again? He has been shamed.

Who's in the lagoon now? Rubbish!

Piggyyeaster1:
You want to swim in lagoon again?

There has to be a referendum to adopt a constitution. When our fathers agreed to form a country by bring the 3 regions, this was not the constitution that was agreed on. There's no way we would agree on a unitary system, quota system, no resource control, president elected with primary school leaving certificate! No!

bilms:
*What is wrong with 1999 constitution?*

"One of the biggest misconceptions is this idea that the 1999 constitution was written by the military. Not True! No single military man was in the constitution drafting committee of 1975/1997 and the CA in 1977. Infact, the 1999 constitution was a replica of the 1979 constitution.

The 1999 Constitution was drafted by a Constitution Debate Co-ordinating Committee headed by Justice Niki Tobi, with Dr. Suleiman Kurmo as deputy. They went round the country collecting memoranda through town hall meetings in Benin, Enugu, Jos, Phc, Kaduna, Kano, Ibadan, Lagos.

...Sokoto. They excluded military formations. After all the debates, the Chairman Tobi said, “In the light of the memoranda and the oral presentation on the 1995 Draft Constitution, it's clear that Nigerians basically opt for the 1979 Constitution with relevant amendments.

They want it, and they've copiously given their reasons for their choice in the different memoranda and oral presentations. So we've recommended the adoption of the 1979 Constitution with relevant amendments from the 1995 Draft Constitution.” Abdulsalami accepted the recommendation.

It's important to unpack this statement. Tobi was saying that based on oral & written submissions, Nigerians preferred the 1979 constitution but with a few amendments extracted from Abacha's jettisoned 1995 draft constitution. Let's look at how the 1979 constitution was drafted...

In 1975, Gen Murtala Muhammed set up the constitution drafting committee headed by eminent jurist FRA Williams. The report of the committee formed the basis for discussions at the 1977 Constituent Assembly chaired by Justice Udo Udoma and had people like MKO Abiola, Bola Ige,Abraham Adesanya, Bisi Onabanjo among the 232 members.

This 1977 CA gave us the 1979 constitution. This is the document the 1999 constitution was based ALMOST WORD FOR WORD. None of the characters involved in the drafting committee or CA in 1975-77 and 1998-99 were military.

According to Simon Kolawole, the 1999 constitution is "pure plagiarism of the 1979 constitution". Exactly as Niki Tobi told us. The only differences were; the 13% derivation, the number of states in the federation (19 States in 1979 & 36 in 1999) and changing of FEDECO to INEC.

Like Simon Kolawole said "The 1999 constitution was NOT written by the military. I also hasten to say that nobody can write a perfect constitution. Even if Prof. Ben Nwabueze, a well-respected constitutional expert, writes a new constitution today, loopholes will surface in a...

...matter of time. That is why laws are dynamic. As loopholes appear, you plug them". I agree with him. The 1999 constitution is not a perfect document. The point is not to throw it away (you can't) it's to fix it. But the fixing must start with the truth..." Yinka Ogunnubi

The lawmakers cannot remove a constitution where they derived their fraudulent powers. It's we the people that will throw the constitution and the lawmakers to the thrash can and do a sovereign national conference where a people's constitution and not military imposed constitution will be gotten

epondudu:
What are their lawmakers doing in the Senate and House of Representatives?.

People tends to hate the most successful people. No wonder the Jews are hated.

Your region is suffering even with your so-called good politics but you wanna continue doing same thing. When will you guys get it that Nigeria is not working and cannot work?

MoonWater:
Instead of taking responsibility for your actions,
You lots keep blaming your misfortune on other tribes.
You people are bad at politics and human relationships

Are you the only tribe in Nigeria

Are we using the independence constitution now,? Is this the constitution agreed by the so-called regions?

epondudu:
Oga counter his fact.....dont spill trash abeg.

You're really funny. You do not have more right in SW than someone from SE in SW. As a one Nigerianist, you should know better. You can't want Niger Delta oil without wanting Niger Delta people!

helinues:
Lagos are also at alert.. To those who have been following my comments, I made it clear that before the Asaba declaration, there have been some steps taken by SW governors...

The destruction of Shanties and the banning of Okada in Lagos express way are just one of those steps..

Next is to apply policies that would restrict people from flocking to SW states..

We go continue to dey handle issues in diplomatic ways

Even the people that were once Bubu's supporters who have turned against him due to his poor performance will suddenly starts supporting him anytime he attacks Igbos or threaten to do so

Even so of those agitating for Oduduwa now will be happy if IPOB is targeted by the army.

Hatred for Igbos is a uniting factor in Nigeria!

MoonWater:
Don't worry, the tweet is nothing to worry about. Buhari was just giving them a friendly reminder that

Niger Deltans...una see una life.
With una oyel, how many of una get 1million for account ? When be say dem dey use una hundreds of millions dey settle bandits on a regular basis.

Moral of the story by Ashe

Mods pls create a section for N-power.

Kilode?

Cocck and bull story

Yet he still gave his daughter?

Ever8090:
Igbos don cast,.them don dey Sabi them by tribe an names all over the world