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Nigeria is not a serious country!

If the mathematics did not add up when details come out then they have to review the judgment!

If they want to kill their own people let them do it in their own country

Witchersunited:
how does giving police money end at Fulani killing people?

U're being tribal, look at the map again, how many people have they killed in the south west that ure raising false alarm?

If they are killing their own people more than you doesn't that explain alot to you? Must everything be tribal, na wa

History will repeat itself. Nothing Awolowo did not do to be president to eventual suicide. Tinubu is following his footsteps!

Those who fall behind will be left behind.

Flyingngel:
DMerciful post:




Is that Biafra map? That's South south and South East. Anyways..that's technically Biafra





Guy South South is not technically Biafra. in fact if the I jaws, Ishekeri , Benin, Urhoho ,etc are Biafran, we the Ibibio are not.

Is that Biafra map? That's South south and South East. Anyways..that's technically Biafra

Flyingngel:
DMerciful post:





Look at this map and see injustice. How can the East be in the middle of the South?
The Fulani/Hausa caliphate did everything to cut the Igbos from the sea. Abia should have extended to the sea. At the fullness of time these boundaries will be redrawn just as Isreal was redrawn in 1948!






Guy wetin Akwa ibom dey do for ur Biafra map?

They speak Igbo language, go and die

President2031:
That they share similar words with you igbos doesn’t mean they speak Igbo.

Do the Edos speak Yoruba?

Do the Ikwerres speak Igbo?

Do Americans speak British English?

You need to come out to the modern world, you’re still backward.

Ndoni speak Igbo language. Why are you arguing what you can easily verify?

President2031:
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What is Wikipedia? Have Wikipedia visited the chiefs of those communities to verify?

Go and look at the writer of that article on Wikipedia he is an Igbo man like you so no surprise.

Even you can write on Wikipedia and they will safe the article if you are in the USA.

Ndoni speak Igbo language, deal with it!

Osaze007:
Ijaws are settlers in ondo same way Egun’s are settlers in Lagos

Does it matter to be the wealthiest? Provided you have a very high standard of living for your citizens. I told you Switzerland is landlocked, you started giving excuses!

Osaze007:
It depends on euro union for sea access and it’s not the wealthiest nation in Europe

Ndoni speak Igbo language. Beside are all the people in delta state one tribe? Dont you have Ijaws in Ondo state? You forgot that from Rivers state to Calabar to Enugu is just one state at independence. This carving was done with the sole purpose of caging Igbos!

President2031:
Let’s keep tribal politics aside, how do you mean Abia should have been extended to the sea?

If you look at that map, you will notice that the people in that area in Rivers state which blocks Abia south from the sea are not Igbo people. They are Ogoni (Khana) and Opopo/Ndoni people of Rivers state.

Please educate me on Abia state should have been extended to the sea as you claim. Thanks

Switzerland is landlocked!

Osaze007:
See why we no follow una enter Biafra
Igbo land is landlocked

There was a major outcry in 2012 but when it was removed, you people occupied lagos.
You are the child in 2012!

obailala:
Oga please I dont do childish arguments. I showed you a link which contains my figures, there are also 1000 other news sites which contain the same info free for the public (do a google search and help yourself)..

If you cant open the link and read, or if it is beyond your intellectual capacity to do your own verification research bia google, then I'm sorry, I cant be of help to your kind.

Meanwhile regarding 2019, I dont know how much was paid for subsidy in 2019 because it hasnt been announced yet; 2019 just ended 2 weeks ago.

Go and sit down! GEJ yearly budget never reached even #5 trillion. Are you saying he used 50% of the budget for subsidy? Liar!
Why dont you show up till 2019?

obailala:
The fraud is actually Reno Omokri who recently succeded in deceiving you and millions of other unsuspecting Nigerians with his usual barefaced shameless lies and propaganda. It's a shame many Nigeria's still havent learnt to verify info they hear from dubious politicians.

N1.2trillion was the amount spent on subsidy in 2014 alone and that was the lowest amount spent on subsidy by GEJ between 2011 and 2014. In 2011 alone, subsidy bill was N2.1trillion (this was the highest ever in Nigeria's history - the year of the massive subsidy scam which forced govt to attempt removing subsidies in Jan 2012).

On the contrary, the N1.8 trillion you quoted which was spent on subsidy by GMB was the TOTAL sum spent in 4 years, i.e. 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/nigeria-spent-n9tr-on-fuel-subsidy-in-10-years-pppra.html

With your above skewed nalysis comparing 1 year vs. 4 years, we can conveniently say RENO has achieved his aim of misleading the public.

Look at this map and see injustice. How can the East be in the middle of the South?
The Fulani/Hausa caliphate did everything to cut the Igbos from the sea. Abia should have extended to the sea. At the fullness of time these boundaries will be redrawn just as Isreal was redrawn in 1948!

See how you likened the supreme court of Nigeria to a kangaroo court? A case that went to tribunal as well as appeal court? Is it Ihedioha's job to be announcing the result? Is that not INEC job? Who cancelled the result? If INEC follow their own rules, will the election not be declared inconclusive and a rerun ordered?
You are writing all these epistles because deep down you're trying to convince yourself justice was done. The supreme court ought to be a court of justice and not one of technicalities!

garfield1:
ON THE IMO STATE CASE, I FINALLY AGREED THAT THE SUPREME COURT GOT IT RIGHT!
For simple analogy, read this:

So that you crying lots can understand, I will break the judgment down for you in a layman way. Hope Uzodinma went to court, he told the court; I was rigged.

The court asked 'Can you prove your case', he answered, 'Yes', the court said 'Okay, Prove your case'.

Hope said no problem, he called 54 witnesses, he presented results of 388 polling units across the state where his votes were excluded. At the final INEC collation centres, INEC merely write 'Not Available' in the 388 columns where the votes of APC and Hope should be recorded, whereas, the column were filled and signed by all party agents, INEC and Police at the polling units.

Hope was smart, he gather the form EC8A his agents received at the 388 polling units where his votes were recorded and signed by all party agents, he also got form EC8B in all the 388 wards where his votes was unrecorded and was not therefore signed by his (APC) party agents. He presented all of that to the court and ask the court to explain why votes recorded at the PU went missing at the Ward, Local and State collation centres.

The Court said okay, we've heard you. They turn to the PDP and Ihedioha and asked him, did you hear what Hope said and see what he presented? Ihedioha said Yes. Court now asked him, do you agree with him?, he said No. Court then asked, what do you have to say.

Ihedioha called just 1 witness, he said what Hope presented and said was false. The Court said okay, but present the truth. Ihedioha said although I don't have any form or paper to present and I don't have more than 1 witness to call, but I know what Hope said is false. The court said Okay, hold on.

The court turned to INEC, did you hear what Hope said? They said Yes. Is it true? they said we don't know. The court asked if the form EC8A presented by Hope, where his votes were included and signed by all party agents and INEC was truly issued by INEC, INEC said Yes. They ask again, do you have any other contrary results or forms from the one Hope presented, INEC said No. The court said Okay. We are coming.

The court turned to the Police, who provided security for the election, do you hear what Hope said? Police said Yes, the court asked further, were you given the form EC8A at polling units level as provided for by the law? Police said Yes. Court ordered them to present it and they did, court cross-checked if it's the same with the one presented by Hope and alas it was.

Court then called Ihedioha, come and check it and juxtapose, he did, they asked if the form EC8A presented by INEC and the one presented by Hope which Ihedioha has just seen are the same, he said Yes. They asked him, what do you have to say? He insisted, it was forged

Court then told Ihedioha, you are a thief, Hope has proved his case and they declare hope the winner.

ME? I REST MY CASE.

OP, the fact that 5yrs on, you're still trying to convince Nigerians that Bubu is better than GEJ means Bubu is a failure. If he is better then it would have been obvious. You said sentiments should be left out but provided no data.

On education,

GEJ built 12 federal universities to ensure there is a federal university in every state.
He also built almajiri schools to cater for the abandoned children up North. Bubu has not built even a nursery school.

On agriculture

GEJ administration cut our agricultural import from N1.2 trillion annually to N600 billion (50% reduction in 5yrs). Bubu keep shouting rice upandan you would think Nigerians started eating rice today.

On subsidy

We were doing about N1.2 trillion during GEJ tenure but Bubu said if anybody tells you he is subsidizing anything, that person is a fraud. Bubu is subsidizing with N1.8 trillion and we are paying double the amount for petrol inspite of the subsidy even when crude is at a lower price. Who is the fraud now?

On security

In GEJ time we had Bokoharam
In Bubu's time we have Bokoharam, Herdsmen, Bandits, ISWAP

On corruption

GEJ introduced IPPIS, BVN, TSA,
Bubu has not introduced anything other than media propaganda and invasion of judges home 2am in the night to wipe them into line.

On election

Comparing GEJ to Bubu on electoral integrity is an aberration!

On rule of law

No comparison

All GEJ children schooled in Nigeria while Bubu Children schooled or still schooling in UK where they take presidential jets funded by taxpayers money to go for selfie taking!

No president can be worse than Bubu even if they deliberately try to.

Same person who said Abacha never stole is accusing the international community of not releasing Abacha loot

If you use data alone to do the comparison, Bubu is the worst president since amalgamation!

Harry has always been rebellious right from time. He only now found a support for more rebellion!
Perhaps he has evidence they killed his mother Dianna for real!

Bokoharam, Bandits, Herdsmen killings is the retribution for the 1966 pogrom against Easterners! After the appropriate retribution there will be atonement! Pogrom killed 30,000 Easterners, how many has BH, Herdsmen, Bandits killed?

You will not advocate for seccession no what what? Are you for real? What's with you guys and one Nigeria? Niger Delta oil?

DaBullIT:
Of all the tribes in Nigeria , Yorubas are the most stable and will not advocate for seccession , whatever the circumstances

My only fear is that the group is not hijacked for politicians and that they employ/ recruit educated people , not just local hunters q

If you look at most of the state creation, they were done under military. It seems only the military actually have the power. Most of these states were created by Illegitimate governments. We are stuck!

LegendHero:
I disagree with the above names. These guys you mentioned here will make a weak president.

The only strong southerner I can think of is among the names you mention is Wike.

Why is Buhari strong? It is because he is not always moved by media opinion. That is the first strength a president need in ruling a country like Nigeria.

When the North was blackmailing Jonathan government with Boko-Haram, he was weak to respond will full wrath of the power of the presidency and his inaction cost him the presidency seat. You need to have the heart as hard as a lion to rule this country and effect any structural changes.

Sometimes you have to compromise, you loose a little to gain big. The Palestinians were given Eastern Jerusalem in 1998 by President Clinton and Ehud Barak the Isreali prime minister then but they refused saying they want the whole Jerusalem. Now they even collect the whole Jerusalem and even some part of West Bank from them.
The agreement Ojukwu signed with Awolowo,
how come it wasnt documented? Where is the agreement? Ojukwu and Awolowo are dead so why should the dead control the living?

Ndibunna:
Same agreement Ojukwu reached many years ago with Awolowo. Is like you don't know the people you are dealing with .

Nigeria is a school, lesson and turn off.

If I say today biafra is strictly an Igbo issues and nobody or igbos ain't dragging anybody with them which is logically straight


Will others keep quiet and let it be without infiltrating it with propaganda?

These are issues not unity.

It is just fake as of old.

To be honest, a Fayose, a Peter Obi, an Oshiomole, a Makinde, a Wike are the few southerners who can do this. If you parley with the north, its difficult to break agreements and that's why, obj though strong couldn't restructure the country. Tinubu is already parlaying and it make affect his ability to show strength.

LegendHero:
The bolded word is the final solution to all this. But the South still need the power, in as much as the North remain in power, you can't achieve any renegotiation.

The southerners need to carry out a structural changes in the police, military installations, federal parastatals, and a host of other places. You have to limit the hold of the North on the Nigerian architecture. You cannot achieve that by being the VP or being an outside source.

The South need a strong president that can pull things through without minding whose ox is gored. Someone like OBJ and not a weak man like GEJ.

I know as a Northerner, you want the status quo to remain. You better merge with Niger republic where you came from!

Area4Area:
Fight your battle alone and allow others fight theirs, you've always told the whole world that you can go it alone so prove it

The East cannot get Biafra alone and you know this. Neither can we get restructuring by ourselves. The Westerners cannot either. The North is too big to be tackle by either the East or West alone unless you want Nigeria to remain as it is. Sometimes, you have to join forces to fight a common enemy and separate based on signed agreement when it's all over.

Ndibunna:
United for what exactly?

Power eventually belongs to the people. SE governors are in opposition parties so afraid of witch hunting. The average Igbo man want quick fixes that's why they dont like Ohaneze slow approach instead want Kanu quick approach which has high probability of failure, same thing Ojukwu did( he could have delayed the war to get more allies). If Tinubu keeps silent and peradventure he gets presidency, the North will cage him and possibly make his govt ungovernable if he does anything against Northern interest. Being a Nigerian president is not the ultimate but forcing a sovereign national conference so we can renegotiate our existence and adopt a new constitution

LegendHero:
Tinubu is not anti-restructuring, most of you guys don't understand Tinubu. The Yorubas most times are realist and we always explore all channels before going for the target. Tinubu currently cannot show his true color because power needs to be wrestled from the North.

Forget about his culture of silence, in the background he is supporting Amotekun and without him granting the governors the go-ahead they wouldn't have pull it through. Afenifere is weak, they are not the old Afenifere and it will be hard for them to front for the SW. They don't have any power in the West to bargain for the Yorubas.

Ohanezes also don't seems to have the power. Your governors are the one that still have some power to effect changes but I am not sure if they can come together to push for something of such. Having a leader sometimes is good because it will be very easy to rally people for a common good.

Why do you support injustice and fraud? What the supreme court did is a criminal judgement. Supreme Court is a fraud

garfield1:
It came from manual accreditation

Igbos does not have a person they reverence,
not even Ojukwu( Ojukwu contested and got abysmal votes, in the civil war, there was no choice for the Igbo people esp after the pogroms). Ahaneze is maybe the org that can be a rallying point. Afenifere is also pro restructuring and aligns well with Ohaneze and Igbos in general unfortunately Tinubu is currently anti restructuring and anti-Afenifere.

LegendHero:
I am always on and off with the game of thrones so I don't know much about the scenes you just described. However, it will be in the interest of the SE & SW to ally and forge a common path to save this Naija.

Although, there is little we can do with our online arguments, the main deal can only be perfected by the leaders of the Yorubas and Igbos. I know Tinubu is the right contact in Yorubaland but I don't seems to know anyone in the SE that can be a rallying point.

Have you been directly involved with an Igbo man and he treated you bad or you're using people's experience? Sometimes people tell us that other people are bad. We have not seen it but we hold on to the stereotype with both hands.

Taba21:
If you're a real Delta, it's means you're not Biafra, not even Igbo because the Igbo peoples won't tolerant anyone claiming his territory with difference identity in his region of the East.

Good luck brother

If you watched game of thrones, at a time the wildlings had to join forces with humans to defeat the white workers are are ghostlike. It took one man John Snow to bring this unity. He was killed for bringing this unity was was resurrected by the god of light

LegendHero:
Yes I want the same too. We should all come together to deal with the common enemy first then we can then stay on our lane after that.

Everybody migrated from somewhere eventually. River State was created less than 55yrs ago by military government so do you know what it means? It's like drawing a line on a flat plain and hating people on the other side of the line that you just drew that they are different. I live with indians, canadians, Iranians, Americans, Brazilians, Mexicans and everybody live as one. But people with nothing like to be disunited for nothing!

Taba21:
Checks your ancestors history and you will understand that any one that claimed being Biafra, in Delta, or any part of region is a migrants who came for a sustainable.

Am from Delta, south and port Harcourt center