₦airaland Forum

jonbellion:
Wait oo DoctorAlien why aren't you in church??
*gaap*
Are you pinging in the service??

You don't know who I am

Lennycool:
With enough changes the bacteria would become a totally different strain in evey manner.

I must laugh!

Please, who's talking about strains here? Do you think everybody cannot differentiate between strains and species?

It isn't bad to admit that nobody has observed evolution in any replicable way whatsoever.

Lennycool:
Belief system or not. You learnt the basics from your society. If you were in Pakistan how often would you have even heard of Christ. And if you were in nigeria before the coming of the missionaries you would have known absolutely nothing about Jesus. Then how do you think your belief system would have come about.

Who knows something about Jesus? The person who mentions His Name? Who do you think Jesus is?

You're an example of people who know nothing about Jesus. Some people in Pakistan who have not heard the Name of Jesus know of Him more than you do.

Lennycool:
Well you can kill a bunch of bacteria with antibiotics, the ones that remain will be resistant, allow them to multiply and kill them again with the same antibiotics, continue doing so and eventually you'll find out none of the bacteria can be killed with the antibiotics any more. They have all evolved against that particular strain and the only way to kill them would be to change the antibiotics. This is what is currently happening in the world of drugs. The bacteria is evolving to fight the meds.
Other methods would take longer, from a few hundred years to millions.
Evolution takes time.

Red herring.

I didn't ask you to explain adaptation to me. Neither did I ask you to explain to me why most antibiotic drugs no longer affect bacteria.

Show me a video of one species turning into another species, or tell me how I can observe it.

Lennycool:
But the main gist is that you were born in a predominantly Christian environment. And thus it is the factor that most matters.
If you were born before the missionaries came you would have been a traditional worshipper like your ancestors.
No religion is right or wrong and if there is a God they got it all wrong.

Who told you so? What do you think Christianity is? Just mentioning Christ's Name? I was never born into an environment predominantly practising the belief system which I practise now.

Learn to construct arguments with minimal assumptions.

Lennycool:
Scientist don't just believe it they prove it with verifiable facts. There findings can be carried out by anyone with means and determination.
And there findings if proved wrong is corrected. It is not belief.

Show me video of bacteria turning into worms, or tell me how I can replicate the experiment and observe it.

Lennycool:
Then why is every one understanding him differently in different religions. If God was a universal factor he would have been the same all over the world. Same as 1+1=2
And the fact that something can be understood doesn't mean it exist inside anywhere but the mind.
I understand the Harry potter novels those that mean they are real. People understand star wars and start trek are they real?

As far as He is understood, He exists. This is because you cannot understand something that does not exist. Suffice it to say that 2 can also be understood as 0.75 + 1.25. Or even 2 x 1. Or even 0.5 x 4. Or even 7-5.

There are some universally understood things about GOD:

1. He is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

2. He created the Universe.

3. He sustains it.

4. He deserves worship.

EyeHateGod:
Good Now you understand so Move along

EyeHateGod:
Exactly One does Not Believe Superman Is Real You Either Understand Him or You dont


Now you are making Sense...

It follows then that one cannot understand something that does not exist. And since GOD can be understood, He exists.

EyeHateGod:
One Does not Believe in Evolution You Either Understand It Or You Don't!

One does not believe in GOD. You either understand Him or you don't.

I actually pity atheists.

akintom:
Oh boy, you religious folks obviously live a life of hiding behind one finger. Don't you know that the world system revolves on competitive ideological balance?

Religious beliefs is an evil and inimical idea, that every rational beings have responsibility to ensure it's contained. It doesn't matter who or where it's being spread.

Do you realize you are addressing the public? Your bet is to keep your thoughts to the micro space of your brain. If you don't want to be challenged.

All I see in this post is a person's idea and beliefs. Nothing worthy of consideration.

If no amount of belief makes something a fact, why do you hold evolution as a fact just because many "scientists" believe it?

akintom:
My area of focus is God-idea, which was introduced by primitive (early) men, and being propagated by deluded modern folks.

It's the different oral and written accounts of this God idea, that tells the A-Z of all that can be KNOWN about God.

Therefore, i can only DISPROVE its existence by using the very means of its introduction into human experience.

That i have been doing with my writing on the series of "inherent evils in religious ideologies".

If you're not satisfied with the scientific position on the origin of life, then hold on to your beliefs.

Who introduced the idea of GOD to primitive men?

I was holding on to my beliefs, anyway. I didn't call you into this thread.

akintom:
Your God does exist, BUT just that it's the very one you created with your very minute knowledge base.

Just as spiderman exist in a better scripted fictional story book, than the one that created God idea.

What is your own GOD? If none, how did the universe come about?

DeSepiero:
Since its so pertinent that you know my stand, let it be known to you that I believe in a cause (God) to the universe.

Where is that GOD?

EyeHateGod:
One Does not believe in a God One has To Have Knowledge Of it...When it Becomes Knowledge It can Be proven and Tested with the same Objective Result...

Are you tilting towards empiricism? What is knowledge? Is knowledge obtained only by studying physical things?

DeSepiero:
Kindly answer the question if you would. My believe doesn't change the truth. Does it?

Of what use is it if I begin to explain to anybody why Jehovah is the true GOD when such a person doesn't believe that any GOD who created and sustains this Universe exists?

Brother, do you believe that a GOD exists who created and sustains this Universe?

DeSepiero:
Lmao. Don't you think Buddhism is the true way to God. Why do you choose Christianity?

Do you believe that GOD exists?

Lennycool:
Are you a Christian because you arrived at it or because people in your family and society were Christians. If you were born in pakistan you would be Muslim. In China Buddhist. In Japan atheist.

I am a Christian today because I arrived at the fact that a GOD exists purely by thought processes. How I was able to differentiate the fake from the real is a whole new topic. I do not boast, anyway. The LORD mercifully drew me to Him.

The above bolded is a hasty generalization, especially when you consider that some people born into those countries and into those belief systems are Christians today.

Sisterme,

On the subject of Trinity: I want you to read this article.

Thank you.

Lennycool:
Most of these arguments have been bashed repeatedly by Dawkins and Co

I can almost certainly say that you did not read that article, because if you did, this would not be your answer.

Are you sure you're an atheist because you arrived at it by your own thoughts, or are you an atheist because Dawkins is an atheist?

You thoughts are welcome.

Weah96:
The Bible was not written in English. The people who translated it to English made tons of errors. Seeing without believing is foolishness in general, but sometimes people get lucky anyway, or as you may call it blessed.

Okay. Bye.

jonbellion:
lol on his flying horse?
And then all eyes would see him on an earth that isn't flat
Lol if you say so

Why are you bothered? Why not wait forget about this fable? Doesn't it sound like stories about Zeus and all that?

TomHagen:
21) The Tom Hagen argument

Really? I would love to read it.

Weah96:
Blessed is like word lucky. It's lucky to believe something without seeing it, and wind up correct. That's basically the correct translation.

Most of the times, if you follow something without seeing any proof of it manifestation, you end up being wrong. A few times, you can guess correctly.

I really don't know what your question you're answering: are you debating Jesus's Words that those who believe in Him even without seeing is not true?

Your post is not needed, as we shall know who winds up correct on that day when Jesus Christ will come back.

WARNING: This article contains highly intellectual material. If you know that your brain capacity cannot support/process highly critical and logical thoughts, you can forget about reading the article.

Okay ladies and gentlemen. Put on your thinking caps and discover 20 Arguments for the Existence of GOD.

So I found this impressive piece on some of the most excellently thought-out arguments for the existence of GOD. It contains for the existence of GOD:

1. The Argument from Change
2. The Argument from Efficient Causality
3. The Argument from Time and Contingency
4. The Argument from Degrees of Perfection
5. The Design Argument
6. The Kalam Argument
7. The Argument from Contingency
8. The Argument from the World as an Interacting Whole
9. The Argument from Miracles
10. The Argument from Consciousness
11. The Argument from Truth
12. The Argument from the Origin of the Idea of God
13. The Ontological Argument
14. The Moral Argument
15. The Argument from Conscience
16. The Argument from Desire
17. The Argument from Aesthetic Experience
18. The Argument from Religious Experience
19. The Common Consent Argument
20. Pascal's Wager

This post above me commits a logical fallacy called "appeal to ridicule" in the sense that it submits that Jesus hid away from the crowd because He had no power(which is an assumption) to destroy them, and therefore He could not have been the Almighty.

Considering the fact that the Jews find it offensive whenever a man claims GOD's Name, why then did they want to beat Jesus?

1. Jesus proclaimed Himself "I AM." That is GOD's Name.

2. Jesus forgave sins. Only GOD can forgive sin. Isa. 43:25

3. Jesus is self-existent(Jn. 1:1-4; Jn. 14:6). Only GOD is self-existent(Psa. 90:2)

4. Jesus is eternal. Rev. 1:8; Micah 5:2; Heb. 7:3

5. The Father calls Jesus GOD. Heb. 1:8

gistsstack:
what's important is the question not the answer. no answer can put an end to biblical inquiry, since every answer turns out to be a new question.
When some people ask critical question about the bible or God's existence, such people are seen by most Christians as agnostic or atheist.
How can Majid say that biblical "writings are compatible, in agreement, in one accord, related, consistent, orderly and harmonious.” when there are so many contradictions and inconsistencies.
Read Proverbs 25:21 against Luke 10:19
Leviticus 27:30 against Deuteronomy 14:24

How are those verses you provided contradictory?

jonbellion:
lol nawa for you people oo. The devil was Thomas father Na
You do know he was in the company of jesus'
for 3 years and actually SAW his miracles
So he was actually stupid not to believe
Unlike me that I haven't seen sh*t

Jesus did not commend Thomas' doubt/unbelief:

"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." Jn. 20:29