₦airaland Forum

AskProf:
The 8.64 billion was never for just one but for all 469 members... Do the maths... & do you remember what minimum wage is? Are you aware the have about 6 other allowances which makes a Senator take home about 30 million monthly?

Now we are talking. If the allowance is that much, then it needs to be reduced by 85% at least.

harveyspec:
you aren't getting the point, Nigeria has no maintenance culture, you brought up the BOOT in defense to the post you quoted to prove that it's out of Nigeria's hand i.e that Russia will build & operate & transfer

But the question is after it is transferred, can Nigeria maintain the facility?




if the refinery couldn't be maintained after the transfer, what makes the nuclear plant any differ?

You couldn't handle that which was less complex, how then will you be able to handle that which is complex

The preventive & maintenance policy for refinery could not be followed, how will that of a nuclear plant be any different



@the bolded, the reason you aren't hearing is becos of corruption & coverup

So trust me, when there is an abuse in management process of the nuclear waste, same thing will happen you won't hear, you will only get to hear if its a major one

I work in the Niger delta region, there are loads of spills in varying levels on a weekly basis, but do you get to hear them? The answer is NO

Am speaking based on facts, what I see with my eyes.

speaking of supervision, radioactive materials (source) for xray were brought to our site & kept in our office meanwhile there is a bunker meant for such. Management took that decision & kept mum about it

People were passing to & for without knowing there radioactive material was there!!





@the bold, yet you corrected the fellow by saying scientist don't run plants but technicians but here again you listed scientists as one of those that run plants. What an irony!!!



@the bolded, pls these have never been a factor, it has always been becos of corruption

There is a federal government project currently going on in the Niger delta region, they have spent 5yrs now with nothing to show for it, billions have been sunk in & they are nowhere near mechanical completion, just because certain individuals are getting a cut


We can argue on & on, the point is not until a good maintenance culture & a robust emergency rescue plan is put in place. Nigeria shouldn't go nuclear

You see. This is the reason I am sceptical about the project. Anyways we will be watching.

geesampower:
Hehehehehe
Naija!!!
But seriously our soldiers should stop punishing civilians in this manner. Just that some civilians too are strong headed, if you don't treat them like animals they won't behave.

So there is no law against this kind of practice?

Isn't there a law against this kind of abuse?

ceejay80s:
500k fair?
That money go buy 714 TM shirts, u fit wear 714 shirt finish in 4yrs ?

lol. But it's a lot better than 8 billion?

AskProf:
Really?

I meant compared to the alleged 8 billion.

cjrane:
^^^^^^^^^^
Great shot, thank you Liberty300!
I like the fact that the median of Chime avenue is green, but the grass needs to be kept low.
We also need palm trees to line that road to give it a truly awesome feel of a great city center.
We want Chime avenue to look like the picture below.
Someone should please upgrade Chime avenue from an okay to an awesome avenue complete with trees, lined streets and all. It is afterall part of Enugu CBD in a way.

Igboson1&2, i nokwa ebea?

Seriously, one of the best pictures I have seen so far.

bushdoc9919:
In case you did not notice....oil has dropped from $125 to $65 in the last 14 months.

Meaning we do not have the money anymore.

So...they better cut their coats or their wardrobes according to their size

If it's actually 500k then I think it's not that bad.

bushdoc9919:
Hokay Mr Senate President.....now how's about finding ways to cut that money by half?

Come on man. Greedy man

Nice. 500k is really fair.

Edit; This is only part of their many allowances

I am not Gej biggest fan, but solid points in some of them (1,5,6,7,9). Again, my observations.

dazdilijae:
It is solely run by Nigerians the Present VC of Katsina University Prof Funtua was 1 the past head of the facility
there is nothing like a small nuclear installation. its a HEU facility so not a small facility
we can do it. We have been doing it

Okay Sir. Really good to know.

dazdilijae:
To ease your mind have you heard of the Nirr-1 in Zaria? its a research reactor and could be said to be a miniature power plant only in this case it is used for research. it contains all the components of a power plant with respect to the nuclear technology( not the turbines n co)
for its age it can be classified to be old as the core(fuel) is low now and needs replacements but its in a process of conversion from HEU(high Enriched Uranium to LEU (Low Enriched Uranium) as to reduce transportation and fuel purchase wahala and has undergone regular inspections from both the IAEA and NNRA.(four times annually without notifications)
Nigeria has operated this facility from inception to date with out an incidence. the regulatory agency in charge has done a wonderful job that it is one of the leading agencies in Africa. The Former DG of the agency was the Chairman forum for Nuclear regulators in Africa. Today the Secretary is from Nigeria so YES WE CAN HANDLE IT

Cool. I will like to believe we can handle something probably 10000 times the magnitudes of that found in zaria research lab.
In the sheme of things, it is still the best option from an economic point of view. Nuclear Plants are surely one of a kind excercise. In spite of the safety concern, Nukes can last 60,80, or even 100yrs. At these time frames, even 24 billion dollars a pop is a bargain.

Do we know the kind of nuclear power plant? The new Gen 3 power plant are a bit safer but they are not without their concerns too.
Most of the huge expense and safety issues (though they have killed far less than coal, oil, even wind, per gigawatt-year electricity) is from using water as coolant.

Molten Salt Reactors use no water. High inherent and passive safety, see http://liquidfluoridethoriumreactor.glerner.com/2012-liquid-fluoride-thorium-reactors-have-passive-and-inherent-safety/. The worst possible accident in MSR such as LFTR would be a few square meters, cooling to a stable solid salt that even traps most of the fission products. Nothing to spread in the air or water. Loss of coolant accident in MSR is physically impossible, the fuel is dissolved in and chemically bound to the coolant, and the materials can handle the hottest the reactor could possibly get.

dazdilijae:
1. The UAE is building the same thing at the same price now (u can Google it)
its a BOOT meaning Nigeria doesn't pay before rather the Russians would invest their money in building the plant then operate it to recoop their money while training and building the required competence locally and @the end of the contract period(15- 30yrs) they transfer the installation to the Nigeria.
2. A nuclear power plant is not like NEPA, the security levels and associated infrastructure cant be easily vandalized its like a military base.
to prove to you we can handle it google [b]Nirr-1 [/b]to see how long a nuclear facility has operated in Nigeria without any incidence or accident
Have some faith in your country we have proven to the IAEA we are capable if not no one would even talk to you talkless of getting into a contract.

Oga you are very funny. You are using a small scale nuclear reactor probably managed by an international companies, as a proof of our eligibility. You might be right sha.

dazdilijae:
we are capable and have proven same for over 12yrs with the GIF in Gwagwalada and NIRR-1 in zaria.

I wish you can appreciate the level of what we have here, rather than using Gwagwalada as a justification of why Nigeria is capable of maintaining nuclear power plant.
One of my criticisms of “Nuclear Matters” is the safety matters, too.
This “long, hard look” at nuclear power requires the scrutiny of aging atomic power plants that are more and more expensive to operate because the technology itself is antiquated and inherently dangerous. Aging nuclear systems and structures are requiring more oversight, more qualification, more frequent inspections, more expensive repairs and more large component replacement parts.
The question is, are we going to be that much advanced and organise by the time the nuclear plant is aging?

British people are very organised, advance with a strong maintenance culture. Yet, they are still dragging their feet in allowing EDF to build a nuclear reactor. That should tell you something. Please don't be deceived. we need all the facts and not some fantasy specifications Nigerian politicians and scientists are so accustomed to dishing about.

if i am not wrong, strongest opposition to nuclear has to do with fukushima disaster which gave anti-Nuclear environmentalist major boost and power to make govt back down on nuclear expansion (Germany is good example)
I am also pro-environmentalist and would love to see world go 100% renewable and green, but would love to compare merits of nuclear with other finite resource based energy.

homerac7:
Sorry, I don't get you.

Did you see the spec? Anyways, we need to understand the comparative value for money, whether we can get a better option for similar price. You seem pretty sold on the idea already, without any effort to divulge further. There are many questions that needs to be asked before blindly engaging in that project.

Bigcake:
you smelly harlot,you expected GEJ to swim in your smelly wide pusssy. you are actually very dull.

Is that the best a retardd like you can come up with? I expect worse when your condition get worse in the evening.

That is a lot more reasonable lol.

bettercreature:
There will always be poor people my brother beside i dont think all these money is our major problem,Nigeria is damn Rich! if government can stop corruption this country is going to be like DUBAI,they have been collecting this money since 1999 and am sure Barcanista knows it he is just being an arse looking for a way to bring down the new government

Nigeria is not rich at all, well not anymore anyways. Richness to me is high Gdp (per capital), and High Hdi. We are not even in the top 30 in either.

2% of the federation budget for 469 members. It must be nice to be among the 0.0001% most powerful people in Nigeria.

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This kind of hatred is not healthy. Why worry about people who don't care about you? Highest form of ignorance.

allcomage:
FOR DESTROYING THAT COLONIAL MASTERPIECE,I'LL NEVER APPRECIATE THIS NEW ONE.IN OTHER COUNTRIES,SUCH BUILDINGS ARE REFURBISHED FOR HISTORY AND TOURISM.WE HAVE MISSED IT AS COUNTRY.THIS IS VERY PAINFUL TO ME.

It is painful to me too, because I know the significance of those kind of buildings.

joseph1832:
My sister, shame no even let me fit quote the guy sef!.

Na dis kind of people wey get this mentality na dem dey cause problem for all of us here for this naija!.

I am telling you oo. It's a shame

Seriously, this is the kind of news that drives international investors away. The northern part of Nigeria leaves me speechless sometimes.

lokoloko84:
Guy I totally agree with you.The northern regions are rich in mineral resources and they will benefit a lot from that. Image if We focused our attention to the exploration of these resources. These regions will be the richest. That why sometimes I laugh at the ignorant ones like Asari and his tribes claiming that other regions are parasites.
I believe that diversification of the economy will lead to true federalism both in fiscal and structural terms when the times comes.
No state or region in reality is poor in this country,only that the resources are still underutilized.

Please what resources are you talking about here? There are 7 most valuable resources in the world, so I will like to know what resources you are talking about that is more valuable than those in the southern region.

attacker231:
Hmmmmmm. But the hypocrite yeebhoes still want the SW to continue with there adopted son even when being marginalized. No wonder they are crying more than the Ijaws, too much greed. With all the positions, they are still begging for 2nd niger bridge and others.

Please listen to yourself. You are still calling Igbos greedy when the northerners are worse. Are you saying they shouldn't demand something that will improve their lives? Please think about this, the northerners are worse in every single ways.