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simmy:You have no idea about whom you are addressing. I guess you are new on nairaland. Observers? God forbid! Not me and you. Let me tell you something; i have been trained in the Word of God enough to know that there's no room for observers in God's Kingdom! We as christians are called and sent to preach the gospel, not by story telling, logic or philosophy but with demonstration of the Spirit and of Power. By the grace of God i have worked miracles with my own hands. I have and still do see the sick healed through me in fulfilment of the Word of God and i'm not a pastor but a christian. It is not uncommon to see young people in our church taking rsponsiblility in God's house. They are not ashmed to preach the gospel everywhere they go while you sit and begin to measure yourself with others, pointing fingers here and there. What judgement did my emotions cloud? The Word of God is the judge my friend and that same word will judge each and every one of us at the end. Is it now a sin to show emotion? Did i say i was in church? Modern day christains? I don't blame you. You do not know who we are, who sent us or what we are about. The scriptures we read and which we are fulfilling were authored by one who is older than this world. Some of you who say CE is doing nothing about corrution are simply naive. Do you know what will happen if we are to off-load all the cultists, armed robbers, prostitutes, including folks like me back into the streets? If that happens, you will run out of the country. Millions of youths who could have carried arms are now carrying bibles and doing something with their lives because of the work of CE in this country. I have witnessed many times armed robbers surrendering their arms at our crusades. You think you know our message but you really don't. Preaching against corruption without power will do nothing. First God empowers the words you speak, even in prayer, then he begins to work in the government and soceity at large. He gives you practical ideas which you will carry out. You have no idea how many lives have been saved because we did not just talk but took action. By the way sef, that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread so you can take your bad-belle else where. The arguement is mircacles; whether or not they were arranged. So if you do not have anything to say just read and log off. |
poetikalz:Of course, God made every body unique to fulfil different purposes on the earth. poetikalz:Do not decieve yourself, go read church history. There have been several moves of God's Spirit since penticost. Even though we are in the greatest move of all time in our day, it isnt the first time revelation is flooding the church and people are coming out of darkness and becoming acquinted with their inheritance. poetikalz:Dont even start, because you can divide in half the attendaces at meetings organized by Christ Embassy or RCCG and they will still exceed those of MFM by far. poetikalz:Are you born again at all? Where are you if not in the Kingdom? That gospel that says we are marching to zion is not from God for we are already there! Hebrews 12:22. poetikalz:No wonder. It is religion you preach (the old one for that matter). Jesus said "from the days of john the baptist, the kingdom of God is preached and every man is pressing into it." Luke 16:16 It is religion that men dread. But the kingdom is taken by force! This is the gospel. . . good news. Any other is not from God. poetikalz:I will not even bother attempting to liberate you from this bondage you have put yourself in because i know your type; they have been in existence right from the days of Jesus. They have not entered the kingdom, yet they try to prevent others from entering. Let me leave you here to continue in your struggle to enter the kingdom. Bye ![]() |
I heard about a top business mogul in nigeria who was healed @ the just concluded healing school session. Even though this is not the first time dignitories have witnessed first hand, the power of God in our meetings, I was so emotional on hearing this testiomony because i remember a friend of mine years ago refer to him as 'no more than a vegetable'; yet he owns some of the largest businesses in Nigeria, some of which are run by the his wife who is also a popular figure. Well it'll be on TV soon for all to see. Well, what can i say, how much will pastor Chris have given such a rich elderly man to pretend to be sick and later miraculously healed. I advice all these mockers on nairaland to repent and go and weep for their sins before their cup gets full. As for our South African brothers who shamelessly went as low as to write unfounded jargon; even though Christ Embassy did not stoop as low as to respond to them, i think the whole world eventually saw not too long ago, how much they 'appreciate' the good work of foreigners in their country with such violent demonstrations. Little wonder, the Night of bliss program was visited with so much opposition because it came to shake satan's kingdom with mighty manifestations of the power and glory of God's kingdom. Devil, your time is up in SA, pack your load and go! |
Truely truely, power pass power. Anyhow they come, we're more than conquerous! God has given us the nations of the world for an inheritance and so shall it be whether satan likes it or not. Glory to Jesus!!!!!!!!! ![]() Well, for your consuption guys . . . http://www.christembassy.org/nobjohannesburg/index.htm Also, a special Interview with director of programs BLW, Rev Tom Amenkianan, who is also a very senior pastor @ Christ Embassy. He talks about the program, and also anwers some questions regarding the criticisms, lies and so on. http://www.christembassy.org/nobjohannesburg/special_interview.htm |
Dont mind them jire, they are afraid of truth. It is over a decade since we started seeing these miracles from pastor Chris' ministry on TV and here we are still trying to get one hungry man from south Africa to identify himself as one who was given money to testify of having recieved a miracle. They try to discredit the miracles because if we all agree that they are true, then their sins and condemnation are before them for they have rejected the son of God in their hearts. |
His wife and children are lovely and in active service of the Lord as far as I know. . . not like some preachers' children i know of . |
By the Way, lest i forget; Night of Bliss comes up again, this time @ the excel centre in London. June 27th, from 7pm till dawn. I am giving this info ahead of time so that thieving journalists and certain christians ( who for reasons i dont iunderstand) can begin to prepare with thier lies and propaganda ahead of time like they did in SA. . |
shinystar:Really. . . You wish. When next you set your eyes on him check if he looks like one who is battling with anything. Continue your junk jounalism until you hear he is the owner of your little newspaper house. Like some TV stations and media houses have already discovered. . . . Buy them up and teach them what good journalism is all about. Hissssssssss. |
While i sympathise fully with the father of the deceased, I beg to say that we be patient and give Pastor Joseph at least the benefit of the doubt. At least we haven't heard his own side of the story yet. It is also possible that a lot of things that were said in the testimony of Rev Innocent were borne out of the pain and emotions of the moment. As a matter of fact i have heard from one who is in touch with Pastor joseph's lawyers and who is following the police investigations closely that most of what was said in Rev Innocent's testimony were totally untrue. Please brethren, let's be a little patient and not quick to judge. Remember the bible says that in the mouth of two or more witnesses is a Word confimed. Let us not trivalise the demise of this dear sister in such a manner. I think she deserves more than that. Let us not be found drawing conclusions on mere speculations. I used to believe most of what i see in the papers until yr 2001 during the Pastor Chris and TB Josuah wahala. Lies, upon bondles of lies. It was then i got to know that most of those columnists and journalists are paid for those write-ups. Christ Embassy was even approached then and asked to pay so as to have them write in our defence. . . It is a shame. So be wise brethren. It is only a matter of time, the truth will surely come out. |
How sad ![]() I hope they get to the bottom of the matter . . .and the offenders punished. As for the title of the thread and its originator, I think he is just towing the line of his junk magazine/ article counterparts who use the name and face of the MOG to sell thier write-ups. Do you know what will happen if we try to link all the attrocities commited by many to thier pastors/ General overseers, priests, Imams? Stories of RCCG, deeper life, Mountain of fire, Chosen pastors abound. . . but these do not minister grace, they are not of good report, they call for watchfulness and prayer, and not for jesting. You sure will make many fans becasue of this thread, but not of true Christians. We are not motivated by satan and his works but by God's Spirit. |
antiChrist. . . yap dat's d word. Cheer up brethren. . . The Word Works! |
Listen to yourself. . . do you sound like Jesus? You are asking that question to the wrong folks because over 80% of candidates who attend the healing school are from other churches including yours. In Christ Embassy, we know how to excercise our faith. The Word works at Christ Embassy Are you aware that there is something like the doctrine of laying on of hands in the church of Jesus Christ? If it were for you, i will not respond, but for many others who might be misled by this your lack of compassion; We are moved by compassion the same way Jesus was. Many of those who come are actually given up to die. For many of them, it is their final bus stop. A lot of them have tried everything they could, many are too weak and cannot even begin to exercise faith without the patience and love that is lavished on them with the Word at the healing school. The come, they hear the Word, their faith is built up, then they make contact with the healing annointing at Work in the Man of God and then a miracle is inevitable. Let me tell you something. Not many churches in this country can have such an outpouring of God's power as we experience at Christ Embassy. The reason is obviuous. . . they have not love. They may shout, speak in tongues, sing, jump, dance but there is no power because faith worketh by love. They are selfish and greedy, there is envy hatred and malice; therefore God is far from their midst. And like you, they neither have respect for the things of the Spirit nor for God's annointed. We lay hands on the sick out of compassion and of course because we know we carry something in our hands. Something that can change the hurting world around us; something which the world needs; something we received freely and which we also give freely. They are not only taught how to recieve their healing but how to live in divine health. There is also a book which everyone of them is given free of charge: How to keep your healing by Chris Oyakhilome. Follow the teachings in it and you wouldnt have to come back for healing. |
Lest they pretend as though they did not see it. . . Healing school registration is on-going in Lagos Nigeria. Register your sick folk ASAP as lectures will run all through the month of May. They should plan to attend lectures for 2 weeks after which hands will be laid on them by the man of God, Pastor Chris. Registration in absolutely FREE! You can register on-line by visiting: www.christembassyhealingschool.org |
Let me tell you something guys, The state of the nation is a direct reflction of the state of the church. As long as satan can keep them envying, blackmailing and insulting one another the growth of the church will be slowed down and the Lord's return delayed. One thing i see is that some of them do not understand how God looks at the church, many dont even understand who the believer is. and that is the reason they misunderstand those who walk in a way they have not seen before. What they do not understand, they call names and what they understand, they destroy. Until they begin to see God in others, they cannot walk in love and until they start walking in love, there'll be no moving forward because they are walking in darkness. . . no results because faith worketh by love. Because they have this deep rooted envy in them, they begin to be unnecessarily judgemental. They look for faults in little things whereas the main issue is envy. If you see something with someone else you like, you have the option of either going up to him to be taught how or you simply like him inwardly and hate him outwardly. unfortunately many of them choose the second option. And the result is they never get what they saw. That is why in Nigeria, it appears there is great grace upon certain men of God that others never seem to walk in. He that honours a prophet recieves a prophet's reward. God told Abraham that he who blesses him is blessed and he who curses him is cursed. So if you see a blessed man and try to curse him or hurt him, you know what you get. But if you love him all the same, you will get to share in his grace and learn what he knows because the Spirit unveils them to you. |
Some comments from South Africans. . . http://www.health24.com/experts/HIV_Expert/979-990.asp?ForumID=75&PostID=1853098 http://youtube.com/watch?v=FimR20eFvmk&feature=related http://hubpages.com/hub/NIGHT-OF-BLISS-WITH-PASTOR-CHRIS http://www.loveworldchristiannetwork.org/news_tv.php?tg=MzI= http://www.loveworldchristiannetwork.org/Newsroom/Christian_Content.php?tag=MTMxNzY=&cate=V29ybGQgTmV3cw== |
And that is typical of what the American liberalists have come to accept. I love her, i watch her show sometimes and i will pray for her because it is only by the power of God that she and her adoring fans can be saved. This is the spirit of the World. Christians should always keep the Word before them for the time has come for us to be even more vigilant and watchful. |
@Wealthyman I agree with you 100 percent. But you see, we shouldn’t expect them to stop their blasphemies just because you warned them. The bible talks about the sons of Eli who despite warning from their father did not stop their sinful ways because God had planned to destroy them. Now that list of yours can actually be extended to include Enconium, and many of them soft sell magazines. They've all gone under. Where are those pastors who openly declared their intention to bring Pastor Chris down and fought to ensure it was done? They have all gone under with disgrace. Their churches are becoming deserted places. The grace of God is no longer seen in their ministries. Now the same press that helped them in their fight against Oyakhilome has turned against them. Not even the departure of a member from their congregation happens unannounced as they go to the papers and not only announce their departure; they speak arrogantly and in a derogatory manner about their pastor. How sad. Stories of immorality, divorce and so on . . . they actually reaped multiplied harvest of what they sowed. Even PFN was not spared because they sanctioned the actions of these MOG and allowed themselves to be misled joining their campaign. In fact I think it is high time Christians came out from behind these names and classifications and actually stand for what they believe, that is if they actually believe anything. Can you imagine? They thought they were smarter than God. They blasphemed against God and His work in their country and then went to invite Benny Hinn as though it is not the same Holy Ghost working in Nigeria that works in America. Well, we all know what happened. Accusations and counter accusations of fraud. They pointed fingers at each other. Even their big names were not left out of this disgrace. The press had a fill day. They made it seem like it was merely a failed business venture . . . as though there were no miracles or testimonies of salvation from the crusade. Till date, the national body of PFN has not been able to organize a single crusade that will impact this nation. They advertised that it will be a 10 million man crusade while I just laughed. Just about 300 000 showed up. Talking about God's judgment? I have seen it happen in Nigeria. I heard (even though I don’t know how true) that Christ Embassy was approached to provide workers for the Benny Hinn crusade and that Pastor Chris responded saying that it was not time for Benny Hinn to come to Nigeria. Whether it was true or not, that response sounded prophetic. A few months after, God asked Pastor Chris to come to Nigeria from SA to organize a crusade for the Nation. It was the Good Friday Miracle Night in 2006. Boy! The nation had not seen anything like that before and even till date. The impact of that crusade is still being felt till today. All of Lagos stood still as 3.5 million Nigerians gathered at the Lagos Ibadan expressway to hear and receive a message of repentance from sin and wickedness from the man of God. Several television stations in Nigeria and around the world showed the program live allowing millions of others to witness the event and partake in the blessing. It was so glorious to see . . . the young, the old, the rich the poor, the drug addicts, robbers, prostitutes, captains of industry, politicians, and dignitaries before the Lord in repentance, praying for forgiveness. Some knelt down, others prostrated, many shed tears while some lifted their heads and hands to God. Those who did not attend were given the tapes and CDs at their, schools, offices, business places etc. as several thousands of these materials were distributed freely nationwide. And the testimonies were mind-blowing. Apart from the numerous healings recorded, there were many other kind of demonstrations of the supernatural power of God. I remember that of a couple whose child was abducted several years ago. The abductors were at the crusade and heard the message from the man of God, repented of their actions and returned the child to the parents. That could only be by the power of God. I heard of another lady (a teacher) who stood her ground refusing to partake in exam malpractice despite pressure from every side. Nigeria has not been the same again ever since that crusade. I know there are many who still wouldn’t recognize these obvious signs . . . and that is because they have been blinded. If God can deal in such a mighty way with the nation, silly comments from misinformed or demon influenced Nairalanders is a small matter. The lesser is included in the greater. . . . Ignore them . . . we know their end. |
My dear, as christians we do not seek miracles, they are the signs that follow us, our credentials . . . know what am sain? I live in divine health and am rich and loaded. Thank u. |
God's general? ok But i think Field Marshal better describes the MOG. |
Hmmm, Why dont you go to the various threads you've outlined and use scripture (not bad-belle) to make your point clear. If i answer you here you will definitely run away from this thread. . . but i will rather ignore the nonsense you just posted. |
Ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha haHa ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha!!!! I can't laugh enough. Is it not satan? . . . he is a looser and a proud one at that. Its too late for the devil. They have lost their hold over South Africa now they are attempting to throw their last shot. Is it today we will start arranging miracles? Pastor Chris has been around for a long time. We really do not need a South african to tell us if they are arranged or not. Like someone earlier said, Nigerians aren't that dumb. We have recorded testimonies of people heald even as far back as the eighties who are still alive and doing the work of God. The world acclaimed healing school holds in SA every season with testimonies of thousands who go from all over the world and are healed. www.christembassyhealingschool.org Why didnt the idiot reveal his identity? This thread is not worth being on Nairaland. No true christain should take this story seriously as they are merely the thoughts of demons. Well, let me just drop this in as i got some inside info on the crusade from my pastor who traveled to SA from Nigeria: A few days before the night of bliss program in SA, a group of people influened by satan rose against the program to say the program shouldnt hold as we wouldnt be able to handle the crowd. They even went to the web to send send out messages saying the NOB program has been postponed indefinitely, tell a friend. Government agencies were mobilized to stop the progam. Political muscles were flexed here and there. At a point, a panel had to be set up and the two groups called foward to debate on the issue of whether the program should hold or not. Isnt this funny? . . . we have handled crowds of 1 million, 2.5 million and even 3.5 million before. SA shouldnt be a problem Well, a day before the program, the government gave the go-ahead for the program to hold. Boy! the program was explossive. In the words of my pastor who attended; "Miracles began to happen ever before pastor Chris arrived the stadium. Even outside the main bowl, miracles happened before pastor arrived. It looked too good to be true as there were shouts of joy as wheel chairs were seen in the air, carried by those they once carried. That is to tell you that It wasnt about pastor Chris but about the Power and grace of God that was mightily present as it always is in our meetings". I tell you, satan and his co-horts are in trouble in SA and all of southern Africa. My pastor who arrived the stadium at 6pm for the program that was meant to be all-night said the stadium was allready packed out with some people leaving because of the crowd. According to her, they had to treck a very long distance frm where they parked their car as there was no space anywhere close to the stadium. On arrival, the gates were shut and she had to look for someone she could talk to, probably a Nigerian to let her in. She finally found a Nigerian who after much convincing with her ID and so on that she was a pastor and the wife of a very senior pastor in the ministry, she was asked to climb a certain platform from where she was thrown over the fence. In her own words. . . thank God i wore trousers and there was no one who knew me around there. Well, it was time to enter the main bowl of the stadium as she had only entered the compound. She joined the camera crew pretending to be one of them in order to get in. It took Winnie Mandela 3hrs to get into the stadium. Her and her former husband insisted they must meet Pastor chris before he left SA. Arrange? please excuse me, try another lie. Satan is defeated . . . Jesus is Lord!! |
You know, some people think that the good preachers are the less controvercial ones. Well that is not true according to the bible. Jesus was controvercial. Look through the lives and ministries of those apostles and prophets whom God used and you will see they were all controvercial people at thye time they lived. Jesus told us in Luke 16:15 that that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. |
True talk. . . |
Look here guys, if we begin to analyse the lives and lifestlyes of penticostal pastors around the world, i tell you many (including many of your favorites will fall by the way side). Unfortunately, these penticostals have refused to acknowledge their ungodly deeds let alone forsake them. Like Jesus said, they try to remove the speck from a brtothers eye without first removing the log from their own eyes. Let me take a little time to show you some things you may have not noticed, hence your distorted sense of judgement. PENTICOSTALS: Teach and preach false doctrines such as compulsory deliverance sessions for every church member (to be organized by the 'man of God' ) after salvation and at a consultancy fee. This is wicked; for whereas they know the truth, they put God's people in bondabge and in subjection to themselves. Many times, without even delivering the good (which is expected as the Spirit of God is against Mammon worship), the people are made to return agian and again for more deliverance. Some even give assignments (ie. something you have to do to like pay for the gift you intend to recieve) maybe in form of a fast, sacrifice of animnal or some other ritual sometimes by the waterside. TB JOSUAH: Teaches no such false doctrines, however demosnstrates God's power to save and deliver the oppressed as the demon possessed are set free with a Word free of charge. He goes further to minister to their, physical, material and financial needs, providing food, clothing, shelter, and even scholarships and businesses for these people who have spent all their income trying to get well. PENTICOSTALS: They envy, hate and backbite one another. They do not know what it is to walk in love. TB JOSUAH: Demonstrates, the love of Christ in his words and deeds. He replies his critics in love, calling them brethren. PENTICOSTALS: Popularity seekers, satisfied with owning a mansion, jeep and a 2000 member church. TB JOSUAH: Said at one time, it is useless keeping money in the bank when we have the poor and needy around us. His love for the poor and needy is known at home and abroad. While his detractors are busy playing church, his passion to reach the lost and needey of the world is evident. And like he said on another occassion on arrival for one of his overseas crusades: i have come to do what i was born for, what i live for and what i will die for. PENTICOSTALS: Many are indisciplined, full of pride, coveteousness, adultry and glutony. They do not know what it is to pray and fast for the lost and needy of the world. They do not know what it is to give themselves to prayer and the Word. They will rather fast and pray 40 days for the death of their enemies than 3 days in worship of God and intersession for the saints and for the lost. TB JOSUAH It is characteristic of him to set himself apart to seek the face of God, in prayer and fasting. He has made holiness his watchword. His hatred for sin and love for the sinner is known at home and abroad. PENTICOSTALS: Are more given to sense-preaching rather than spirit-led preaching. They make effort to please their hearers with many high soundfing words and grammer, but with no power in them. TB JOSUAH: Simple but yet powerful preaching characterize his ministry. His prophesies, whether bordering on individuals or future events, on the local or international scene, always accurate. He moves and speaks as he is led to. PENTICOSTALS: Seek for political offices, or favours. They bring disrepute to their offices as ministers of the most high God. TB JOSUAH: Has Jesus as his first love and respect always. Is not about seeking favors from political leaders, rather, presidents come to him to seek advice and blessings. PETICOSTALS: Pride themselves in their worldly achievements, degrees and awards above the gift of God in them. TB JOSUAH: His humble beginning and lack of formal educatuon did not give room for such pride, but as he was as it were, a vessel prepared to be used for God's glory. I heard him rebuke at one time, those christians who seek Jesus because of what they hope to get saying that they will not recieve and that even if they did, it will not bring the true and lasting benefits as they have not yet made Jesus the centre of all their life's pursuit. Like Jesus, had no formal education, yet professors and captains of industry come to hear him speak. PENTICOSTALS: Preach power without power and that's because they do not really believe. That is why they always employ mediums such as hankies, oils, water, candles, crosses and nowadays, even brooms with little or no result. They have made the gospel of none effect by their traditions and look suspiciously at those who get results without employing such means and tacktics as though to 'help God'. TB JOSUAH: Believes and trusts in the all powerful name of Jesus. Calling the name against sickness, disease, infirmity, death, and devils of hell and they all bow to that name. PENTICOSTALS: Rely on American preachers to show them the new move of God not recognizing that God in these end times has His eyes on Africa and especially Nigeria. They call for financial aid for the gospel from abroad and convert the money for personal use. TB JOSUAH: Is responsible for as much or even greater influx of foreigners (many of whom are ministers) than even the tourism ministry. They come and they are taught, and equiped for world evangelism free of charge. His ministry sends aid in form of food clothe and money to the needy in different parts of Nigeria and around the world. While i will like to stop for reason of time and space, i think in my own opinion God will rather do with one humble, loving, faithful and yielded servant than many noise-making penticostals. . . . no offence intended. . . just my own candid opinion. |
Truth always outlives lies, So where are those proiphets who condemned him to death and even went all out against Pastor Chris Oyakhilome for accepting him as a brother? |
You dont get it abi? Dont worry, you will soon get it, when the trumpet sounds and you are still busy pointing that your judgemental finger. You are obviously unaware of the fact that the church of Jesus Christ is the richest nation on earth. We are children of Abraham, possesor of heaven and earth. It is useless trying to pretend that we are poor. We know who we are. |
You guys havent sen anything yet. |
My dear there are gifts and there are callings. You are not called with the same calling as the one who is an apostle, prophet, pastor or teacher so dont decieve yourself. To attempt to put yourself where you are not called to function is to look for trouble for yourrself. The things of God are not for fun. |
I am not about to go into any such carnal arguements. I am speaking by the spirit and they that are of the same Spirit will hear me. It depends on what type of pastor you have. And is he going to be in charge of the occassion or he will subject himself to the officiating of the elders, traditional rulers and priests. My pastor cannot come and sit down in such a gathering or drunkards and witchdoctors, nodding Amen to their prayers and libations while he smiles that the sinning brethren. |
My dear, I am not planning to die. I plan to meet the Lord in the air at His appearing. By the way, I heard on BBC yesternite about many great World leaders who are set to come together to sign a peace treaty for the middle east. Now that should ring a bell for those of you Christians who are actually knowledgeable in scripture and who are watching closely. Do you recall from scripture what sign this is? God help us. |
@Wordsmith, . . .did he say he hero worshipped him for performing miracles. . . or u wished that was what he said? ![]() I love pastor Chris because he has the Word in his mouth. I am really not in need of any miracle right now because in Christ i got all i need already on the inside of me. Glory! ![]() As a matter of fact, i had already joined Christ Embassy, was born again and recieved the Holy Ghost ever before i saw pastor Chris perform any miracle. I wasnt sick, needed no money because my folks werent broke; was just searching for truth. Rather, when we share the gospel, we help others recieve miracles from God. |
Yeah i noticed A K O, he has the right spirit. . . Such people always find truth. I'd advice Backsliders and co to take thier hatred and witchcraft elsewhere. . . We did not cause your frustration. . . neither did pastor Chris. |
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