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Toby77:
Apples and Oranges; Case by case. Not all cases are the same but as regards to this Coogar story, can you please explain why a supposed Highly skilled Coogar would request his undergraduate girlfriend to Western Union $50 to Arif in India? Please help me understand cos am coming up blanks. This is a supposed highly skilled worker that can get a notoriously difficult non eu work visa plus good pay probably in thousands of pounds per month yet a measly $50, he's asking his unemployed girlfriend to send

Please don't take what I wrote out of context. I never claimed Coogar is a highly skilled worker. What I said was not having a visa doesn't constrain one from seeking and gaining employment in the UK within the private sector, especially such a person is highly skilled. So that statement wasn't made to ascertain Coogar's skills, but to nullify the claim that being a non-EU migrant in the UK automatically precludes him from gaining employment in the UK. Kindly re-read my quote below.

EfemenaXY:
That's not entirely true.

In some sectors (private sectors to be precise), employers actively source out potential employees who are GOOD at what they do. It matters not to these employers if you have a visa or not as they're prepared to get a work visa for you. Only thing is, the visa lasts for as long as you're in their employment.

http://www.visabureau.com/uk/employer-sponsorship.aspx

Mind you, I'm referring to highly skilled workers.

Re:Your analogy of apples and oranges doesn't cut it. A crime is a crime irrespective of the "kind" of crime it is and is punishable under the law. That's why there are rules in the first place - to be adhered to by everyone. Nobody is above the law.

As per asking his girlfriend to send over, in your words, "A miserly $50", what makes you think he couldn't afford it but probably didn't want to? The rest of your statement is emotion laden and a repeat of the first / opening lines.

If I were a prosecutor in court, I'd have a field day with this sentence of yours:

Gamesmart:
It is not just this case. He has a long history. That is why Sauron disappeared.

A long history of what?

Who is Sauron? What solid proof have you got that Sauron is / was Coogar? (Writing styles / tone of lanuage, etc don't cut it. Those are purely circumstantial evidence not based on facts). Have you got any tangible proof say for example, the Internet Protocol address(es) used by both monikers. Do they match? If not, why not?

Gamesmart:
Someone was finally bold enough to come forward and admit I was banged and financially milked. And stood up to the threat of her nudes exposed. Others just left NL.

1. They were in a long term relationship. It ended badly. One party was aggrieved. What proof have you got that this isn't a clear-cut case of a slighted partner wanting to get back at an ex? Mind you, the aggrieved party already open admitted on here that she indulged in self-harming activities. Why? And more importantly, what does that say about her emotional health?

2. If the aggrieved party was indeed being blackmailed by the accused, why did it take eight ( 8 ) months to come forward? Why the lapse? And most importantly, what happened during that time frame? Where they in communication then?

3. Explain the phrase "financially milked". Do you mean defrauded? Did the accused physically / forcefully take money from her? Was she threatened at knife point? Or was this given to him under different circumstances? If yes, how so?

Toby77:
trust me am not assuming anything.

No?

Toby77:
These are the Iron clad facts.

Iron clad based on what? Your say so?

Toby77:
Those that know him will bare me witness.

That's a subjective statement open to interpretation. Anyone can come on here and claim to "know" him. Unless of course, you've got his family / parents backing you up on your claim?

Toby77:
It is based on the fact that he has no job and scamming is his way of life, scamming and begging, hardly the attributes of 'highly skilled workers'

So people with jobs don't scam?

Are you saying scamming and crimes are the exclusive preserve of the unemployed and / or unskilled worker?

Gamesmart:
A highly skilled person would likely not even risk his career for such crimes.

Wrong.

Risking one's career is not dependent on how skilled he or she is. You and I know that even people in places of power (and wealth) have been involved in shady deals. Kweku Adoboli was young. Well educated. Had a bright career many would gladly give their right arm for. So what went wrong? Why did he risk his shinning career?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_UBS_rogue_trader_scandal

Toby77:
maybe you can enlighten me on how a highly skilled worker that is deemed 'Good' to use your own words by private firms would be in a situation where he requests his girlfriend to send a measly $50 to Arif in India? This is someone that is highly skilled and would probably qualify for a work visa and good pay. Can you kindly explain?

It's never wise to make judgments based purely on assumptions.

FACT: Not having a visa doesn't constrain a person (or better still, a non-EU migrant) from seeking and gaining employment in the UK.
http://www.visabureau.com/uk/employer-sponsorship.aspx

ASSUMPTION: We don't know the intricacies (fine details) of this case. There's been a lot of history between the two parties concerned and they only know exactly what went on between them. You only know what you were told by them. You wouldn't know the fine details, and neither would / does anyone else here do. So any judgments made would be based on he said / she said. Unless of course you've got trained investigators, forensic scientists, et al working with you on this?

Gamesmart:
Guys like these are hardly ever in that bracket.

They are lost and their pride and previous reputation of being ballers would not allow them to take low but legal jobs.

The bolded is an assumption on your part. May I ask what it's based on?

I've read a couple of his posts and he does come across as an extremely articulate person with very good penmanship skills. Certainly above what your average Nairalander churns out. That to me, can only be from having a solid educational background.

Toby77:
if he were in this category there would have been no need to be scamming ladies upandan

You do not know that for sure. And neither do I.

The point is, Gamesmart's assertion that without a visa, you can't get work in the UK is wrong. You can work in the UK even if you're from a non-EU country.

Whether he does have that level of skill or not is a different issue.

Gamesmart:
Liquidising what?

You really don't understand guys like this. She said he has been living illegally in the country since his visa expired in 2011. Do you think it would be easy for him to get a job? He is depending on other people's credit card and girls to live day by day. She never saw his place, so it is likely he does not have one to himself, probably squatting. This is the same thing we have been hearing about Sauron well before this. He has no money.

Once in that lifestyle, they become what is known as NINJAs.

N o IN come, J ob or A ssets.

What are you liquidising? You believe he flew to Nigeria to do BVN and he is an IT contractor with a specialist accountant called Arif?

That's not entirely true.

In some sectors (private sectors to be precise), employers actively source out potential employees who are GOOD at what they do. It matters not to these employers if you have a visa or not as they're prepared to get a work visa for you. Only thing is, the visa lasts for as long as you're in their employment.

http://www.visabureau.com/uk/employer-sponsorship.aspx

Mind you, I'm referring to highly skilled workers.

I do love high heels though. But I tend to be less "free" with them. And worry more about the heels wearing out. That's why I tend to reserve them for the office. I do it the lazy way. I've got a couple of high heels at my bottom drawer at work so it's less hassle.

Check out my profile pic. That an example of what I wear at work. Not too high and not too low.

SAMBARRY:
Abeg o i nor want make them pour me acid or baptize me with hot blazing water.furious wives are lurking around o.Xmas is on the way.I want to celebrate it at home and not in the police station or hospital

Lol!

You too dey fear. Sagamite is a generous giver. Besides, we all embrace polygyny, so no harm shall befall thou. We're one big happy family - wives and side chicks inclusive.

Mindfulness:
If they pay me money for wearing these ugly bricks, I will wear them too but I won't damage my spine for free.

I prefer those ones occasionally.

[img]http://ell.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/01/980x490/54a752560309b_-_elle-high-heels-h-elh.jpg[/img]

Without the gold and not so high. I love elegance and elegance means simplicity.

These are much better, but you'll be tottering around.

I wear heels at work too, but not this high, and certainly not on my way to work. I wear trainers, then when I get to the office, trade them for my pumps.

bellong:
Efe,

Na me do am for him. It is called "aworo". Damiso will interprete if her ajebo understand it.. . Like crowd juju done by police for naija police station.

OMG see confession!

Shebi that's what you guys call "Olopa"?

SAMBARRY:
which one be grass drink again?

I never see am before o.how does it taste like?

It tastes horrible but you could add some sweetners to it. I had mine with a slice of apple. Afterwards though.

SAMBARRY:
abeg I prefer zobo or kunu o Jared.which one be grass drink. Oyinbo say the devil you know is better thanks the Angel you don't know. What if I drink it and my stomach starts jumping in anger nko?

Hardly.

Why you wan drink Zobo? Isn't that the drink guys wey nor fit get the Iroko to stand up right - nor be their drink be that? Or are you a guy, Sambarry?

Kimoni:
Meeeee Hehehehehe not moi, Efe. Na learner I be but I have repented sha
But honestly, I agree with Ile, this place is very toxic
Maybe because I don't do bb and what's up, and FB is also rarely
Lemme listen to your solutions sha

Yimu.

But seriously babe, next time just hit the "Report To Moderator" button and follow up with an email. Don't stress yourself responding. It's never worth it.

Mindfulness:
She is what I call classy.

I also love that she is not wearing high heels in this pic.

I don't like this kind of high heels. Too crass. I prefer different ones. Classy, graceful, feminine ones.

https://thepowerofposture.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Tips-to-Wearing-High-Heels-Right-For-Beginners.jpg


I got myself a new pair of shoes today.

OMG!!!

Give her feet a couple of years and you won't recognise them. I don't like those high heels either. It's too much na. But then again, it depends. It'll work well for those in the modelling business or for pole dancers.

damiso:
So deactivation is the best bet ?

Uhhhhhhhm

Contemplating .....

Knowing how useless I am with passwords and emails I am sure creating another Monica would be too much hassle and that would mean I would remain a guest and not keep commenting like I have been doing for the past 3 hours

If I don't deactivate I need to really manage the time I spend on here.

I will start with efe technique of weekends only and am sure gradually will reduce it from there.

I didn't deliberately set out to come on here just on weekends oh.

It's impossible to log on to social networking sites at work due to firewall restrictions. And it's all closely monitored. I nor wan lose my daily bread because of Nairaland. And when I get home, I'm so knackered, I barely have time to do anything else, much less looking at another screen.

Weekends, it is and even then I always feel I waste precious time on here sef. But giving credit where it's due, this yeye site is very addictive. Read somewhere that our Oga at the top used e-juju on it. Bellong can very or dispute the claim(s).

Burntpalace:
Honestly, the reason it took me so long to deactivate was because I wasn't sure it would work. I thought I would still be hooked but I was surprised when I finally did it. I rarely checked it and didn't even miss it. When I decided to come back, I thought I would come back, say hi and go back to rarely coming on but for where? Very demonic place this NL.

Lmao!!

You're funny. But on second thoughts, I think you're right, especially with the language used on here. Sometimes it's just better to view from the sidelines before someone hits your head with a stone or frying pan. Even Kimoni's an expert with the catapult. She always aims BULLS EYE.

Na sharp shooter that girl be.

***quickly ducks a flying missle from Kimoni's kitchen window***

Kimoni:
Having such a good laugh this night

@ directly proportional - we dey solve quadratic (is it) equation on top NL matter again

@ cowboy - hmnnnn Efe, this sins you cannot confess to your resident priest **coughs** whisper it in my ears, promise I won't tell

You try.

Dem plenty. Anyone who wishes to hear them will never be the same again. Besides, one or two sessions won't be enough. And you'll need plenty of hankies as you'll come out sweating buckets...

damiso:
Me sef wan talk am..efe is confirmed ajebuyter Britico

Eh...eh..eh..abeg don't start that one again jare.

I-yam-not. How can you say I am? I speak pidgin English wella - Warri style. I know how to swallow eba/ pounded yam / fufu / starch with Ogbolo, Egusi, Banga, and / or pepper soup. I sabi wash clothes with hands and enjoy Naija jokes too.

Abeg, I'm not an Ajebor. Your own pass mine.

bellong:
Her sin "are" way too much to let go easily. Kimoni, your punishment will be like those given to witches in the old England..
And I have stripped Ile of her "Nunship"...
Efe, you just dey confirm your ajebo everyday. And NO, the gods don't deal with foreign cowries, dem no get fire...

OMG!! This high priest will not kill me! Allegation(s) denied, sir.

Mindfulness:
You look beautiful in your profile pic.

I'm telling you. Cococandy always does. Fine babe. My brother is very lucky.

damiso:
It's true na. All na green.

Will try the wheat grass thing and see how it goes.

Lol!

Don't forget to pinch your nose tight. I still haven't quite got used to it. This will be my second attempt.

Burntpalace:
Right? The time wasted is directly proportional to the uselessness of the thread.

Anyway sha, when next I disappear, you will understand.

As long as you don't deactivate.

Mindfulness:
[size=3pt]Who cares? I enjoyed talking to you like I always do.[/size]

[size=1pt]Ditto.[/size]

Kimoni:
ile wey curse pass me sef

Anyways, let's do this..

Bless me father Bellong burntpalace for I have sinned
My last confession was on the 19th of August 1993
These are my sins.
For I have ....

Lord! Reminisce....my days as a Catholic ehnnnn
It's all good

Na you sabi.

I will never confess to my local catholic priest. That man is a cowboy. This is strictly between me and my God.

IF I must do so, then it'll be at one far away parish like that where I'll never hope to see the very old priest again.

Kimoni:
Efeeeeee, ship cowries all the way from US? Across the ocean
Lol...you have briticonised finally. Na oyinbo dey behave like this o

My sister, I was desperate.

Amazon was selling 10-20 pieces for £3.00 + Wharra rip-off. I checked and it was hard. Some had openings at just one end, some didn't. Then finally on ebay, I found someone selling 260 pieces a pack for £15.00 with openings at both ends! Ah, abeg I just quickly bought 2 packs and paid sharp-sharp. Beautiful experience. Carefully packaged. Shipping didn't take longer than the promised 3-5 working days. I was one happy customer and quickly gave the top rating.

Mindfulness:
Are we derailing?

[size=1pt]***Whispers: I think so ***[/size]

Burntpalace:
Sister Burntpalace herself needs prayers! You see how easy it is to get sucked back into this time wasting venture known as nairaland? Aprokoism will not kee person in this place.

I know.

In as much as I hate to admit it, the useless threads kind of suck you in. I just feel bad about the whole shenanigans for both parties. Abeg I nor wan put mouth for matter.

cococandy:
Efe
Pls what are you going to do with a cowrie waist bead?
You couldn't possibly wear that as it would be bulky under a dress

Could do, but d'you know I used them as an incentive to lose weight? At the time I got them, I was a UK dress size 14. It took me weeks to find someone who could string them into waist beads (the crazy woman charged me £25 for each one - I nor blame her). Anyway, I asked her to fix them for a waist size 10. Had to tell her it was for my niece jare.

When they were done, I fell so much in love with them, but didn't dare try them on as I didn't want it snapping. All I could do was really diet and exercise and the closer I got, the more motivated I felt. Anyway, to answer your question, you could use them as a substitute for belts for your jeans trousers or "hot pant" shorts during the summer.

Mindfulness:
No, I was neither talking about instinct nor intuition because not everyone has a well-trained intuition and not everyone knows how to trust their gut feeling but everyone knows when something feels good and when it feels bad.

Finally, something you are not good at. I was already wondering if you are human.

Lol!

Good or bad eh? Kind of one's Ying and Yang needing to be in alignment for cosmic / spiritual balance. This is almost akin to meditating on the philosophies of life. But every person, even children instinctively know what's good and what's bad in plain black and white.

People start entertaining the greys as they get older as life isn't based on rigid, clear, defined boundaries. There are overlaps and "circumstational" situations that give rise to those...

Kimoni:
Efemenaxy, pls do you know any priest on NL? I want to go to confession this night

I forgot since that tomorrow is Sunday, Choi! I need to be in a state of grace before mass tomorrow

Burntpalace for your nun.

Bellong for your Chief High Priest.

Those two readily come to mind. That way, you've got spiritual coverage from two major angles. Christianity and our good old African traditional based beliefs. Quite comforting, isn't it.

And you were right about Bellong getting bribed with cowries. I love cowries. Seriously. I actual bought 2 packs from Ebay, shipped from the states. Almost like the real deal. Almost except they aren't alive (thank goodness) and are polished. Had them strung into waist beads. Sexy stuff.

Mindfulness:
No, learning to understand our emotional guidance system. If something doesn't feel right, it isn't right.

Then you're referring to instinct. Or one's 6^th sense. Uncanny perception of an event about to occur without any logical reasons / indicators.

Arrgghhh! I'm not good at abstract discussions abeg.

Mindfulness:
Instead of overcoming it, we should rather learn to make use of it to our advantage.

What? Being emotional?

That's like acting the part of a sissy amongst men? Biko, I'll pass. I'm too self assured to dabble in that.

cococandy:
Savour the taste ?

I'll pass. Jisike.

For now.

But somehow, methinks you might pick up on it after Junior's made an appearance. D'you know that amongst other things, it helps with anemia? I guess I'm sold on it. But I think £1.80 (single shot) or £3.50 (double shot) is a rip-off.

Mindfulness:
We are more emotional than rational most of the time, even if we don't like to confess it.

True.

But the first step to overcoming that is admittance.