₦airaland Forum

Enwhen:
U can't call him a nobody , yea, PDP allowed it and 2023 , the PDP is taking it back and They are giving it to Hon. Evelyn Oboro.... I pity those mumu killing themselves for PDP and APC

Enwhen:
On a separate or same date with other election , APC cannot win Delta... DSP Agege won with the supports of some PDP members and they were rewarded with appointments, cars, bikes... And from the main topic, I don't doubt it, because he can only won the the platform of the PDP...

Not true, Omo Agege won Evelyn hands down. PDP didn't allow anything, Oboro defeated Omo Agege in major PDP strongholds, Even Ethiope West, the LGA Ibori came from delivered to Oboro, all LGA chairmen moved mountains for Oboro, but truth is, Ibori doesn't have 100% hold on Delta Central, this is FACT.

Come 2023, i still don't see Oboro winning the likes of O'tega Emerhor, politics isn't beauty pageant, Uvwie, Ethiope West and Okpe can't make you senator, you need the full support of the entire Urhobo nation. Is she well accepted? well that's a discussion for another day.

jumper524:
End of discussion.
If Saudi supports bokoharam or terrorism of any form by now they wouldn't be friends with the United States.
Recently Saudi oil stations was attacked by terrorist,
Was it the same terrorist they sponsored?
FFK please back your claim with evidence not speculation.
If you call the likes of Iraq and Iran it's believable but Saudi, turkey and Qatar??
Man I'll urge you stop being speculative and factual..

Saudi Arabia oil facilities weren't attacked by Terrorists, but Houthi rebels who have been waging war with Saudi Arabia for some years now. Houthis is not ISIS, get your facts right.

Iraq isn't sponsoring terrorists, they are fighting terrorism, if not for Iran, ISIS would have occupied the entire nation. Iran is well known for sponsoring militants like Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, but definitely not Isis or Boko, infact they don't even cross paths.

But we all know Saudi Arabia to be the home where these extremists idea came from.

NLSavage:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon%27s_Temple
Read thoroughly. Jewish historians

When the Egyptians tell you about how great their Pharaohs were, we believe, because we can verify that claim, but same can't be said about some of these Jewish characters.

Till date no trace of Solomon's existence. THIS is FACT.

NLSavage:
historians recognized king Solomon. Not only the Bible.

Which historians? till now not any evidence of his existence has been found, no mention of his name on tablets, inscription or any pot decoration, you can do your own little research.

Nicklaus619:
I got zero time for a fvcking atheist

How did you know he is an atheist? so anyone that isn't Christian or Muslim is atheist?

Solomon's wealth was according to the Bible, but that of Mansa Musa was according to proven facts and well recorded history, not a religious book.

crackhaus:
This is very good to know, I had heard of this but still had my doubts considering the noise being made by gender equality advocates about Nigerian women not being allowed to inherit property.

I guess they made that up as usual, and the truth is women do in fact inherit properties from their parents.

Very untrue, most tribes share inheritance to women, I have seen a situation where a lady chanced her brothers and took most of their Dad's inheritance, thou she was the eldest.

crackhaus:
First of all, please list those places where married women can inherit properties.
Single unmarried daughters could be given an inheritance, but I'm not so sure about the married ones.

Is this happening to someone you know?
If so, where?

I'm interested...

In my side, we do give properties to women (married and single), It's a common thing with some of the ethnic groups in the Delta.

Now to the OP, the property belongs to her, she can decide to share, but not handing it over to any man, everything belongs to her kids anyway.

Nowenuse:
Hmm @ Efewestern. What can you say about this comment from your tribesman?

Greetings bro, judging from his post, he probably misinterpreted your message.

Like I said earlier, it will be very difficult getting majority of the minorities to give in to the idea of secession especially when you start involving major ethnic groups, they'd think they will be subdued, reason I have always maintained a different banner for everyone.

Now we have two issues, majority still believe in the Nigerian project, even myself to some extent, some believe with the right leadership Nigeria can be great, that's the category this young man falls into.

dermmy:
That's it. Let's see if America would sanction India. I still don't understand their problem because India is not a NATO member that was the excuse they gave Turkey. The truth is America fears this S-400

How many countries can they sanction at once? Saudi Arabia is also eyeing S-400. Truth is, they don't want others to have S-400 because of its capabilities, they know for sure it's far superior to the much overrated and overpriced patriot air defense system.

Everyone just running to have s-400, no doubt, Russia is the king when it comes to anti-aircraft missile system.

Nowenuse:
You see, in this life, some drastic changes among a population of people happen generation after generation. It just cannot happen at once.

There was a time our people used to answer ridiculous native Hausa names that even majority of the Hausas themselves do not answer. You hear names like Mainoma, Madaki, Bature, Auta, Danfulani, Maimagani, Danjuma. These are still family names of many of our people till date.

That era left and people started answering Hausa Bible names like Ibrahim, Yohanna, Yusuf, Irmiya, Ishaya, Hauwa, Hannatu, Nuhu e.t.c
This era has also gone now and you can hardly find modern parents giving such names to their children again. It is either a native name or a pure English/Bible name.

I and my siblings were born in the 90s and my father gave us those silly names like Ibrahim, Alhamdu e.t.c . Thank God my mother instantly changed them to native/English names and hers stuck.

Most of our elderly and some middle aged people were brought up all their life to believe that Arewa is their destiny, identity and personality. Some of these people, no matter the injustice meted on our people, their minds just cannot be able to comprehend a distinct identity and struggle for themselves.
To them, they will try to give every excuse for the stupidity of Hausa fulani people. Unfortunately, my father falls under this category. My mother used to be in between until I fully convinced (converted) her

The good part is that 95% of this current youth generation (below 40 years of age) have no affinity, likeness or allegiance to anything Arewa (except for the muslim minority in our midst).

A good percentage of the middle-aged and even elderly have reversed their decisions.

Hence a drastic change in mentality and agitation has already begun. See an elder like Bitrus Pogu, a man from Southern Borno is the current president of middlebelt forum and at the forefront of championing unity between the South and Middlebelt.

Some of us are now even becoming anti-Nigeria and pro secession. You can see that Kogi guy's comment above.
We had a meeting recently and I was shocked to see people from even Adamawa in our group being pro-secession and even pro-IPOB
It's just a matter of time.

Didn't you see John Danfulani, a southern Kaduna leader go to meet Nnamdi Kanu to tell him that his people will join Biafra? Nnamdi Kanu was even planning a rally in Kaduna before the python dance. Not one Southern Kaduna person came out to speak against John Danfulani.... If it was the past, could such a thing ever happen?

@Your last paragraph. Yes, Hausa fulanis behave meek outside their zones, only when they are in a minority. As soon as they get numbers, they show their true colour.
Can't you see what they have been doing in Lagos? The Mile 2 crisis 2 years ago?

The incidence of this lady in this thread happened in Lagos and not anywhere close to the north.

@bolded, this i won't agree with you, I once met an Abuja native (Christian) who was proud of her alliance to the core north, in fact she told me she was Hausa at first, when I doubted her, she then revealed her ethnic group, she was from Gbagyi.

Even online, I have seen youths from middle belt defend the core north, there is one Benue man on this forum that hardly defends his people but is quick to attack any one who attacks the core north.

So far I haven't seen any desire from majority of you to stand alone, I may be wrong.

Nowenuse:
Exactly. Only a Hausa fulani man will never build a house or invest outside the north. Other tribes will invest anywhere they live and earn a living.

Unfortunately, this evil and satanic mentality of theirs has rubbed off on some of our people through contact. My father has this mentality, but my mother disagreed and rejected it. She bought a land here in Uvwie and develop it with her own money. It is such a crazy thing to live and earn a living in a place for over 20 years and you leave with your bags and all the money you made back to your homestate without any positive contribution to that place.
That shows you do not actually believe in one Nigeria deep down in your heart.

When Hausas come to your place, they do not integrate, interract and socialize with the natives. They live on their own in their secluded quarters.
I and my family members communicate exclusively with pidgin english at home (not that it is something to take great pride in, cos Nigerians are supposed to value native languages more). However, this shows how much my family integrated with Warri natives. People don't even believe I am from Plateau state when I am in Jos cos I am Warri through and through in accent and expression.
Half of my family members are married to Urhobos, Edos e.t.c

You can never find this attribute among Hausa fulani people even though they have lived 3 generations outside the north. Rather they will seek to impose their own values in the place they migrated to.

How can we ever achieve a united country based on equity with such kind of people?

It will shock you to know that some of those Hausa men you see changing dollars and dealing in foodstuffs transportation from the north are actually millionaires. Some are very rich. However, they will continue to live in those Hausa quarters or rented squalors in the south for eternity, while they build and own mansions in their homestates.
The mentality of these people beat me.

It's so unfortunate that most Southerners do not see through these people.

It's sad some of your people are being influenced by them, I think proximity and religion is playing a big role in here, I once told you sometime back that most of you are not doing enough to break free from the influence of the core north, some of you still go on with the Arewa tag, like WTF?

You know these guys behave meek when they are outside their zone, hence it is always difficult seeing through their intentions.

Nowenuse:
Exactly. Nigeria can never progress as a nation with the Hausa fulani core-north. This is why I usually hiss and ignore whenever I hear people singing the national anthem, celebrating independence and even praying for Nigeria.

A complete waste. We pray when we are not doing the right thing.

It seems like these Hausa bikers were not allowed into Udu axis cos I notice Udu bikemen are mostly indigenous, unlike that Shaguolo (Ekpan)/Ubeji/Jeddo axis?

Thank God bikes were banned in most Nigerian city centers.

In Udu 90% of the bikemen are natives, but from Ughoton down to Ughokodo and Shaguolo, majority are northerners, you need to see how they drive, even the keke business that is sustaining our youths, because of the dead economy of the overhyped city is still being shared with these guys.

Worst is, they don't bring development into the town, they ship in thousands monthly from God knows where, land they won't buy, house they won't build, flats they won't rent, they are not just adding anything positive into the society. Their mentality is something else.

I just have to agree these guys are just different from the rest of us, they don't even believe in the Nigeria project like some of us do.

Nowenuse come and see something.

Ishilove:
I was advised by the doctor that for peace to reign, I should just treat him and take it as a sacrifice for the 'Mber' month. He charged me 10k, but I was to give the bike people 2k out of the money.

I went to the ATM, withdrew the amount and gave everything to the Doctor. God forbid i dignify those people by addressing them directly.

I collected the receipt and walked out of the clinic. On my way out, i favoured them with the most disdainful look I could muster, hissed at them and walked away.

My heart is full of anger, but I know, Dear Reader, that you know exactly what will come out of my fingers if I really give vent to what is in my mind about these northern bikers that flood Lagos on a weekly basis in cover body trucks, armed with nothing but the clothes on their backs and Yamaha bikes. They have this herd mentality that begs the question-"even if you no go school, shey you no get common sense?" It is still this same mentality that causes religious lynching in the northern part of the country. A rumour goes round and without any kind of investigation, they pounce on the hapless victim.

Let me stop here before I run afoul of Rule 2, but l will drop a word of caution to my fellow Nairalanders of northern extraction- MAKE A CHANGE IN YOUR INDIGENOUS STATES. What I witnessed today made me understand for the first time why a lot of northerners are very vulnerable to extremist ideologies and conditioning. Many of these people have been so completely starved of even the most basic enlightenment that it seems like they are now incapable of rational thought, and as a result act like the Missing Link.

Perhaps basic education will curtail the menace and complete nuisance so many of them constitute when they migrate to other states.

I was angry reading your story, worst is,some aren't even Nigerians, Sad we share the same country with these lots. I also noticed how they flooded Warri of late with bikes.

Who else noticed they don't bring development to anywhere they migrate to?

hammerD:
WHO TOLD U THAT OUR INTEREST DIFFER?


IN WAT WAYS HAVE IGBO BEEN A THREAT TO YOUR EXISTENCE TILL DATE?


U LIVE ON IGBO LAND IN ASABA IN HUGE NUMBERS AND HAVE EVEN MARRIED SOME OF OUR FINEST WOMEN, SO WAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?


U TALK ABOUT EFIK AND IBIBIO BUT THOSE PEOPLE DONT KNOW URHOBO, THEY ONLY KNOW IGBO.

Bro drink a glass of water and relax, we can not communicate if you keep on with this kind of attitude.

Yes our interests differ, having different interests doesn't make us enemy, we can find a common ground, but you don't want to hear any of that.

So because we have some Urhobos living in Asaba we shouldn't have our own independent thoughts? Were we not living at our own space before the British came to mess things up? what's wrong with me saying every one should stick to who they feel comfortable with?

Nowenuse:
@Efewestern where is Fratermat.hy? Truly I have not heard of him in such a long while. I will like to know his opinions on a subject as this.

And just like this guy is saying above. Truly, a Niger deltan country will need very very serious work and concerted efforts to make it a peaceful one. Especially the western axis where you have the Edos, Urhobos, Ijaws & Itsekiri. How easily do you think these tribes can live in one nation in peace?

Mathy do come around, maybe he is busy.

We can live together, we lived together for ages, truth is, most of us from this axis have a lot in common, we learnt a lot from the previous crisis, so no one is even ready to fight anyone, highest we can do is throw punches on the front pages of newspaper.

We just need to respect boundaries and we will be okay.

cc: MelesZenawi

hammerD:
U AND FRATERMATH.Y NEVER MAKE SENSE.

URHOBO DAT LIVE IN ASABA, AND SHARE STATE WITH IGBO, WHILST FIGHTING IJAW AND ITSEKIRI IN AN UNENDING WAR ARE ONE NATION WITH IJAW AND ITSEKIRI.

WE HAVE NOT EVEN ADD, IBIBIO, EFIK AFEMAI AND MORE THAT ARE IN THIS SS.

U BOYS ARE VERY FUNNY. I WISH U GROW UP A LITTLE THOUGH.

AM NOT BEGGING TO SHARE COUNTRY WITH U, BUT FOR U TO KNOW, U HAVE NO WHERE TO RUN TO.

I don't need to make sense to you because our interests differs. There is no unending war between anybody, it's normal to have communal crisis, it happens everywhere even in East and West.

The beauty of having Ibibio and Efik around is the assurance than no one can suppress anyone, we are doing this for the future.

Nowenuse:
You are making serious sense.
It is true that it will be very difficult to convince most Niger deltans or middlebelters to die for the name Biafra. E nor go easy.
These people will be better off dying for a name they easily resonate with, like Niger delta republic or Middlebelt republic.

The problem with the case of Yugoslavia is that everyone seceding focused on their own nations and Serbia (the agressor) was left to pounce on the weaker ones in their bid for expansion.
Serbia descended on Bosnia & Kosovo and dealt with them seriously. If not for international help from NATO, a worse genocide than what the world witnessed would have happened. And after capturing Bosnia & Kosovo, they would have gone for Croatia & Slovenia next. However, imagine if the other smaller nations were united under one banner. There was no way Serbia would have had the liver to try what they did in Bosnia & Kosovo.

So, you see the great flaws of secession under separate banners?

There was no way Serb-controlled Yugoslav People's Army could have gone for Croatia and Slovenia, that would mean dragging Germany and others fully into the conflict, let's not forget that Croatia at that time was dealing heavily with Serbs minority who were opposing their freedom.

Well I agree that there are great flaws of secession under separate banners, but it's the best way to go.

Nowenuse:
I think we have to be united to fight under one banner, otherwise Nigeria will never take us seriously.
The core-north is so powerful today that only one region cannot take them on. Even 2 regions combined can hardly do it.

It is better we get independence and later fight among ourselves than for us to remain in this yoke called Nigeria while the caliphate feeds on each one of us and grow stronger.

Most southerners don't know that if the core-north succeeds in taking over the middlebelt, then Nigeria is finished. In such a scenario, it will take only a water-tight unity of the entire south to defeat the caliphate. This unity of the south we know can never happen, not when Yoruba muslims are there to be manipulated by the core-north.

We can never end up like South Sudan because unlike South Sudan, the majority of us (SE, SS & MB) are educated and we value human life and progress.
We will always sit down across a round table to discuss our coexistence.

I know most SS minorities are afraid of possible Igbo domination that's why you people prefer one Nigeria to Biafra. However, as long as over 30 million christian middlebelters & northern minorities are concerned and directly involved, an Igbo domination can never happen.

I use to be an advocate for restructuring, but I have seen that this will never work.

Restructuring based on our own terms and conditions can only work when we agitate for seccession and the core-north begs us to dialogue. Then we can put forward restructuring based on our terms as a solution to peace. Otherwise if we combine to agitate for restructuring, they will only give us an option to restructuring based on their terms when they feel our pressure.
It's just like a person going to the moon aiming for the Sun so that should in case he does not get to the sun, he will land on the moon.

For you to have a united fight under one banner; you need to give the people a reason to bleed, how well do you want an Urhobo man to die for a cause he is not even sure his children will benefit from?

We all can have a single goal (secession) but under our various banners, like in the case of Yugoslavia.

It is wrong for you to think that the population of the minorities can outmatch a single ethnic group, that's when you will understand the game of Divide and rule.

Who would have thought the same Jews who cried of oppression some years back are the ones stealing land and bombing kids in the occupied territory today.

Nowenuse on the issue of secession, you said everyone should go come together and fight their way out as one people, with laid down terms of 3 seperate nations.

Now my question is, why not everyone fight for their separate nations now and save everyone the stress of splitting later, things might not go as planned, and there you have another form of agitation, thereby repeating the circle.

I sincerely do not see how your model will work out, if it's political union, restructuring for example, then you can count on a united front.

Sanchez01:
Oniovo, the kind of things I read on here, no doubt, can make the devil mad! Dude is not even married and he keeps talking shanties. He forgot that in the process of raising a family, tendencies are that priorities and needs will multiply, particularly when the kids start coming.

There are hundreds of thousands of entrepreneurs who, though invested in their businesses, ended up wailing and gnashing their teeth. The entrepreneurial life is difficult and not easy as many see it and several factors will play out that will destroy or threaten one's business.

These guys haven't seen life yet they counsel others from an angle they know nothing about.

I hope he doesn't learn the hard way, running a business in a country such as this is not something one can bank on, so many entrepreneurs who invested in their businesses end up running at lost.

Talking about rent, what happens the year he is unable to meet up? does he know the pressure that comes with issues such as this?

What he doesn't understand is that, when you are on project, money you usually would have spent on frivolities, will be channelled into proper use. Most people who own houses don't even have millions in their account, every month after settling family needs pour in some little cash into the project.

Sanchez01:
So many of your angles are wrong!

Rent accounts for over 50% of the problems in marriage. In a country where the average Joe barely earns 100k monthly, breaking the barrier of rent is like winning a jackpot. And if you think becoming a broke landlord is insane, wait till you get overwhelmed by financial demands in another man's house while your rent due date edge closer.

Most people think venturing into a business automatically translates to steady inflow. What you don't realize is that mishaps are very common with personal businesses and just one would have been a problem in another man's house as you'd need to secure loans or borrow to temporarily stay afloat. Typical business folks who mostly survive this ugly phase often go as far as selling other stuff they own to stay alive in business. It is not the same with people who don't have other money raising properties to fall back to when things get ugly.

My family stopped paying rent in Lagos since 1999 and growing up, there were moments when money would be scarce but the single thought of not worrying about paying rent eased so many things.

Plus while you brazenly suggest they sell off the property, you failed to ask what state it is situated, which should have been your major concern before going further to talk about whether or not the move was wise.

I think we all should learn to put 'just my opinion' after suggesting some things in this section so that we don't end up destroying lives in the name of counseling. Opinions are opinions and some, if not most are somewhat dangerous.

As unwise as you think the move is, I'd advise you invest your last penny in a landed property and conveniently add swag to soaking your Cassava flakes in your own property, after developing it to a reasonable extent.

Oniovo I wanted to counter him, but I saw your comment, couldn't have said it better. Dude is delusional, to think he got that many likes shows people never learn.

He keeps talking of business as if their is 100% guarantee that the business won't collapse, to even think he advised them to sell their project says a lot about him.

dermmy:
If you want answers to your question you have to dump that bigotry and look at the Israeli-Palestinian issue from historical and intellectual perspective. The international arena is governed by international law and not bible/Quran. I would have answered your question but from what you put up there i can see you are one of those who would engage people with verses in the bible if you were given real intellectual facts.

I know you want answers but you've answered it your own way. Please do yourself a favour by reading carry out a thorough research and you'll get answers to your questions. Peace man

Bro you have time o, anyone who justifies Isreal activities in the occupied territory is no different from those who support Jihadists, a little research will reveal a lot to that young man that Isreal is the wrong one here.

Evil is evil.

pazienza:
Benin City has always been an administrative headquarters of multi ethnic entities. Be it multiethnic Bini empire, Midwest, Bendel and now multiethnic Edo state.

You claimed other ethnic groups in the Delta emigrated to Benin because it was an administrative centre, how well do you explain the heavy Urhobo presence in faraway Okitipupa even though it was never an administrative headquarters of the Urhobos?

You are still not getting it, the reason people emigrate to other places is not because of anything but for economic reasons, administrative centre is far from it.

pazienza:
Nowenuse :
...
Benin was capital of multi ethnic Bendel state. Many Anioma, Urhobo, Itsekiri, whose fathers were civil servants in Bini city capital of old Bendel, stayed behind. It's akin to the high population of Anambra and Ebonyi,people in Enugu state, because it was once the capital of old Anambra state. That's how my own parents came to Enugu as well. Ilorin is a capital of multi ethnic Kwara state, with Fulani, Yoruba, Nupe, etc, all present.
Maiduguri was once the capital of an old state comprising Adamawa, Taraba, etc. Those states have many minority states.
Jos the tin city attracted many Igbo and other southern groups to the town. After the boom of Tin, many of these families stayed behind. Also old Plateau with Jos as capital included states like Nasarawa, so many groups from there are still there.
...

I don't get you, Benin had always been cosmopolitan even before Midwest was formed, the Urhobos, Itsekiris etc had emigrated to Benin as far as 1900 doing business with the locals.

Places like Okitipupa, Ilesha and Oshogbo were also flooded by the Urhobos during that period, it has nothing to do with administrative centre like you just painted.

Nowenuse:
Bro, if you count all the group of people who identify as Ijaw, all the way from the Andonis of Akwa Ibom & Rivers to the Degemas, kalabaris, Okrikas & Ibanis of Rivers state to the entirety of Bayelsa state (besides Ofoni town), then all the Ijaws in Delta south, then those in Edo state with up to 10 towns, then the entirety of Ese-Odo LGA in Ondo state.
Abeg, dem plenty pass Urhobo.
Ijaws dominate more than 20 LGAs in Nigeria and are minorities in like 8 LGAs, haba. No comparison.
Even if you add Isokos to Urhobo, it still won't meet up Ijaw.
Only Tivs, Kanuris & Ibibio-Efiks combined can square up or outnumber Ijaws in Nigeria.

However, Urhobo & Isokos combined should be the 6th or 7th largest ethnic group in Nigeria after the big 3, then Tivs, Kanuris and maybe (Ibibio if they are combined).
However you people combined will be clearly more than Igalas, Idomas, Nupes, Gbagyis, Ebiras, Binis, Esans and Ibibios (if u don't add Efiks & others).

Ijaws wouldn't have been so much, but during the politics of Old Rivers state where all the Lowland peoples were classified as Ijaws, it led to the swallowing up of other lowland tribes into Ijaw identity.
Are you aware that Ijaws are even trying to swallow up the Igbo speaking Ndoki people in Rivers state? Not linguistically of course, but politically.

The reason why I'm debating this is because Ijaw land isnt densely populated unlike Urhobo land, I get your points thou.

Nowenuse:
That is why I used the word AS OF TODAY.

Urhbobos used to migrate a lot in the past, even as far as Liberia, there was a huge Urhobo community there.
However, most of them started coming back home to Delta from the 80s as their cities started to boom with oil money. I am from Jos and Urhobos used to be the largest non indigenous minority in Jos from the South.

Igala land being an underdeveloped area without a large nearby city for a long time saw the emigration of Igalas all over the north and East. Igalas in the north & Abuja are like 700k or more.
Since Abuja came close to them, they have invaded Abuja and I'm sure they are the largest non indigenous minority in Abuja now, although Idomas can give them a hot chase for this.

Urhobos living outside Urhobo land are not more than 500k.
If you doubt this, go to the largest Urhobo & Igala facebook groups. Check like 10 Urhobo & Igala profiles in those groups, you will see that like 8 in 10 Urhobos live in Delta state, while for Igala, it would be like 3-4 in 10 who live in Kogi.

Mind you, Urhobos are not much in PH. Outside, Benin, Ajegunle & Jos. Hardly do you see Urhobos outside Delta.
Where I lived in Benin close to Uniben (Ekosodin), Igalas were the largest immigrant group there outside the student population.

Sad I came in late, but your stat about the Urhobos is wrong, Urhobo still migrate heavily, mostly westward, my grandfather grew up in Okitipkupa in Ondo state, till date we still have huge Urhobos in Ondo, Benin is like our home land, there's no way Igala will have more population than us.

Urhobos are also much in PH, Let's not even talk about Lagos and Ogun, these states till date have a large population of Urhobos. In SW no minority can displace the Urhobos, it's a well known fact.

At bolded, not true.

Nice contributions from scholes0.

Nowenuse:
Yes you are right. Kanuris could be more than Tivs.
Please, there are no Ibibios in Cross River state. It is the Efiks that are in Cross river.
If Ibibios are on their own, they would be at the level of Igalas, Idomas, Urhobos, Bini BUT if they are merged with the Efiks, Annang & Oro, they would be at the level of Tivs & Kanuris.

For me, I think Igalas, Gbagyis, Nupes, Urhobos, Idomas, Binis and even Esans & Ebiras are around 2-3 million people each.
While Ibibio-Efiks, Kanuris, Ijaws & Tivs are around 5 million people each.

Do you really believe Ijaw has more population than Urhobo?

nwabekeyi:
What GDP are you talking about? GDP doesn’t represent how prosperous a nationis, what indicates that a nation is ok is Per capita GDP.

Our GDP became useless with our humongous population and having a corrupt government makes sure that the GDP doesn’t really reflect in the life of an average Nigerian.

Per capital, Nigeria is still ahead of Rwanda. I stated that on my OP.

Carlyscales:
[s]u didn't read that Rwanda just signed a $1T nuclear deal in Sochi with Rosatom, [/s] while we are pleading that our govt should try to re-negotiate with the original (Russian) builders of ajeokuta steel mill.

Rwanda air has more revenue and assets than all local airlines in Nigeria combined. Yet Kagame does not have a presidential jet, meanwhile your president has a fleet of 10. And we don't even a single aircraft carrier.

Rwanda called bluff of Trump sanctions to impose high tarrifs on US okirika in order for their local textile industry to develop. We busy closing border for rice so that local grain farmers in the north can sell their produce.

Rwanda just commissioned their Volkswagen manufacturing plant ( second in Africa) and made Nigeria to sign d African Trade Agreement in order to sell those cars in Nigeria. Yet our economy and corruption couldn't allow the common volks assembly factory in Lagos plant to thrive.

Rwanda just rolled out the first full locally made smart phone. Yet our president cannot even use for inauguration a made/assembled in Nigerian car. To showcase us to the visiting African leaders for business.

Rwanda is very becoming the next World power from Africa period.

$1TR deal really? don't tell me you believe in that lie, Russia's total trade with all East African countries in 2018 was $500m, trade with Rwanda was just $30m and did i mention also that Russia sends aids worth millions of dollars to Rwanda yearly? while Rwanda had a nuclear deal with Russia, it's no where close to $1T.

Nigeria also manufactures cars, Innoson and Pro-force are producing made in Nigeria vehicles, so what's the hype about Volkswagen setting up a manufacturing plant in Rwanda? FG has been patronising our local cars for some time now, last month, Anambra state government ordered several cars from Innoson, Pro-Force also sold some Armoured vehicles to UN peace keeping force in Africa.

Made Nigeria to sign free trade agreement? lol, those guys were pleading with us last year to sign the deal which I don't even think Nigeria can fulfil, we are still battling with the Ecowas free trade agreement.

Don't we have made in Nigeria smartphones? AfriONe produces their phones here in Nigeria, Lagos precisely, and so far they are being patronized by government agencies and Nigerians.

I'm not delusional to think Nigeria is the best country in Africa, I acknowledge the fact that some African countries are light years ahead of us, but certainly not Rwanda, They can't even stand at par with Lagos or Anambra.

Austine1212:
No argument

SA is way betterr

Ask nigerians living in SA they will tell you, simple

Yes I know, I acknowledge the fact that SA is light years ahead of us, but Rwanda? nope I don't believe that.