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She'll live to regret her mentality! The rich and financially balanced guy could become a pauper tomorrow and if he's Dangote there are things that the fattest bank account just can't afford...in the end she'll find that lack in wealth is more terrible than lack itself...Bro, move on! She's not worthy of you. Bear the loss, endure the pain, tread on and the LORD'll be your help...and remember VASHTI must go for an ESTHER to show up...

Train up your child in the way that he/she should go and when he/she is old he/she will not depart from it...Teach your child hardwork, sincerity, honesty, love, sacrifice, mercy, wisdom, panache and excellence and you may not need to ask that question...

That child may, as a child and with the heart of a child, answer your question by asserting that she'll be independent and bring glory to her family and name but if you fail to train that child she'll grow up to be vixen (whether she goes to church or not is irrelevant) who hunts for men with more money...

Bro I love your care for the ignorant and the unlearned...but I dare say, that a man is better self-employed than working for someone who would count it nothing to exalt himself/herself to the GOD class! You already made your point known on the relevance of skill and competence over financial rewards and your valuation of your past clients which i expect to be nothing short of the truth, if I am to take your word for it, should not present to the GM an impression of someone who would portray a negative image of the firm in the nearer future...The labour market is always in excess supply and that is why these folks can talk and do whatever they like...in countries like the US where technical expertise is almost always in excess demand, the employee is often treated nobly though they may have ignoble traits...

This is a sign of things to come...if our institutions are not reformed to become sculptors of the mind they'll continue to be a graveyard of purity, sanctity, ingenuity and veracity!

oloyede252:
which kind of advice is this.you dont know if the man is wicked or cheating on her.and also dnt you knw the woman must be suffering from phobia of being pregnant maybe because the man is wicked that why she didnt tell him.you always blame women for everything.its her body she can do whatever she want with it..

...my apologies but i suggest you seek the services of a psychiatrist, you urgently need it! Nothing justifies making and killing unborn babies...If her actions are justifiable, then assassins, armed robbers and even kleptomaniac politicians have their evils justifiable!

Philpham:
Shut up man, stop blaming your wife. You are impotent.

...you need to stop posting stuff early in the morning...starving your brain of sleep disorients it and makes you think, speak and type ADVANCED CRAP!!!

Sir, that woman can kill you at any time...If she can murder innocent babies just to maintain her career, she can as well kill you to get what she wants if you stand in her way! Advice 1. Get out of that house or kick her out first and foremost but please no divorce! Advice 2., Involve a witness which could be a pastor or a much elderly person in the extended family who will be discreet about this, they can blow stuff up! Advice 3. Your wife is POSSESSED! She's filled with a mamonic spirit...You need to arrange to drag her to the deliverance ground! Advice 4. I reiterate the advice 1, stop sleeping under the same roof with her, whatever spirit controlling her can direct her to kill you on the spot now that you have known the evil that she is perpetrating! Stay away from her until she's back to her normal God given senses...

Emmahunk:
I still maintain that this transfersshould not be politicized. Father Mbaka has done quite a lot at Christ the King Parish, I think God wants to use him at his new Parish.
Believe me, if the transfer was not ordained, it would not have come to be.
APC should please let Father Mbaka be.

if the transfer was to be would a man of God, that hears from God and knows the might and power of God DARE COMPLAIN...He would not, rather he'll accept it with glee. But i trust my FATHER UP THERE, He can turn a dark situation to a glorious situation just to spite the FOOLS WHO PROFESS TO BE WISE!

emmasege:
You owe no one or political group any explanation if you must preserve the old tradition of discipline in the church. It's unethical of first generation church leaders to be apolitical as Mbaka. I remember Cardinal Onaiyekan saying of Mbaka sometime last year that if he was Mbaka's Bishop, he would have closed down his church long ago.

I hate to see Pastors campaigning in words or in body language, for any political group.

A man speaks the truth and next thing people will say is that he is CAMPAIGNING FOR A PARTY! So Cardinal Onaiyekan is the LORD GOD, He is the GROOM of the CHURCH abi, powerful enough to close down the place where the BRIDE OF CHRIST is fed and nourished...No wonder the Catholic is as LIFELESS as it is...When the dead lead the dead they will both end in the grave...

tranxo:
The essence of priesthood is saving souls and not erecting structures. A parish with gigantic structures, and docile congregation is a small church. Nobody can equate with Jesus but if we claim to emulate Him, then people should truly see MOST of His character in us.

In Christianity, ALL are equal before God, because ALL have sinned and fallen short of His Glory.

Emene is densely populated. He is in a better environment to win souls for God.

Bro, this is a spiritual topic, not a carnal one.

I can tell you that the authority of the Catholic are afraid of the Fr's ascension to greater realms of power...do you know the amount of spiritual investment required to raise a church from a lifeless state to one that scares demons, delivers the captive and saves the lost? If the Catholic authority really appreciate the growth of the work of God in the life of the Rev Fr they would have worked out modalities for the expansion of the Adoration Ministry from where it started...the most annoying thing that indicted the so called Mr Madu is asserting that the ministry IS A PRIVATE MINISTRY...What NONSENSE! Because the ministry is growing by leaps and bounds but their is lifeless and they cannot pay the requisite price which the likes of Fr Mbaka paid to get to where he is today...

toggy:
"I am going to suffer and suffer; I know that. I’m going to suffer because I have no place to put my head. I am going to suffer because I have no place to keep the Adoration Ministry’s assets. I know I’m going to suffer.”


i can't believe this statement is coming from a priest! i don't even understand him... you are going to suffer? ¹ you have forgotten that you are in the catholic church, and the catholic church made you what you are today. your ministry, and your person. The church is not your own. your loyalty should totally be for the church and please don't personalize things because you are a priest in the catholic church, the church belongs to the faithful you are just a shepherd in the vineyard. As a matter of fact wherever you are posted, it is a privileged to extend your missionary work for the growth of the church and the nation. so why are you saying you will suffer.. Remember a priest has been in your new location he is also a human being like you. if you have the mind to suffer. God and suffer, after all, Jesus suffer death and was buried because of my sin and yours. Father, please remember you are a priest! thanks.

WHAT NONSENSE...I have been hearing NONSENSE IN MY LIFE this one vastly makes the others I have heard very sensible...You dare say the church made a priest who he is? So without the church the priest will never be? The Catholic finally has a priest capable of drawing power from the throne room of God and you are here mouthing off crap about the church making him who he is! Where other parishes are lifeless agglomeration of persons with divergent interests, this man paid the price, rose through the ranks and brought the might and power of God to the Catholic church and yet they claim that his ministry is private ministry...What blasphemy!!!

Well I am not surprised! Let them kick him out...If he branches out of the Catholic it would be for good! He'll draw out thousands upon thousands because people today are not looking for a 6 o clock mass where demons are dancing makosa and shoki in people's life rather people are looking for the DEMONSTRATION OF SPIRIT AND POWER (1Corinthians 2:4) and Fr Mbaka has got the stuff...

PhockPhockMan:
The Catholic Church on Monday clarified the recent transfer of Father Ejike Mbaka, saying the controversial priest was merely being sent to where he would be more useful to the church.
In its first reaction since the controversy over the transfer broke, the church church said the posting was not meant to be punitive.
In an exclusive interview with PREMIUM TIMES Monday, the Secretary-General of the Catholic Secretar‎iat of Nigeria, Reverend Father Ralph Madu said transfer of priests within the catholic church is a “normal church procedure.”
“Mbaka’s own is not an exception,” Mr. Madu said. ¹ “The Bishop has the right to post any priest wherever he feels his service would be more useful to the church.”
Public criticisms had greeted the Enugu Diocese’s recent decision to transfer Mr. Mbaka out of Christ the King Parish‎, GRA, where he had served for over a decade and had established a popular prayer ministry, the Adoration Prayer Ministry.
Mr. Mbaka is to resume immediately at his new post at the Our Lady Parish, Emene...
“If he (Mbaka) says it’s a punishment, then it’s open for further investigation. Posting is a regular thing, a priest can be transferred after two, three, four, or more years, ² it depends on the discretion of the Bishop.
³ “That ministry (Adoration Ministry) is his private ministry, it does not belong to the church. Overseeing a parish is a full time job. Overseeing a ministry is a bigger task. If the church decides to take him somewhere where he’ll have more time to carry out his ministry, how is it punitive? That should not be the language.”
⁴ Mr. Madu said Mr. Mbaka had done things that were unacceptable to the church in the past but received no punishments for them. “He is supposed to be a missionary,” Mr. Madu said. ⁵ “What if the Bishop had closed down the ministry‎, which is within his power to do? Sometimes, transfers can be for the good of the priest as something can be going wrong which he might not be aware of. ⁶ The Bishop is free to move any priest at any time, it is his prerogative.”

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/197788-exclusive-transferred-father-mbaka-catholic-church.html

1. Wow, the Bishop has the right...Eeerrrmmm last time i checked it was the Spirit of God that had that right! (Acts 13:2) The Bishop has taken the place of the Holy Ghost and has now become the person with the right to direct and re-direct the ministry.

2. What! The Bishop's discretion? Wait so the Catholic ministry is subject to the whims and caprice of one man...Outstanding!!!

3. Chai!!! A ministry that has rescued thousands, proven the might of the LORD GOD, set the darkness to flight and been a succor to the weak is PRIVATE MINISTRY AND DOES NOT BELONG TO THE CHURCH...Then what is the church, the BISHOP'S PRIVATE PROPERTY?

4. Wait o!!!!, If a person errs, is he not to be punished? If the Father had erred then why raise it now as a means of blackmail. Why wasn't punitive measures advanced against him then? Did Mr Madu ordain Fr Mbaka? Did Mr Madu call Fr Mbaka into the ministry to be able to determine what the Fr should be or should not have been?

5. Wow!!! This is reminiscent of the Catholics of old! Killing those who attempted to spread the gospel by writing them in foreign languages (Tyndale was a martyr like this) and deciding that it is crime for anyone to study the scriptures other than the priest! So now the Bishop has the right and power to CLOSE DOWN A WHOLE MINISTRY!!! WOOOOOOOW!!!

6. The choice of words, PREROGATIVE, RIGHT, POWER and DISCRETION all sum up that the Bishop must be in the place of God himself!

Sadly this is the case in many of our so called churches...may the GROOM, who is witnessing all of these happening to his BRIDE, be merciful to his REMNANT and help them stand in sad times like this!

Angelberry:
You should be in your late 30's, pls grow up

you are an angel and your type of angel doesn't tweet...but your type of angel comments on nairaland.com...kini iyato! You need to grow up too!!!

oh common dudes let's be sincere for once...the lady is pretty! Nice eyes and lips!! Created fearfully and wonderfully by the always creative Most High GOD...I rate the pic 6/10 and that's because I cannot access the aesthetic value of the rest of her frame cos the pic barely shows her torso...

poseidon12:
Yea right. You didn't date him for money? I guess you dated him for love. You think we were all born yesterday?

mehn this dude nailed it simply and perfectly...anybody with a functional brain should get the message instantly!

Kay17:
Narratives can be entrapping especially with what we call love. The man following the narrative, chases the girl and uses his "swag" and masculine charm, gifts and persistence to seduce the girl. The girl in response, falls in love. This narrative is found in all medium of culture -- movies, romance magazines and even moonlight tales

But this narrative is not always in touch with reality. The guy's pains will be from a sense of inadequacy. The girl also feels guilty for vying off her role in the narrative.

I feel sympathy for both.

...his pains would be from a false sense of inadequacy...due to the vagaries of the imaginations of a lady whose hedonistic needs are always in a state of flux! That man may be adequate, may have all it takes at least at the minimum but the odd desires of a lady could infer albeit falsely the inadequacy of a rather adequate man!

draftmaster:
Save a husband's marriage by advising him maturely






http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2016/01/i-made-a-horrible-mistake-with-my-lovely-wife/

Grant her request! Give her the needed space...Play your role as a man, endure the fallout of this sad event, listen more and talk less, love her even when she fails to love you in return...soon it would dawn on her that it could have been the other way around and she'll realize her part in the sad event and make up fully with you! Life goes in cycles. Soon it would be her turn to hurt you as you did to her and she'll realize that FORGIVENESS is an inevitable part of all bonds of love...

And one more thing: FAST and PRAY that your marriage does not enter into temptation!

Helloflife:
We started dating last year november.
We haven't gone intimate yet and he doesn't even pressurize me.
Truth is, i don't love him, and i think i made a mistake accepting to date him.
I've found out we have literally nothing in common.

Throughout our relationship, i've never said the word "i love you" to him.
He called last night and asked me if i love him and i couldn't give a direct answer cause i didn't want him to get hurt.

Dear romancelanders, whats the best way i could tell him how i really feel?

you are the definition of WICKEDNESS...you agreed to date him at the start and you did not realize that you did not love him then. Now after a while it dawns on you that you did not love him. I wonder what love means nowadays! So your love is variable, evolutionary and unstable. Your love changes with times and season. It is ladies like you that encourage the bad tendencies in men, "to hit and run"!

My advice, the same way you agreed to date him, you should also let him know his fate. The same way you boldly accepted his offer, boldly tell him to his face that you do not need him. It is better you hurt him a little now that his bond with you is relatively weak that cheat of him eventually when his bond with you is strongest and you end up making a monster out of a good guy! A monster that many ladies like you come here to complain about...

Bevista:
There you have it. Treat your dad/child/wife/etc the way you want others to treat them.
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We abuse GEJ and PMB without realizing that we are inadvertently desecrating the seat of The President, Federal Republic of Nigeria. Other Nationals now have the temerity to call a former Nigerian president a Buffoon. Would they address president Obama or Bush like that?

Sadly, this despicable tag on GEJ will resonate with a lot of Nigerians who will throng this forum to validate their prejudice, instead of them to call the newspaper to order. It is totally unacceptable for the Economist to address a Nigerian president with those words.
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Irrespective of whatever grudges we may have, I think it's better to focus on criticizing the policies, actions or inactions of the president (GEJ/PMB) rather than hauling insults on their person.

A man who drags himself into the dirt should not be ashamed of being the companion of pigs...Yes, it is a slap on the nation as a whole that a THE ECONOMIST would make such a statement concerning a former president of a sovereign country but I believe much worse was said about Abacha and no one seemed to be bothered...Let's face it. GEJ, dragged both himself and the country as a whole into the gutter of the world, made every sensible Nigeria a laughing stock and consigned this country to a position as ignoble as can be imagined...

Right now, we need to do a damage assessment and work our way back to the place of glory we once occupied...and probably beyond!

This is what happens when 'babies' are offered admission into the university...the lecturers all of a sudden see themselves as parents away from home and do to students what they do to their kids at home...

ebila:
This is a rather controversial issue.Some men feel there's an extent to which a woman would be wrong and it'd warrant hitting her and some women also share this view.What's your take on the issue? Is there any time or any reason when you feel it's ok to hit a woman? Women,do you think there's a time when it's excusable for you to be hit?

Foolishness abounds in the heart of a child but the rod of correction drives it far from him...if your wife is acting childish you, being mature, are permitted to apply the rod on her...the rod in this case could be anything that: judges right or wrong righteously, chastises the errant woman without destroying her and corrects her foolishness. However, due to the carnality of our soul, we men tend to judge unrighteously, destroy and not chastise and harden the woman instead of correcting her...

For instance, she stays at her friend's place for so long, that she arrives home too late to cook and perform her duties...Yes, she's wrong, but she's not as wrong as a woman that spends the night in a club but lies to be at her place of work doing overtime. Chastising her with emotion laden words will pass the message and declaring she never stays out beyond a certain time is enough chastisement but beating her up will amount to: destroying her psychologically, spiritually and indeed the very same body you as a man will demand for in bed! She'll learn but peace will never be in that home and whatever you want that ordinarily she should give willingly will have to be taken by force...and even when your wife is not the kingdom of God, anything you get from her, after beating her up, will and must be by violence and by force...

To chastise is not to abuse and correction is not destruction, hence chastise but do not abuse, correct but do not destroy...this principle also applies to how you correct errant kids.

cheerycoco:
I have been dating this guy for years now and i have put up with his serial cheating. He cheats on me and i have come to feel that a man cheating on you is normal. I have talked about it with him, cried about it, the truth is that i have gotten used to him and i can't stay without him and he knows it. Seriously i'm fade up because his side chicks insult me any time i try to confront them on phone and its so painful. i have phobia of being alone. Pls i need ur advice. I love him

...a goat is in love with a wolf, hmmmm...my dear, become a sheep and be in love with a shepherd! How? You must first stop being a goat! Accept Christ and become a sheep with Christ as a shepherd, you are bonded to him because of a soul tie between you two and that can be broken by separation and prayers...Christ will given you a man like him, a shepherd who is faithful to his sheep!

OLAADEGBU:
If angels and demons can't die, what is the point of their engaging in battle? If angels and demons are immortal, why do they bother fighting each other?

All of God's creation that has a soul, a will and has the capability of choosing between right and wrong are all immortals...man is immortal, demons are immortal, angels are immortal. So the question is what really is 'death'? Our entrapment in the physical world has severely constrained our perception and valuation of reality...Death is simply a transition from one form of functionality to another mutually exclusive form of functionality and by this definition, it is even plausible for even inanimate objects to die!

A chair was originally designed by the carpenter to bear a person's entire mass in a sitting position but if three of the four legs upon which the chair rests is damaged, that chair ceases to function as a chair and could be termed dead.

Man was created to have fellowship with God and that fellowship was made possible by the Spirit of God in man but when man sinned and the Spirit of God left his spirit man died, though he remained in existence, because he ceased to function as he was created by God to function. He no longer had fellowship with God.

The angels of Genesis6:3 left their original habitation for lusty reasons and in the end they were chained with chains of darkness in Tarturus awaiting the day of judgement. These angels died, though they still existed, because in the position they now are they cannot perform the same functions for which they were created.

At the millennial reign of Christ, satan would be bound for a 1000 years and he will not be able to deceive anyone during this period...hence for this period it can be said that satan would be dead to the world because he will not be able to function in the purpose for which is recreated himself, which is to deceive!

Demons can die, if they are paralyzed and rendered powerless...hence, though they exist, they are dead because they can no longer perform the functions which they are known to perform against man!

Death is not necessarily non-existence and existence is not necessarily life

plappville:
Same problem in Christianity. Self-righteousNess. Believing others who do not believe or trust thier Pastors or do not agree with thier church doctrine have no spiritual eyes. You know urself even with this you fall sometimes. Can you wholeheartedly certify someone to be a true Prophet ? Are you more spiritual than Jeremiah the prophet who didn't know a false prophet but say amen to what a false prophet prophecy? Well. Like I said before. I am not accusing anyone to be false. But I am been careful. Through with this talk cheers.

thnx 4 ur patience, i enjoyed our conversation...

Zikkyfuse:
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Abba Hikima from Kano State has declared his niece missing. 4-year-old Zainab has been missing for two days. Anyone with useful information should please contact the numbers below. He shared the post yesterday:

"SLM, my niece Zainab, 4 years old is missing for about 30hrs now. We solicit for your prayers. Do join us on the lookout pls. ma'assalam. 08065501189, 08065577004, 08035678024, 08055528288"

Abba Hikima/Facebook

http://www.chuzzysblog.com/2016/01/this-beautiful-little-girl-is-missing.html

lalasticlala, mynd44

if you are a christian and you love as Christ would...please, join in fasting and praying for this girl's safety, perhaps God can reverse the intended evil and spare the life of this child that has a destiny ahead of her...

HateU2:
Waoh! I really cried! That's so touching. I promise to be faithful when I find him.

eeeeeeeeerrrrrrrmmm, sorry oh! Before you meet him nko...Will you be unfaithful before you meet and be faithful afterwards? Because whether you like it or not HE's out there and cheating on him before meeting him is as good as cheating on him after you meet him...

kenchylala:
How sure er u?
When the president refuses too obey court orders. Tell me a country where dis is practiced Why jump a query at a station when u ve fuel everywhere, ve u gone to house dats so clean u won't want to drop ur waste, u will b d one finding, n asking were d bin is. Mk 9ja d same way. WHY DON'T NIGERIANS Misbehave when dey get too countries with working policies...

Sanity in a country of insanity is invariably insanity...change is the worst enemy of the status quo and hence a judiciary that has for ages been mired in ignoble acts of vindicating the guilty and punishing the innocent and defenseless cannot and must not be obeyed by a crusader of change...if punitive measures are advanced against the indiscipline Nigerians have come to get used to and then and then alone can we say we are lovers of change!

[size=20] AMEN OHHHH! [/size]

A fool threw a her only piece of fish to a rat...and expected the rat to share...if the igbo guy is the devil, then that lady is a grand fool just like Eve...The guy dumped her used spare parts for the chassis of some other foolish lady...

plappville:
If Simon didn't make this attempt, would Peter had known his heart? Remember verse 13 says
13 Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.

He was not truelly repented but was with them everywhere they go. They didn't rebuke him. Until He made them know He was pretending to have truelly repented. Only God can read the heart of a man. I am not saying there are no strong men of God today. My point is that. There are so many fake ones who can easily decieve even the very elects just as Christ says. Do not be carried away by thier signs and wonders. Many out there are Simon.

My dear we are in the era of signs and wonders...if Christians are to start ringing bells of suspicion every time they see a sign or wonder they will throw away the baby with the bath water and by that i mean they will treat both the works or God and those of satan in like manner and it is a shame for any Christian to do that because it is written: 1Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. ...If you are rich in the spirit you will know the things freely given to you from God. The signs and wonders sent from the LORD are for your edification and spiritual growth and are to be discerned. if you cannot discern the signs and wonders of God then check your spiritual life and grow...

Many Christians have died in ignorance...many Christians who would have consulted a true elder as it is written in James 5:14 have turned their eyes away simply because of the rumours promoted by the dark powers to derail afflicted people from receiving their salvation and deliverance...Sis, we are in the age of signs and wonder, satan and his children are performing, Christ and his true sons are performing by the power of the HolyGhost it is better a Christian take a stand and not be on the fence...

plappville:
If Simon didn't make this attempt, would Peter had known his heart? Remember verse 13 says
13 Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.

He was not truelly repented but was with them everywhere they go. They didn't rebuke him. Until He made them know He was pretending to have truelly repented. Only God can read the heart of a man. I am not saying there are no strong men of God today. My point is that. There are so many fake ones who can easily decieve even the very elects just as Christ says. Do not be carried away by thier signs and wonders. Many out there are Simon.

Lemme tell you oga! Simon the sorcerer was revered to be from God by people who knew next to nothing of God or of his precepts. Philip preached to them and baptised them because all the while when John the Baptist, Christ and his disciples were baptising they were merrying in ignorance and sin...Simon was judged by the words of his own mouth, and that's why i say if you want to detect a false prophet check what he teaches, preaches and profess...Do you even know a prophet can be called and empowered by God but yet be false and lead people away into sin. Imagine churches where ministers and members are almost nude and they are encouraged not rebuked even when God speaks against it in Exodus 20:26...the elect of God must soak up God's anointing and power to see, hear and know God and satan's tricks...If satan used David against Israel who else can he not use (1Cronicles21:1) but if we grow in power and love, satan's deception becomes obvious...

plappville:
Mind you. I didnt accused him of been false. What I wrote was for all who claimed to be prophets. If you read the entire book of Jeremiah you will know that. The Jews has many false Prophets they believed them just like we do today. But God made them know he didn't speak to those prophets. He called them false prophets. But yet the Jewish people believe thier lies. Until God used Jeremiah to exposed them. We have to be careful confirming things. I believe only God can confirm a true Prophet. You are talking like the Muslims. They confirm Muhammad with full confidence. You do not know what people do in secret. The book of acts shows Simon the sorsorer healing people and doing miracles. By the way, who told you The church of Christ was built on Peter?

At your level of spiritual maturity is it hard to detect a sorcerer?Simon the sorcerer was exposed by Peter when he attempted to buy the anointing with money.
Satan cannot propagate the kingdom of God but our powerlessness has exposed us to deception.Do you know why Christ warned that even the elect could be deceived?Christ himself said: "when i return shall i find faith"...If you hear from God,faith enters your life and if you believe you'll see the glory of God.The question is how many of the elect today hear God well?How many of the elect can see the glory of God?We jump up and down in powerless churches and say we are in the era of grace but David under the old and outdated covenant did not only hear God,he beheld his glory (Psalm 27:4, Psalm 18).Common Ezekiel under this same covenant was by the river Chebar and yet saw God live and direct (Ezekiel 1-2)...Elijah displayed power and not tales by moonlight.

Power and Love!

Without these two we'll be casting news on the pulpit!