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plappville:
Remember the saying: (“Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing.”) except you do not agree they exist in this end time.

In Matthew 7 Jesus is outlining the pathway to God – entry through Christ himself, walking the long, challenging road of discipleship. He also warns tht there are false prophets – "wolves in sheep’s clothing." What does this mean?

People who profess to know and teach the truth that leads to life but really they are teaching lies that lead to destruction. How do we know the difference? Jesus tells us that it’s actually not that difficult. Look at their lives.

False prophets are more interested in themselves than others. False prophets are greedy, self-indulgent, self-obsessed, gaining popularity and power hungry.

Teachers of truth, followers of Christ are becoming like Jesus. Jesus died without any money, no estate and only the clothes on his back. Teachers of the truth are committed to the gospel of peace – loving God and loving others. Leaders who follow Christ have lives that are marked by "humility, selflessness, commitment to Jesus, and commitment to serve others".

These are the unmistakable qualities of the spiritual gift of leadership. But false teachers are committed to "controversies, exclusive behaviors, power structures, personal wealth accumulation, withholding permission and self-centered ministry models . Beware of them, don't be deceived by them. Don’t follow them and don’t give them a cent. If we do not agree they exist, we make the bible a piece of sh""T.

OK let's look at the traits you outlined above of a false prophet and you'll something interesting...According to you sir, False prophets are greedy, self-indulgent, self-obsessed, gaining popularity and power hungry.

First let's look at greed. I doubt a person like T B Joshua is anywhere close to being greedy! I worship at MFM but I have visited the SCOAN out of curiosity and i must tell you he's not close to being described by the term greedy. Here is man that started a church in a wooden shack with locals. In his early beginnings he was given to servitude to the church and he had a form not worthy to look upon. TB Joshua in his early 30s down to his 40s paid his dues in sacrificing the flesh for his spirit to develop. He knew the flesh lusts against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh and now that he has risen the current spiritual height he has access to heavenly riches in Christ Jesus which Jesus promised those who give their all in service to him and the body of Christ (please see Matthew 19:27-29). If TB Joshua is to be regarded as being greedy, then Cephas (Peter) upon whom the church was founded will also be categorized as extra-ordinarily GREEDY!

You claim self-indulgence...Well I guess even Jesus Christ was accused of this. John the Baptist came fasting and praying and the pharisees said he had a demon but Christ came eating and drinking with sinners, publicans and extortionists and the same pharisees claimed he was a DRUNKARD AND GLUTTON, more or less a self-indulgent person (Matthew 11:18-19)...Christians do not judge a matter after the physical appearance (John 7:24), rather we live by faith and not by sight and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. So before your accusation of T B Joshua's self indulgence will hold water it must be based on the revelation of God's word and not your mere physical observation.

You claim self-obsessed...Well Jesus too would have been accused of this! When Jesus told his disciples to cross to the other side of the river and he by foot caught up with them in mid-sea, he could be easily have been accused of being a SHOW-OFF brandishing his ability to defy the physical forces of nature at will...but no one brings a charge against the LORD's elect (Romans 8:33) let alone a charge against Christ himself. So if T B Joshua is to be termed self-obsessed then i think Christ himself is the ultimate culprit because as it is written, all the books in world cannot document the miraculous deeds of Christ (John 21:25) - we could easily say, he didnt have to do so much just to show how powerful he is!

You say gaining-popularity...Well Jesus Christ was here on earth for more than 2000 years now but in the last ranking of the most popular prophets Jesus Christ topped the chart like a hyper mega super star! Well indeed he is a star, because he's the bright and morning star...Even today, Jesus Christ is on the lips of even muslims, atheists, satanists, ecks, buddhists and what have you...and guess what Jesus himself said and i quote: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. " (John 14:12) Now this means, if after 2000 years Christ is still the all time popular celebrity then it won't be out of place for Christians to remain popular after 10000 years...It is just a pity, there are few Christians but many Church goers!

...and lastly you say power hungry...Wow, brother, do you read scriptures at all! Paul, unlike many of our powerless preachers today all over the world, asserted that his preaching and teaching were not with enticing words of man's wisdom but with the demonstration of spirit and power (1 Corinthians 2:4). No wonder Peter in a matter of 5 minutes preaching was able to rake in 3000 souls to Christ (Acts 2: 41) How many powerless men of God today can even dream of that. People come to church afflicted, tortured and deceived by the forces of darkness and all that these powerless men of God can do is say "it is well" when NOTHING IS WELL...Even Paul said we should covet the best gifts of the spirit and more specifically that we should prophesy (1 Corinthians 12:31 and 1 Corinthians 14:39) but we have men of God that cannot discern witches and wizards doing meeting in the church, they cannot hear from the LORD his words of wisdom and word of knowledge and worse still they do not have spiritual vision to be able to see into the spirit realm and uncover the hidden mysteries of scripture...rather they come and cast news from the Bible like NTA newscasters and when they are done the sheep of the LORD will go home underfed, spiritually malnourished and oppressed of the devil...Bro as a Christian, you are either powerful or not a Christian at all. A powerless Christian, is a faithless Christian and a faithless Christian is not a Christian at all...na benchwarmer be dat!

From the foregoing it is clear that you cannot clearly identify a false prophet and i humbly recommend you read the spiritual tutorial offered by Peter on who a false prophet is in 2 Peter 2:1-22...

T B Joshua is no where close to being false but he is every bit a prophet...his gift of the word of knowledge is OUTSTANDING! That man can strip you down to your boxers with his spiritually vision and the LORD confirms the words of T B Joshua with MIND BLOWING and UNBELIEVABLE signs and wonders (Hebrews2:3-4)!

...but the problem of many is that they'd rather judge the man T B Joshua from the comfort of their home with a PC and an internet connection on NAIRALAND than go themselves to SCOAN and see the wonders of God firsthand...

Jordi:
he is making predictions not prophecies....

...and what is prophecy?

EternalTruths:
His accuracy are high but people need to pray to God to be sure he is of the Lord.

Can satan cast out satan? Can the devil permit any of his children to publicly and brazenly humiliate his demons in public? Can satan teach people to have faith in God? Can satan permit any of his children reverse the sickness, disease and problems of mankind using his power? You don see where Babalawos dey evangelize Jesus with megaphone from their shrine? You don see where Freemason dey cast out demons for people life? You don see where Luciferian dey preach plead blood of Jesus? You don hear where Illuminati folks dey humiliate demons, interrogate them, put fire on them and kick dem straight to hell?

Please don't fall the spirit of slumber that is at work in the end time (Romans11:8 )...this spirit makes people have eyes that do not see, have ears that do not hear as prophesied by Isaiah (Isaiah6:10) and makes them believe a lie and reject the truth...

By the words of a man, he is justified and by his words he is condemned...listen to his words, judge them by scripture and by the inward witness and you will find like others have found that T. B. Joshua is prophet sent from the LORD GOD!

Boss OP! This is so on point...this would touch a lot o lives posivitely...thumbs up!!!

...we have not even gone a week into the new year and the prophecies of men of God are already coming to pass...anyway as for me and the household of faith: When the world says there is a casting down, we the household of faith shall say there is a lifting up!

"Judge" in the old testament scriptures meant a lot of things, in Gen15:14 it meant "to contend with", in Gen16:5 "to pass a sentence or to vindicate or punish" and in Gen31:37 it meant "to determine right or wrong"...this is also so in the New Testament scriptures as the word Judge is used to encapsulate all the meanings given by the old testament scriptures...So while it must be clear that distinguishing between what is right from what is wrong is in agreement with the scriptures you presented in your exegesis, the condemning or the passing of a sentence on erring or innocent persons could be detrimental - and in both cases, the word Judge is used.

It must be noted that Jesus was just teaching man to be on the safe side...Jesus taught that in the manner in which you judge others, will you also be judged! Hence if you judge, and by judge i mean passing a verdict, you will be judged in like manner (Luke6:37). So if you must judge do not judge by appearance by judge righteously (John7:24) for then and only then will you be judged righteously as well...and by judging righteously, i mean judging by faith or judging by the will of Christ. For Christ is the Judge (Rom2:16) and if Christ judges, i mean passes a verdict through your words, you are justified and none can judge you (

I conclude that you can correct the guilty without stoning them with verdicts and you can encourage the innocent without blinding them with flattery. Only the LORD Jesus Christ has the rewards for the guilty and the innocent and not any man born of a woman...So judge (John7:24) but do not judge (1Cor4:5)...

Yahushuabride1:
@ OP I hear you and I believe Adelaida de Carillo's testimony.

I'm a female Christian living in a Western country; I used to wear earrings, until the Lord Jesus spoke to me during an all-night vigil in 2009, to take-off my ornaments and replace them with the word of God.
During the all-night vigil, the Pastor asked each of us one after the order, what the Lord Jesus told us during the prayers, we told him; however, the Pastor could not make sense out of what I told him - as per what I had heard from the Lord Jesus pertaining me putting-off my earrings.
I never had peace in my heart about earring/s until one day in year 2013, I was asking myself this same question that the OP is asking here.

I live in a Western country, and I was interviewing people, then one after the other, the males who were coming for the interview had earring/s on, and some females as well. I also had my earrings on back then.
Then I asked myself this question, " should a man wear earrings or not ? ", but then it dawned on me that I had no moral right to criticise a man or boy for wearing earring/s, if I myself was wearing earring/s. This is simply because THERE IS NO WHERE IN THE HOLY BIBLE THAT STATES SPECIFICALLY THAT EARRINGS ARE MEANT FOR ONLY WOMEN !

From that day onwards I finally put-off my earrings for good. Never to wear them anymore. I've stopped putting on all forms of ornaments on my body, for the same reason, and as backed by the Holy scriptures in 1 PETER 3: 3-5, 1 TIMOTHY 2: 9-10, and some other old testament bible verses - aforementioned on this thread- that serve as eye-openers for me on this issue of earrings.

So now, I can gladly say that I've finally obeyed what my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ told me to do in 2009.

Earring/s date back from Pagan culture, and in that cultural sense, both males and females used it.
Finally, Earrings are not exclusively meant for women alone. If you forbid men from wearing earrings, then you must forbid women from wearing earrings.
If you forbid men from wearing dresses then you must forbid women from wearing trousers.
If you allow a woman to wear earrings, and her son/s wish to wear earrings as well, that woman has herself to blame.

These days men shave their head-hair and women shave their head-hair to church too.

The bible says Christian women are not supposed to shave their head-hair, see 1 Corinthians 11.

Unfortunately, these days everybody does what they want and what they like, they say the bible is irrelevant today.

PLEASE CHRISTIAN MEN AND CHRISTIAN WOMEN SHOULD NOT WEAR ORNAMENTS - EARRINGS, NOSE RINGS, WEDDING RINGS, BRACELETS, NECKLACES, ANKLETS E.T.C !

CHRISTIANS PLEASE GO TO GOOGLE AND CHECK THE ORIGIN OF WEDDING RINGS. DON'T BE IGNORANT OF THE WILES OF THE DEVIL.



By the grace of God, my beliefs, dress codes and life style are strictly based on the Holy bible, because the Holy Bible never loses its relevance as far as I'm concerned.

I hope my small contribution here has helped you all.

Thanks

Hi Yahshuahbride1 i read your response to my opening post and i must say i am impressed at your response...in addition i read your posts on the religious section too...I would not mind knowing you and getting acquainted! I just 'pm'ed you and i hope to hear from you...

...this is just a tip of the iceberg, the worst is yet to come...

Psalm18:
StFU you prik.
Your demise will be faster not mine.
Arswipe.
Your gullibility is very much like that of false prophets such barJesus and the prophets of baal.
Dont mention my name again, if you don't want me to reign more abuse on you.

...again I say...IF YOU DO NOT REPENT OF THIS FOOLISHNESS, YOUR DEMISE WOULD BE THE PROOF THAT THESE MEN ARE FROM THE LORD, GOD...

Psalm18:
Hahahahaha
Oyibo boy has joined the trade.

He said he saw a former minister and former president dying.

Hahahahaha, just because Diezani is ill and Shagari is getting on in age- all these clowns have been feasting on their condition.

These false prophets may end up dying before them.

The question still remains
Does God only send text message to this people on new year?
Why are they conflicting prophesy,if its from the one true God who created the world?

This people do more harm than advance the gospel with their lies.

...but why are you speaking thus of people whose character and spirituality you know nothing about...your ignorance is very much like that of Beltshazzer the son of Nebuchadnezzer and i ASSURE YOU IF YOU DO NOT REPENT OF THIS FOOLISHNESS, YOUR DEMISE WOULD BE THE PROOF THAT THESE MEN ARE TRULY FROM THE LORD, GOD!

Sunnyade01:
Yoruba elite realized very early how you can use religion (Christianity) as a tool to acquire wealth, become popular, respected, prominent and become untouchable even in foreign land.

Adeboye
Joshua
Oyedepo etc

I hail thee!

See as Naija church full Europe and America and spreading all over Asia.
They can easily get visas to travel anywhere and easily conduct business transactions under the guise of ministering!

Smart guys,

...and you are smarter than the Asians, Europeans and Americans who are welcoming the ministry of these men of God at alarming rates...so with your Nigerian education and exposure you can easily detect the disguise of men of God that Asians, Europeans and Americans cannot detect even with the sophisticated technology, know-how and development...Dude, your situation is critical oh...lo to ju ara e!!!

Wait...this piece can leave even the commenter confused...First you claim you dumped him when he had nothing, yet you say you love him - Na wich kain love be dat!? Second, you are wondering why he is painef after 4 years. Put yourself in his shoes would you accept him back if he dumped you when you appeared valueless? The guy's spiting you already for what you did to him and he obviously hasn't forgotten or maybe forgiven you...so expect more! Thirdly, you say you actually dumped him because he's possessive and now he appears non-challant. Well from the looks of things he's still who he is, so i wonder why you are back? If your so called love did not make you endure his character when he was poorer then why are you enduring now that he's richer and at the same time claiming you are confused...you are confusing even the confused situation you are in and confusing the probably confused commenters...

My advice: leave now, he'll visit your sin soon and you'll be more confused than ever...

and to reminiscing:

I like your stance as a woman...if Eve took her stand, as you did, when the serpent offered her a transaction that involved here selling a priceless gift perhaps mankind would not have been where it is today...if many women took their stand like you did there would be fewer whores in Africa but nevertheless in the face of the evils in our world I will like to quote Obama: "After the bad have done their worst, the good must do their best"...so keep doing your best anywhere you find yourself and may our collective best stand tall against the worst evils of this world. Amen.

Cesclxg:
I think u need a couple of classes in logic, then maybe u can make better arguments. Buh for now, go sleep and stop making ur ignorance so obvious. Sometimes u think u know, sometimes u think u are making sense, buh right now I will categorically tell u that u ain't...

...well it appears we at our limits...No hard feelings! I've got my stance, ideals and belief systems as well as you do and you have made your point known...
As for the rationality of my arguments, you may suggest i take classes in logic, but i assure you i did and i did excellently in it...but as for if i am making sense to you that is a whole new ball game...my sense may be senseless to you but that's my sense. It is clear we are not arguing rationality here but rubbing our deeply contrasting worldviews against each other...No hard feelings mehn...

armadeo:
The Nash equilibrium suggests that the group is better if looking after itself than individuals. But the question is who is the group formed against?

Let's still not deviate from topic. I feel this matter is simple. An offer was made and it was rejected. The entire hullabaloo is unnecessary.

...good, but does that now justify all the manner of aspersions and negative statements hurled against the lady?

beeserious:
Please Lady Doveda control yourself.U can make your point without abuses you know.
So you think its ok for a girl to ask a practical stranger, a man,for money and for him to just give her just like that.When we were little,our parents beat us if they even heard that we begged for food from our classmates or worse, asked a stranger for money.
This scenario is no better. Thank you

Is the OP a kid? I believe she's not...and i believe the morale behind parents requiring kids not to take things from strangers is because they as kids are yet to be accountable for their deeds...but I want to ask, is it wrong to ask for help? You are asking the lady if it is right to ask for help from a practical stranger, did you know God personally before asking for help? Or Ok some would say that example is, 'wack', must you know you lecturer, neighbor or even a classmate before you can ask them for help? At least you would have prepared your mind to hear: Oh, i can't help you...that's Ok...but is it consistent with good behavior to pin your assistance on a sexual favor?

armadeo:
Only in utopia can every man be equal. There is no utopia.

And believe me when I say for every single gain you've made someone lost.

No theorist or empiricist asks for equality...equality is an illusion. No two things are ever and will ever be equal...but there is a baseline, a minimum requirement or limit to everything in life...and I believe you agree to that. However how we deviate from this limit or minimum differs but it would be an anomaly to find someone way below the limit or minimum...Bro not all of us want to be millionaires, some just want a bungalow in their village and a job paying 30k a month and they are OK!

...and to correct your historically erroneous belief that what a man gains another loses, please read the response of Adam Smith and David Ricardo to the Mercantilist doctrine of the zero-sum game...Life is not, has not and will never be a zero sum. I believe you have heard of synergy and i believe you know what it means...When persons in a game, act to maximize their collective gain, they gain much more than when each player seeks his gain alone - this is at the heart of the so called Nash Equilibrium and is the basis for the formation of cartels and non-price competition which is evidenced today in the Nigerian telecoms industry...so you see, the zero sum principle died a long time ago...If i can gain more than you lose then we can share the excess and live happily...

armadeo:
Wrong again.

The man asked for sex and she refused. The correct thing to say is would you accept a monetary offer for your head. He can then make a choice.

Oh no sir, if you have been attentive to my reasoning you'll realize that my stance is against the belief that money can afford the priceless things of life...I am not defending the lady here, i am criticizing the man and these are two different things...For the man to announce his intention to offer his financial assistance for sex, he must have had and have justified the ideal that money can purchase sex...Now if something as sacred as sex can be purchased, why can't i purchase something as sacred as your head...why can't i simply offer to pay you to sit down and watch me be your wife's husband for 4 hours in the presence of your kids...

armadeo:
All examples given here are completely tangential to the discourse.

Unrelated.

The situation is more like a student who can't meet up academically begging the lecturer to pass and the lecturer asked for sex. She then has a choice.

so the lecturer in this case is justified to make such a offer? if he were then no wonder Nigerian universities churn out graduates that can hardly think outside their Instruments...

so the best that a lecturer can do to a student who isn't meeting up academically but wants to pass is to offer the sex for grades transaction...WoW, if Marie Curie were trained like that i wonder if we would have been able to study radio waves today...Bro, if you fail, you re-study, re-sit and re-write the exam. How does sex for grades fit into the curriculum of the University...

armadeo:
For your information Thomas Hobbes is right the world is short nasty and Brutish. Better wise up fast so you don't end up with the short end of the stick.

Somebody has to do the shitty jobs despite all the money cause even in America some one clears the shit. That's just reality.

Yea reality...the hundreds of thousands of people dying per day, the over 700 million people living below the poverty line, the soaring rates of human trafficking, the rising level of drug trafficking and oh lest i forget the legendary 90-10 principle - 90% of the world's resources controlled by 10% of the world's population...well if that is the reality the good, the bad and the ugly must embrace, then i guess i had better be the best in art of being conman because life has become a zero sum gain...your loss, my game...is this your reality? O ma se o!!!

Cesclxg:
Ur logic is so wack. The analogy u just gave is baseless since it has nothing to do with the discussion in question. The example you gave is a case of 'apples and oranges' comparison. Two entirely different scenarios with nothing in common...

...yes, it is baseless because you say so...you know exactly what i am alluding to but you chose the regular cop-out technique...the man in the post can use his money to get sex and he is justified at that, so also i can use my money to bring down your head for ritual purposes and i am justified at that...the central theme is using your resources to get what ordinarily your money should not be able to buy...but unfortunately, money can buy anything nowadays and that includes sex and your head on a platter...

flokii:
bro.. calm down na

shey dem tell you say na me be d guy ni?

btw how're you sure d guy in question has much or is rich

you know somtin I've learnt in life?... never judge from one side of a story as there are always three sides

ow I wish d guy can give his own account of d story

Bro i do not need the account of the other man...I feel emotional about this because it is what is happening everywhere and everyday...People who have power believe they can use it however they like irrespective of who lives or who dies...

Look at our schools, imagine in an MSc class a lecturer is dictating a textbook and she knows because she's powerful no one can challenge her madness...imagine a lecturer whose sexual advances were denied by a student and because of her the lecturer chooses to mark down everyone just to spite only one person in the class...why, because he has power to do so and no one can challenge him...

If we all ventured in search of power to molest, coerce, subjugate and oppress others tell me what kind of world would it be...would it be paradise?

Cesclxg:
Does it matter if he made his real intention known after making the declaration that he wud pay her rent? Does it matter if he reneged on his promise? Is he bound by any contract to kip his promise? What if he wants something in return and that thing is sex? Are u to be the judge of that? Will u act as the judge, the jury and the excecutioner? Is the money not his? An offer was made buh u ain't okay with it, so u walked away and he did the same... Wasn't it the op that was trying the reach the man in question on phone? The man is not ready to part with his hard earned money, are we to blame him for that? Pls enough of ur hypocrisy. If u think the man is wrong, y don't u give the op the #40k?

you call me a hypocrite? Ok let's see who the real hypocrite is...If i need a human head for ritual purposes and i pay an assassin to get me your head at the price of 50k, would i be morally justified?

Please answer, Yes or No and explain...by the time you are done explaining you'll know who the real hypocrite is!

armadeo:
You are still looking at this from a very narrow perspective. Is it because it involves sex? What if a situation arises that an individual is offered cash for his/her kidney due to lack what would you say.

She was made an offer and she refused. What's the big deal cos she was at a disadvantage? Everything is about offers you either accept or refuse. It's your choice. People work shitty jobs they hate because they have no choice.

When you go for a bank loan and they ask for an arm and a leg why don't you tell them to be benevolent.

I am not in agreement with what the guy did but it's his choice let him also be. We cannot judge him from our own perspective cause he also has his perspective

Bro this is why this world is screwed and will remain screwed till the end...with the resources in this world, should anyone be doing a shitty job? No, please look at Nigeria. With over 600 billion dollars made in oil revenue since 1999 should Nigeria be reeling under the oil price crash and many battling with no salary payments? I am not against people making their choices when there are ample choices to make...Have you read the works of Amartya Sen? Please do if you can and you'll see that the developed countries are called developed because on the average its people have a wide range of choices to choose from...An American prostitute is into the job because its fun and they even talk of making a career out of it with the like of Angeline Jolie, Sara Jay etc being celebrated porn stars at some point in their lives. Now these have choices...but in Africa this is not so. The choices are severely limited and people are burdened into doing what ordinarily they would not have done...

Bro, my point is if you, I and all of us were governed by the very same philosophy that guides that man who made such an offer, the world would be what Thomas Hobbes said it would be: "short, nasty and brutish..."

flokii:
doveda abi wetin you call ursef... e be like say something dey insyd this matter wey you wan gain.... abi why you wan dieee ontop another pesin matter

shey na by force to do charity ni?... d guy talk say he own get conditions then d OP can quietly walk away unless she has evil intentions herself...


and just so you know... a woman would hardly assist her.. if you doubt, ask her to meet one

btw are you related to a former president cos you be woman wrapper

...and imagine a world where no one cares who dies and who lives but all we care about is what we gain...is that not the world we are in today? Many of you talking and spouting all manner of crap can do so because a rich man hasn't walked into your relationships, order the kidnapping of your girlfriend (because he's rich and powerful) and have you fan him while he pounds your highly cherished girlfriend to stupor...many of you are narrow minded and only see the flow of events from your hedonistic perspective...

Cesclxg:
What is the use of ur money if u can use it to get what u want even if that commodity is sex. The truth is even the rich use their money to get sex even if they do not consciously plan it that way. The Mere fact that u are rich or wealthy makes most girls want to give u sex even without u asking because of what they hope to get from u. It is just common sense...

...those ladies are willing to do the trade...a lady whose sees her body as a commodity will readily offer it up for sale but in this case the man in question offered to help and this drew the lady's attention only for him to declare his real intention...gold diggers are so easy to tell, for they literally have it written on their foreheads and this makes them the easy commodity to purchase but in the case of the OP she reveals she's not down for that...and if she were she wouldn't be here in the first place...

...and bro, if you stand for the view that anything can and ought to be exchanged for money, then you should be happy with the way the world is today...because i assure you, the world is the way it is today because of the conflict of interests, the interests of persons who believe that more wealth, fame and power is better than less at any cost be it the cost of human lives, peace and sanity.

armadeo:
Let me put it simply for him to understand.


You don't see the world the way it is you only see it the way you are.

Efficiencie if you can use your tongue to lure a female why can't another use his cash. You are all arriving at the same destination wether by road or by train. Everything is limited to your point of view. Enlarge your scope.

...did you read my post at all...i concluded that with words you can lure a dumb lady or a willing lady...and in both situations sex is consensual and blissful...but when you coerce a person who is in desperate need, using you wealth and power, Oh c'mon...It's easy to call the OP all kinds of names but i tell you, you'll feel unimaginable and unforgettable pangs of pain when you give up a priceless possession for a temporal assistance...

I am not a saint, as defined by the world, i am someone that lives by his conscience...and i wonder how i will be comfortable sleeping with a lady who really does not want the intercourse but brings herself too low to accept it all for the money...bro, i am not an angel but i'll never do that...

As a people, who love peace, hate wars, cherish brotherhood and stand for justice we are to be sacrificial even in the face of mockery...Jesus Christ was called a mugu by the very same people he came to save and today many of the people who call on him for peace, safety and success were once robbers, whores, killers, deceivers, blasphemers and the likes...If Christ were to take the advice many have advanced here, he would have destroyed the world again, as he did Sodom and Gomorrah, even before now...

...and for the atheists that do not accept the existence of Christ, i say if the true price of knowledge were imposed in every school and for every book you will never be knowledgeable enough to stand faced-off against an invisible being whose existence, according to you, is in dispute...your knowledge is the sacrifice of another irrespective of what is paid to get knowledge...Sacrifice is at the heart of all of man's achievements.

If Faraday must be paid for his discovery, by now virtually all of us would bear Faraday as surnames. If Einstein and the scientists on the Manhattan project had not ended the war with the atom bomb, Hitler would have had access to that weapon sooner than later and installed himself and the all time emperor of the world...while i agree, profit is the driver commerce yet i acknowledge that though the ingenuity of man yields profit, profit is gross understatement of a befitting reward for sheer ingenuity and altruistic purposes often underlie this gross understatement...

In other words; sacrifice, altruism and benevolence are essentially drivers of ingenuity as well...Bro you can get all the sex you want and not destroy what you cannot create just to get temporal pleasure...

Ravenwolf:
Who made you the repository of manliness

If I do not share your perspective and leaning on the achievement of Sexual intimacy and satisfaction it does not make me less of a man. It simply makes me a different individual from you. You make the reprehensible mistake of assuming everyone shares your belief set.

If I offer money to a lady in exchange for sex, it is up to her to accept or not. I am not lost to the fact that it is not every girl you try to use money to attract.... Any girl I try to use money to get must have in some way put herself in that position.

I know your type...the-ends-justify-the-means kinda guy! Your morality is defined by a profit and loss statement. What brings you gain is good and whatever brings you loss is bad irrespective of the moral dangers of your gain and the societal importance of your loss...Well your type are in power in many countries of the world. They are the reason behind wars, famine, deception, destruction, genocide and all manner of evils the world is yet to know off...So if a lady puts herself in a position to be used and exploited for money then you will gladly pay to get what ordinarily money should not be able to buy? Well the likes of Dasuki are like that too. They plunder and pillage so that their position in the societal scheme is secured and so that their children and children's children will be ahead socially, physically and financially of their peer...

...well yeah, you've got a choice. A choice to see things the way you choose to see them, irrespective of who suffers or who survives...but when you are dead and long gone if you were given the opportunity to look back at the world that the likes of you have helped shaped, would you be proud of it?

Ravenwolf:
I have not the balls nor the tongue of a lyricist... Should I then let AGRO deal with me when I have money to look for intimate satisfaction.


I would never force anyone, but if they agree to my terms wether explicitly or implicitly, I shall get that punny.

Mehn words define the man...if you cannot use words to get what you want in this world then i wonder what you will get...Its not hard bro, you meet a lady and ask, ''lady, you look hot and would not mind a taste'' and if she's into the crap your asking for she'll give to you, live and if not you te si waju...but using money to coerce a lady is not the mark of a man...

manie:
We have NGOs and other charitable organisations like churches and mosques who can come to the aids needy Nigerians like the Op.

...and who makes up the churches...benches and chairs or men and women who believe in using their resources in meeting the needs of many...and not taking unfair and undue advantage of the weaknesses of others...

manie:
It is irresponsible men that give birth to children they can not comfortably provide for. It is an insult on me, for my unmarried daughters to rely on men they barely know for financial assistance. Nigerians should plan, be disciplined and be fully responsible for the consequences of our actions and in-actions.

so a thief who steals, kills and destroys to give his daughters the good life is a responsible man, while the once hardworking man who plummeted into poverty as a result of a stroke and cannot fend adequately for his family is irresponsible...mehn, I thank God that you are not God...cos if you were God, satan would have gone on a very long holiday...