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sbeezy8:
whos telling the truth ibo or hausa? lol ibo said they own 40% of lagos Hausa say theyve done TWICE 80%? lmfao

hahaha i find it soo funny people love lagos- should either group become more political i only see lagos having more ethnic classes

between ibo vs. hausa and yoruba ofcourse.

you see this is why yoruba people ARE ONLY MEANT FOR LAGOS AND SW- no tribal politics that engage non yorubas. LOL

ITS CRAZY I CANT WAIT TILL EVERYTHING HITS THE FAN- fashola too soft

But this dealer(German007) is not doing the right thing all.

He is also have issues here ;

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-567761.224.html

Any body who is against INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE is a RACIST. SIMPLE.

The only difference is the skin colour but every other thing remains the-same.

US PRESIDENT is a product of INTERRACIAL Relationship.

Osama10:
Please Oga mi, tell me when am getting my balance.

@ Osama10

Man do you know this dealer in person?

I will advise you to go and meet him if possible involve the police.

This dealer has disappointed not just once or twice but alot of times.

He can not be trusted.

NEXT TIME DON'T PAY FOR A VEHICLE YOU ARE YET TO SEE.

A court sanctioned access or visitation is better than the one your estranged Naija wife is going to give you, because she would always mess with you, but cannot mess with court ordered visitation.

[quote][/quote]CORRECT

When a custody arrangement is in place, it is legally binding. If one parent violates the terms of this custody agreement, then that parent is in violation of the law. She can be jailed for parental kidnapping and can face a host of other legal problems.

My Uncle had a similar issue with his Ex. He went to the US, got the custody of his kid and brought them back to Nigeria.

One thing we must realize is that both parties(Husband and Wife) are not Americans and if they are not separated that child will be brought back to Nigeria citizenship or not.

And the court do not award child custody based on gender, but on responsibility.

Both parties are their to prove who is more responsible.

And if the child get to certain age, he can decide who he wants to live with.

@ Op

Just take necessary legal steps and wait  patiently.

Your case is new to me. Worst cases have been settled.

All you need is patient and effort.

@ Outstrip

If the Op decide not to sponsor his wife's education abroad. You will be the first to rain all sorts of insult on him.

Now did what he thinks is right for his wife and every thing went wrong. Yet you are blaming him for the whole crisis.

It shows that this life is not fair .

Outstrip:
Irresponsible men at large. I have not seen one responsible married man on NL (we actually have a few) come into this thread yet so I will reserve my comment. Until one of them comes in here and says that they will let their pregnant wife go to a foreign land and in the two years they are gone bag a masters and give birth to a child and at the same time run a small business to keep things going then I will say I must have under estimated the strength of some women. I have had two children in this country with no family near. If my husband was not a hands on dad I would have gone mad. It is hell but the joys of being a mother is the only thing that keeps you going. That woman probably made that phone call to the poster from a psychiatric hospital because the only way she could have had that baby and raised him alone for two years and on top of that pass her classes is if she had to shut down her brain. It is almost not possible. I cannot imagine the hell she had to have gone through. I wish the poster will come here and say I sent her so so and so amount every month. Then I can begin to understand. I am not saying he is evil but I am saying without a doubt in my mind that if he truly put his wife in such an unbelievably difficult situation he really should not be surprised that she is saying bye. You can call her a ho or accuse her of being drawn to the dark side or say that America changed her but even the lowest of lowest of person should see that this man should have manned up for his family. For the females that say she is wrong even from what the husband has said pray that you get the exact same kind of man. Say Amen. This should be a learning experience for the poster. Next time do not stay apart from you wife for a long period of time and do not place demands on your spouse that you would place on yourself.

I know this is what you are driving at all this while ; blaming Op for the whole situation.

Maybe you should read where the Op said they both agreed she moved to the US for her Masters, she was not forced to go to the US for Masters.

And i wouldn't be surprised. if she accentually insisted on going to the US for masters.

All the Op can is to get his child. And let that women be.

Outstrip:
Can you please grow up. You sound like a two year old. Name one person you know who went through similar (man or woman) who got the child back. People divorce everyday. He needs to accept it and see what he can do to have a relationship with his child. This "go and take your child" or "get an international lawyer" thing is crap. He is obviously a young man. He can remarry and one day he will see his child. Right now is not the time to start making threats when he still has a good chance of seeing his child. If he approaches this ignorantly he will lose this child. He almost basically gave her address to someone on this site from the silly encouragement people were giving him. Do you even understand that that is enough to cause problems for him. This is not Nigeria. There are rules. You follow the rules and for the most part you will be fine. I sensed desperation in him. Nobody makes an intelligent decision when they are desperate. Maybe one day when you grow up you will understand these things. I am just going to assume that you are 22 years old and so have no true life experiences with things like this

You accentually  needs the growing up yourself.

I suspect you are not conversant with necessary laws regarding this issue.

Every one here are saying the guy needs to get a lawyer, but you are say other wise.

Outstrip:
Eyah. Sorry o that it is hurting you like this. I do have two sons but don't worry about them. It is your mother who made the bad choice of not aborting the animal she was carrying that I feel sorry for . Don't worry about my sons. Focus your time and money to pay for the international lawyer that you swear the poster needs to fight a losing battle.  I am sure as long as my sons stay away from your blood line we will be fine. We will not mix with low grade swine. Pele my dear. My sincere sympathy to your mother

@ Outstrip

You must be a very heartless woman/mother.

That useless woman ran away with the man's son. And you are here saying the man is "fighting a losing battle" to get his son back.

Is that a mockery of the situation?

Well let me tell you MRS IGNORAMUS, the legal system in US do award child custody based on gender or sex. But on RESPONSIBILITY.

If the court has enough evidence that the woman is not responsible, the child custody goes to the man and Vice-versa.

For your information both parents(MAN AND WOMAN) are not even US citizens and that makes it easier.

Outstrip:
I am supporting the woman because I said she did what she already did? Ok. She can divorce him if she wants to and then keep using his name if she chooses. It is now her legal name. It does not change anything. As for her Visa expiring he can definitely call and report her but I have a feeling that she is smart enough to get things rolling so that she does not get deported or break any rules. If he tries these games and it still does not work in his favor i.e having her deported what are the chances that she would make it easy for him to see his child. Nobody has said here that he has no right to see his child. I have said it a couple of times already and so have others. So I am not sure why you are hitting your head on a brick wall over what everyone here already knows. That is his God given right as the baby's father but legally there is more to it unfortunately.

Hey silly, no body is hitting head on a brick wall here.

You seems not to know the legal implication her actions. Department of Homeland Security are not that foolish to believes all her lies.

The man remains both the biological and legal father of that child.

All the guy need is a lot of legal work and time.

Outstrip:
Please you can scream it from the roof tops all you want. He cannot take that child anywhere. YOU ARE WRONG. As a matter of fact if he takes him out of state not even the country he will be in serious trouble. You can get all sentimental. What do you mean that she cannot tell him it is over over the phone. That ship already sailed. She already told him that. Even if he moved to the states and becomes a citizen today he still will not be able to walk into that house and get that kid. He might be able to see his child but if he goes there with that gra gra mentality I can almost say with no doubt that he might not see that child again until the child is 18.
I have a brother and we can never advice him to separate from his wife of a few years to go chase a degree in another country knowing that he will not see her again for two years. Please. I would hope my brother would not fall for that. If she decides to move on from my brother then she has the doggone right. Who the hell am I to tell her to stay married to him. I would love to have a relationship with my nephew and it would be on me to kiss backside to make it happen for my brother and my family if he is a position were he cannot live in a country legally.
If she says she is moving on what the heck do you want her to do. Say I am moving on and here is your son? That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. If at all he has sisters like you I would even advice her not to let any of you near the child because you seem like the kind of person that would kidnap that child if she lets him go to Nigeria to visit his dad.

Did you read what you wrote here.

You seems to be in support of that  lady's action.

So the modern  why to divoce your hubby is to travel to the US and make a phone call telling him you are not longer interested in the marriage.

Well for your information, her traveling document(PASSPORT, VISA, TICKET .et al) will indicates she is married.

And if her husband reports her to the US Embassy with necessary evidence. I can tell you that she is at the risk of being deported back to Nigeria.

Go and check the  conditions of getting a visa at the US Embassy in Nigeria.

Please tell me how shes gonna renew her VISA using her ex-hubby's SURNAME without proper divorce.

As for the kid he has the full right to contact the his child. And there is noting you can do about it.

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orbaxy:
T'is a no-good discussion. shouldnt be on the first page.

Why Nigeria?? even in the US, fathers strike daughters.

sometimes, argument between father/son or daughter can deteriorate so much so that tempers flay and restraints are lost.
Her father could have struck her for a million reasons. wait till you hear from him. I ain't saying is proper but girls of nowadays have lost it.
poo happens bro.

Thank you my  brother.

People just come online to bash Nigerians for everything.

A lot of White parents in UK hit their adult kids everyday.

While some Nigerians will never hit their kids.

The truth is that must parent are too protective of their kids, especially female ones for obvious reasons e.g unwanted pregnancy.

Outstrip:
He is the father of the child not the owner. He cannot go repossess the child like it is property. You need to read what this poster was responding to. Also I am not sure what an international lawyer can do for him. The child is not in danger. He obviously has the right to contact his child but he certainly cannot just walk into his wife's home and remove that child.

If you read my post very well. I said he has the right to contact [/b]his child, and no where did i use the word [b]repossess.

Who told you the child is not danger, does staying in US guarantees the safely of the child?

The fact that she left with baby and without the consent the father put the child in danger.

She do the right thing ;Get divorce and discuss child custody with the father.

ABBA, AND THEY CLAIM STUDYING IN US MAKE POEPLE REASON BETTER.

kadman:
Another silly advice (shakes my head).
Is he the OWNER of the child ? Thank God it's the US and they would give priority to the mother anyway.
Barbaric advice and way of thinking like this is what makes African women move to Western countries and flee and never want to go back home like Mrs Chima pointed out.

He is Father of the child and not the US GOV.

Even if the mother will be given priority, the father still has the right to contact his child.

Good International Lawyers can get the sorted out within mouths.

EVEN YOUR OBAMA STILL KNOWS HE HAS A FATHER  SOME WHERE IN KENYA.

@chaircover and Outstrip,

What are you blaming the man for, why are you twisting the story to make the man look bad.

Didn't you read where he said he supported her during her MASTERS.

If she wanted a divorce, she should be reasonable enoughs to come to NIGERIA and get divorce.She didn't marry in US for GOD sake.

What she is doing is absolutely illegal.

She cannot even marry if in the US if her traveling documents shows she is married in Nigeria.

Let her come and get divorce. Then she can move on.

Eko Ile:
How dumb can you be? So in your shallow mind, low cost have to be peanuts?

Don't you 1st have to convince the me what what the government is offering cost more than what the private market is offering?

Common sense should tell you that if what ever the government is offering cost less that what's available in the private sector, it's low cost.


How do you define low cost? Anything that cost 5 naira?





Ode,

See how you are FOOLING yourself online.

So if GOV. is offering cost less that what's available in the private sector, it's low cost.FOOOOOL

What if the private sector is offering less than what is available from the GOV. don't you think is possible?

Low Cost Housing is a concept which deals with effective budgeting and following of techniques which help in reducing the cost construction through the use of locally available materials along with improved skills and technology without sacrificing the strength, performance and life of the structure.

For any Public or Private project, Affordability should be the goal behind it.

If it is not affordable to the general masses, it is not low cost.

Go and do your research friend.

Arantius Nonsensical.

manny4life:
Can someone enlighten me because I'm a lil lost on this " low cost housing" scheme. How much is this housing supposedly costing the average buyer? What is the earned income threshold limit to be qualified for this house / to be able to qualify for a mortgage loan?

Let's look at this scenario assuming this is the best case scenario knowing this is quite unlikely. We can agree some of this number are higher than what I've quoted

A house cost $3,000,000 with a 30% deposit, mortgage instrument to finance the balance. The loan amount is N2,100,000 for a period of 10 years. If I plug in this number using the PMT function, mortgage monthly payment would be N23, 314 for the next 120 months. This seems affordable in the sense only if

1. The house is sold for N3,000,000 or less (including any discounts) but we know this couldn't be the case due to the fact the govt might not be willing to write off losses on its balance sheets.

2. At an APR of 6% which we know this figure is way more than that, and the govt will not be anymore willing to embark on bad debt loans in case of defaults hence the reason why it will defer it to partnered commercial banks who take the risk and charge higher interest rate.

3. The term of the loan is 10 years but we can agree most Nigerian banks would like shorter terms due to risk assessment increasing the monthly payment

4. The higher the cost of the house, the higher the deposit, and even if the deposit is financed through a bank, that's a higher debt obligation as well.

Now the real question is, if everything remains equal and someone makes a payment of N23, 314 monthly (insurance, maintenance, etc isn't included), how much is the average qualifier making monthly. Using the highest assumption that 50% of your monthly income goes into mortgage, buyer must be making at least N46, 628. We know this can't be the case, knowledge and experience, at most no more than 25% of your net income should be reserved for your rent/mortgage.

Bottom line is that unless someone is making at least 65k with the above assumptions, it's way impossible.

GOOD BLESS YOU

@ Eko Ile

Their is no low cost housing in LAGOS.

PERIOD .GOOD NIGHT.

WATCH PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE HERE.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-625329.192.html#msg7935853

GEJ IS FOLLOWING PDP SCRIP   . HE SIMPLY LACK CONFIDENCE.

Even OBJ with his funny  voice as  has more confidence.

And this MAN is a PHD holder.

YET HE RUNNING AWAY FROM A PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE.

El Guapo:
Hmmn. . . Many GEJ haterz

Too bad to note that Buhari got all ya brains incapacitated

MY BROTHER I AM VOTING. FOR GEJ ANY DAY.

But for publicists and PR angle Dbanj should not be interviewing GEJ. It shows lack of seriousness and credibility.

I will prefare a young broadcasters/Journalists.

THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE IS GOING ON BUT MY GEJ IS NOT THERE.

My friends, nobody is hating Dbanj or GEJ.

But Dbanj is not a broadcaster,talk show host or Journalist.

Dbanj is a musician, if he was invited to sing for GEJ that ok i will enjoy it.

But interviewing THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA? NO way

We have  younger  broadcasters and Journalists that can do a better job even in the same SILVERBIRD TV.

That interview was totally mess up. An whoso ever planed that Interview should be sacked.

President Goodluck Jonathan is an Academic Doctor for God sake. He should allow this Shenanigans destroy his political ambition.

This man dey fall my hand badly.

Eko Ile:
This is not an argument, this is correction and education.

Like I said, I'm not interested in Silly and ignorant trash talk, mine was to bust your lies and educate and I did just that, you can have your trash talk with other people.

You lied about the state not building low cost housing and I corrected you with facts

You lied about the info coming from the governor's website and I also corrected you with facts


You are entitled to your silly and market women talk about Fashola and Lagos state, just not to lies.

Learn your lesson and quit lying, lying is evil and liars don't prosper.

Well MR HOT HEAD, Eko Ile.

You are the liar here.

Why don't read the topic MR BLIND BAT it say "Fashola Promises Low Cost Houses"

And i stressed that there are no "LOW COST HOUSES IN LAGOS" as at now.

Then your deranged self start searching the web looking for "Fashola Low Cost Houses".

And after doing your paste and copy and paste of some website here. I still told you that those are not low cost house.

Then your lazy mind resorted in calling names and insults.

I have told you b4 and i am telling again come to Lagos Nigeria and make enquirers about those "Fashola Low Cost Houses".

But you insisted on staying online and throwing insults. GOOD FOR YOU.

YOUNG MAN IT SHOWS YOU IN SELF DECEPTION. YOU SIMPLY DO NOT LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH.

Eko Ile:
After trashing your mindless lies, now it's not low cost is your new goal post. What is it then? High cost housing scheme.


Now you're sound low and pathetic.

Is this a government website ?

Now you see how dumb and ignorant you sound again?

I don't know why it's so hard for people to just admit that they lied, instead, they compound their lies with more stupidity and ignorance.

It's only ignoramus like you that go about peddling lie to people about gov. projects.

First claim of LOW COST HOUSING in Lekki has being debunked .

Now its IGBOGBO .

Well that IKORODU project is not LOW COST I have been there.

You can call Alusa to get the actual cost of those properties.

Man your WAHALA TOO MUCH.

NA YOU BE FASHOLA SPOKES MAN?

Well i enjoy arguing with u.

LUDALOOLO:
[size=20pt][/size]. @ all believe this, there will never be change in Nigeria in the next 100 years. Police are illiterate who knows not what they are employed to do, all they are after is there pocket. Fela said it btw 1975 and 1977 thing will never get better in Nigeria. Check today Nigeria is not a better place. Eko o ni baje they have been using this slogan since 1970. People nobody will fight for you, If you want freedom you have to fight for it. Your vote does not count. There is nothing anyone can do to stop PDP from winning the presidential election cos the election is going to be rigged, Even if no one vote you will get result from every area. If you don't believe me. Ask everyone in your area not to vote, then let see if there will be result of vote from your area or not. There will never be a change in Nigeria. All the politician are the same.

Must senior police officers are university graduate, and i happen to know lot of lawyers among them.

I you join them today, you will do the-same thing.

I called "POWER OF WEARING UNIFORM".

KAI, LATSMA, VIO and all other uniform wearing agents in Lagos harass people everyday.



They are just a reflection of the larger society.

Eko Ile:
I'm not interested in your redundant argument about cost and I didn't quote you based on that nonsense, mine was to educate and [b]dispel your ignorant and misguided insinuation that you're yet to see any Low cost housing project in Lagos especially in the last 5 years [/b]and you also asked to be educated and I did just that.

Your 25 years in Lagos don't mean much if at the end of the day, you still don't know much about the state you call home and get on the internet to brag about.

And I didn't quote any gov. website for info, Happy Lagosian is not a government website, but they do follow and document the state's policies and activities, something like you refused to do before peddling lies and rumors all over the place like market women. Even sef, it makes no difference because it's there and pictures don't lie.

Just to let you know, I enjoy setting people like you straight,

My friend enough of your rants.

The houses in that estate are not for Low- Middle class income earners , or can you give me your own definition of LOW COST HOUSING .

You claim you didn't quote any gov. website but the informations on the site are copied directly from a Lagos state gov. website.

FASHOLA is still the best governor in Nigeria to-date no contest . But that low cost housing stuff is a lie.

All governmental houses in Lagos are expensive.

Only PPP with the private sector can reduce the housing problem in Lagos.

My People Pastor Bakare is 100% correct. Even FASHOLA KNOWS THAT.

Tinubu is a pure corrupt chameleon. He knows how to play the game .

The only treat to him(Tinubu) in Lagos is FASHOLA.

And that is the only Man i am voting for even if he(FASHOLA) leaves ACN.

Eko Ile:
You need to make it a point to start following the state's activities and educate yourself,

You seem to need that Education yourself.

I can see you run about the web looking for information on FASHOLA LOW COST HOUSES

Please tell me the Houses on that site are less than #3 million.

You claim to be educated and you are quoting a governmental website for information.

My friend, come to Lagos and do you research . Let them show you the actual price of the properties.