₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
If you want to believe that , OK..

So with all your rant on this forum, you don't know whether the Gospel of Christ is being preached by you or not.

Nor can you point to a specific individual or congregation(s) that is/are doing so despite your vast knowledge in the God's law

Kobojunkie:
Who knows? I have yet to notice their light so I still can't say for sure where they are.

That means you're not preaching the Gospel of Christ or are you part of the false teachers?

Kobojunkie:
The Gospel has yet to be preached to all the ends of the world.

So who is preaching the gospel today that'll make it reach end of the world?

AntiChristian:
Abeg clear my English o!

How Muslim dey knack head and how did Jesus knack hin own?

Muslims hit their head on the ground while all the scriptures you've cited say "fell with face (bowing down)" if simple comprehension isn't an issue for you, then you should the two acts are different.

You can google the picture of how people bowing down their faces and compare with what Muslims do.

Olamak1:
It's not compulsory you must have up to $1 as balance. My account balance was less than $.70 as at last week before I did a card top up.

How much does gotok charge per transaction?

saky18:
There is really no way to choose. But if use AliExpress Standard Shipping, most likely it will be through speedaf.

Thanks

saky18:
Some items arrived Nigeria as far back as 21st of April, but they were not cleared because of the strike.

Thank God there is a new update now. Clearing of goods has resumed.

How did you choose speedaf on AliExpress as your shipping company?

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar
This might be how life was created...electrical discharge through some gadamnnn rocks and boom evolution and metamorphosis follows and we beings grow gradually large into the human size we are seeing today

Humans were never created by one imaginary being up there in the sky called God

This process can never create life.

As long a process like this can't create ordinary silicon wafer which is the basic components for all microprocessor.

Gbagura:
Seems aliexpress has stopped combining orders. 8 of my items were shipped at the same time as economy but instead for them to combine them, they were shipped individually to Nigeria though I've received them all but I'm curious as to why they stopped or my case was different.

Another observation is that 3 of my items has stuck at airport in China since last 6 days. Am I the one having this issue?

Please do you use shipping company or through normal NIPOST?

I need to order something from AliExpress but the last time I did it was through NIPOST, so I don't know if things have changed.

MaxInDHouse:
Let's just say our God differs from yours!

Of course I didn't dispute that but stop twisting the inspired word of our God.

A happy person doesn't keep malice with others {Matthew 18:22} our God is a happy person {1Timothy 1:11} He won't keep malice for long with the creatures of His own hands {Genesis 6:3}

1. But the same God is a consuming fire Hebrew 12:29
2. The same God visited the iniquity of the father on the son even on to the fourth generation.
3. The same God is the one who is angry with the wicked everyday.

Besides, you're the one accusing God of keeping malice.

The scripture says God is the God of justice and bringing judgement to the wicked reason why Jesus says NLT - “Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons."

If God will send people to the same place where devil will be, definitely it will be eternally because even you believe devil is a spirit and can die.

after He has taken away the breath that keeps them living! Ecclesiastes 12:7

Smile....see twisting.

God says the spirit returned to Him not that He took it away. Or you know more than God?

Which means the spirit exist after death.

Stop following the tradition of men

MaxInDHouse:
God has a program and that is for OBEDIENT humans to enjoy life to the fullest on this planet {Genesis 1:28}

You don't need to remind me!

rebellious humans will become a menace on the planet so they will die and return to non-existence {Genesis 2:17}

No! Return to God Eccl 12:6-7 "Yes, remember your Creator now while you are young, before the silver cord of life snaps and the golden bowl is broken. Don’t wait until the water jar is smashed at the spring and the pulley is broken at the well. For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it."

but Adam rebelled before giving birth to a child so all his descendants inherited sin and death from him! Romans 5:12

Says the holy scripture

God has no business with evildoers all He will do to them is eviction and that's to keep the planet safe for obedient mankind not keeping them somewhere to be tormented!

But Jesus says otherwise, I know you're the liar here and not Jesus.

The dead has no business with God but out of His underserved kindness (grace) he made a provision for good people to be recalled {Job 14:13-15} but as for evildoers Ecclesiastes 9:6 applies to them! Psalms 9:17

I know you'll Change mouth I talk am.
So Eccl 9:6 is applied to ONLY the evildoers and not good people

You need more lies to cover up a lie.

Meanwhile, the same Job 14:15 says "You will call and I will answer you; you will long for the creature your hands have made."

So how can non existence or complete dead person will hear when someone called?

When will you stop changing gear from your state of confusion?

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa He destroyed that city not just humans that's what He meant @ Jeremiah 7:31.

Olodo....
Jer 7:13 is about sacrificing human on altar

But God used fire to do that.

He said tormenting humans (alive) in fire has not come into His heart.

So the people burnt to death won't be torment before they got burnt to ashes

The inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed along with all their properties, farmlands and domestic animals. So thinking God will now sustain humans in torment after death has destroyed their bodies is unscriptural!

As usual you lack simple comprehension.

Your initial point is that God can't torment people forever with fire but if God can use fire to destroyed a whole city, why can't God torment people with it?

That's where you left your brain.

If Jesus say he never came to condemn the prophets then i can't believe that what he said there is literal since no prophet has ever taught that the dead can experience anything! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

To condemned is different from enlighten.

Jesus elaborates more on Moses teachings.
Jesus clarified issues with old prophets teachings.

So you don't know what you're saying.

Besides, Eccl 9:5-10 is against you but I know you'll still change mouth.

Eccl 9:5 "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten."

1. The dead has no further reward but you believe after you died Jehovah will reward you.
2. Their names are forgotten but you believe those who died and will be resurrected their names are in Jehovah memory.

Which side are you?

Janosky:
John 3:16, Jesus Christ see's everlasting life for JWs and destruction for evildoers but Emusan see's perpetual torture.
Emusan sadist.
Kai !!!!

So John 3:16 is for jws

Emusan Were you inside with them to know they gnashing their teeth till today?

Jesus who knows more than you says you and your cohort will be inside furnace of fire with gnashing teeth

Emusan,I thought God gave you brain but there is no evidence you have one.

For me to be replying shows I have brain but you forgot yours with those lying 8 men.

Empty RANTS of a deluded WAILER ;

Take your pain reliever Janosense.

Janosky:
MUMU ,empty RANT.
Dundee, only your brain dey see chicken for Nairaland.

Brain dead Janosense at it again.

MaxInDHouse:
There's nowhere in the Old Testament that say those destroyed are somewhere being tormented after death

But my point is God used fire on people

So why do you think the same God can't torment people with fire?

so Jesus was teaching in parables.

Of course the only twisting of jws, if it's not parable it will be figurative

At death the body (bones) of the dead routine in the grave so they can't possibly gnash teeth (bone)

You know more than Jesus

Janosky:
Fire destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

The city/ people no more exist, burnt to ashes, they did not experience everlasting torture.
Emusan, can you now RECEIVE SENSE?

Mr no sense has started again.

But the same God rained down fire on Sodom and Gomarrah.

How hard is it for you nuthead to understand that?

Janosky:
When Emusan is thrown into the burning furnace, will Emusan gnash his teeth forever?

Of course Emusan can't be part of that because he is born of God, the people the place suitable for are people like you and your lie lie jws.

When king Nebuchadnezzar's servants where thrown into the burning furnace (meant for Abednego & friends) are those servants gnashing their teeth today?

Were you inside with them to know they didn't gnashing their teeth?

Emusan,What did fire do to those servants?

The fire dressed them as king.

Hellfire scam robbed your brain.

Remember, you're the one who donated your brain for the lying 8 old men.

MaxInDHouse:
God killed those in Noah's days with a flood, killed the firstborn in Egypt, killed Egyptian soldiers in the red sea, killed 185,000 Assyrian soldiers.
None says He was TORMENTING the living but destroyed them!

So your Jer 7:31 doesn't apply here then.

because no where in Jer 7:31 that says God won't torment people with fire.

But here is a direct statement from Jesus about torment with fire.

Matthew 13:50 "and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Was Jesus talking about the living or non existence being?

MaxInDHouse:
You keep telling yourself a lie blindly instead of finding out what Jesus taught in his mother's language. It's like someone speaking to his own people using idioms and proverbs familiar to his listeners then a stranger tries to interpret only to end up giving a totally different picture of what the original speaker wanted to inculcate in the minds of his listeners.
Well continue dreaming about your torment after death at least the true God has declared that tormenting people in fire has never come up to His heart {Jeremiah 7:31} perhaps you can force it down His throat since that is what your own religion teaches!

"They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind." Jer 7:31

But the same God rained down fire on Sodom and Gomarrah. You think the fire won't torment the people before destroying them

Definitely you don't understand the content of that Jer 7:31

Janosky:
Whereas your fellow Trinitarians OLAADEGBU, Emusan continue to give a totally different conflicting report they received from your holy ghost.


Their own Jesus was raised as a human being. Them go quote Matt Slick tire, their super Daddy.

You were asked a very vital question, as usual you couldn't answer but to be dancing around like headless chicken.


When will you receive sense?

Cybertroll:
Tell me, what's your proof God exists? Kindly do so without quoting the Bible or Quran.

Thank you!

OAM4J

Kobokunkie
MaxInDHouse
TenQ
DtruthSpeaker

Try to watch this video "Conception_to_birth_--_visualized___Alexander_Tsiaras"

After that let's discuss!

Kobojunkie:
You are still struggling as far as comprehension of what Jesus Christ is telling you.

But the evidence of person who lacks simple comprehension here is you.

Jesus Christ said divorce was not allowed in the beginning — when God made the world. However, after man rejected God's teaching i.e. man fell — Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 — God not only washed His hands off marriage, but divorce then became an option in marriage. Hence the reason why in His Law of Moses, God granted the people divorce. I hope this is still not over your head cause I am done with this.

You're the one claiming someone add to the law of God but where did God say he washed his hands off marriage?

Yet after all these God still says "He hates Divorce"

Jesus Christ never said in His Law and Gospel that divorce is a sin, for good reason.

But he teaches that you can only divorce on sexual sin outside this can you divorce?

We do not live in the time of the beginning when God first created the world, but rather we continue to live in the world after man's fall — when God washed His hands off marriage entirely— and it is equally for this reason that the same Jesus Christ proclaimed that marriage is of the world and not of the Kingdom of God meaning God's judgment against marriage from the beginning remains intact even for those in the Kingdom of God(Law).

Where in the scripture did God told you He washed His hands off marriage?

My question you're still dodging is, outside sexual sin, can you divorce?

And if one divorce without sexual sin, what has happened?

You shove your own words into God's mouth when you add your own laws to His Law where He has commanded that no man do so.

At least I'm not the one, who says God has washed his hands off marriage.

Jesus Christ wasn't being foolish by not listing divorce as a sin in God's New Law. No, He in fact meant that it isn't sin even in God's New Law. You suggesting that it should amounts to adding to God's Law and that is antiChrist.

Can you divorce outside sexual sin?

Why are you dodging this simple question if you know what you're saying?

God says "He hates Divorce" when Jesus came, did God later say He now likes divorce?

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ said that in reference to the beginning, before the fall of man- Matthew 19 vs 1 - 8 makes that clear since it was also the time when God made the world and still His hand in marriage. The beginning is a reference to when God made the world.

Which means DIVORCE was not ALLOWED by God.

That's the point of Jesus, did divorce do outside sexual sin a sin?

2. Jesus Christ never said this which you claim. Rather what He said is that Moses allowed men to divorce because men refused to accept God's teaching. Which of God's teachings did men refuse to accept? Care to guess?

Look at the @color

If men ACCEPTED God's teaching, would they divorce? Which means DIVORCE isn't what God endorsed. Definitely, divorce is a sin done outside sexual sin.

3. God says He hates divorce but the same God is recorded to have allowed divorce in His Old Covenant — recall that God is the one who gave His Law to the people of Israel through Moses and not that Moses came up with those laws on His own—, and even proclaimed of how He, at one point, divorced Israel — Jeremiah 3. Try to read passages in context so you can better understand what God is in fact saying to you.

Jesus has already clarified reason why God ALLOWED and Jesus point was that IT WASN'T LIKE THAT FROM THE BEGINNING which means DIVORCE is a sin reason why GOD HATES IT.

4. Keep your yoke to yourself because it is to blame for why you feel it is OK to add to God's Law a definition to sin that God Himself never included. The rule is "Do not add, remove or change any of that stipulated in God's Law". Suggesting, by way of these musings of your mind, that divorce ought to be a sin when Jesus Christ Himself never did stipulate it as such amounts to shoving your own rules into God's own mouth, what religion is known for.

Smile..
Who is adding to God's law btw me and you?

You quoted scripture where Jesus clarified the issue of divorce but you still went ahead to twist it.

Lastly, the scripture boldly says "God hates Divorce" is what God hate a sin or not?

The yoke of religion on you.

Kobojunkie:
These musings of yours aside, Jesus Christ never said anywhere in His Gospel teachings that divorce, in and of itself, is sin, so what part of that are you having a hard time comprehending?

Jesus Christ never in fact says anywhere in His Gospel that those who divorce are guilty of sin or of adultery. Understand that and you will maybe come close to realizing the needlessness of what you are going on about.

But Jesus said:


1. Divorce was not ALLOWED from beginning in His gospel.

2. Those who divorce are allowed because they didn't follow the TEACHING OF GOD in His gospel.

Lastly, God says "He hates Divorce" will Jesus contradict God on divorce issue?

You haven't answered this question, why?

The yoke of religion is on you.

Kobojunkie:
Is it that you can't read or what? Again, In the Gospels, Jesus Christ does not teach that divorce is a sin. Instead, He speaks instead of remarriage being a potential sin for those already divorced, and even those about to marry for the first time.
■ Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32

■ Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9

■Mark 10 vs 10- 12

■ Luke 16 vs 18
Jesus Christ never said anywhere in His Gospel teachings that divorce, in and of itself, is sin, so what part of that are you having a hard time comprehending?

Smile....see boldness in arrogance.

Jesus said Divorce was not ALLOWED from beginning.

Jesus said those who divorce are allowed because they didn't follow the TEACHING OF GOD.

lastly, God says "He hates Divorce" will Jesus contradict God on divorce issue?

The yoke of religion is on you.

Kobojunkie:
This is what results when you let religion turn your ability to reason upside down.

Yet you that didn't let religion turn your reasoning ability upside down couldn't make use of it.

In the Gospels, Jesus Christ does not teach that divorce is a sin. Instead, He speaks instead of remarriage being a potential sin for those already divorced, and even those about to marry for the first time.
■ Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32

■ Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9

■Mark 10 vs 10- 12

■ Luke 16 vs 18


Divorce in and of itself is not a sin, so says Jesus Christ.

You're the very one who cited all these verses and you can still make the @bold statement, so pathetic.

From the scripture you cited, we can infer that:
1. People who ACCEPT God's teaching aren't supposed to divorce because “Moses allowed you to divorce your wives because you refused to accept God’s teaching." Question: is it a sin to reject God's teaching or not?

2. Divorce should not happen EXCEPT for sexual sin. So what happened when divorce is based on what is not sexual sin?

3. God says "He hates Divorce" - Malachi 2:16

So does doing what God hate is a sin or not?

Janosky:
Ok.

Yeah!

No.
Emusan is wrong.
My point is Scriptural & correct because Jesus Christ is led by the same holy spirit which inspired Ecclesiastics 9:5,10.

We're on your point that Jesus liking Death to sleep, so does a sleeping person conscious or not?

John 11:11-14
Did Jesus say Lazarus was conscious and moving in the grave before Jesus raised him?
No.

But you claimed Jesus liking Death to sleep.

So why are you contradicting yourself?

John 11:23 Jesus told her, “Your brother will rise again.”
Jesus Christ says Emusan is wrong.
A conscious person has no need to rise.
Only the dead (asleep in death like Lazarus) will rise.

But you claimed Jesus liking Death to sleep.

Definitely you don't understand that Jesus statement.

Do someone who asleep conscious or not?

John 11:23, Jesus Christ confirming Lazarus was not conscious in the grave.

But you claimed Jesus liking Death to sleep.

Or is someone who sleep not conscious?

Ecclesiastes 9:5,19 & John 11:23 are inspired by holy spirit.
This doctrine is holy scriptures confirmed.

I know you can jump like kangaroo but focus on your point here.

Jesus liking Death to sleep

So does a sleeping person conscious or not?

And there's no confusion with God, so Jesus can't liking death to sleep when he knows a sleeping person is conscious within him/herself.

Janosky:
John 11:11-14.
"Then he said, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but now I will go and wake him up.”

12 The disciples said, “Lord, if he is sleeping, he will soon get better!” 13 They thought Jesus meant Lazarus was simply sleeping, but Jesus meant Lazarus had died.

14 So he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead."

Right scripture!

Jesus Christ views death as sleep.

But the person who is asleep still conscious.

If Jesus truly views death as sleep then your below point is empty.

Sleeping persons in Hades (the grave) can not speak to themselves.

But sleeping person is conscious and move body parts.

Jesus said a parable NOT a factual event.

But every Jesus parable has reality connection.

Therefore your doctrine is a fraud.

Have you checked your own doctrine?

Bubu4Sea:
Their founder like RCCG, winners, HouseOnRock, Dunamis, Ibeyomie are all freemasons

Can you provide your facts like the OP is doing?

Jokanem:
Misconception: Jesus taught infant baptism by saying that the Kingdom belongs to young children.​—Matthew 19:13-​15; Mark 10:13-​16.

Fact: Jesus was not discussing baptism when he said those words. Instead, he was showing that those who would qualify for the Kingdom of God must be childlike​—meek and teachable. ​—Matthew 18:4; Luke 18:16, 17.

If those who are qualified for the kingdom of God should be CHILD-LIKE, how come your religious leader still claimed children are enemies of God?

sonmvayina:
Are you admitting that the Christians made it up..

And that it is paganism/human sacrifice which God forbids?

But you claimed you have Bible

sonmvayina:
I have...

I did not see any where it said so...

Can you point me to it...

I am still learning..

Since you can't see it then it's ok!