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MaxInDHouse:
What convinced you that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah (Christ) God promised Israel?

Of course if you can't explain or proof how Jesus is the promised Messiah to a Jew then you can't question JWs who claimed Jesus returned in 1914!

@underlined is my point.

Jws CLAIMED it, that's all!

Aemmyjah:
Nameless 'body of Christ'
Nothing meaningful

So Jesus named 'body of Christ' another name Ko?

to contribute
It was not Christian that compiled the INFORMATION Bible

So it was compiled by JWs Ko

It was not Christian that 'coined' the name Jehovah as if we are the only ones that call in that name

I know watchtower has hidden that knowledge from many of you but you can Google it so that you'll stop embarrassing yourself publicly.

There was nothing like JWs in that time but International Bible students

That's nice! That means JWs only started few years ago, then not the lie your brothers have been lying.

If I ignore you completely
You're useless on the forum completely

See ignorance, you that can't even proud of your tiny brain but always claim bro max post is causing you headache bla bla...

Should I list many JWs on this forum who has come and gone and I'm still here gidigba?

MaxInDHouse:
Please how are you sure that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah (Christ)?

The question should have been, where does 1914 belong in the Bible?

Because majority of the Jews till today don't agree with Jesus' disciples that the young man from Nazareth is the Messiah God promised their forefathers!

Yes!

Does this justify JWs claiming to know what ONLY the Father knows?

Aemmyjah:
Lol
They'll mention my name and try to paint the organization dark

Organisation!

Anyways, we're the body of Christ.

Without JWs, they are useless

So JWs is the one running Nairaland

A parasite cannot live in its own without the host
And he has no use to himself or other hosts
Continue

The day JWs disassociate themselves from Christian they will stop being the parasite.

Christian compiled the Bible
Christian coined the name Jehovah
C.T Russell was tutor by a Christian before JWs corrupted his teachings.

Aemmyjah:
Tell us your church or keep quiet
I can't stop you from saying nonsense
Where is your church?
Just the name

The big questions one can ask are, was this thread about Jws in the first place?

And the answer is a capital NO!

So, how then did it become JWs thread?

And: because they always want to spread their lies.

Now, you're asking about his church

achorladey:
Mumu peddler did I ask you

TKO

The name of one your brother in Jehovah says is cursed by Jehovah and bastardize by those you call false Christians.

Maybe he didn't know, if not he wouldn't have attached that to himself.

Their Nairaland Pastor has put them in tight corner.

Janosky:
Emusan DECEIVING himself while his fellow Trinitarians confessed (in screenshots) their chronic devotion to Babalawos & shamanic shrines.

The Janosense the self deceiver is here...

They are JWs who doesn't believe in the power of God for healing

Gbogbo Babalawo patronizer

PeterObi4Presid:
I have noticed JW breed many self-righteous Christians, though they have some good doctrines, and outwardly decent way of life, their good doctrine is however also mixed with a lot of half-truths. I will touch on their total rejection of anything present day Prophecy

I love your choice of words at @underlined.

As per the topic, you have said it all and that's why they prefer visiting Babalawo (Herbalist) for healing instead of turning to Jesus "whom by His stripe we are healed"

I only have the OP to discuss with on this thread yet parading the same thread up and down like boyscout

See the receipt down here!

achorladey:
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”



That's what other Christian denominations have been doing before your religious organization came into existence +/-140 years ago

And instead of being Jesus' witness by following His commandment they decided to go against the very Jesus they're lying to follow by Witnessing for Jehovah.

Aemmyjah:
Torments

It's in you

achorladey:
I hope that man never enter drinking joint to type that

You're not far from the truth

stevo123:
I want us to discuss this teaching, because I can see that this teaching are really misleading youths of these days...

Well not only youth will be misled but many who don't know how to study their Bible.

Let me say some pastor says. When you follow the instructions of our lord Jesus Christ you go to heaven, but if you did not you go to hell...

This is the first misconception, "Pastor says..."

Did you confirm what the Pastor says with the scripture?

Jesus Himself says "People will be going to hell" so not what any pastor says on his/her own.

Firstly: The book of ECCLESIASTES 12: vs 7 says . And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

My question on this is; where is this thing Ghost come in. Cuz I believe when the body which is the dust returns to the earth, and the spirit which is the air we are breathing returns to God. Then what form the Ghost...

Spirit isn't air! Reason why scientists haven't known the nature of spirit but air nature is known.

So when the Bible says Spirit returned to God, Yes! That's how it is and it's only God through His righteous judgement decided the final abode for the evil spirits that returned to Him.

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Many verses in the scripture that boldly speak about Hell Fire:

Matthew 13:50 - "and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 18:8 - “If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire."

Matthew 25:41 - “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;"

Matthew 18:9 - "If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell."

Luke 16:24 - "And he cried out and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.’

Mark 9:48 - "where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched."

The only excuse to reject all these verses, is if you decided to make them say what they didn't say. Without anybody confusing you, if you happen to read these verses ON YOUR OWN as an educated person, what will be your conclusion?

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Secondly: The book of revelation 21 vs 1. Says
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

In this bible verse we never heard that there was a New hell fire or the First hell fire.

Actually, the same revelation Revelation 20:14 - "Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire." spoke about Hell being cast into the lake of fire.

So, those who claims Hell means grave. Can the grave cast into the lake of fire?

If grave to be cast into the lake of fire then it means the whole earth will be inside.

So are we saying it is the devil that create Hell fire? Because I believe if it is God that create Hell fire, then there should be a New hell fire.

No! Devil didn't create anything.

Instead the Bible made it clear that He'll fire was created for the Devil.

Matthew 25:41 - “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;"

PLEASE YOUR OPINION ON THIS 🙏🙏🙏

Don't let anyone deceive you.

Take Jesus own statement above any misleading interpretation.

When they want to deceive you, they say what Jesus says are not literal. Can you imagine that lie?

Fisiryorh:
Alaye, Jesus is not God..

Jesus is God

Jesus always made reference to His Father in all situations..

Yes! Just as your father is human like you is also human.

My father has many mansions...

My father, My father. Why have thou forsaken me...

Very correct.

During his baptism, a voice came down from heaven saying "this is my son, in whom I am well pleased"...

God is omnipresent don't forget!

Jesus, at no point ever claimed divinity neither did he say nor the bible say he is God..

Jesus didn't come to the world to claim divinity but many Bible references shows who He was before becoming part of the world.

Aemmyjah:
Ok.
Stop tormenting yourself and go to bed

You see the reason why JWs number of mental disorder is increasing daily.

I should go to bed when men at work...

Lazy JWs!

MaxInDHouse:
That's the one and only reason they will come in to talk: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Let JWs stop talking and you won't see them here again, they have nothing tangible to say!

Self delusion!

Before Nairaland religion section was separated with Islam section everyone on religion section discusses with few JWs.

When the religion section separated with virtually no JWs many topics are created and people discuss it.

Even if all JWs today do meeting and leave Nairaland, people here will still continue to create different topics and discuss religion.

So I challenge you to inform your fellow deluded brothers to leave Nairaland just for 1 Week (even though I know you can't try it as you don't have life outside Nairaland) maybe we'll be here again or not.

Aemmyjah:
I understand that you're tormented by JWs. I enjoy your attention. Keep crying

The day I'll be tormented by JWs is the Devil wins but remember he has been defeated over 2000years ago.

That is why the Body of Christ keeps growing according to Jesus John 15:2

MaxInDHouse:
The same reason i believe it's just two persons using multiple accounts!

Lying liar!

You claimed it was Holy Spirit who told you.

See him changing mouth

Aemmyjah:
U quoted me and it's not a problem but I did same and I'm pained?

Can you point out the part in my post where it indicates that I complaint about you quoting my post?

Your reply to my post shows you're pained. Get that into your tiny brain.

Ur head needs urgent attention

Check the mental disorder among JWs then you'll know who needs more urgent attention.

MaxInDHouse:
That's why i decided not to respond to any of them on this thread, apart from the OP you're the only one that matters here, the OP asked a question let them respond if they have anything worthwhile to contribute but tagging me to quench their thirst it won't work for them!

You're not responding to them yet you keep parading the same thread even when OP has stopped engaging you since yesterday.

See the receipt down

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Which other way will you be aware

That was the reason you have to quote the same post twice. Definitely, something is wrong somewhere

Who tagged who first?

I quoted you first, any problem with that?

But the new question is who lost his mind first?

Delusional person

Says the worshiper of the lying old men in Brooklyn

Aemmyjah:

From someone who has nothing to contribute?

If you're not pained and I have nothing to contribute, you won't have quoted my post twice.

Aemmyjah:

He has nothing to contribute to the group than chase after the wind and spread lies.

You can point out the lie in my post.

Last time I checked, it was your Bro Max who lied against The Holy Spirit of God

I under the envy you have in your heart is too much

What type of grammar is this?

Don't worry, Bro Max will come and remove it for you

When he hasn't removed the delusion your organisation imposed on him

Aemmyjah:
The stupid one knows where to find stupid answers to stupid questions. From himself

You are pained!

Eyah sorry oooo

Kobojunkie:
1. I never set out to affirm the claim, mind you, as it mattered little to me whether they did or not. Again, when it comes to Jesus Christ, what matters is obedience to His teachings and commandments — that is what those who love Him do ALWAYS.

Did apostles congragate or not?

You want to deny what's inside the very Bible you hold.

2. I don't know of any law which bars Jesus Christ from offering up in a vision, messages to those in certain locations. What I do know however is the same Jesus Christ made clear that the Kingdom of God is not by location, so wherever you are is where His Kingdom and connection to you is. As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ warned His followers against paying heed to men who would come claiming that God or even the Messiah is to be found at a certain location or place.
God is not found in your church buildings or your locations.

But Jesus wrote letters to the seven churches and we know early believers congregated.

3. For the umpteenth time, those who love Jesus Christ are those who trust and obey His teachings and commandments. And Yes, the sheep are born-agains whom Jesus Christ assigned His followers to feed and care for(literally) - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 40.

So the early apostles and believers don't trust and obey Jesus teaching and commandments.

Just say you know more than the very Jesus apostles who walked with Jesus.

4. But Jesus Christ never said "Trust and obey my disciples or followers." He was insistent that you trust and obey Him and only Him. So? I am not sure why you keep lifting the servant up as if to replace the master when Jesus Christ assured you that the servant is not greater than the master - John 13:16 & John 15:20.

But Jesus chooses them, He appeared to them after resurrection.

So you can't know more than the early apostles of Jesus Himself who walked with Him side by side.

And from the scripture, the shepherds are the believers.

achorladey:
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From the fingers and mouth of the same person who told us his Jehovah cursed the name Christian since it was bastardized and gave them a new one

Many problems for insanities peddling peddler

Can you imagine that?

Maybe Jehovah has purified the name again, you know they don't fail to see new light

MaxInDHouse:
@ crows2ravens i'm only interested in you so if you feel we should end the conversation let me know.

@crows2ravens I just want to inform you that this lying JWs said Holy Spirit told him that I Emusan is the same person with @Johnw47 & @OLAADEGBU here on Nairaland.

Just know that Holy Spirit of God who is the spirit of truth can't lie or inspired lies.

As I Emusan never operates 2 not to talk of 3 accounts since I joined Nairaland over 10 years ago.

So just know the spirit who lives in someone who can lie against the Holy Spirit of God.

MaxInDHouse:
The Catholic Church has nothing common with the first century Christian congregation!

But it's the same Catholic that formulated the name "Jehovah" you're using today

It was after the death of Jesus' apostles that Satan established the Roman Catholic Church using the apostates that left the faith due to the way the apostles protected the congregation not allowing members to venture into politics.

So Jesus failed to fulfill His promise of Matt 28:20 "and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

MindHacker9009:
Okay question number
1. Why did Jesus appear during the time of Roman occupation of Isreal when Rome took the Jews away as slaves?
2. Why is the capital of Christianity in Rome and not Isreal?
3. Why were the sites of Jesus Christ discovered 300 years after his ministry?
4. Why does the New Testament say: Slaves obey and fear your earthly master like they should fear Christ, when slaves are treated better in the Old Testament.
Should the New Testament not say that those keeping slaves are going to hell?

All the questions he asked you, you couldn't provide just one single answer only for you to use questions to answer questions

Na wa ooo

Kobojunkie:
1. First thing first, Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who do as He commands — not even as He did. So, if you are asking me whether Jesus Christ called you to do as the disciples were written to have done, then I suggest you explain to yourself who your true master is.

At least you can't deny that the early apostles who actually the ones Jesus Himself picked congregated.

I love that.

2. Jesus Christ told you that the Kingdom of God — God's special Nation of Priests — is inside of you and all around you, so why are you going off looking for a place to find it at?

Jesus wrote letters to the seven churches in Revelation

If there's no congregation, how could Jesus do that?

3. The command "Feed my Sheep" was in reference to the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven Matthew 25 vs 31 - 40 which Jesus Christ promised to give to Peter and His other disciples.

"So guard yourselves and God’s people. Feed and shepherd God’s flock—his church, purchased with his own blood[h]—over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as leaders." Acts 20:28

The sheep are actually people in Christ.

4. Again, you would have to ask Paul why he supposedly wrote what he did. I obey Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ made clear that He alone is a Teacher, Shepherd, Master/Head, Authority/Leader, and Helper to all who belong to Him. Jesus Christ is my Lord and so to Him alone I heed.

Paul received His writtens from Christ.

Or you don't believe Christ Himself chosen Paul?

5. An antichrist is simply one who rejects the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ all while using the same name of Jesus Christ to offer up alternative views/interpretations and ideas to counter that directly contravene Jesus Christ Himself. An Antichrist is an enemy on the inside kind of like the false teachers and false prophets, and their gullible followers.

But this is you in picture.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus never said the number of casualties during wars will determine the sign of the end rather he gave us a composite sign:

There will be wars, food shortages, pestilences, false prophets spreading false religious beliefs everywhere, lawlessness that will make many become faithless (atheists), betrayal even among Jesus' true disciples and the preaching of the good news of God's Kingdom will be well organized throughout the earth as a group is zealously and industriously campaigning for God's Kingdom globally! Matthew 24:7-14

And all this started from 1914

So when we say 1914 there has never been a time on this planet that the composite sign is noticed globally as written in that Bible book!

This shows that 1914 was ignorantly chosen by your leaders and has nothing to do with scripture.

Are you saying Jesus failed to organize his group and equip them for the work his assigned to them?

Jesus didn't rather we see example of how Jesus treated every one claiming to belong to Him in Revelation and Jesus Himself said "the wheat and the tares should grow together" Mat 13:29-30

Because if all the religions today are talking about the end of badness surely they're seeing some signs and Jesus can't be unaware or feel unconcerned, surely he must be doing something right now since he said:

"And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:20

But you agree Jesus was not with anybody and forgot this statement the period shortly after the death of early Christians till 1914 when He chooses your organisation leaders

Do you think Jesus has given up on what he prayed fervently and suffered to commission? John 17:20-23

You agreed He did.

If not are there true believers in Christ before Pastor Russell started Watchtower late 80's that later became JWs today?

Aemmyjah:
We are talking A, you are talking Z. What is the need of interacting with someone who has never contributed anything meaningful to this forum?
Keep wailing

Of course has anyone contributed anything meaningful aside your brothers on this forum?