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Janosky:
Holy spirit is a third being of Trinitarian Worship.

According to the scripture.

Oga,I'm referencing your beliefs (in my comments) , do you understand that?]/quote]

Is that why you dodge my question and pretended you didn't see it?

[quote]In your own Bible, please name a Worshipper of your "holy ghost"

All worshipers of God are worshiping the Holy Spirit.

Reason why you can't answer my simple question

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ TRINITY no dey inside Bible

Just as Theocracy isn't in the Bible.

so if anyone is insisting on it such a person needs more than the Bible to convince his listeners.

No just say you don't understand what you're talking about.

If you are confused or lack the knowledge, simply ask someone to put you through.

I won't preach what is not written in the Bible to you such things are known as sacred secrets only to be revealed to believers.

But you preached 1914
Theocracy
Jesus is Angel Michael e.t.c

So your trinity shouldn't even be the reason why you will speak against the beliefs of others whose faith is solidly grounded in the Bible!

I didn't speak against your false doctrines because of Trinity but pointing out that you lack in depth knowledge of Trinity and you'll be claiming Mr know it all.

Janosky:
John 5:,37,43. "I have come in my Father's name"

Did Jehovah say in Malachi that someone else will come in His name or Himself will come as you early agreed?

Emusan, the TWISTER,
Janosky said "Jehovah OWNS the Way/Assignment of the 2 messengers" of Malachi 3:1.
I referenced John 17:7 & John 7:16.

But it's Jehovah who is coming

Oga, your comprehension skills dey very poor.
Please,go & DELETE John 5:37,43 from your Bible

Says someone who doesn't have brain

Emusan, continue your FOLLY, DECEIVING YOURSELF.

Mr folly foller
Mr gibberish
Mr continue to deceive yourself

MaxInDHouse:
Instead of disturbing yourself over what others believe, get to work with your church! James 2:18-26

Disturbing myself kee...

Anyway, if I don't get to work with my church Jesus won't be in our midst increasing us daily. John 15:2

MaxInDHouse:
The one and only obstacle blocking their view is TRINITY with trinity God can send himself, offer himself, obey himself, dedicate himself to himself, sacrifice himself to appease himself, pray to himself to save himself and resurrect himself with the concept of TRINITY.

So that's better to them!

This is a proof that you don't understand Trinity yet priding in your ignorance

Janosky:
You claim to worship God the Father.
You also claim to worship Jesus Christ, another being.
In addition, you Worship a third being,a ghost.

Oga, please enjoy your DELUSION.

Was Holy Spirit created or not?

MaxInDHouse:
They don't care to make further research into the original Greek words as long as they're using the version translated in the 15th centuries they believe they've gotten it all with thou, thee, thy English!

But the same you who has gotten the Greek words correctly couldn't explain that Matt 24:27 where "His Presence" was boldly written.

Better still, you can give us the Greek word for 1914 if the English one doesn't appear in your Bible

Janosky:
John 17:7,
Jehovah God is the Owner of the assignment of the 2 angels ( messengers ).

Nah Jehovah God get the Way, John 7:16 & John 17:7,nah CONFAM, according to Jesus Christ.

Just now, you are already received new light.

You made bold statement that it was Jehovah who is coming. I guess you didn't think it through before making that statement

That's why you're Janosense for sure

John 20:17 & John 5:37, Mr Emusan DECEIVING himself, did Jesus Christ & John the apostle tell you their God came to the earth?

But Jehovah Himself announced before hand that He's the one coming which you agreed with.

So did Jehovah lie? Mr Janosense

Abeg carry your FOLLY outta this forum jare.

Stop claiming what doesn't belong to you, this not JWs forum so you can get lost to your hall

Janosky:
Emusan ,Why are you find of typing GIBBERISH & expose your folly?

We know the Gibberish typer and folly one here.

@ Malachi 3:1, did Jehovah God say himself is angel of the coming angel of the covenant?
Definitely,No !

You didn't answer my question Mr gibberish typer, why

Did Jehovah say he will send a messenger who will prepare a way before HIM as you agreed above that it was Jehovah who is coming?

According to Jesus Christ & John the apostle (@John5:37 & John 20:17), did the God & Father of Jesus & John the apostle ) come to the temple on earth?
Definitely ,No ![\quote]

It's not Jehovah who is coming again

So God didn't know what He was saying when He declared in that Malachi 3:1 that "a messenger will prepare a way before HIM"

Is it that the writer made a mistake or you know more than God?

[quote]Oga, carry your GIBBERISH outta this forum.

because it's JWs forum you better get lost to your hall Mr gibberish typer

Janosky:
There are 2 messengers (Hebrew malakh angels) in Malachi 3:1.
First sentence, the angel ,(John the Baptizer) who prepares the way for lord (Jesus).
2nd sentence, Angel of the covenant (Jesus Christ) who is coming.

The statement of Malachi was made by Jehovah God.

You agreed that the statement of Malachi was made by God Himself yet you didn't see where the SPEAKER who is God Himself said “Look! I am sending my messenger, and he will clear up* a way before me. And suddenly the true Lord, whom you are seeking, will come to his temple;+ and the messenger of the covenant will come, in whom you take delight. Look! He will certainly come,” says Jehovah of armies." - NWT

The messenger will clear up a way FOR THE SPEAKER who is God then it was Jesus who actually came!

Stop deceiving yourself with manmade doctrines

ErnestNc:
Don't waste your time trying to argue with these JWs..

Actually, I don't really argue with them but to clarify scripture where their father the Devil using them to conceive the truth.

Especially that Janosky guy who is being intoxicated and used by the spirit of the antichrist.

Probably, I know them both online and offline more than you may do.

All their doctrine does is to surpress the Divine importance and relevance of the Holy spirit and Jesus Christ.

Truth must come first before lie so centuries before JWs started people already know the truth so watchtower was setup to pervert the truth people already know.

Janosky:
Because they don't know that Parousia at Matthew 24:3, the actual meaning is "presence."

That is the fundamental reason for the delusion of ErnestNc.

He had to coin imaginary convo he NEVER had,in order to be LYING on this forum. .

So Parousia actually means "Presence" in Matt 24:3 but reading down to the same Matt 24:26-27 "Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence* of the Son of man will be." - NWT

So has what Jesus Himself said in verse 27 happened in 1914.

Anyway, you're late because your fellow deluded brother as already said JWs just believe it's 1914. So 1914 has no scriptural backing.

Janosky:
In your Bible, Paul has more than one name.
Peter has more than one name.
Jesus Christ has more than one name.
Go & figure this out & have peace.

Paul and Peter were addressed by their other names reason why you know about their other names.

But where does the Bible or anyone address Jesus as Angel Michael?

FxMasterz:
This position of the JWs is the most horrendous and blasphemous heresy in Christiendom. I can't even stomach it because these two personalities are explicitly distinctive and distinguished in scripture. You need a high level of devilry in you to say the Only Begotten Son of the Father is same as Michael the archangel.

Just imagine!

The same Jesus they claimed Jehovah Himself created directly then He was USED to create all OTHER things suddenly become ordinary Angel

That was not even enough, they believe there is a spiritual bodies which means all spirit including their God has body.

Now, they also claimed Jehovah transferred the LIFE of Jesus to the womb of Mary.

Till now, JWs can't explain what happened to Jesus spiritual body when His life was transferred to Mary's womb.

The irony of this is that they'll never accept that Jesus came to earth while the spiritual body was hidden in His humanity.

So what happened to this spiritual body?

You'll wait for the answer tired...

FRANCISTOWN:
Why should I be forced to take a stand? Na by force?🤣🤣🤣

I didn't ask you to take a stand but adding your stand to your list!

FRANCISTOWN:
Of course I don't know, one part says it was created.
Another says it came by itself.
Another says it has always been and will always be.
Another says It came by chance.

And you don't know more than all the people who proposed the above four, so you must take a stand.

So please tell me, if anyone asked me if I knew how the universe came about, would it not be the only sensible thing to say that "I do not know"?

Then add it to the above

He's always been the one playing hide and seek

Then wait till when He stop playing hide and seek.

FRANCISTOWN:
Wetin happen??

When you're fighting for him

@ the subscripted text, I should just accept whatever I heard about the origin of life? When it's not that I'm stupid, there are more than 7 theories, one of which is creation, and there are more than 14,000 creation stories, so which one should I accept?

And you initially claimed you don't know if Universe was created or not

@the emboldened, God told you, he didn't tell me. Let him come and tell me too

Then confront Him. Very simple!

achorladey:
What is he doing on a thread meant for churches?

I have asked him repeatedly ooooo

Let me answer for him

because he must argue by fire by force

FRANCISTOWN:
The guy never said whether the Universe was created or not.

You're his spokesman sheee.

He only asked who told the OP that the Universe was created.
So I'll ask you again.
I don't know whether the Universe was created or not but
Who told you the Universe was created?

Since you don't know if the universe was created or not then you should accept whatever you heard about origin of the universe.

So God created the universe and He told me so.

Maximus692:
As he dey pain unah nah so he dey sweet us!

I know you learnt this from your political leader

You people have what your pastors are teaching you but you're not contented with it

Since I've been discussing with you, can you show me where I said this is what one Pastor told me?

Definitely, I've been using scripture to punch your lies not any word from any pastor.

it's always what JWs are teaching that's your problem whereas two out of all your churches aren't teaching the same thing because if they do there is no need pitching tents separately.

Jesus countered every lies Satan put forth from the scripture, that's what I've been doing here.

Our leaders taught us that Jesus returned in the year 1914

And I said it's a lie and supported it with a scripture Matt 24:26-27.

So whatever your leaders told you, it's left for you to cross check with the scripture.

just as Jesus' disciples taught those listening to them that the Christ has come and gone in the first century.

Jesus can't put forth lies. So whatever Jesus taught should be the standard, likewise the same Jesus said what is in that Matt 24:26-27.

The only evidence Jesus' disciples had back then is fulfilled prophecies that time exactly the same thing Jehovah's Witnesses have as evidence today that fulfilment of prophecies from 1914 till now is evidence that Jesus has returned.

1914 has no scriptural backing reason why you've been going back and forth on this without providing a single verse but just trying using philosophy to defend your master.

So i don't know why you people are so worried about JW's teachings if you're fully convinced of what your teachers are teaching you!

Of course, someone has to be worried when a soul is lost to Satan just as heaven rejoice when a soul is won for Christ.

Maximus692:
@ crows2ravensI'm not here for any of these people so:

But you already know that crows2ravens said he's not part of you nor have anything to do with you. So why are you still jumping up and down on this thread?

Including the ones they're raising if you want to know because i won't respond to any of their posts here!

But he has told you he has nothing to do with your JWs, so why this restlessness?

You must shall find someone to argue with

ErnestNc:
Sense will not finish you 🤣🤣

You can imagine!

See how he boldly lied that he defended Jesus actually returned to this planet Earth in 1914

When I showed him Matt 24:26-27 he went ghost mode.

That's the best he can do, boasting on his ignorance but when confronted with Bible verses he will switch to another format.

Maximus692:
Mo ti gbàgbé pé ẹlẹ́tẹ̀ ni ẹ́, tóò bá tíì tẹ́ kìí ti ẹ lọ́rùn.

He will soon accuse Jesus and His apostles making a statement like this

So keep on asking! Matthew 7:7-8

Matt 24:26-27 says what again?

Maximus692:
Why not calm down and allow two persons talk nah?

On the forum you design or the one Watchtower form

Don't deviate Mr

Since you're now claiming to be a Christian, is JWs among 41,000 sects claiming Christians with contradictory teachings?

That was a simple question.

Must you always trail JWs up and down?

Smile...

Says someone who doesn't have rest of mind and changing moniker up and down

Maximus692:
Just ask for what you don't know because there are over 41,000 different sects all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

And JWs is among those 41,000 different sects claiming Christians with contradictory teachings.

Or are you not a Christian anymore?

Maximus692:
Ọmọ if you're faithless like your friends on this thread don't think Maximus is on the same page with you guys!

Stop this nonsense!

You already knew he's never on the same page with you nor JWs.

So why jumping from thread to thread shouting like a lost dog?

It's a fact that JWs sprout from SDA

And of recent, you've started associating with the name CHRISTIAN which you once claimed has been polluted and reason why Jehovah gave you a new name.

So if JWs is also part of Christianity, are you not part of the people causing division with wrong teachings?

I know you've been looking for opportunity to deviate from the key issue on this thread.

Maximus692:
So if we JWs believe that Jesus is around since 1914

Then nobody would have criticized JWs for that since it's JWs believe but saying it's Biblical it's wrong.

So Jesus presence hasn't happened according your to Matt 24:26-37.

JWs should Just admit the wrong teaching as they once did in the past.

and we're pointing to the WORKS he is doing using imperfect humans today whatever you choose to think, say or do doesn't matter to us because we know that's how people like you criticized Jesus' disciples who also claim that the Christ has come in the first century! Matthew 5:11-12

Talking about WORK it's not new to Christianity, if people didn't WORK, C.T Russell won't know about the Gospel before he started his movement that some crooks later change to JWs as known today.

And evidence of WORK among Christianity today is everywhere despite your brothers persecution of the Body of Christ.

Janosky:
Can you make prophecy without knowledge?

Carry your foolishness outta this forum jare?

It pained you soteee you have to quote it twice

Meanwhile, you haven't answered my question, why did you leave out knowledge from the same verse?

MaxInDHouse:
Show you what?

Where you got the date 1914 from

Just as the Jews in the first century called Jesus and his disciples liars for applying the prophesies to their activities!

When you can't defend Matt 24:26-27

Of course all the evidences of his presence is a global phenomenon not only noticed in a part of the planet nah!

But it didn't happen in 1914 as Jesus said and there was a caught

Just as Jews in the first century always tell Jesus' disciples that the young Nazarene has scammed them!

See what has silent you since "Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence of the Son of man will be" Matthew 24:26-27

This didn't happen in 1914 over

MaxInDHouse:
[1] YES! Just as Jesus' disciples also claimed that the Messiah God promised has come in the first century.

Then show me from the Bible where Jesus make that statement.

[2] NO! Jesus was talking about people deceiving others about meeting him physically.

Liar! Jesus was talking about HIS PRESENCE

Very bold in that Matt 24:27

[3] NO! You got it wrong!
This is what Jesus said:

"Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence of the Son of man will be" Matthew 24:26-27

I've highlighted the major part.

So it was "His PRESENCE"

Is 1914 about Jesus PRESENCE or not?

Let's see who is lying

His true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) never invited anyone to come or go and meet Jesus anywhere unlike your church people always do on TV and Radio stations!

Jws lied that Jesus has come or His Presence has happened in 1914 but what that verses were saying is that His Presence won't be anything of dark but open to everyone to confirm in which nobody will deny it.

You have been scammed by Watchtower.

MaxInDHouse:
Unlike your church people can you present a publication of JWs where it's written that people should come or go to a place where they will meet Jesus?

Did Watchtower claim that Jesus has come in 1914?

Did Jesus Himself warn people about being deceived about His second coming?

Does Matt 24:26-27 clearly state what will happen at Jesus second coming?

Keep dodging that verse and pretending you don't see it

MaxInDHouse:
You're really misconstruing the whole thing!

Jesus returned as a mighty spirit being so JWs never told you to come and meet him anywhere unlike your church people who always advertise on TV and radio stations that people should come and meet Jesus at a venue.

What JWs are saying is that all what Jesus said about his presence are undergoing fulfilment (not that anyone should come and meet him anywhere) because he is an invisible spirit being!

Now I'm misconstruing the whole thing when Matt 24:26-27 were written in plain English.

Again!

When lies have no more covers

From NWT mouth "25 Look! I(Jesus) have forewarned you(MaxInHouse/JWs). 26 Therefore, if people(Watchtower) say to you(MaxInDHouse/JWs), ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it, (or He has come in the year 1914, it's a lie) 27 For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence* of the Son of man will be."