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MaxInDHouse:
If they're not having the same line of thought then they're not worshipping the same God!

Says you and not Jesus

I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. John 17:23

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1 Corinthians 1:10

earnestly endeavoring to maintain the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. Ephesians 4:3

I guess you know all this more than Jesus Himself.

Thank God similar cases happened and Jesus addressed it well.

Just like I said, had it been you're around that era, your song would have been we're the only one worshiping the true God.

So once Russell left the SDA he's no longer a worshiper of their God

Says you and not Jesus Christ.

Kumuyi leaving his former church is wrong if he's still claiming the same God they worship.

Says you and not Jesus or Bible.

That's why Jehovah's Witnesses will never ever pray or worship with any other religionists if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses having the same line of thought with us:

"because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me. I make request concerning them; I make request, not concerning the world, John 17:8-9

Nobody give a rat about that but just keep your hypocrisy in your bag.

The evidence from the scripture is that Jesus Himself corrected churches without saying they're not worshiping God.

So for Kumuyi to have left his former religion and still claiming he's worshiping the same God with them is a deceit!

If Russell is not worshiping the same God with them why did he retain some of their doctrines?

You can make any claim but the truth will continue to hit you hard.

seanfer:
Then let us wait for the court to give judgement on the case in from of it... Except you want to claim the Judiciary has been bought....

There are things you don't wait for judgement for.

If this happens to be another person you hate you won't wait for judgement.

Tinubu submitted NYSC certificate to INEC in 1999 but submitted exception letter to the same INEC last year.

Do you need any court to tell you that this is wrong?

"You'll know the truth and the truth shall set you free" says the Holy book

femisplash:
Son, let me educate you. It is onlx the awarding institutim that is recognized by law to confirm the authenticity or otherwise of its documents. Did CSU say the cert Tinubu allegedly submitted was fake?, it is not illegal for an institution to change any of its document with the changing times, still doesn' render the old one invalid.

Like I said, it's sweet to condemn but hard to accept the truth.

1. The one submitted has the date 22nd and the one provided has the date 27th. Now you'll put the blame on the school for typographical error

2. The one submitted to INEC has third party signature while the one provided has only two. How come?

3. The one provided has different school logo compare to the one provided by the school.

So can you see what you're defending now?

What about Tinubu submitting NYSC certificate to INEC in 1999 but submitted exception letter to the same INEC in 2022?

You didn't talk about that.

seanfer:
If in your submission why not go to court and get a judgement against him... See how you're so sure that he is guilty....

The case is in the court already.

Yes he is guilty because I've seen the certificate he presented to INEC and the one provided by CSU on subpoena

Also, what about him submitted NYSC certificate to INEC for governorship election in 1999 and submitting exception letter to INEC last year?

You people don't want justice but just the one that favour you.

femisplash:
Have you been to CSU in the US and was told his cert was fake?

Olodo....PEPT admitted a copy of certificate provided by CSU on subpoena just of recent and it's different from the one submitted to INEC.

You can see you have started defending now.

or you just seated behind your keyboard swallowimg some dogshit, while you're swallowing dogshit, Tinubu's lawyers were submitting his academic documents signed by CSU and was admitted by the tribunal.

Do you also know the same tribunal admitted the certificate from CSU on subpoena?

The first pic is the one submitted to INEC
The second pic is the submitted by CSU on subpoena.

You can see you're not really after against injustice but against who committed it.

seanfer:
Don't get me wrong.... I never claim that Tinubu is guilty or not, but there is no panel of inquiry that has found him guilty unlike the little girl that the panel set up by the state government find her guilty.....

He is guilty more than anybody.

1. The certificate submitted to INEC is different from the one CSU provided on subpoena.

2. Before becoming Governor in 1999, he submitted an NYSC certificate to INEC but for presidential election this year he submitted a letter of exception to INEC.

Don't tell me you're not aware of any of these.

FreeStuffsNG:
Even though he is not the only one, Mr Innocent Chukwuma, CEO of Innoson, was the one who actually started this nonsense of casting doubt and aspersions on JAMB as soon as JAMB officially declared the fake result paraded by Mmesoma Ejikeme as fake. It is so unfair on JAMB and its patriotic officials.

It can be very demoralising and we owe these officials and our institutions the patriotic duty of defending them against ethnic jingoists and intimidation by people with influence to peddle falsehoods and ethnic jingoism.

In my opinion, the MD of Innoson, Mr Innocent Chukwuma is not innocent and should apologise too.

Mr Innocent did same thing with his court case when Guaranty Trust Bank, GTB declared that he as owing them and should pay up his debt. That case became a media trial and like this case of Mmesoma Ejikeme, turned into a tribal fight.

He has lost this one too.

Who else should apologise?

Have you called your president to apologize to Nigerian for the fake certificate submitted to INEC?

femisplash:
Niggar, if you don't want to Ronu, you are free to Ponu like Aisha. Ponu is the perfect description for zombidents.

Funny as many of you like to support evil while pretending to hate it.

Tinubu submitted fake certificate to the INEC, have you called him out or call for his prosecution?

seanfer:
I hope all armed robbers too can hide under the pretense that because some are not caught they should let those in custody go....

But Tinubu was caught, have you ever raised the issue?

Ikaeniyan0:
It seems these woman is going insane

No! Do you ever drag Tinubu for submitting fake certificate to the INEC?

MaxInDHouse:
So after all what Jesus wrote to them if they failed to have the same line of thought they're still worshipping the same God, shey?

The repercussion was boldly stated by Jesus Himself. You're the one going with that man made doctrine of not worshiping the true God.

In fact, in the letter to Pergamum, Jesus said “14 But I have a few complaints against you. You tolerate some among you whose teaching is like that of Balaam, who showed Balak how to trip up the people of Israel. He taught them to sin by eating food offered to idols and by committing sexual sin. 15 In a similar way, you have some Nicolaitans among you who follow the same teaching. 16 Repent of your sin, or I will come to you suddenly and fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Jesus promised to come personally for a visit not to send anyone nor claimed they're not worshiping the true God.

The point you've been dodging is that, Jesus sent warmings to the erring churches and didn't call anyone for a new church to be established.

1. Russell wasn't called by Jesus Himself but just doing research about Bible (according to you) which means nobody sent him for that (even though the man never claimed doing research but he was the mouthpiece of God).

2. The fact that Russell could copy some of the SDA doctrines means they are not totally out of the path just that they need a strong warning from Jesus just like the churches.

3. Jesus would rather correct them and bring justice to them if they failed to listen to Him like He warned the church in Pergamum than instructing for a new church.

Finally, Russell and Kumuyi must be a Christian or they might not.

Do you agree?

MaxInDHouse:
You lied!

And you couldn't point out the lie.

Jesus sent words to churches in different geographical locations rebuking them for allowing the lifestyles of people living in their locality influence their lifestyles.

So, did Jesus deny them worshiping the same God or not?

If you're there, won't you claim that yours is in the only one worshiping the true God?

Jesus actually condemned some for this telling them he will trash them {Revelations 3:16}

The point is, Jesus never claimed they're not worshiping the true God or instruct anyone else to go and form a new body.

So, if Jesus actually spoke to Russell during his time He'll only use him(Russell) to condemn maybe one or two of their doctrines not to claim they're not worshiping the true God.

because according to the foundation he laid all his churches must have the same line of thought despite difference in locations? John 17:22

That was not the point of Jesus Letters in Revelation and the fact that Jesus could correct His churches at that early stage shows it's not about ONE LINE OF THOUGHT but upholding the truth.

So back to Russell and Kumuyi, both are Christians or they are not.

You can't eat your cake and also have it

MaxInDHouse:
It's like you don't understand, well when Taze left SDA he meant he's no longer a worshiper of their god.

He didn't, he just did same thing Kumuyi did.

So if you take it that Kumuyi isn't a Christian them Russell isn't a Christian also.

Are you saying Kumuyi and those churches aren't worshipping the same god?

Jesus wrote letters to churches having different opinions yet He never claimed they're not worshiping the same God.

If happened that you live in that era, you'll be claiming that yours among the seven churches is doing pure worship why others are not true followers.

If you can leave the Vail of man made doctrine WTBS had used to covered your face then you'll understand through the scripture that it had happened before in which the very person involved (Jesus) never made the same claim you're making today.

Luckysbab:
What sort of foolish question is this, for God's sake? So you suddenly have memory loss as to the term "side hustle"?

This is pathetic!

And the side hustle doesn't have a name!

So pathetic like the person you're defending.

MaxInDHouse:
Well you're wrong completely!
His parents were Catholics until his mother's death, his two brothers also died remaining only Charles and his father, the Catholics told him and his dad that God wanted angels in heaven that's why God called his mother and little brothers, from that moment Charles started having doubts with the Catholic Church.
It's his quest for Bible understanding that made him follow his father to newly formed group called SDA today and because that group disagreed with the idea that Jesus died for mankind's sin he left the SDA.

Not true, he didn't leave because of that but because there was disagreement.

Also, Just as Jesus sent messages to the churches Jesus could have use him to correct their error.

Don't forget Russell copied some of their doctrines like that 1914

Churches in Asia means geographical locations and seven congregations not what you have today where Kumuyi started his own right in the same location that there is C.A.C., The Apostolic Church, Methodist Church, Apostolic Faith and many more NO the churches Jesus sent words to are in different geographical locations you can confirm by reading it again you will find out that they're not in the same community!

Whether in the same location or not. The point is Jesus sent a message to them instead of telling someone to leave their midst and start another one.

So Jesus Christ could have used Russell to issue correction on the churches instead of starting his own (when Jesus was not even involved).

In conclusion, Jesus didn't instruct anyone to leave and start afresh but sent a message of warning to those who are going on the wrong path and a give kudos to those who are doing the will of the father.

At last, Russell and Kumuyi are of the same root, whatever you praise Russell and agree to be part of those ruling with Jesus then the same goes to Kumuyi.

GeneralDae:
Okay so how does that invalidate it from being a civil forfeiture?

So a narcotic offence is a civil forfeiture to you oh ma Se ooo

Like witness like supporter

The witness says money laundering isn't a criminal offence.

GeneralDae:
What about narcotic? Read my previous submissions. Stop going round in circles.

I didn't you're the one going in circles.

The forfeiture came from NARCOTIC RELATED OFFENCES.

MaxInDHouse:
Your questions are unlimited but can i ask just one?

You've started.

Russell first of all search for a religion teaching the truth but couldn't find any that's why he left SDA

No! He was born as SDA and grow up to become key member, if he was searching for true worship, God would have called him out before then.

Rather he had misunderstanding with the SDA people and he left.

It's you people who is changing the narrative.

so why did Kumuyi start another group if churches like Apostolic Faith, C.A.C, The Apostolic Church, Methodist Church and many more that you often defend are all groups practicing Christianity?

In Revelation, Jesus wrote letters to seven churches and highlights their errors and told them to amend their ways. Why didn't Jesus instruct someone to start new church?

So Jesus could have just use Russell to write a letter to the SDA if they are not actually in path of righteousness.

Or do you think Jesus will just abandoned people who are using His name wrongly without correction even when many members will be true to their worship?

The same reason Russell pull out of SDA and started his own without God's backing is the reason there are many denominations in Christ body today.

Thanks in advance!

You're welcome in advance!

GeneralDae:
It was for both. You go read the full court document.

But the main point is narcotic.

GeneralDae:
If American court found he was also involved in the drug ring, he would not only have forfeited, he would have been extradited to America to serve his term especially in a time like 1993 when there was all out war on drugs and racism against blacks was more of a thing than now.
Additionally, America wouldn't grant him visa after that to enter their country anyhow he sees fit.

That was the content of the forfeiture case.

Nigeria visa or Guinea?

Mccullum:
It is for tax evasion.

But the case is narcotic related.

Which the witness agree with.

So come with another lie.

GeneralDae:
I don't know what you are arguing. No one ever denied it was about illicit drug business but rather was Tinubu involved in it to warrant a criminal forfeiture plus jail? or he just innocently kept money for his client in America who was involved, which would then amount to only a civil forfeiture of the funds without further Penalties?
The latter scenario was what happened.

You keep saying client client...


What business was Tinubu doing to make him have a client?

GeneralDae:
It doesn't matter. Narcotics related money entered his account but his defense was that he only received money from a client living in America. Judges could not prove whether or not was involved in the Narcotics. If the American judges couldn't prove that, how should our courts go about proving that?

American court did and the reason for the forfeited of that huge amount.

What business was he doing when he is also working with a company?

Many of you will just try to defend without looking at the statement critically.

MaxInDHouse:
It's about people who tolerate no rivalry for pure worship it's about faithful people who are interested in the one and only religion practicing pure worship. Even if they're worshipers of Sàngó presently as long as they want to prove that they have the only true religion such ones are Jehovah's sheep that must be found.

And Kumuyi has that quality too.

So no hidden place for.

Kumuyi met different religions claiming Christians and he couldn't find anything wrong with them till today he still recognize them as Christians so he's not a Christian for starting another one.

The same with Russell, reason he borrowed many of their doctrines.

SDA didn't believe in the ransom sacrifice of Christ to them it sounds like human sacrifice so they don't believe that Jesus died to save us.

They don't need to believe all what Russell believed.

The fact is Russell also retained many of their doctrines. The most important one is the 1914.

The path of righteousness is a gradual thing {Proverbs 4:18} the sign is that those on this path always believe in one God one organization.

Which is the reason why Russell heard about the Gospel before decided to start his own.

Jesus called many but they failed to make research that's why majority of those he called left him later! John 6:66

But the one who stayed with Him didn't do research.

So what happened to those that left and never came back if not that this ones made thorough research? Jesus himself confirmed that these ones have come to know that he is truly from God after thorough research on the scriptures and what Jesus is doing.

They have come TO KNOW which means they didn't search for it.

Remember they once asked him "why did the Scribes say 'Elijah must come first?'" {Matthew 17:10} that's a sign that they're still studying him despite all his miraculous works they knew the scriptures say God will send Elijah first before the Christ so if Jesus is the Christ then how come they're now seeing Elijah after seeing Jesus? Matthew 17:3

It shows they know what was written before and besides it's not the disciples who ask that question but the listeners.

God's Holy Spirit reveals information to God's servants gradually {Proverbs 4:18} that's why Jesus said there are informations his disciples can't bear at some point in time {John 16:12-13} so the Apostles that died before Jesus gave Apostle John the book of Revelations knew nothing about all those information yet they're part of his ruling team!

But the book of revelation doesn't contradict what the apostles know before their death.

Does what JWs preached today inline with what Russell claimed to be guided by God's Holy Spirit?

Naaaaa it's what each generation can bear that God's Holy Spirit reveals so the error is in the hands of the recipients not God's Holy Spirit!

That's nice! Then you agree Russell misrepresented what the Holy Spirit told him.

That's what we later found out about him Sir he was making research and progressing.

Which means, Russell lied against the Holy Spirit because he made the claim by himself not what someone attributed to him.

Just see the way you're trying to forced Russell into heaven

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Below are my other points you omitted or boycotted.

1. Can you list few mistake JWs have made so far and the corrections?

2. When God is involved not amendment or erred if not people won't believe in Him. So whatever amendment and error found in JWs, it's their own statement and error not God



You have to include the @underlined part

No wonder you can't support it with any Bible passage.



But you said there was no TRUE CHRISTIAN during Russell time so how come Russell heard about Christ from non Christian?



Jesus had already told His disciples what they should be expecting and they patiently wait for it. So they didn't do any research.

Stop the lies.



Very well
But Russell died worshiping Jesus and celebrating Christmas.



So it doesn't necessarily means you must belong to any group before you discovered something about Jesus.



Give the Bible verse where Jesus says He'll start gathering people in 1914.

Also, were you there or who was with Jesus when the gathering started in 1914?



Jesus statement to His disciples after they saw a man using Jesus name was "leave him alone, as long as he is not against us" Mark 9:39

But Russell has millions of dollars to his name and you believe he's ruling with Jesus.



As long as you didn't change to your usual mode

Okwyjesus:
That's a good legal defence. Civil offence is not Criminal offence.

It's evident you didn't read it.

He agreed that the forfeiture is narcotic related case.

This iss the part the Media trying to hide from his witness statement.

MaxInDHouse:
This is where wisdom comes in!

Do you have it?

Jehovah's Witnesses is not limited to Christianity many lived and died seeking the path of righteousness yet they're not Christians.

That's nice! Which means, Kumuyi is also in the part of righteousness.

So Christ recognized them because they're hungry and thirsty for truth not human philosophies! Matthew 5:6

So are you now Christ to have known those who belong to this group?

Kumuyi is not on that path otherwise he would have joined one out of the religions he couldn't disprove if truly they're practicing Christianity.

But you just said in the above that those on the right path doesn't need to be a Christian, so why must they belong to group of people practicing Christianity?

Today Kumuyi acknowledges many religions including the ones he met before starting his own so why did he split if those groups are practicing Christianity?

Till he died Russell acknowledge many doctrines of SDA, why did he leave?

Jehovah's Witnesses are always researchers in truth and righteousness

But not direct instructions from God.

check all worshipers of God in the Bible they're always asking questions to be sure of pure worship

NO! God revealed Himself to them and the disciples Jesus called them by Himself. No research was done.

so Jesus' disciples were researchers that's why they asked Jesus after thoroughly observing him:

Stop the lies! They are not in fact, many are unlearned.

"Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life. We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.” John 6:68-69

This is not a research statement but affirmation of their convictions in Christ.

If they weren't researchers they can't discover what others failed to realize about Jesus!

There's a saying that says "Seeing is believing" those disciples have actually saw and experienced what Jesus is capable of not through research.

If he started a new religion then how come it's not what he knew back then that we're doing today?

He started a new religion which you know and history does too.

Russell CLAIMED he knew exactly what he believed and the Holy Spirit guided him to that effect, so if not what Russell believed by then believe today by his followers then there's a problem somewhere.

Which means, Holy Spirit of God was not with him and never knew him or today's JWs has deviated from the truth revealed to him by the Holy Spirit.

God can't inspired error or confusion.

It's because he was making research on pure worship

When will you be truthful to yourself for once.

Russell never once claimed to be doing research but ACTUALLY CLAIMED he was guided by God's Holy Spirit.

If Russell hadn't involved God's Holy Spirit and claimed he's just doing research, nobody will take him serious but alas he connect most of his message to the direction of God's Holy Spirit.

that's why we are making more and more amendments each time we find out where he erred if he's the founder nobody can lay anything new on his foundation!

1. Can you list few mistake JWs have made so far and the corrections?

2. When God is involved not amendment or erred if not people won't believe in Him. So whatever amendment and error found in JWs, it's their own statement and error not God

1914 is solidly based on scriptural research if you want to know ask Jehovah's Witnesses to show you how we arrived at 1914!

You have to include the @underlined part

No wonder you can't support it with any Bible passage.

Russell believes the little he heard about Jesus

But you said there was no TRUE CHRISTIAN during Russell time so how come Russell heard about Christ from non Christian?

and continued learning to know more just like Jesus' first century Jews disciples that's why he prayed for them! John 17:8-9

Jesus had already told His disciples what they should be expecting and they patiently wait for it. So they didn't do any research.

Stop the lies.

Did you know what amendments means?

Very well
But Russell died worshiping Jesus and celebrating Christmas.

Well it's about what you discovered that you're not aware before so Jesus cherish such ones!

So it doesn't necessarily means you must belong to any group before you discovered something about Jesus.

After 1914 Jesus began gathering his people under one umbrella so if anyone fails to know this he or she can't be part of those to rule with Christ.

Give the Bible verse where Jesus says He'll start gathering people in 1914.

Also, were you there or who was with Jesus when the gathering started in 1914?

Remember the Jews man also acknowledged Jesus as Lord but instead of joining Jesus' group he love riches, prominence and fame more so can such ones rule with Christ? Luke 18:18-23

Jesus statement to His disciples after they saw a man using Jesus name was "leave him alone, as long as he is not against us" Mark 9:39

But Russell has millions of dollars to his name and you believe he's ruling with Jesus.

Let's leave that for now and continue with our interesting discussion!

As long as you didn't change to your usual mode

MaxInDHouse:
Of course he's on the path of righteousness!

But he died not being a Christian.

And Kumuyi was also on the path of righteousness.

He was a learner just like Jesus' first century followers who were ready to learn so instead of sticking to man-made doctrines himself and his friends were making research to discover true Christianity that's why they kept making amendments unlike others who just swallow the laid down doctrines of Hellfire!

It was just research and not directly from Jesus or God. So the research is self employed.

Early apostles aren't on research but follow God's instructions as given to them directly from God Himself.

NO! He didn't start anything

He did! Stop lying on what is not hidden to anyone.

because what Himself and his fellow researchers were doing was found WRITTEN in Jesus' word so how can he be the founder?

Russell borrowed many ideas from SDA especially 1914 claim. So not research solely based on Bible but self employed work from man-made point reason a doctrine of 1914 has no biblical link.

Being part of those who will rule with Christ in heaven has to do with only those who are ready to make amendments {John 3:5-6}

So someone has not to be a follower of Christ before being part of those who rule with Him.

All these lied is just to praise Russell while condemning another.

so if Russell and his fellow researchers were humble like children to admit their errors and make amendments the man from Nazareth said they are qualified to rule with him! Matthew 18:4

I repeat Russell didn't Ake any amendments, he died worshiping Jesus and celebrating Christmas. I asked again what amendment did he make?

At least he discovered that there is nothing called Hellfire in God's will!

If that is the only amendment, do you realise many denominations don't subscribe to the doctrine of Hell Fire as well?

So will they be part of those who will rule with Christ?

Why not reciprocate the way i'm dealing with you?

Do you even want to deny you haven't rained insults on me on this forum?

You have no business with the way i dealt with others since you don't know what transpired before.

Of course I don't but stop parading yourself as if you don't start insults on people.

So stick to the way i'm dealing with you not how i dealt with those you don't even know what they did to me.

My point is cleared stay on the subject matter.

Remember Jesus CURSED some people yet he commanded us to bless those who curse us so do you think it's proper to start cursing Jesus since he also cursed some people or it's wiser to find out what really happened that led to the incident?

You're not Jesus so stop the comparison.

If you insults people because Jesus cursed some people then you take the same insults when directed at you since Jesus did same.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus himself made sure that the message was preserved {Revelation 22:10} so even though true Christianity was no more in Russell's day {Luke 18:8} how to recover it is written in the Bible! John 8:32

That means Russell isn't a true Christian since there's no one in his time!

That's the point I want.

Christianity is not about the knowledge of it all but gradual understanding of truth {Proverbs 4:18} so true Christians don't start their own religion when they have found what is working fine as pure worship.

But Russell started it so he's not a true Christian!

YES! When Jesus chose his apostles and promised them that they will rule with him in heaven they weren't all knowing but humble learners ever ready to make amendments in order to meet up with God's will which is making up a global family of peace loving worshipers. So the selection wasn't based on accurate knowledge otherwise Pharisees and Sadducees could have had better chances than Jesus' disciples when talking about those going to rule with Christ in heaven. Matthew 19:28

But Russell who isn't a true Christian is part of people ruling with Jesus

He was willing to make amendments to meet up with God's will so YES, He was one of the lost sheep of the house of Israel! Matthew 10:6

Yet he died worshiping Jesus as God and celebrating Christmas.

So which amendment did he make before he died?

You should know me better by now, i'm ever ready to answer all your questions so far you don't turn to provocation and insults!

You've started your lies!

Show me where I insulted you but I can show you many insults you've raise on people.

So continue to answer my questions before changing to your usual mode.

MightySparrow:
You have not answered the question.

Ok

But if you think you have, let us examine the passage.
1. Jesus came in His Father's name. He was not accepted.

That was Jesus own statement.

2. Mohammed came in his own name ( self called, self sent prophet).

At least you can deduce this from that statement.

3. Even then, he was not accepted by Jews.

And to you the statement was targeted at the Jews only....

4. The verse says, ' if someone comes n his own name.'
This is conditional statement not a prophecy.

Smile.... What if another version didn't use

5. I think you qouted wrongly.

No! As you rightly deduce the part that Muhammad fulfilled.


Please give unambiguous bible references.
Thanks[/quote]

MaxInDHouse:
Charles Taze Russell died in the year 1916 when there was no religion preaching from house to house just as Jesus commanded so it's his cohorts that improved on what he knew back then

So how does Russell himself head about the Jesus since nobody is following what Jesus commanded?

therefore even though both Kumuyi and Russell are wrong in many things

Yet you believe Russell is a Christian but Kumuyi is not, isn't that hypocrisy?

Also, despite this, you also believe Russell is part of the anointed people ruling with Jesus in heaven presently

yet Kumuyi had the opportunity Russell never had:

But the same Russell is in heaven now ruling with Jesus

Kumuyi met a well organized group of zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word yet he decided to start his own business which never produced a global family of peace loving worshipers.

Story!!!!

Hypocrite, is Russell a Christian or not?

So just like John the baptist Russell never had the opportunity to experience a global family of peace loving worshipers God promised he would have embraced it with all his heart unlike Kumuyi who saw it but started hitting his head on a brick trying to form his own that can never ever produce the same fruit!

Despite this, Russell is a Christian and part of those ruling in heaven with Jesus now according to JWs hypocrite!

Never ignore any of my point or question!!!

MaxInDHouse:
Please what do you mean by "CHRISTIANS" as you link Kumuyi with Christianity?

The Bible taught us what Christianity is all about and from what was penned down in the Bible Kumuyi is far away from Christianity!

Kumuyi is far from Christianity but Charles T. Russell was embedded in Christianity