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GodsOwn2004:
Your statement below shows that you don't know anything about civil engineering.

That's one problem with people like you, you said I don't know yet you couldn't provide the information that prove actually that I don't know

Karlifate:
No one narrows anything. Just say those are the three you're conversant with.

Can I know the other ones you're talking about?

hakeem4:
how is a builder an engineer for crying out loud?

A Builder is also an Engineer

That's why the course of study is named in some institutions as "BUILDING ENGINEERING"

quentin06:
But the structural engineer is the one who is supposed to provide structural plans m(drawings) of the building

You're right!

but I see many architects doing this in practice

No architect can do that unless the architect is also a structural engineer, what you see are people who are just doing guess work.

I guess thats one of the dividends of autocad, one can easily copy and paste other peoples jobs.

You can copy people work on autocad especially the architectural drawings but each building has different structural members which need different structural analysis and detailing but what many so called professionals do is to copy and paste any structural drawings they have and do a guess work on the project.

Holluwatarhyor:
Julius berger is a civil engineering company and they can handle the building of structures,because I'm not getting you,are you a builder or a civil engineer to start with??

That means Julius Berger can do all the three aspect of civil engineering works i.e structure, highway and water(dam).

I'm a Builder/Structural Engineer.

NotKnown:
The architect has NO RIGHT whatsoever to supervise any building. What are you supervising? That they should follow the drawing or what?
So what then is the job of the structural engineer? What's the job of a builder?

You guys take a lot of things for granted in Nigeria. If Nigeria was truly working a lot of you would have been jailed.

You're wrong!

Architect is the head of the building Team!

So he/she must be there to ensure that the building was built as designed.

Just as structural engineer a team member must also be there to ensure that all the structural members are built as designed

Holluwatarhyor:
you are not totally right,I've worked with the telecommunication industry to construct a network mast,an average technician can't build a network mast without the assistance of a civil engineer,there's a difference between a civil engineer and a building technician/someone who studied building.


Civil engineering is vast,so some builders,surveyors and architects call themselves engineer also

Among the three you mentioned only BUILDER is an Engineer.

Yes civil engineering is vast but it has been narrow down to just three.

Which are:
1. Structure
2. High way
3. Water

ikezudon:
The Architect is the head of the project and has every right to supervise the building construction.

However, he is not an island of knowledge and can only be successful on the project alongside a qualified engineer.

Yes an architect is the head of the project not the one who should execute the project.

That's where the confusion started. An architect was trained to design, in fact many architects don't know the position of COLUMNS in the building and a structural engineer can introduce beam(s) into the building

Las las, na wetin we design dem go build

You're right but you don't know the working structural members of the building which hold the building in place.

and we gats Dey there till dem build an finish.[quote]Yes to ensure what you design was what is on ground.

Just as structural engineer will be there too.

That's why architect wasn't the only building Team.

[quote]Sadly, clients love to play a quick one and shortchange us in a bid to save money (so they think). Them no Dey even pay for design.

Well many clients can bypass architect if their taste can be met but the structural parts of the building can never be overlooked by anybody.

christistruth01:
It is my personal Opinion that Bricklayers can manage buildings up to 4 storeys high if they are well experienced or trained and have laid the Foundation to very Strong and reinforced

This is from a type Nigeria Engineer!

How can you say something like this?

Do you know importance of structural analysis and detailing?

Can a bricklayer tell you how each members of the structure behave under loading?

This is what is leading to many building collapse.

The Problem is that in a Swampy area the cost of the reinforced fortified Foundation alone may cost more than the house to be built on it and the Nigerian Landlords will try to save costs

You're right on this!

I also believe that the failure of Ajaokuta in produce Steel for the Nation has hit the Construction and Railway industriresy very badly

You maybe right here

Most buildings that collapse gave insufficient Steel Supports that are meant to carry most of the weight of the Structure

I disagree!

Most building that collapse lack structural analysis and detailing.

Just as you suggested at the opening of your post. Many structure built in Nigeria are based on ASSUMPTION of this type of foundation can do it, this type of reinforcement will over carry the load or concrete mixing ratio 1:2:4 is for any building.

These are what will be subjected to scrutinity during structural analysis and detailing and the most accurate result will be obtained.

SeniorGee:
It's quite unfortunate. These artisans sweet-talk the clients into patronising them because of their "experience", and yet they have no technical details thinking all sites are thesame!
Pls patronise professionals so that you can sleep well.

Not only sweet talk, many clients self are looking for cheap structures

Even the so called professionals don't know what Engineering all about especially when it comes to highrise buildings.

They can't generate Structural Data
They can't do simple Structural design
They can't read structural analysis reports

All what you see on site are copy and paste reinforcement arrangements from another design.

Until the industry set the priority straight then we can start to talk of professionalism in construction industry.

NIOB bill that can put all this quacks in their hiding hole has been with National Assembly for years now. What can one say about that?

With this bill, for instance:
Non-building professionals can't set up ordinary Block industry which means all the block industries will be owned by professional that will guarantee standard block.

You always show how confused you are!

MaxInDHouse:
In the beginning WAS the word and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God

From the above it's clear something is wrong due to John's use of WAS throughout

Instead of saying something is WRONG, you could have explained in details the usage of the verb WAS but I know your brain capacity isn't high for that.

which means the word worked with God but as he is penning down those words the word isn't God rather the word WAS God at some point in time.

If you have done little research on the usage of the verb WAS, you'd have saved yourself from this embarrassment.

[s]Moses WAS God at a point in time too Exodus 7:1 therefore if Moses worked with God in delivering Israel out of Egypt and WAS God while in Egypt it doesn't mean that Moses IS God rather he served as God at a point in time.[/s]

Irrelevant!

So the correct interpretation of that verse would be:

In the beginning WAS the word and the word WAS God and the word WAS a god/ divine/ godlike

Just look at the nonsense you spew in above

At least you can see how John patterned his statement with that of Adam and Eve.

You have shifted from your initial point of BOTH GOD when I gave you Bible expository

The use of capital for both God and the one with God makes no practical sense because all other verses afterwards shows that the word is God's messenger.

Thank you!

Another delusion, there's no CAPITAL LETTER in Greek

MaxInDHouse:
I don't appreciate pointless stories!

Imagine, Bible expository is a Pointless stories to you

If you know the answer just answer the question directly:

Period!

The answer has been given!

MaxInDHouse:
No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten son who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him. John 1:18

This is the correct scripture.

So how come "no man has seen God" and "only begotten son who is at the side of God (Father)"

The side of Father! Stop injecting your own delusion

Lastly, the Word WAS GOD!

Janosky:
JWs actually support the use of medicines,drugs recommended by medical professionals but we are against recreational use of addictive, harmful substances in order to get "high",in order words,drug misuse and abuse of drugs.

@underlined - so it must be a PROFESSIONAL but you entrusted your own interpretation of the Bible to UNPROFESSIONAL people at Bethel

MaxInDHouse:
"In the beginning WAS the word and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God"

@ verse 18 of the same chapter we read:

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him"

So is the word GOD or someone beside GOD?

The word is God!

John pictures that with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden.

Let me give you small Bible study on that.

Firstly, The first COUPLE lived alone in the Garden. The two are to be viewed as ONE
>>>Gen 2:24 - In the garden, two persons, the man and the woman, "became one flesh"
>>>Gen 5:1-2
"God created man" (singular)
"He made him" (singular)
"Named them man" (singular)
Yet it says:
"He created THEM male and female" (plural)
"He blessed THEM" (plural)
"and Named THEM" (plural)
"They were created" (plural)
NOTE: The name EVE wasn't given to the woman not until after the fall, so both Male and the female were collectively called MAN.

Secondly, Gen 1:26-27
"Let us make man" (singular)
"God created man" (singular)
"He created him" (singular)
In contrast the same text also says:
"....let them rule" (plural)
"Male and female he created THEM" (plural)

Lastly, Jesus refers to the first couple and after stating "they were one flesh" adds "they are no longer two"

In line of this, would it be wise to say: In the garden was the woman, the woman was with the man and the woman was A MAN?

Intellectual mind knows this is a wrong rendition because it will put the woman as A MALE which will be confused as the FIRST MALE.

So the best way to understand that even though both the male and the female were both collectively called "MAN" "them" e.t.c is to render it as: In the garden was the woman, the woman was with the man and the woman was MAN

Here intellectual mind knows that the woman was addressed as MAN per her NATURE.

So John 1:1 shows two separate persons with one NATURE (God).

Do you understand?

Bible study 101

MaxInDHouse:
Of course God's Kingdom was established in the heavens in the year 1914 we have all the vivid proof of that already so there's no dispute over it!

Don't worry you're coming back to your vomit at least "YEAR 1914" is a specific DATE.

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Show this forum a specific date where JWs said "THE WORLD WILL END" in any of their publications!

I've don't that many times.

Is year 1914 a specific DATE or not?

God's Kingdom was established in heaven in the year 1914 nobody not even your pastors can deny all the evidences JWs have!

Is year 1914 a specific DATE or not that's what I'm interested in?

MaxInDHouse:
Here

You mentioned the "YEAR 1914"

Is that A SPECIFIC DATE or not?


Besides, check the screenshot below

MaxInDHouse:
Where is it mentioned that "the world will end" as all of you have been accusing this group?

Just like I do say, you don't have single shame!

If you didn't see where it was stated that "...BY AT END OF 1914"

The group said the likes of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will be resurrected in 1925...

God's Kingdom was established in Heaven in the year 1914

When was this started?

You see after, boldly typing rubbish asking WHERE WAS IT MENTIONED WITH A SPECIFIC DATE, now you've mentioned the specific DATE yourself

[s]Jesus (Archangel Michael) with his angels waged a war against Satan and his angels {Reve 12:7-12} and ever since then the effects of this established righteousness in the heavens has been felt globally! Matt 24:3-12[/s]

Irrelevant!!!

You've giving us the actual SPECIFIC DATE you've been denying since

So we are to endure now to the end {Matt 24:13-14} when Jesus will advance towards the earth to establish his kingdom just as he asked us to pray! Matt 6:9-10

That's your cup of tea

But no specific date was mentioned regarding the END of the WORLD!

But you just mentioned SPECIFIC DATE above!

Oh sorry, YEAR 1914 isn't a date to the self acclaimed intelligence officer

MaxInDHouse:
“Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” Matt 4:17

That's what Jesus said some 2,000 years ago so Jehovah's Witnesses are doing exactly the same thing!

Compare that to what Watchtower says below, do the two statements close?

Mikee19:
By repeatedly setting years and months for fulfillment of Bible prophecy, that not even one then comes to pass. Yea that's exactly what Jesus did

You can see how he was kept lying in other thread.

That's how you'll know who is working for

MaxInDHouse:
Please just one publication where you will highlight the specific date as stated that the world will end for example
"the world will end on the 14 of June 2022"

I don't think this is hard to do than posting so much articles with no specific date as you have accused this organization!

Of course only you will look at the attached screenshot and say Watchtower never MENTIONED SPECIFIC DATE

The second pic speaks a lot about the organization that produces you

MaxInDHouse:
If i don't care you know i will simply ignore you!

You could have done that than this pretentious attitude of yours

MaxInDHouse:
Back to what never happened!

Please present just one publication of JWs that explicitly state a date when the world will end e.g 14-6-2022

I've done that previously, why are you still playing blind to it

Maybe the next thing to claim now is that enemies of your organization are behind those publications

MaxInDHouse:
I told you Emusan.
"Don't quote anyone"
Just present whatever you have in mind!

Look at him pretending as if he cares

MaxInDHouse:
Oh no Emusan has been barred! (BANNED)
Well i'm expecting your comment my friend anytime anyday regarding God's people.

I always tell people around me that if we are to concentrate on the flaws faithless humans are talking about then there's no way we can say we believe in Jesus of Nazareth.

That's not an issue here! Your organization made several FALSE PROPHECIES with a specific DATE.

He himself knew very well that many even among his own people will be stumbled if they keep contemplating on flaws rather what God said about the Christ:

"Happy is the one who finds no cause for stumbling in me.” Matthew 11:6

The case here is, did your organization make false prophecies with specific DATE?

The answer is yes! Which you're trying so hard to deny despite the facts provided.

Even Peter confirmed that faithless people will be stumbled and offended:

It is to you, therefore, that he is precious, because you are believers; but to those not believing, “the stone that the builders rejected, this has become the chief cornerstone” and “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” They are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were appointed. 1Peter 2:7-8

This is not the subject matter, stop preambulating.

So if you're expecting imperfect humans to be perfect in their assignment then you can never believe in any form of worship as God's arrangement.

I never said your leaders SHOULD BE PERFECT, rather you're the one who made them FAR SUPERIOR THAN JESUS HIMSELF.

I believe in the Word of God (Bible) despite the fact that God used imperfect human to pen His perfect word.

There will always be errors in the way humans do things because they are imperfect but no matter what the sign that God is working with them will be there:

This is nice, so can you show us the ERROR in your organization teachings?

Don't dodge this question please.

They will produce fine fruit of faith {Matthew 7:16-18} and Satan will continue to give you reasons why you should not work with them even when everyone can see that there's no better performing group than them!

Rather Satan is giving you plenty reason to not free yourself from the prison of Watchtower society when Bible never talks about ANY BETTER PERFORMING GROUP.

johnw47:
emusan, what rule number do they say that you are breaking
it will be in your profile while the ban is in force

The post I'm quoting contains a bug! Reason why Antispam bot keeps deleting it.

MaxInDHouse:
I said barred not banned

Don't worry my guy, if my own brother believe me it's enough you can choose whatever you want to believe but know that Emusan won't be able to make any comments on Nairaland until tomorrow afternoon!

And it's actually BANNED and not BARRED!

ITK won't kill