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RealTalker02:
He gave it when he breath into Adam, That's the question your dumb head isn't asking. How did he gave it ? Spirit of man is the breath of life God gave him

Just as your dumb skull still twisting

Did the spirit go back to God or not?

Deluded man

Confused being

God gave " it "

" It "

" It "

" It"
A thing.

Oponu..so you want it to be Him/She

The verse alone should have even school your dumb head.

When you lack the very understanding.

This is apart from the Fact that 1pet did not made mention of human body , and even Revelation made it clear those who died in the sea/water will be released by the sea .

Which still leave you with question, do their spirit go back to God who gave it?

MaxInDHouse:
The LORD smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: "Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done. "As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease." Genesis 8:21-22

@color but you also believe Jehovah will DESTROY ALL LIVING CREATURES at Armageddon, isn't that wonderful?

I can see you're afraid to list how you honor Jehovah here

Janosky:
Mark 7:10: "For Moses said, Honor thy father and thy mother"

Lemme interpolate it for you

"For Moses did not say "Honor thy father and thy mother JUST AS you honor Jehovah"

John 5:23: "honor the Son, EVEN AS they honor the Father.

That @underlined is what is missing in all you post. Definitely, you decide to hide that truth.

John 12:26: "serve me, him will my Father honor."

not EVEN AS we honor the Father

Acts 28:10: "honored us with many honors; and when we departed, they laded us with such things as were necessary."

Not EVEN AS we honor the Father

Ephesians 6:2: " Honor thy father and mother; which is the first"

Not JUST AS we honor the Father

1 Timothy 5:3: " Honor widows that are widows indeed."

Not JUST AS we honor the Father

1 Peter 2:17: " Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor"

The clause "JUST AS we honor the Father" is missing

"Honor Widows.
Honor all men.
Honor your Father and your mother.
They honored us (the disciples)"

All this without the clause "JUST AS we honor the Father"

Emusan LIENUS will never repent from LYING.

I know it always pains you and your father the Devil, whenever we exposed your deed.

Lemme quote the verse again, "ALL MUST honor the Son, EVEN AS they honor the Father."

All the verses you ever quoted, no one ever come close to this divine commandment! Yet you and your fraudulent organization failed to obey it.

Besides, how do you honor Jehovah? Don't be afraid to tell us

Shame on you,LIENUS

Thanks! You can add this challenge to it.

You as a Yoruba son, walk up to one of your elder then tell him, as from today I want you to honor me JUST AS you honor your father (since the Bible says we should honor ALL MEN).

Let's see how well it'll go and don't forget to do before and after video because your empty skull might not remain the same again

Janosky:
LYING is Emusan's sole talent.

Kindly point out the lies in my post or remain silent forever like your father the Devil

RealTalker02:
- Whole body goes to hell, none of such in 1Pet .

- Those who died in Noah's day are in the Sea, and would be released from the waters/Sea not hell, says Revelation, not any prison.

Your ideas have no scrutiny

See the lying liar finding a place to hide

They are Spirits went to God who gave it or not?

No single reference anywhere that spirit of a man goes to hell, because it's man's breath. NONE! You are exposed as the fraud you are.

You're not yet cure of this your lying mouth.

Spirit of man can't be breath since both were used in the same verse.

What you would find as reference to hell is human body, Which your dumb self can't even process.

Keep trying, you'll get well soon

RealTalker02:
You are back to normal, after the They are one nonsense.

Why you're still dwelling in your delusion

Since they are different persons

So who says they are the SAME PERSON before? See the mumu lying liar!

who knows the Father deepest among this two persons , Son or Holy spirit ?

Already answered!

RealTalker02:
Unless you are deluded, Both are not one person.

The deluded one! Who says they ONE PERSON?

And in fact, Being one doesn't mean we are same persons,

Then who says so before, are you high on cheap thing?

Jesus pray his disciples are one, they are still Different persons .

Dumbest mind! How does it correlate with my post?

So my question stands- Is it the person called " Son " or the person called " holy spirit " that knows the Father deepest?

The answer already in my previous post.

I repeat , both are not one person!!!

Then I asked again, who says they are ONE PERSON? Dumbest thing.

RealTalker02:
Jesus is Dumb?

Matt 5:30 "your whole body go into hell. "

Jesus emphasize repeatedly that Human body is needed in hell.

Which out right kill your idea.

You still don't get it.

Rather it kills your dumbness

What appear at 1Pet is prison , no human is said to be in prison, only a dumb one interpret it to mean hell, which lead to the question

- if this is hell for humans, where are the human bodies that is thrown there?

See ignorance, so what happened in the prison?

Hell is there in 1 Peter for you

According to Jesus, this wicked one will go to hell with their Soul and body,

Matt 5:30 " your whole body go into hell."

Keep trying, las las your dumbness will be cured.

This point totally destroy your human in hell prison idea. Jesus never mention or describe ordinary Spirits in hell, spirit is man's breath, he rather mention human bodies Repeatedly

But spirit is different from breath

Do you saw where it says those who died in the Sea ar not in this hell? People of Noah's day are in the sea and it's the Sea that would release them not prison. Your ideas ar total fiction.

But their spirit went to God who gave it

He did . He repeatedly emphasize body going to hell, not once did he mention spirit in hell, because spirit of man Is his breath

Spirit of man can't be his breath since both spirit and breath used together in the same verse

RealTalker02:
1Corinthians 2:11

" no one can know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit. " NLT

According to this text, Jesus didn't reveal the Father's thought to holy spirit before he knows it, he knows the Father's deep thought than NO ONE ELSE, which include Jesus.

Ode....both are one!

The Father, The Word & Holy Spirit.

When the Bible was talking about NO ONE, it means the audience or anyone OUTSIDE the Godhead.

Simple comprehension is truly an issue for you.

So the question again: Is Jesus lying when he claimed to be the one who reveal the Father to all others ? Or you admit it's the holy spirit that reveal the Father to Jesus ?

When lack of simple comprehension is in play

You need Bible study.

Janosky:
Mumu post.

You're the one showing your mumuness here.

This mumu 3 deities worshipper says when he honour his father and mother he worships them.

No! That's not what he says. That John 5:23 says "JUST AS THEY HONOR THE FATHER"

The point is, you should honor Jesus the same way you honor Jehovah.

Now, if you are not truly the son of your father the Devil, list here let's see the way you HONOR JEHOVAH.

The same Greek word "Honour" is at John 5:23,Mark 10:19 & Ephesians 6:1-2.
The screenshot exposed his gullibility & self deceit to think that Honour meant worship.

As usual the point isn't about the Greek word of HONOR but what honor belong to Jehovah should be given to Jesus.

Jashub, 3 deities worshipping polytheists, continue to disobey your own Bible @Matthew 4:10 & Mark 12:29.

Can't you see you're the very one disobeying your own Bible when you can't honor Jesus THE SAME WAY you honor Jehovah.

RealTalker02:
You are dumb like I always tell you

Your dumbest is glaring here

“This is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, [b] and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent”

Jesus chooses those HE REVEALS the FATHER to. So stop typing rubbish.

Yes I know Jesus , But not as Deep as the Father knows him. And I know the Father but not as Deep as Jesus knows him.

But that's not what the text says you just added that for further confusion

You can see that you're not smart at all.

The problem is Jesus claim to be the one who knows the Father deepest and he chooses who to reveal him to,

That's the point. Which is among the listeners of Jesus.

But another text claim Holy spirit knows the things of the Father deepest than anyone else.

Very well!

But remember ONLY PERSON have ability to know.

Which make me ask the question: Who is closest between Jesus and holy spirit?

Above point is enough for your question unless you're still drowning in lack of simple comprehension.

RealTalker02:
Show me Help in that text?

If you're blind to see it, it's not my fault.

To be in hell requires the human body, Jesus stress this with statements like
" Body and soul in hell "
" Two eyes in hell "

" Two hands in hell "

Buddy, if this were humans, Where are the evidence for human body?

You're still displaying your ignoramus! That's why I'm just laughing at your ignorance

spirit in that 1pet refer to angels , and the text didn't say they were helped . That's what a confuse person resort to when they have no answers.

The spirit in 1 Peter is human that's why an ignoramus like you have to twist it that Jesus went their to PREACHED JUDGMENT to them

I will enlighten you.

" And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire "

[first and foremost]

Those in the sea, who died in waters were not released by hell, but by the sea.

See ignorance in display

Lemme keep laughing

The text of 1Pet 3 was reffering to those in the days of Noah, the humans of that time died in the Waters/Sea !!!. They clearly are not the ones in the so called hell prison.

HELL PRISON....yet the dumbest was claiming HUMAN BODY is needed in Hell but still claiming they are ANGELS.

Anyway, the point is the people in PRISON in 1 Peter are Spirit beings.

This point to human in Hell.

This is the second irrefutable proof. Apart from the human body proof.

Keep it up

Then Book of life was still rechecked, showing they were not condemned in any prison before, if they were there won't be any need to recheck. Unless your dumb theology means God make mistake .

Your ignorance won't allow you to grab the point.

But lemme infused knowledge into your dumb skull again, which will take us back to the initial point.

1. Human has spirit in them
2. At death this spirit returned to GOD Eccl 12:7.
3. Since people destination after death was determined by their life on earth. The righteous have a place they will be until final judgement likewise the wicked.
4. Heaven is for righteous people while hell fire if for wicked. Both the righteous and the wicked will be resurrected to face the FINAL JUDGEMENT.
5. The final judgement for the righteous is to receive various crown while the final judgement for the wicked is to lake of fire together with the devil.

You are dumb

You're super dumber

"Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."- NIV

Jesus said both, so show me body at 1pet ?

Mumu

Ode.... you still don't get it, Jesus didn't say BOTH MUST BE, that's still your ignoramus in play.

cornelboy:
Revelation 20:14
[14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Are hell and death something that could be cast and burn in fire?
Or does the lake of fire symbolise something else?

The title of your thread, shows you're a liar!

Who are the Christians who couldn't answer it?

Do you believe anybody outside your organization to be CHRISTIAN?

Are you a christians or JWs?

Janosky:
Did you see the Greek word "Dia autou" THROUGH him" @ Colossians 1:16?

Now here come the mouth changer

Was the word "OTHER" found in the Bill Mounce Greek interlinear?

Yes, you Emusan did.

So it's me that inserted that fraudulent word in your translation

"Other" is justifiably inserted for clarity.

As usual, he can't call his fraudulent organization out for that fraudulent insertion rather the INSERTION is justifiable when the same wasnt part of Bill Mounce Greek interlinear.

Anyway, The Word "God" was used in that 1 Timothy 3:16 for clarity which is justifiable too

Colossians 1:15-16 proven Jesus is the channel/agency of Creation.
Hebrew1:2 exposed Trinitarians fraud.

You're the one exposing your fraudulent organization for dubious insertion here

Off course they lied. John 20:17 Jesus Christ said so.

Thanks for letting us know the fraudulent insertion your organization did.

Hebrew1:2 , Greek "Dia autou THROUGH him" is also at Colossians 1:16..
Emusan is grasping at straws.
Hebrews & Colossians proven Jesus is NOT the Creator

I'm still looking for the word "OTHER" that your fraudulent organization inserted in Bill Mounce Greek interlinear, have you seen it?


Lying liar jaNosense like his father the Devil

You keep sounding like a broken record, LYING.

because your fraudulent organization is always get exposed.

Where is the word "OTHER" appeared in Bill Mounce Greek interlinear?

Phillipians 2:7 NWT.
"No, but he emptied himself and took a slave's form and became human"

Same message in Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear.

Emusan LYING as usual.

Oya quote the same Phil 2:9 from Bill Mounce Greek interlinear and your fraudulent NWT, let's see if the word "OTHER" appeared in BMGI

Lying liar JWs worshipper of lying 8 old men

Janosky:
Na which prayer dey 1 Corinthians 1:2?
These Trinity frauds Sabi forgery too much

You're too blind to have seen that @color part in my post

mhmsadyq:
Ok.
Why did the angel (satan) disobeyed god?

Funny how you're asking me this

If you answer that, then apply to why the jinn disobeyed god.

I'm only here to show you the rationale behind why Allah will give command to Angels but Satan who is not an angel got punished for the command that wasn't meant for him.

Iblis even though was with the angels wasn't an angel as Allah told us. Angels can't disobey Allah

This is the point I'm after, if Iblis who isn't an angel didn't follow Allah commandment of ALL ANGELS should bow to Adam, why was he punished for that commandment which wasn't meant for him?

Allah created both the angels and the jinns. He told us who is which.

That's not the point here, the point is why would Iblis got punished for that?

Something must wrong somewhere!

RealTalker02:
More and closest refer to the same thing,

They are not! Stop saying nonsense.

one person claim to know the Father than all others , is it the son or the spirit?

Do you know the son? Is the question you've been avoiding since

Don't forget this your point "The statement said " nobody ( other person's or people ) knows the son except the Father "

So do you know the son?

Buddy you lost ?

Says the dumb skull who has been jumping from Pilar to post since

RealTalker02:
I love where this is going buddy.

- this prison is the same as hell , For this to refer to humans, both body and soul is required.

Says who? You the confused one

Which doesn't exist here, this is a reference to angels,and angels are not helped.

That's a reference to human, Jesus didn't come to help Angels

- secondly they already received judgement. But Hell , this prison, release the dead in it and the book of life was checked for their sakes, which means some names were found in the book of life how come ? Who condemn them to prison in the first place when they are innocent ?

Oponu both hell and workers of iniquity were still cast into lake of fire.

You mean you are struggling with seeing both body and soul are present in hell ? Not just some spirit ?

Again, Jesus never said BOTH body and soul, that's just your ignorance of the scripture.

RealTalker02:
You are dumb.

The statement said " nobody ( other person's or people ) knows the son except the Father

So are you not part of that OTHER PERSON'S OR PEOPLE?

see dumbest in higher places

It's not saying anyone that knows the Son is the Father but none of them know him close to how the Father does .

Keep jumping from Pilar to post for different meanings.

Only you know how many meanings you've given that single verse

That's even Different to the matter at hand .

We are given two different texts where two persons alluded to be the closest to the Father. Who is the liar ?

Not "MORE" again but "CLOSEST"

RealTalker02:
There is no help in the text, no part of the text said Jesus release and free the Angels. That's help, buddy, you did comprehension in school ?

Keep changing mouth.

the condemned spirits are already in prison which means they already received judgment, yet the dumb skull still claiming Jesus preached JUDGMENT to them

God destroy Both body and soul in hell, both have to exist . This is out of the picture in the 1Pet verse. Stop being blind

Keep struggling with that scripture your deliverance is on the way

Am the one giving you bible study here Buddy

I can see from your dumb skull

RealTalker02:
If I lie, point out the lie or keep shut.

I've done that, which you're still contending with

Jesus statement means he knows the Father than anyone else , True or false ?

Just as the same Jesus statement means anyone who knows the son should be the Father yet you know the son

Two different texts saying Different things begs the question: Who knows the Father more ?

Keep adding to the text until your dumb doctrine is satisfied

RealTalker02:
"Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. "
Matt 10:28

God doesn't destroy just soul in hell, he destroy both, simple English , meaning both exist in hell.

You're displaying your ignoramus more keep it up.

I won't give you the Bible study you're craving for.

How did you place spirit in prison or hell text to mean human spirit where there body isn't there ? Is God destroying only one thing?

Your lack of comprehension is the one putting you into more confusion, I understand

Why you are so blind buddy?

If I'm blind, I won't be able to see in other to tell you that Jesus didn't come to help Angels but human as you lied earlier

Definitely, you're the blind and dumb skull here

RealTalker02:
I do , but not as The Father.

Interesting from the lying liar

You will agree the context is not saying others don't know the Father , but none come close to the Son

From the lying liar mouth.

It's now about the context

Which begs the question: going by what Jesus said and what Paul said, who knows the Father more between this two persons, Jesus or Holy spirit ?

Yet the context isn't about WHO KNOWS THE FATHER MORE, that's just from your twisted mouth

RealTalker02:
locked !

With padlock and chain

RealTalker02:
Yes , correct .... One can't exist without the other , the text said " BOTH."

That's the whole point.

You added it because it suits your dumb doctrine.

I like that

RealTalker02:
If human spirit is a being, wht then is the soul that goes to hell ?

Are they the same Despite used differently in same sentences.

I still demand this @Emusan

You can keep asking confused soul

RealTalker02:
Buddy, of all persons that exist ... i who knows the Father more, is it the son or the spirit ?

Do you know the son? Ode...

RealTalker02:
You can preach judgement on a person. The text didn't say he went and deliver them from the prison.

You're still lying keep it up, only if you know how dumb you sound.

Those are not humans, for an human to be in hell, they need their human body.

They are human spirits

Jesus use " both " body and soul , Don't be a fool.

And you added "MUST"

Lying liar and confused person

RealTalker02:
No one knows the Father except the Son means nobody else comes close to the person of the son, no other person! I understand you are going through cognitive dissonance.

This force the statement that No one knows the things of God except the spirit of God to be either Lie or the spirit is not a person.

Lemme rephrase your point to you again "No one knows the Son except the Father means nobody else comes close to the person of the Father, no other person! I understand you are going through cognitive dissonance since you claim to know the son

RealTalker02:
Jesus will judge angels.

Dumb skull, "preaching to" has changed to "judge"

Fear him who can throw body and soul in hell, are you blind? You can't see body ?

I'm not but it's evident you're blind and a liar because Jesus didn't say "that body and soul MUST be together in hell" as you implied earlier

RealTalker02:
I only test a theology. Spirit of God is a person

Or you're displaying your ignoramus

According to the Bible , no one knows the things of God except the spirit of God. Which means spirit of God if it's a person is far closer to the Father than Jesus.

Correct according to the holy book

Whereas Jesus said this is impossible, no one knows the Father except the Son.

Which the first statement you made is a lie, ko?

See the reason I said you're confused

This is a blatant contradiction here, Either Jesus lied or Paul lied.

No contradiction just the way your brain was wired to understand it.

Idiots who held to Trinity can't even solve this dillema, two persons claiming to be the closest, one must be true and the other either a liar or not a person to begin with.

We have since even before you were born.

Only the Father knows the son yet you claim to know the son, are you the Father?

RealTalker02:
Ruach as spirit , is the same as Ruach as breath. No difference.

This alone shows how dumb you are.

This is why your ignorance won't allow you answer what is a soul, if spirit is a being

Your dumb skull can't figure that out.

Your scholars are dumb

Psalm 104:29 describe Ruach for ALL CREATURES as their breath !

Alright Mr much sense

A text about preaching proves this is for people with a mind. To preach is to send a message. This totally rule out the idea of human spirit as a being, their thoughts has perish. They can't be preached to !!

Says the dumbest mind.

Do more reading on what that verse mean, maybe your empty skull will grab it

It even said " prison" not hell, to claim some people go to prison and some other to hell proved God is partial. You are forced to read prison as hell. Which is not there because of your ignorance

After your lying mouth was exposed that Jesus didn't come to help Angels, I understand though

If the text refer to human, I ask how come their human body is not there ? Is Jesus lying now that body and soul MUST be together in hell ?

Jesus never said that just your dumb skull did.

Read what Jesus said again, this time slowly and slowly