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Maximus69:
ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan!

Where you failed woefully to reason is the husband and wife reverential treatment that's going on in your false religious groups!

Let me help you out even though you'll still continue agitating blindly, but i'm less concerned because your head is where the agonizing pain lies!

You're free to refute this by mentioning the name of the wife of just one single Apostle.

So the GB do have wives but these women don't feature at all, that's why you can't see their children inheriting the position of the GB, once women are allowed to be part of the church committee, they will like their children to be included! Matthew 20:20-23

That's why JW organization can't fall for the bait of nepotism Sir!

As expected....just see the way the deluded shameless lair shifted point. It's now about their wives! When he couldn't provide a single pastor who handed his church to his children.

See the idiot who wanted to deny GB having wife by claiming MAJORITY of them don't marry! now openly acknowledged that "So the GB do have wives..." this is the Christlike you people are portraying indeed.

Jesus never got married and never appointed any female Apostle so none of his Apostles brought their wives forward to be honoured as ministers in the first century.

Just look at this statement from a deluded and shameless liar of JWs all bcoz his 8 men of God must always be right!

Maximus69:
ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan!


Jesus never chose any beggar as one of his Apostles, they were all those who stuck with him throughout all his trials Sir! Luke 22:28-30
No member of the GB thought of becoming what they are today and mind you they're not religious celebrities revered by worldly politicians like your own people.
If not those who are making research to know the source of our strong faith and unity nobody knows them out there.
Just as Pharisees Saddusees Scribes and Priests had to bribe Judas Iscariot in order to identify Jesus,worldly people can't know any member of our GB. Very much unlike your own folks that go about with heavily armed guards to protect them after they've gained the popularity they pursued all their life.
So don't kill yourself with envy Emusan, the GB is a group whom God has blessed, ten billion Emusan can't curse them!

Always displaying his dimwitted sense....

From where the GB are chosen?

Are the children of the deluded GB in the Bethel?

Can you show us any pastor who handed over his church to any of his children?

You boldly lie against pastors that for their children to continue to scam people that's the reason they put their children in their own ministries and you called it FAMILY BUSINESS but when the table was turned your dirty hypocritical mouth was dancing around.

The Bible speaks against false accusations and even enjoining us to search and hold that which is fact but because your God of Men must be defended, you don't mind making any false accusations against people.

Maximus69:
ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan!

Bethel is for who wants to serve voluntarily so they're everywhere throughout the earth. There is no way you can convince someone to abandon what he cherished to leave it for such selfless service, they choose it by themselves.
The GB aren't bethelites but long serving traveling overseers who are qualified to be part of that group Sir!

I guess the GB are randomly chosen from those beggers sitting under Ikeja Bridge

But you can open your dirty & stinky mouth to accuse others for doing the same thing just because it wasn't done under your demonic organization.

Shameless hypocrite and liar like your father the Devil!

Maximus69:
ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan!

I've answered you sir, bethelites are everywhere that you can find JWs but the GB are in the US just as the Apostles of Jesus were stationed in Jerusalem!

The Bethel in the USA, do the Children of GB are there or not?

Can you tell us any pastor(s) who handed over his church to any of his children before you falsely accused them of doing Family business?

Hypocrite!

So stop hitting your head on the walls it's not good for your health Sir!

The cry of a deluded and shameless liar who always get pained whenever his 8 men of God were mentioned.

Maximus69:
ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan!

Making false accusation and think it's funny is the height of stupidity.

Most of the members of the GB never had any children Sir!
They served all their lives as traveling overseers, and travelling overseers in JWs aren't supposed to have children just like Apostle Paul.
The bethel family are brothers and sisters from different places and in each country there is one bethel, therefore they're not the ones who do graduate to become GB, it's traveling overseers just as Jesus' Apostles left their family lives to start following him everywhere he goes! Luke 18:28-30
So calm down Mr Emusan, you don't know anything about Jehovah's Witnesses Organization!

I always know you're not that intelligent but as usual we'll keep spoon feeding you with basic knowledge until you grow.

You said "MOST....."

To an intelligent mind you keep exposing your ignorance.

So others that have children, do they ensure their children be in the Bethel?

The reason I made this statement earlier The only person his sense of humor is blur is the person who refuses to acknowledge that in every organisation there's always a bad eggs but using the bad eggs to judge the rest and when the table is turned shift blame on in his own bad eggs it's so glaring.

Can you give us the name of the pastor(s) who handed over his church to any of his children?

Shameless Hypocrite JWs always sacrificing his conscience to defend his demonic 8 men of God.

Maximus69:
ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan!

Well there is a big difference between being a member of the bethel family and being a member of the GB.
There are thousands of our brothers serving as bethelites but just 8 members serving as the GB Sir!

That's why you'll always remain hypocrite!

Are they not the same part of Bethel family the person(s) to succeed another GB will be chosen from?

All the GB ensure their children get to Bethel why you till you will even die might not step your foot there but can come here and say what pastors are doing is a FAMILY BUSINESS but when the table is turned to you, watchtower must be defended.

Shameless Hypocrite

Maximus69:
That's the result of misinterpretation!

I've told you what the verse mean but if you're not OK with it, go and practice your own Christianity as you're pleased Sir, no wahala!

See how brainwashing is destroying your life.

Gal 1:19 is a misinterpretation by who?

See how your own lying book put it "But I did not see any of the other apostles, only James the brother of the Lord"

Are you even saying the children of the GB are not part of people in Bethel?

TATIME:
Oga Emusan!
See the time you posted this.
Are you sure you're still OK?
Haba! 2am due to hatred for the truth, you can't even sleep!
Only God can deliver you o!

Here come the fake elder...

And what concerned you about the time I post on NL?

How many JWs God has delivered?

So because your deluded brother said "by then the holy spirit has not been released to monitor the worshipers so that selfishness and promiscuity can't be,"

And I showed him what were found within the demonic organization after the release of the Holy Spirit means hate truth.

Hypocrite come join fake elder!

Maximus69:
If you're not deceiving yourself how many of the bolded here in Nigeria that has been reported amongst JWs?

See this hypocrite!

You made a claim but when your lie and hypocrisy is exposed you'll change mouth.

This is your initial claim "...by then the holy spirit has not been released to monitor the worshipers so that selfishness and promiscuity can't be..."

Now that the Holy Spirit had been released, why do such acts still reign in your demonic organization?

Also, see the hypocrite now limiting it to Nigeria, are JWs not ONE all over the world again?

But you can use Nigeria Christiandom to judge the rest of the Christianity.

That's why most of my brothers call you "mumungus" Sir!

Even Jesus was accused of having evil spirit

The Jesus story you and i are hearing today differs completely from the reports that Pharisees,Saddusees,Scribes,Priests and others Jewish Rabbis wish to spread about him. That's why till today most Jews condemned the reports his followers penned down referred to as gospels.
If you're not really stupid, in your own locality here in Nigeria how many reports of Adultery, Child abuse and Divorce cases have you heard amongst God's people?

So Nigeria JWs and JWs in the rest of the world aren't the same again simply because JWs in the rest of the world are still doing what the old people were doing when "by then the holy spirit has not been released to monitor the worshipers so that selfishness and promiscuity can't be,..."

When you also know that even the deluded 8men GB reside in the very place where these acts are so prominent.

You choose to blur your senses to what is happening in your neighbourhood but you want to parade the mixed reports from far distant lands that you can't even verify!

People have testified about their encounter with JWs in Nigeria on this forum just as people have testified about other religions they came in contact with.

We have seen testimonies that commend you guys likewise testimonies that exposed the other side.

The only person his sense of humor is blur is the person who refuses to acknowledge that in every organisation there's always a bad eggs but using the bad eggs to judge the rest and when the table is turned shift blame on the bad eggs

If not for Jehovah's Witnesses the Bible will always remain a myth because all the reports of how the Christians were well organized with LOVE JOY and PEACE can't be found today except amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!

Says the deluded JWs who forgot that Billions still belief in the Bible.

I can see the LOVE, JOY and Peace indeed

No wonder my friend's mum (both Father & mother are all JWs) refused her to marry a witness Guy (both father and mother are JWs too)....so much for the self parade LOVE

OP asked a question based on what is happening throughout the earth today as the so called Men Of God can't maintain a family of God fearing children, you have no shame to run for cover but instead you want to accuse the one and only organization that's maintaining God fearing children throughout the earth.

People have answered OP by even cited example from the scripture, do you agree with them? No! but you simply inject your delusions into it forgotten that there's a log of wood in your eyes while you're busy looking at the beam in someone's else eyes.


Hypocrite!

Stop deceiving yourself Mr Emusan, go and tell people in your neighbourhood that Jehovah's Witnesses children aren't fine examples of God fearing children and see how sincere people will look at you.

You can do that about another Christian body

Then you'll know whether it's i who left my former Religion to join JWs due to their God fearing that's a hypocrite or you that's hitting your head on the walls of falsehood!

God fearing
Yet

Child Abuse
Adultery
Divorce

Even a JWs family can stop their daughter to marry to another JWs...

You can keep deceiving yourself and your like with fake love, joy and peace.

No-one can give you peace except Jesus Christ!

Maximus69:
Jesus Christ had junior brothers but none of them was chosen as Apostle, the only two out of about six siblings he had accepted Christianity. So if it's not family business there is nothing that should bring the name of a child into the fold of ministers when all those working together with his father as a team are still alive.
Whatever makes a son to have direct access to the church fund or a say in the affairs of the church when members who have been serving faithfully are still there is no more God's work but family business Sir!

What happened to Eli repeated itself in the life of faithful Samuel as well, by then the holy spirit has not been released to monitor the worshipers so that selfishness and promiscuity can't be, so it happened before Pentecost but after that, God's pure worship has been under the strict watch of the spirit so that deceit or promiscuity can't hold anymore! Act 5:1-11

And as for Pastors loosing a tight hold on his family with the flimsy excuse of taking care of God's flock is no excuse Sir! 1Timothy 3:5

Yet

Adultery
Child Abuse
Divorce

Still reign in your demonic organization.

Keep lying for your demonic god!

Hypocrite!

FOLYKAZE:
This is very unusual of me. But in a time like this, I have no other option than to seek the help of Nairalanders.

I am on here seeking help to save the life of my wife and our baby. She is asthmatic and currently pregnant. It happens that lately, just as soon as she get to third trimester, she is having several asthma attacks. We reported to the General Hospital where drugs and injections were been administered on her. Each of these treatment relieve her from the attack. In the past four days though, the treatments both injection and drug stop working or maybe weren't effective and the attack became more frequent. She was placed on oxygen.

The doctor prescribed that he had to operate my wife, safely separate and remove the foetus. The foetus is 36weeks old, and we are due to deliver him/her in two weeks time. His reasons are, forceful and hasten delivery would be more better, as he doesn't want the heavy breathing to affect the foetus health.

The same doctor after spending four days, and wasted all resources informed us on Monday evening that he would not be able to handle the operation any longer due to increasing rises in BP and alarming difficulty in my wife breathing. He therefore referred us to Mother and Child Specialist Hospital in Ondo town. Either way, I want both my wife and child alive sound and healthy.

We got an ambulance and made our way to Ondo. On getting here, specialists told us there won't be need for surgical operation as the baby is stable despite the mother condition. He added that is my wife condition is not stabilized, he will opt for operation. We had our sigh of relief but the painful side of it all is the enormous charges and cost of getting things. I have paid for all form of drugs, injections, tubes, drips and many other things I can't remember.

We have spent every dime we have on us. Called home, neighbours and family for some support but the little from them have been exhausted. Because we ain't paying instantly, we well denied access to some laboratory tests, drugs, and injections. This is happening despite the fact that we are both registered resident of Ondo state and have our ID. Surprisingly though, the card has no effect on the exorbitant charges and cost of medical items.

Presently now, we have exhausted our savings and have nothing left. She is a private school teacher, while I am cocoa produce buyer serving as apprentice.

Last year, we lost a child. We do not want a repeat of this. I wholeheartedly need every help that can be rendered to save the life of my wife and child. Nothing is too small at this point. Thanks

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Sorry this is happening right now in your family but it's for the glory of God. Trust me this is the time you'll recognize the awesome power of God as a proof to what you've been asking for so long ---- Does God exist?

My prayer is with your wife and baby...as the good Lord will bestow His mercy on her and grant her safe delivery without operation. Amen!

Now take a bold step of faith, acknowledge your sin before Almighty God, enter the safe delivery room, lay hand on your wife and declare safe delivery upon her. She will not be operated on and you'll come back to this platform to share your testimony.

freshboi88:
In your mind u have made sense MUMU.

U just shout without making sense. So in all these firstborns, who did God create first?

You can see the way he explained away the term FIRSTBORN as being APPOINTED and having a FAVOR/ BLESSINGS over another which is the right interpretation of it in the scripture but still trying to explain Jesus as FIRSTBORN to mean FIRSTCREATED.

Look at this statement of his "Jesus , "the firstborn of every creature" earned the right of firstborn above every creature of God. Jesus obedience to his God and Father further earned him EXCLUSIVE Blessings above every son of God". Phil 2:9.

NOTICED that this simply means Jesus was APPOINTED as firstborn over all creations not that the verse means Jesus was the FIRSTCREATED being.

awhybliss:
he is with biblical definition...
We have several of them... But there a God which is supreme to all gods even to Jesus.. he's Jehovah..

You're still confused!

A deity deserves worship and reverence, why didn't you worship and reverence Jesus?

There shouldn't be any God supreme to another God if both have the same qualities and attributes.

awhybliss:
to be a God, it must be a deity, A supernatural, typically immortal being with superior powers.
JEHOVAH: The personal name of God in the Hebrew Scriptures; (for those who believe in Christ)
So both questions are yes

So Jesus is a deity, a supernatural, immortal being with superior Power like Jehovah...

Then why didn't you worship and reverence Jesus?

awhybliss:
Jesus is a God!!..
God is a noun (A supernatural, typically immortal being with superior powers.) Sango, ogun, Buddha,Jesus and many more have these attributes of been called God.. usage of capital letter to write capital "G" is introduced by British scholars many centuries back. God didn't tell us to use capital for him or not.. British is a God serving country, so to make a difference between JEHOVAH and other gods when writing, they come up with this ideal of using capital "G", so that they could get to know we are referencing the supreme God above when we see the "G" in writing, (and here in Nigeria, we learn the British English)
Mind you, every God has it name, the name of the one I serve name is (JEHOVAH), he declare his name in the book of Exodus, He reference there are several God, but he made himself clear that "I am the ALL-mighty God" the God of all gods.
The most important thing is that is that you know the God you serve, and even know his name..
NOTE: there are some places in India especially where we have monks (Hindi), if you tell them God bless you, in there "state of mind" they think you are are referring to (Buddha), in some India films, if you read the subtitle under the bottom screen, they sometimes write God bless you, they write the "God" capital "G" but put Buddha in bracket..
So Jesus isn't exempted from being a God, because he have the attributes, but he's not "Jehovah" his own name is "YESHUA", but endorsed by JEHOVAH and operate in the spirit mind of JEHOVAH, (that's a mystery you and I can't understand)
share this post to pass the knowledge

I just have two questions for you

What does it mean to be A God?

Is Jehovah also A God?

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Peacefullove:
Who made the False Gods ? Focus on " I have said "

Idiotic person always attacking a straw man argument.

Who made the next statement? If they are not false god or are you saying the statement "I have said" means they are TRUE GOD?

Which God is Jesus Christ if He's not our God that's the question?

One God, the Father , from whom all things are . u can rest please

This is why Nobody is Jesus sons.

And your deluded mind didn't also know that the same ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH JESUS....

So Jesus Christ is the Creator and you're His creature that's why even the new birth is still through Christ.

Jesus himself said I have ONE FATHER not two . You need to be schooled

Hebrew 2:13 doesnt support your claim , The Creator need nobody to give him children.

Idiot, the point is, did Jesus have Children?

The Bible says Yes! And that makes Him a Father!

That is why He was called Everlasting Father

What your head didnt tell you was not even Abraham sons are his, children are a gift from who according to your Bible ?

Were you not the one who was saying since Jesus doesn't have son or anyone called His son means He can't be our God....

So since Abraham has son that should make him OUR GOD...

Devil was called FATHER , does that means he own or created those he called Father or figurative ?

Use sense na

This is where you've short yourself in the legs and this also proves that you're actually a manipulative just like your father the devil.

Devil was called a father because he owns those people who decided to join him likewise Christ is called a Father because ALL THOSE HE RESCUED ARE ALL BELONGS TO HIM, so ALL BELIEVERS ARE CHRIST SONS AND DAUGHTERS.

This is not figurative but the truth because whoever belong to the Devil God can't be His father again.

Does the Father call anyone his brothers ?

But the Father called people His friends.
How can a creator have friends? Ode

Besides, you haven't answered my question, does what the Father has belongs to Christ?

Nope, Hebrew 2 vs 11 says he called them brothers because they all have the same Father. Are you saying Jesus didnt have a Father before coming to earth?

Read the verse from beginning and stop being silly...

Just one.

His Fatherhood is figurative. He has no sons, the worse is he was given sons , that means HE IS NOT THE OWNER . further proof he is not our God

At least you know Christ is a Father but not just father but Everlasting Father but you just decided to call it FIGURATIVE....when every evident from the scripture pointed that we ALL BELONG to Christ.

Not only that, the scripture says WHATEVER THE FATHER HAS belongs to Jesus Christ.

Just see the way you're speaking from both side of your idiotic mouth....You're claiming He doesn't have sons in one breath in another breath you're claiming "the worst is he was given SONS"

So you know very well that Christ has sons but still allowing your deluded mind to be deceiving you.

He isn't our Father ... Neither are we his children, we are BROTHERS.

But you just said it above now that "He was given SONS"

I know you're not Christ Children that's why you're not belong to Him.

Figurative , are we not his brothers ?

You can't be brother to your Father.

For you even to say FIGURATIVE means you know what the scripture says but just decided to give it your own meaning!

But you can be a friend to your Creator...

Nobody is called Jesus sons. To make it worse you even gave a verse that said he was GIVEN chidren , showing he didnt Own them , cos they are STill his BROTHERS .

But you said he was given SONS....

So what you're given didn't belong to you anymore.

If someone gave you a car, it means the car still belong to that person and not yours bah?

Keep rejecting your saviour!

Peacefullove:
Good story telling skills ,

Here is the verse Mr scriptural understanding

" I -- I have said, 'Gods ye are, And sons of the Most High -- all of you, "

Look at the bold, I HAVE SAID ... Was God making False God ??

What God are those humans whom God made God ?

The next verse "But Ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes"

So it's evident here that this are all false god!

What God is Jesus if He wasn't OUR God?

Jesus is not the Creator , Nobody is his sons !!! Agent is not creator

Jesus is the Creator of Heavens and the earth

But who performed the action, if Agent isn't creator?

Jesus has Children Heb 2:13 Just like I said before, you're not one of His children so you might not regard Him as your father.

Does that make him OUR GOD?

Idiotic person, were you not the one who was saying since Jesus doesn't have son or anyone called His son means He can't be our God....

So since Abraham has son that should make him OUR GOD...

He will be called Everlasting Father because God sent him to pay for mans sin ( John 3:16)

So how can someone who doesn't have a son be called FATHER not to talk of EVERLASTING Father?

I'm still laughing at your delusion of how Everlasting FATHER suddenly became paying for man's sin.

This is what your deluded organization said "Why is Jesus properly called “Eternal Father”?

Jesus was also to be an “Eternal Father.”How would that be? Well, Adam was the first father of the human race. However, he lost the opportunity to be an “eternal father” when he sinned. He could no longer give his children everlasting life as an inheritance. Jesus, on the other hand, did not sin. And by sacrificing his sinless life for mankind, he opened the way to everlasting life for those who exercised faith. ( John 3:16; 1 John 2:2 ) He thus will give them the everlasting life that Adam failed to give them. Hence, the Bible calls him “the last Adam,” “a life-giving spirit.” ( 1 Corinthians 15:45 ) He is properly called the “Eternal Father” of the future perfect human race.


https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1983725

Jesus himself Belong to who ?

Idiot answer my question and stop being silly using question to ask question...


Did anything belong to the Father belong to Christ?

If Devil is not using you, Show me where Jesus is called OUR GOD?

We all know who is working for the devil here...

I've shown you different verses.

I can also see how you boycotted my question "Where was Jesus called Angel Micheal in the scripture?"

Use your glasses, I wrote " according to you "

So how could he be Father and brother at the same time ?

He became brother by sharing in the Human Nature of the very Adam.

He remains our EVERLASTING FATHER in place of Adam.

So how many Father do you have?

Who are Jesus sons ??

All those who He rescued from the pan of sin caused by the first father-Adam so Jesus is the second Adam....which make Him OUR FATHER.

Jesus is our brother NOt Father ... That alone is exposing you for the lair u are

No wonder you're not one of His Children because all those Jesus rescued from the sun of Adam we're All His sons and daughters.

because He's now the Second Adam

Show me where anyone is called Jesus son ?? You are the real demonic person

Heb 2:13 and also Jesus is the second Adam that's why we must be BORN AGAIN through Christ.

Since you're not born again how will you even recognize Him as your Father?

And that's actually what the devil your father wants.

Peacefullove:
Mumu , U don arrive after your vacation ... Have you now gotten the verse where Jesus is called our God now ? Still No ?

Was God making False Gods when he called us Gods ? Mumu

Silly man.
Just as you didnt believe humans are false Gods, do you actually agree God was making false Gods?

The verse you reference was about human rulers who are making wrong Judgement on behalf of God. So they are false God that's even why the next verse Called on the TRUE GOD to execute His true judgement on the source CALLED gods.

God will execute His judgement on the source called gods, will Jesus part of them?

Can you see how your lack of scriptural understanding is leading you into more trouble?

Where is " OUR GOD " in those verses ??

What God is Jesus if He's not OUR God?

Where am I called Jesus son? Are you okay at all?

But you're Jesus sheep

Nobody is ever called Jesus son. Take it today! Jesus is not the creator. That is why you will never see anyone addressed as his son

Jesus is our Creator! John 1:3

What of Abraham who we were called his son, does that make him God?

What is the significant of being EVERLASTING FATHER?

Did what the Father has belongs to the Son?

These are the questions you'll continue to dodge because you know they prove you to be a liar like your father the devil.

He came to give everlasting life , the same reason he became our brother according to you

So now it's "he BECAME" not that He was initially our BROTHER, you can see your hypocritical lying mouth being exposed. Isn't that what I said earlier that He wasn't our brother not until He became human?

Just imagine "EVERLASTING FATHER suddenly translated to He came to give everlasting life"

At least show me where anyone is called Jesus son ?

because He's your Everlasting Father

I have not seen where someone will be called a father without having a child.

U already stated a reason. So coming to save man make him our brother NOT Father ??

" He called humans His brothers and sisters because He came to save them" - Emusan

It seems your head has issues when u are trying to use Isaiah 9:6, cos it clearly said shall/will be called . now its Brothers

Idiot....was that only attribute that was applied to Jesus throughout the Bible?

Jesus is our EVERLASTING FATHER, I know you're not His son that's why He will discard you on that day.

Just like I said, I will post your demonic organization comment about Isa 9:6 and what they express about the team "Everlasting Father"

Janosky:
Acts7:59, you claim Stephen prayed to Jesus. The same Greek word (EPIKALEO) is in Acts 25:11.
Bros, do you agree that Paul prayed to Caesar?
Does Greek EPIKALEO in Acts 7:59 mean "prayer"?

One can only marvel at your ignorance and manipulation of the Holy Bible, and that's because the god of this world has blindfolded your mind.

According to your own attached...

EPIKALEO is to CALL UPON...INVOKE(for aid, worship) e.t.c

So why will Stephen CALL UPON/INVOKE Jesus when we're not to do so?

Or is it proper to INVOKE/Call upon Jesus?

Contemporary English Version, Rev 5:8
After he had taken it, the four living creatures and the 24 elders knelt down before him. Each of them had a harp and a gold bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of God's people."

[b]You no dey diguoh (knee down, bow, prostrate) for your Elders or parents ?
Na worship you dey worship them ?
Revelations 5:10, did the 24 Elders and the Lamb (Jesus) worship the same God in heaven?
Is that God, Jesus Christ?
Bros,Rev5:14, the 24 Elders WORSHIPPED the God of the Lamb, NOT the Lamb. (Revelations 19:4, Bible truth).

So where was Jesus said to be an ELDER in that verse that some ELDERS still bow to Him?

Where in that vs5 that said the Lamb and the elders worshipped the same God? Kai....just see your lying mouth jumping.

See the way you're jumping that verse 13 because you know that "all the living creatures and the 24 elders did the same thing for both Who sitted upon the throne and the Lamb"

When the same Rev 22:1 even makes it clear that the THRONE BELONGS TO God and the Lamb.

Ole.... vs14 they worshipped "...Him that LIVETH forever and ever" and when you also know that Jesus LIVETH forever and ever.

Bros, Matthew 4:10 is IMMUTABLE, you hear?
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Why is the truth so difficult for you to CONFESS?

Was Matt 4:10 removed from Russell and his team of pagan worshippers that made them to Worship and Prayed to Jesus?

Janosky:
Janosky LIENUS, Jesus is not the God of Mr Russell. FACT !!!

Mr Russell NEVER prayed to Jesus Christ.
FACT !!!

WAYO man Na your way. You must ADD your own Maggi and Pepper to TWIST the Fact.

Always attacking a straw man argument!

See broad daylight lie, Russell never prayed to Jesus something that's boldly written by Russell himself....

The seed of your father the devil has really getting into you the more.

So which error /mistakes did you or your demonic organization admit Russell to have made then?

Peacefullove:
So God was making False Gods when he called us Gods ?
Jesus is a false god too if humans and Angel's are false god.

I still demand where Jesus is called OUR GOD ??

Olodo....so you don't even understand that verse where the Bible says "Ye are gods" but open your dirty mouth to spew nonsense.

If Jesus is a false god then Jehovah has being with a false god from beginning.... I know you just said that nonsense for argument sake not that you really believe Jesus is a false god.

John 1:1
Heb 1:6

Quote where Jesus called anyone MY SON ??

Mumu

Ode....if whatever the Father has belongs to the Son, isn't that make you Jesus son?

Besides, Jesus created you and gave you life so, you're His son.

Quote anywhere Jesus called anyone My son ?

What is the significance of being EVERLASTING FATHER is the question you haven't answered since?

Since we're sons of Abraham then Abraham is Jehovah God....oponu

His brothers not his sons ? U no well

Go back and read the book of Hebrew again so that you'll know the reason He called us His brothers and sisters.

Peacefullove:
I dont know . Care to tell me ?

See this mumu
Answer the question. What does the title "Everlasting father' signifies?

Peacefullove:
Brain dead question

Which God are humans and angels ?

Your mumuness still can't find a verse to support Jesus as Our God.

Satan really blinded you

Human and Angels are all false god.

So which God is Jesus if he isn't OUR GOD?

An Elder brother can Act as a Father for his juniors at a PTA meeting , doesnt mean He is their Father.

Who are Jesus sons ?

But at that moment the elder brother acted as a Father, aren't his Junior ones his sons?

Ode....of what use to act as Father when you don't have son?

On the issue of Jesus as Everlasting Father I'll post screenshots later from what your deluded organization teaches to know that you're just going against your own organization as usual.

Mumu , Read that verse again. Jesus call humans his brothers . Jesus is our brother . Nobody is his son.

He called humans His brothers and sisters because He came to save them... oponu read it again to understand what the writer is pointing at.

Peacefullove:
Since I claim or the Fact speaks Its a title? This was why I asked u to tell me any son of Jesus u know , to prove its not just a title.

Can the Title of EVERLASTING FATHER be compared with the title PRINCE OF PEACE?

How can someone have Title that the person doesn't represent?

Peacefullove:
Do u admit he is not OUR GOD ? And no scripture say so ?

Answer my question idiot.

Which God is Jesus if He isn't our God?

Its just a title . the prove is NOBODY is ever called Jesus son.

Let your brain be working

So what is the essence of having a Title If you're not one?

Not even just father but EVERLASTING FATHER....

Your brain is dead.

Sorry man. I know this is bigger than you

Hebrews 2:11 " So now Jesus and the ones he makes holy have the same Father. That is why Jesus is not ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters. " NLT

Jesus is our brother , He is not the Creator just an agent. Nobody is ever called his son

Yet you and the very AGENT of creation are Brothers....

That's how you'll know you lack scriptural understanding.

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Peacefullove:
Padi enough of assumptions and imaginations , You can't Provide where The man claimed Jesus is his God ?

Idiotic brainwashed JWs

Who is assuming and imagine things here?

Did Russell not worship and pray to Jesus?

These are the questions again

Then why praying and worshipping another person apart from God?

Empty skull hypocrite!

What does it mean to pray and worship another being apart from God?

If Russell admitted that he was nowhere instructed to pray to Jesus and he went ahead to do so, what does that make him?