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Janosky:
1)
Did you kill everyone who was in Russell's Bible study group?
Who told you every follower of Jesus Christ was alive to grab all his teachings?

1. But do they know Jesus is not to be worshipped?
2. Do the early Christians know Jesus is not to be worshipped?

2)
WAYO man Jesus is Yahweh FRAUD.
John 20:17, Jesus is ascending to meet himself FRAUD man.
Joshua 5:13-15, Jesus is the Angel of his Lord, Yahweh.
Mr LIENUS lacks SENSE, let this word "OF" , reset your brain whenever you here that statement, "Angel OF the Lord,Yahweh".,2Corinthians11:31.
Na Yahweh the angel is working for, Ode.

Mr accolade lying liar JWs.

If you use sceipute to proof Jesus is Angel Michael

1. Was these scriptures not available during the time of Russell?
2. Who inspired that Jesus isn't Michael?

These are the questions that'll continue to expose your fraudulent doctrines.

3) Mr LIENUS no get SENSE.
It will take place in this sequence:
2 Thess1:7-9 , Judgment.
John 5:28-29, Resurrection.
Revelations 5:9,10 , Millennium reign of Christ to correct the resurrected mankind and righteous survivors to perfection.

The deluded JWs here again.

If it's in this order then your fraudulent doctrines are keep exposing the more

7And God will provide rest for you who are being persecuted and also for us when the Lord Jesus appears from heaven. He will come with his mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire, bringing judgment on those who don’t know God and on those who refuse to obey the Good News of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power. NLT

Fact from this scripture:
1. Jesus will come with His mighty Angels, Do this happen in 1914?
2. Bringing judgement on those who don't know God and those who refuse to obey the good news of Lord Jesus, has this been achieved?
3. They will be punish with eternal destruction, when do this happen?

This is an evidence that second coming of Christ is different from the fraud presented by your lying organization.

I know you'll just come and rant again without addressing the main point.

Maximus69:
Are you through with your questions?

One thing that's tormenting you is
you can only ask questions out of a wounded heart, but you can't be the judge at the same time!


Stop hurting yourself, emotional blackmail won't stop us from preaching, teaching and practicing what we believe. I'm only telling you the reason for what i believe, i'm not forcing it on you and neither can you force me to abandon my FAITH.
So if you've got no further questions i'll leave you for now, but have it at the back of your minds that millions are reading what you and i are typing, they'll decide for themselves! Matthew 7:28-29

God bless you!

Imagine, see the frustration of a lost soul!

No wonder you're so restless on Nairaland jumping from thread to thread being tormented.

So if you're not forcing it on people, why so much restlessness in your life?

They'll decide because they know who is twisting the scripture.

Maximus69:
They discovered God's Kingdom will be restored in 1914 and it was so, that's why Jesus came back invisibly after ousting Satan and his demons out of heaven!

I don't even need to go to the fraud of 1914 because it's visible to blind.

The first century Christians knew the truth because Jesus taught them but after his ascension, Satan came to sow weeds in their midst. If you study botany you'll understand that for you farm to sprout well you must uproot the weeds {Matthew 13:24-30} otherwise they will overpower your seeds that's exactly what happened to the TRUTH Jesus laid down back then! That's why he said "when i return, will be i still meet this FAITH?" {Luke 18:8} of course he was contemplating how Satan and his cohorts will turn everything upside down!

I wonder how you people will bring an analogy yet fail to reconcile it with your point. That's pure dullness.

The WHEAT didn't FINALLY eliminate by the WEED this is known by any farmer which means even though there are weeds but it still ABOUND WHEAT among them.

So between the 1st century Christians and the time of Russell, there should be many WHEAT that still remain.

Russell did not fall from the sky, himself and others were the wheat in false religions claiming Christians, that's why Jesus collected them together from different religious groups where they've been serving faithfully under false religions.

So there was not WHEAT before Russell was born.

Then it means the WEED finally eliminated the WHEAT, is that what you read from your own scripture?

Of course their understanding began increasing after Jesus brought them out from Christendom {Revelations 18:4} so Jesus was patient with them as they were willing to accept correction!

How long will it take them for this understanding to be increased?

1. The Bible is already there
2. Holy Spirit as the greatest teacher has already in operation
3. Even adding your lie of Jesus invisibly came to the same people.

So why would they be in this DARKNESS for many years?

What is the essence of Bible, Holy Spirit and Jesus Himself if is still take them years and even died into this wrong teaching?

John and Jesus declared all those who could see the reforms taking place in their presence yet decided to pitch their tents against it! Matthew 3:7-9 ~ [John the baptist] Matthew 12:31-32 ~ [Jesus Christ]
Note that both of them never condemned anyone for blunders but pigheadedness after seeing the fine works of those having God's backing!

You've brought the issue of CONDEMNED again later you'll start twisting your lying mouth.

So how do you think Jesus will now COMDEMN anyone?

And most importantly, the question you're still dodging is, if Jesus actually came with The Holy Spirit to Russell and his pagan team, why did they died in WRONG TEACHING?
I've answered this so carefully read it again
Jesus' work wasn't meant for just the little group that began the reforms, their part is to set the pace for others coming after them to continue with the reform process, since they switched quickly to the little they're able to grasp, God is pleased with them. Remember that John the baptist laid the groundwork to welcome the Messiah yet he died not knowing all about the truth, otherwise his followers won't need to start asking Jesus questions regarding fasting! Matthew 11:2; Mark 2:18

You didn't!

Russell and his pagan team died believing:

1. Worshipping of Jesus Christ is right
2. Jesus died on the Cross
3. They are herald of Jesus

So of what important did Jesus select them if not to change all these wrong teachings?

But alas, Jesus couldn't correct all these but started later, very pathetic!

(1)The essence of Jesus' coming is to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel (humble people who want to worship God acceptably) so the little they're able to grasp is enough all what is required is to obey the last order they knew even if it's just little they'll continue to learn more in Paradise! Luke 23:43
(2) Yes Jesus spent 33 1/2 years and after his resurrection he opens their minds but they didn't grasp everything immediately, that's the work of God's Holy Spirit to continue from where Jesus stopped {John 14:26} so those who died before the Bible book of Revelations was given to Apostle John in the year 96ce missed out in those sacred secrets!

But they know where they can find the quote "lost sheep of the house of Israel" in the Bible but couldn't find that Jesus is not to be worshipped.

Many years before Russell was born, Bible is already in plain English which is the very own Russell tongue.

So tell me, how the truth in the Bible in the 1st century to Russell time difference from now that made you know so much than him despite claiming to be inspired by the Holy Spirit?

(1) The misconception is the result of Satan's weeds that overshadowed Jesus' wheat! Matthew 13:24-30
(2) Jesus' wheat has the Bible but due to being outnumbered by the weed they couldn't connect one another until the reforms began when Jesus returned in the spirit! Matthew 13:38-40

See another bold twisting of the scripture!

Jesus didn't say, the WEED will overshadow the WHEAT but they'll grow together and ON THE LAST DAY, they'll be separated!

So, it's evident that there will always abound a WHEAT.

So how many WHEAT were there before Russell was born?

27 “The farmer’s workers went to him and said, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’ 28 “‘An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed. “‘Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked. 29 “‘No,’ he replied, ‘you’ll uproot the wheat if you do. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.’” NLT

You can see Jesus Himself isn't the HARVESTERS (plural) because Jesus Himself said "He will send His ANGELS to gather all His followers at the four CORNERS of the world"

This is judgement time!

The more you realize the damage wrong watchtower teaching has done to you the easier for you to loose yourself from the pan of yoke.

Let them prove it by making LOVE JOY and PEACE reign in their midst just as Jesus foretold that we'll see in the midst of his own TRUE followers! Matthew 5:13-16 compare to James 2:18-26

And who told you there's no LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their midst?

Can you provide a video of any gathering of the TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST where they're using chair and table to fight each other?

A statement from my JWs girlfriend "My Aunty died unhappy" why? because of what the organization did to her...

Like I do say, you can keep claiming false love, joy & peace for your organization but the reality is on ground.

If it's not lost Christians won't take up weapons against one another in the name of Politics and Racism {Matthew 26:52 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10, 14:33} that's happening before the reforms Jesus made after 1914!

So you're claiming before 1914 100% of Christians then we're LOST CHRISTIANS and participated in the WAR, POLITICS AND RACISM?

You're just irredeemable liar!

Maximus69:
The difference is clear between accurate and more accurate Sir!

There are things a Muslim, Churchgoer, JW will say about Jesus that's accurate but what makes the difference is the result {James 2:18-26} of accurate knowledge about Jesus the Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6-7 compare to Micah 4:1-3
If the teachings failed to unite all the adherents as one just as Jesus fervently prayed for {John 17:20-23} then there is still room for more adjustments!

Just keep deluding yourself!

The disciples found a man performing miracles in Jesus name and the disciples thought since the man wasn't following them (They and Jesus up and down) or part of their group they should stop him.

John said to Jesus, “Teacher, we saw someone using your name to cast out demons, but we told him to stop because he wasn’t in our group.” 39 “Don’t stop him!” Jesus said. “No one who performs a miracle in my name will soon be able to speak evil of me. 40 Anyone who is not against us is for us. Luke 9:49 NLT

That would have been a perfect time for Jesus to talk about a GROUP by claiming since the man didn't belong to His group then he has nothing in Him but no He said "Anyone who is not against us is for us"

Notice: This man didn't even engage in any sort of teaching but just performing miracles in THE NAME of Jesus.

Janosky:
After JWs give you, this "Expo", you go twist am dey confuse sheeples wey no know dia left from dia right .

Just as your deluded organization is confusing you because you don't know your left from your right.

John 15:15. 16:16-18, Jesus Christ is teaching his disciples, he was even with them.. but them no grasp everything he taught them.. they still make mistakes.
Luke chapter 24, Jesus continuously correcting them after his ascension...
Receive SENSE

But did they still grab His teachings or they all died WITHOUT GRABBING THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS?

You'll never receive sense

*2)
Joshua 5:13-15. Jesus christ is the angel...., Jesus is the same angel in the book of Daniel fighting for Yahweh's servants.
Yahweh the only true God, can never be an angel. . Go and beg your trinitarian scholars who are aware to school you

So you have Bible as a guidance to know this yet back and forth confusion about Jesus is Michael.

1. Jesus is Michael
2. No! Jesus isn't Michael
3. Yes! Jesus is Michael

Who taught the second wrong teaching "Jesus Himself and the Holy Spirit or Satan?

*3) Bros, not everyone knew of Jesus Christ ascension, likewise , not everyone will know he is executing judgment. 2 Thess1:7-9

Is it every human that believes Jesus is the Christ?

The few ones who know about it, did they see Jesus IN THE MANNER HE WAS TAKEN UP"?

You can see the confusion I'm talking about!

Your brother says Jesus second coming is to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel and be teaching/correcting them but you said Jesus is executing JUDGEMENT.

Which is what I even told him that the second coming of Christ is about judgement not teaching or correction.

You can see the person who is giving "expo"

Blind leading the blind!

achorladey:
Janosky: Apollos & Priscilla are members of Jehovah's Organization.

Achorladey: Apollos and Priscilla are members of WTBTS I hear you. At least I know you understand what made you a member.

Tell him to provide you the watchtower publications and Awake magazines Apollos & Priscilla read

Maximus69:
You're still repeating the same question Sir.
The whole Churches of Christendom have gone off course, but Russell and his team were working on how to restore Christianity back to how it was in the first century. They discovered that God's Kingdom will be restored in 1914 but they don't fully understand how this would be done. So when 1914 finally came Jesus who got enthroned that year began correcting the misconception this humble group had.

Just see your double lying mouth dancing around.

"THEY DISCOVERED THAT GOD'S KINGDOM WILL BE RESTORED IN 1914" Isn't you who once said "Jesus CAME INVISIBLY"

Then how can Jesus be correcting misconception when the 1st century Christians already know the truth with Bible provided as a guide?

Jesus claimed he came to bear witness to the truth {John 18:37} so as long as you want the truth Jesus take you as his friend {John 14:6} remember that Satan sowed weed in the midst of Jesus' wheat and it has grown over the centuries, so all those who were killed for the truth throughout those times became Jesus' friends automatically.

The fact that SATAN SOWED WEED in the midst of JESUS' WHEAT shows that there have always been TRUE CHRISTIANS all this while before Russell, if not it won't be in the MIDST OF JESUS' WHEAT but ELIMINATING JESUS' WHEAT.

Who are the JESUS' WHEAT during the time of Russell?

Do they worship Jesus?
Do they claim Jesus died on the cross?

When Jesus first arrived in the first century what he made a matter of serious concern was to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 15:24} of course they were lost in the sence that they need the accurate knowledge of God's word.

This statement has nothing to do with the second coming of Christ

So all the blunders they've been committing until the arrival of the Christ will be overlooked[b]

Then who told you all the blunders people have been committing won't be overlooked by the same Jesus again?

And most importantly, the you're still dodging is, if Jesus actually came with The Holy Spirit to Russell and his pagan team, why did they died in WRONG TEACHING?

What is the essence of Jesus teachings when this people still died in wrong belief?

Jesus mission on earth spans a space of just 3 YEARS and within 40days after resurrection Jesus has opened the eyes of His disciples to UNDERSTANDING.

We see the effect in their life not years later but few days.

if only they humbly accept correction through the teachings of Christ![/b] The same thing Jesus did was to start correcting the misconceptions of his humble friends just as he did in the first century, whether in the flesh or in the spirit Jesus' attitude towards helping humble people remains the same! Hebrew 13:8

How can there be a misconception when there are already 1st century Christians who are TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST and a Bible for Guidance?

Most important, when Jesus wheat are still abound everywhere?

Jehovah is the one who anointed Jesus and enthroned him so that means the same thing!

It's not the same thing!

1. Yahweh Himself bears witness of Jesus
2. The Holy spirit bears witness of Jesus Christ
3. The Apostles bear witness of Jesus Christ
4. Jesus Himself said "You shall be MY WITNESS"

That's why everything the TRUE WORSHIPPERS OF YAHWEH did are all IN THE NAME OF JESUS because there's no name under heaven given for man to be saved except Christ name!

It's not just one man or a few that Jesus came to correct Sir, he must first help his humble friends (Church) to regain Christianity so that the FRUIT of God's holy spirit which the world is seeing now amongst Jehovah's Witnesses {Matthew 5:13-16} will serve as a witness that Jesus is now around doing his work as the PRINCE of PEACE {Isaiah 9:6-7} without this if Jesus should come to destroy ignorant people who never had the opportunity to compare and contrast between falsehood and true Christianity that's unjust!
Please keep asking the questions, even if you are not interested in knowing the answers others may see the light through our discussion.
Thanks for your time and may God bless you!

What is the essence of REGAIN CHRISTIANITY when the teaching and practice never lost and even when a BOOK for guidance has already available?

It's either what RUSSELL and his team believe is the actual teachings of Jesus or you people are wrong.

No two ways about it!

Janosky:
Mr LIENUS
WAYO man, exponent of Jesus all knowing Fraud
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John 16:30-32, Jesus knowing the thoughts of his disciples, not proof he knows of the event in Matthew 24:36
Please don't stop embarrassing yourself

Cc: bingbagbo

If not because you're so delusional, you can't provide a screenshot which refute your claim and still be opening your dirty mouth.

This is from the Albert Beines you quoted "...he showed that he clearly understood their doubts; and when he gave them an answer so satisfactory without their having inquired of him, it satisfied them that he knew the heart,..."

Who else knows the THOUGHT and the HEART of man if not only God?

The second screenshot is even worst and shows how you can twist people work.

Here it is: "They think that the day has already come when they shall ask Him nothing, for He knows all things, and communicates to them the fulness of truth."

The Ellicott can say Jesus knows ALL THINGS and you still make it look as if he was supporting your lying mouth when you're even the one who cited it, then you're irredeemable.

Maximus69:
Just as Muslims, Churchgoers and Jehovah's Witnesses also knew about the Christ, so what remains is to explain the way of God more accurately, on that the GB we trust to do justice, just as Apollos trusted (believed) the advanced learning about the Christ from Aquila and Priscilla!

So you agree that Muslims and churchgoers are actually SPEAKING and TEACHING accurately the things about Jesus.

Do you know the meaning of someone doing things ACCURATELY?

I know you people lack understanding of basic English

Maximus69:
Jesus said let them grow together {Matthew 13:24-30} so the falsehood Satan planted spread everywhere until Jesus came in 1914, he searched the whole earth until found a group that's prepared to start making amendments so only the Bible students were prepared to start making the needed changes and reforms.

And Jesus still taught them lies that He is God who needs to be worshipped.

If the First Century of the Christians already have the TRUTH there's no need for Jesus to come and start teaching the truth besides, the second coming of Christ is for judgement not teaching.

Jesus came as an invisible mighty spirit so all his earthly disciples must be humble enough to grasp when the needed reform come, note that when he was here visibly his followers still don't easily grasp what he was teaching them. So it's not a surprise if his followers are finding it difficult to grasp what he's telling them in the spirit! but Jesus is an understanding counselor so he's patient with them!

If Jesus actually came as an invisible mighty Spirit, it means Jesus was the one personally teaching Russell and his team.

Then why did Russell and his pagan team still die worshipping Jesus?

Is it Jesus who taught them that or who?

Jehovah and Jesus are not looking for perfect humans but sinners (those prone to error) all what they want is humble people who are ever willing to adapt to any circumstances. Jehovah is the one molding us and he knew the enemy hunting us so whoever is unwilling to take orders can't survive the end! Zephaniah 2:2-3

This doesn't address my point!

Who taught Russell that worshipping of Jesus Christ is good?

Who taught RUSSELL that Christ died on the Cross?

Who taught RUSSELL that he should be an Herald of Jesus Christ and not Jehovah?

If as you claim, Jesus actually came invisibly in 1914 and started correcting people from wrong teachings, then what is the essence of Jesus corrections when the same people still died believing what you called pagan practices today

krushdripper:
False assumption, I'm better than that. If you understand how religion is a hoax, never updates it's data & full of unrealistic ideas & events, you'll know why science & religion have never agreed.

I can see your obsession with religion but who is talking about religion here?

Are you the only one who know about science?

Facts are being presented here and you never counter any one with your undeniable fact.

I know you're among the people who believe a man made machine called voyager 1 is somewhere in space working for over 40years without asking yourself;

1. who is maintaining this machine up there?
2. Can we find any machine made in 70s that is still functioning properly in our physical world today with constant maintenance? Not to talk the one without maintenance.

achorladey:
Just like they shifted goal post up till the extent of saying JESUS support IDOLATRY.

The question up there becomes interesting.

Very pathetic!

Notice this!

RUSSELL and his pagan team claimed God's inspiration for their works.

If God truly inspired them, then their teaching must be true and remain true.

If God didn't inspire them, their teachings will surely go against the scripture.

So for Russell and his team to worship Christ till they died without correction from God means God is pleased with their teachings (if even God actually inspired them).

But the deluded JWs wants us to accept these fact:

1. Russell died worshipping Christ
2. Russell died believing Jesus died on the Cross
3. Russell champion "Herald of Jesus Christ" e.t.c

But Russell and his team will still be part of chosen one when many people who hold this type of teaching will not be resurrected back to life talk less of being part of heavenly ones.

His god must be a partial one, not the impartial God describe by the Holy scripture.

Maximus69:
Jesus was enthroned in 1914 and he started ruling from then, he came down and began directing his group with God's Holy Spirit so gradually "God's Holy Spirit" started making changes in all the blunders they've been making before then! John 14:26


God's Holy Spirit!

Who are "THEY" that are making blunders?

Russell and his pagan team or people before him!

How come Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ came in 1914 but the wrong teaching still continue till 1950's?

Are you staying Holy Spirit together with Jesus didn't know what they are doing?

Who inspired that:
1. Jesus is angel Michael?
2. Jesus isn't angel Michael?
3. Jesus is angel Michael again?

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Bonus point

So Jesus came down and nobody saw Him?

The Bible must be lying when it says:

Acts 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

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God doesn't condemn people for their wrong beliefs, but for opposing the works of God's Holy Spirit {Matthew 12:31-32} no matter how wicked you may be or how devilish your beliefs, God still takes you as a straying sheep {Luke 23:41-43} condemnation commence when you notice the fine works of God's Holy Spirit and you willingly start speaking abusively against it! Hebrew 10:26

But you just said nobody will condemn the disciples of John for dying with John teachings.

Is it not the same Holy Spirit you said teaches Russell and his pagan team for wrong teaching.

No they can't be because God's Holy Spirit only baptise those who have been baptized in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit {Matthew 28:19} the baptism they got from John is not complete that's why John himself will not be part of the chosen! Matthew 11:11
Thanks!

So a pagan worshippers RUSSELL and his team will be part of the heavenly chosen.

That's wonderful!

Everyone can see that, you're still justifying the unjustifiable thing by smuggled RUSSELL into the chosen one when many people also baptized in the name of the Father, son and Holy spirit before Russell even born.

That's why you'll continue to proof people right that you're unintelligent.

Maximus69:
Apollos was helped to gain accurate knowledge about the Christ whereas he was preaching about the same Christ boldly but all what he knew was the teachings of John the baptist! Act 18:24-26

And the question still remains, who helped Russell and his pagan team to gain accurate knowledge about Jesus Christ?

Russell and his pagan team died believing Jesus was crucified on the cross and even more the herald of Jesus Christ not Jehovah

So who gave them this accurate knowledge?

So many of his former disciples of John died with what John taught them but do you think they will be condemned for not getting it all in their lifetime?

So why do you think God will condemn other for what they believe in their lifetime?

Also, does this mean those disciples of John who died with John's teaching will be part of the heavenly chosen of Jesus Christ?

The more you try to shift goal post for Russell and his pagan team the more you'll be shooting yourself.

DappaD:
Please, can you stay off my mentions?

Then stay away from NL

Maximus69:
ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan!

He's looking for excuse to distract us from the main point again.

This same Jesus is the person who came changing the mentality of Jews who thought they understood God's word back then o!

Why must there need for Jesus TO COME and change their mentality?

Simply because Jesus didn't want them to die in their wrong thought.

But why did the same Jesus allow Russel and his pagan team died in wrong belief? Is still a mystery question anyone of you can't answer.

Even John who was sent by the same God still needed to learn new things from Jesus! Matthew 9:14 compared to Matthew 11:2-6

So where did Russell and his pagan team learn new things from?

So it's the same Jesus each generation of those putting faith in him will continue to learn new things because he deals with imperfect humans due to the level of their understanding,

Learning new things don't negate THE TRUTH

sorry Sir his system of revealing the truth gradually as in bit by bit will never change! Hebrew 13:8

So you mean the gradual revelation of truth by Jesus is to tell Russell that He is God and Russell and his pagan team should worship Him, then later reveal that worshipping of Him is wrong.

Or using Cross was right and later reveal that it was wrong.

Or He is Micheal but later I'm not Michael then later again I'm Michael

A lying organization whose Satan is their founder.

DappaD:
Well said, brother Maximus69.
But allow me to kindly suggest you read up the Awake! issue of October 2008 for more light on this.

After commending him with "WELL SAID" why do you still go ahead to recommend a book for him for MORE LIGHT?

Because you knew he goofed big time and that thought was totally out of the reach of watchtower society instead of you to correct him openly. you're commending wrong thing.

I've seen you've tried to call him to order many times but the truth is, he doesn't have life outside NL

Maximus69:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

This deluded one just seeking for my attention by all means.

Hear it again:

From the horse mouth itself

"If we are following a man undoubtedly it will be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as DARKNESS now:..."

But is actually happening today

What Russell and his pagan team considered LIGHT many years ago are now considered DARKNESS today, which means it was just man made doctrines as rightly said by the writer

If they were following man made traditions, there wouldn't have been speedy changes over the years!

The "SPEEDY CHANGE OVER THE YEARS" you're talking about is what the above publication said it wouldn't have happened, had it been it was man made doctrine but as the reality has it that you actually have A SPEEDY CHANGE means it was man made.

No be me talk am but your own lying organization.

Certainly there is an unseen intelligent mighty spirit being leading them, to springs of waters where they're getting refreshed with new things!

That unseen intelligent mighty spirit being is SATAN for there won't be "NEW THINGS they're getting refreshed with" what the publication said to be LIGHT one or two or six years ago for truth if it'll stay million years will always remain TRUTH but unfortunately now, it has been discarded as DARKNESS. Which means it was truly man made.

Blabbermouth:
I'm not that much grounded in the Scriptures, i might not grab the point. Perhaps, you can drop the bible verses and give a commentary on them.

Since you're not that grounded in the scripture no need of wasting our time.

My point is, some scriptures make it look like the Father isn't all-knowing for instance; in the case of Abraham when God told him to sacrifice Isaac.

Notice how scripture puts this: Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me."

Now, what do we have here?

Many critics of Jesus for not knowing the day or hour of the last day will defend God here by saying "God is all-knowing but been selective or chooses when to use such ATTRIBUTE" Because they know some scriptures depict God as not all-knowing.

So just as some scriptures depict the Father as not all-knowing which didn't erase the scriptures that support the all-knowing of the Father, likewise we have scriptures where Jesus was said to be all-knowing and those that depict Jesus as not all-knowing.

Then we can reasonable conclude that the Father and the Son have such attribute but choose/selective when using it.

Janosky:
The Wailing of a Triune pagan IDOLS worshipper. Na today?

The accolade lying liar JWs

Here from the horse mouth itself

"If we are following a man undoubtedly it will be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as DARKNESS now:..."

But is actually happening today

What Russell and his pagan team considered LIGHT many years ago are now considered DARKNESS today, which means it was just man made doctrines as rightly said by the writer.

Blabbermouth:
Sir Emusan, do you have a bible verse for this?

I'll just give you a clue:
1. The fall of Morning star
2. The fall of Adam and Eve
3. The trial of Abraham killing Isaac
You can then read about it in the Bible.

NOTE: I'm not saying, the Father isn't all-knowing!
But let me see whether you will grab my point.

Janosky:
1. Peter made mistakes, Bros go and remove his name from the crown of life.

Bros, you done forgot your comment:
" But Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?"

Yes! Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?

That was the question for your lying liar mouth who tries to justify how Peter denied Jesus Christ three times with your pagan founder who died practicing idolatry.

So answer the dem question.

You believe in Cross,a pagan contraption.
You have ZERO evidence that Peter worshipped God with a Cross..

Delusional and brainwashed!

Who then says Peter worshipped God with a cross?

Therefore,the question is apt :
"Wetin concern Peter with the pagan contraption of the Cross ?.

Rather you're confused and lack simple comprehension.

But you brought Peter into the matter

So answer my question, did Peter die after denied Jesus Christ?

Bros, if you never chop since morning, please cry for help, your brain no dey reason well.
A hungry man can slap someone without
being provoked

The accolade lying liar JWs.

When you always forget your brain in the Hall before coming to public place.

unclemaths:
Name calling and emotions all over again!
JW indeed.. lol

Typical brainwashed JWs

Not your fault..
Person wey papa no call, if he like make he turn pastor, ending of day na still waste of time last last.

See painment and frustration.

John 6:44
44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them , and I will raise them up at the last day.

If una no understand simple English, eh, how una wan take understand Holy Scriptures?

Do you understand simple English yourself?

Especially as the Father of Jesus no call u..

because you're the Father of Jesus Himself that's why you can know who he called or not.

Me, eh, I sha know say na over-sabi pastors kill the Jesus sef for inside Bible.

See delusions, it's PASTORS that killed Jesus, delusion will never end.

Only Jehovah knows the kind of weed you people take in your Hall.

rottennaija:
What standard? Falsehood? Misappropriation of funds? Flipping kingdom halls for profit? (Lu 12:15) Hiding paedophiles? Misapplication of bible? Hatred? Worshiping the governing body? Lying both in public and in court? Joining the United Nations? (1 Co 10:7,14) Tossing members about by every wind of changing doctrine? (Eph 4:14)

Not the standard I have any interest in keeping.

See how the demonic organization exposed their own false religion.

And today, the modern JWs have regarded their teachings DARKNESS. Definitely, it's because their doctrines are man made, as rightly said by them.

Janosky:
Mr LIENUS, Wetin concern Peter with your pagan contraption of cross?

Mr LIENUS dey DECEIVE himself

I know you're short of memory and it's because your brainwashing has passed beyond redemption.

You brought Peter into this by saying

Peter deny Jesus Christ three times, Bros, go and remove his name from the crown of life, Mr LIENUS

Only to ask in your next post

Mr LIENUS, Wetin concern Peter with your pagan contraption of cross?

Mr LIENUS dey DECEIVE himself

It will take more than 50 good resounding slaps to force sense into your deluded brain.

krushdripper:
Mtcheiw.. You have absolutely no idea what science is.

If we search now, you might have never entered laboratory before talk less of reperforming one single experiment of any of the greatest scientists.

Rather than what you read on Google

rottennaija:
Screenshot of some reasons

So much for the self acclaimed most loving family on earth.
Imagine, how long these people have been wearing fake smile to the Hall.

LordReed:
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But you've been claiming FAA doesn't assume a flat earth model for flight training.

Why keeping mute?

Preciousgirl:
John 17:5

And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

So Jesus shared Glory with the Father before even the word was, wooooow

Who is this Jesus?

Remember God shares His glory with no one

To claim to know who Jesus is, is to make yourself the very Yahweh!

Jesus Himself said:

“My Father has handed over everything to me. Indeed, no one fully knows the Son except the Father, and no one fully knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son wishes to reveal him. Mat 11:27 CJB

The Son reveals who the Father is to us in His person why the scripture reveals to us what we need to know about the Son!

aygbolly2:
Good evening nlanders.. I'm asking this question out of curiosity after thinking about certain things that occur in life. Now, when a child is born, he/she automatically practises the religion of the parent and the probability that the child will practise the inherited religion till death is almost total except in rare cases where the child converts into another religion.

I am a Muslim by the way, because my parents are also Muslims and what my religion says is that any religion besides Islam is not acceptable by Allah and I have also learnt that Christianity also preaches that whosoever doesn't accept Jesus as his Lord and savior will not be granted the kingdom of heaven..

However, in most cases, a child inherits religion, and clearly whether he/she enters heaven or hell according to either religion is not his/her decision but that of the parent and ancestors.

I personally assume that this doesn't signify justice and fairness by God to the child if he/she eventually falls on the wrong side i.e end up practising the wrong religion but what we have always been told is that God is a fair and just God.

The only question I'll ask you is this;

Have you heard people converting from one religion to another i.e Christianity to Islam, Islam to Hindu, Buddhism to Christianity e.t.c

Then why?

Janosky:
John 15:15, Jesus teach what his God and Father taught him, very honest and perfect.
Jesus no be WAYO man like you who forge and twists the holy scriptures.


How will you equate the thinking of imperfect men with the thinking of the perfect Jesus Christ?

Matthew24:36, did Jesus Christ claim he knows all things?


Mark 10:40
But I do not have the right to choose who will sit at my right and my left. It is God who will give these places to those for whom he has prepared them."

Una WAYO too much, Jesus Christ is not Almighty God.

The accolade and lying liar JWs is here!

Never receive sense to contribute meaningfully on a thread but always spewing thrashes up and down.

Read my post and read your comment to see whether they correlate.

haddeylium:
Why is your friend getting emotional over an harmless question?

Who is getting emotional?

“why didn't Jesus know about the day or hour?

Of course, why wouldn't the almighty God know about the day he appointed to execute his Judgement?(Act 1:7)

Why didn't the all-knowing Father know the action of mortal men he created before happening?

When Jesus a mighty God knows who will betray Him from beginning.

If what you mean is ; if God predestined human acts?....NO!

And who is talking about predestined here

of course Jesus' disciples are right when they see the reflection of what Jesus learnt from his God(John 12:49)
So, If the father does not reveals the appointed day or hour to Jesus, angels or any being?
What makes them?

Do you think the Father can hide anything from the Son who they are ONE?