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Christianity EtcRe: Two Things You Need To Know As A Jehovah's Witness! by Emusan(op): 9:26am On Jul 10, 2015
JMAN05:
Now, answer this; do you imagine that Jesus will hold a OT scripture that contains his father's name, yet he won't pronounce it? Do u imagine that the apostles will do so too?
With over 5000 Greek manuscripts available to us if we can't find A SINGLE PLACE where Jesus & the Apostles used the Divine name. I believe JWs are still the one who need to prove to us how they come with their assumption of Jehovah in the NT.

It is possible. A Septuagint of the 4th century was found not containing the divine name, but not long another manuscript of the septuagint was found of an older age which contain the divine name in places where the 4th century Septuagint removed it. What do you think happened?
Is Septuagint a NT book or OT?

If Septuagint of 4th century removed the name, does the Greek manuscripts which also dated back to 1st & 2nd century remove it also?

Let me repeat your organization statement again: "Not only are there THOUSANDS of manuscripts to compare but discoveries of [size=14pt]OLDER Bible manuscripts during the past few decades take the GREEK TEXT back as far as about the year 125 C.E., just a couple of decades short of the death of the apostle John about 100 C.E.[/size] These manuscript evidences provide STRONG ASSURANCE that we now have a dependable Greek text IN REFINED FORM." All Scripture is Inspired of God and Beneficial p.319 (Capital, bold & underline-mine)

If we can have a GREEK TEXT dated back to early century and none of these manuscripts ever used the Divine name, where does JWs get the divine name into their NWT NT?

NOTE: I added a chart in my previous post but all you cover your faces as if you people didn't see it. I've attached it again!

See above. Who said it has not been established that Jesus used it?
Who established it? See the inserted Chart below!

[size=14pt]Correct pronunciation has never been the bane.[/size] It is rather, people's familiarity that is. When Paul wrote his letter in Greek, how do you think the Greek man pronounced "Jesus"? And how does a Jew pronounce it?
If correct pronunciation has never been the bane, did Jesus and the Apostles USE CORRECT PRONUNCIATION or not since you're being clamoring they use it?

This another attempt to cover up Watchtower error because if watchtower actually want to restore the Divine name they should have USED THE CORRECT RENDERING instead of following PEOPLE'S FAMILIARITY which means their theory is no more different from people who removed the Divine name.

Greek and Hebrew man will pronounce Jesus in Greek as Yesous and Hebrew as Yehshua respectively, one of the question I asked earlier but couldn't get any answer from you people was did the Apostles wrong in their usage of Yesous in GREEK when they wrote their books?

When you say Yeshua or Yehoshua, you are more correct than when you say Jesus. Why haven't you changed to the correct one?
So you mean both JWs and Christians are using INCORRECT name for Our Lord and Savior...

Howhuh because Jesus is an English derivation of the Latinize Greek word Yesous, do you mean Jehovah is an English word of Yahweh?

I'm still wondering how Jehovah Witness got the pronunciation and rendering of Jehovah in YORUBA language.

In fact your organization has erroneously teach that Jehovah is an English word for the Divine name.

WebmastersRe: I Need Help For This Chained Select Jquery! by Emusan(op): 8:29am On Jul 10, 2015
Justjyde:
Do it like this. It should work. full working copy also attached. just extract into a folder and use a web server (WAMP or IIS). Have fun.



<html>
<head>
<script src="jquery-1.11.3.min.js"></script>
<script src="jquery.chained.min.js"></script>

</head>
<body>
<select id="mark" name="mark">
<option value="">--</option>
<option value="bmw">BMW</option>
<option value="audi">Audi</option>
</select>
<select id="series" name="series">
<option value="">--</option>
<option value="series-3" class="bmw">3 series</option>
<option value="series-5" class="bmw">5 series</option>
<option value="series-6" class="bmw">6 series</option>
<option value="a3" class="audi">A3</option>
<option value="a4" class="audi">A4</option>
<option value="a5" class="audi">A5</option>
</select>

<script type="text/javascript">
$("#series" ).chained("#mark" ); /* or $("#series" ).chainedTo("#mark" ); */
</script>
</body>
</html>

Thanks for your respond! But it didn't work.

Let me put it this way this time around, I want to insert the code into a PHP file.

Please come to my level this time because I'm not a webdesign guru.
WebmastersI Need Help For This Chained Select Jquery! by Emusan(op): 9:40pm On Jul 09, 2015
Please I need someone to help me with a sample code for this chained select;

For instance, I want all the 36 states in Nigeria in one box and immediately the user chooses any state ALL the local area will be ready to be selected in the other box.

I do a little search but I couldn't get what I want, the only one I got which is somehow closed to it didn't work.

See it:

<script src="//ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.10.2/jquery.min.js"></script>
<script src="jquery.chained.min.js"></script>

<select id="mark" name="mark">
<option value="">--</option>
<option value="bmw">BMW</option>
<option value="audi">Audi</option>
</select>
<select id="series" name="series">
<option value="">--</option>
<option value="series-3" class="bmw">3 series</option>
<option value="series-5" class="bmw">5 series</option>
<option value="series-6" class="bmw">6 series</option>
<option value="a3" class="audi">A3</option>
<option value="a4" class="audi">A4</option>
<option value="a5" class="audi">A5</option>
</select>


$("#series" ).chained("#mark" ); /* or $("#series" ).chainedTo("#mark" ); */

Please can someone shield more light on it for me?
WebmastersRe: Help!!!!! I Cant Login Into My Wordpress Website Admin Page by Emusan(m): 10:54pm On Jul 08, 2015
fnep2smooth:
i cant really remember the plugins i installed cos the site is just 3days old. am still working on it.
cant still log in
In that while, login into your cPanel--->File manager--->wp-content--->plugin

Then RENAME ALL the plugin you've installed there i.e bbpress will become bbpress-old (this will automatically deactivate any plugin you've ever installed).

If you can't still login, nothing to do that to reinstall it your wordpress.
Christianity EtcRe: WAS/IS Muhammed The Al-ruh Al-quddus (holy Spirit) Or A Man? by Emusan(m): 10:40pm On Jul 08, 2015
ParrishNorwood:
It's simple, the bible refers to god as the father,
Was Bible right to have refer to God as Father?

[size=14pt]I do not agree with what it stands for[/size]
Imaging you do not agree with what it stands for but when Jesus says He will send Muhammad from the Father, you agree.

but that's what it is, so my point is, [size=14pt]the father in the verse in question was a reference to the almighty,[/size] I don't get what your point is?
You suppose to cover your face in shame, only a deluded mind can conflict issues like you did here and still believe s/he is still making sense.
So if the Father is a reference to ALMIGHTY, was Jesus right or wrong?

I don't have the verse nearby,
Did you do a pilgrimage to Mecca to read the one you first quoted earlier?

but I thought it says, whom I send through the father?
Wonders shall never end...NOW YOU THOUGHT
Even if you thought, who is the "I" in that verse referring to? Again Whom I (Jesus) will send unto you..."
That means it's Jesus who sent your Muhammad.

Grow up! You're dancing around like a headless chicken, admit you don't know wtf you're talking about.
And this is coming from a confuse soul who didn't know what he is saying.
WebmastersRe: Help!!!!! I Cant Login Into My Wordpress Website Admin Page by Emusan(m): 12:33pm On Jul 08, 2015
fnep2smooth:
i have try all process on youtube still i cant login... the page allows refresh to the same page
i have try to deactivate my all plugins through my cpanel still not working

am still working on it which is not up to 2days ago
pls someone should help me
Are you using any web security?

If yes! then I will tell you what to do.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 12:14pm On Jul 08, 2015
MizJanet:

Very hilarious @ underlined , I was PRODUCED. Am sure you know what it means to be produced . cheesy

Honestly the way you religiotards think baffles me.

"I was produced [size=14pt]as by labouring[/size] throes"

And this is one of my point: Thirdly, we must know that Proverb 8 was actually talking about the WISDOM OF GOD (and Jesus is the Wisdom of God) so it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to create His OWN wisdom, the Wisdom of God must be eternal just as God is eternal. Had it been that the person who raised the issue of Prov 8:24 paid close attention s/he would've seen this in the very text before that verse: "23 I have been established from everlasting, From the beginning, before there was ever an earth." NKJV
Christianity EtcRe: WAS/IS Muhammed The Al-ruh Al-quddus (holy Spirit) Or A Man? by Emusan(m): 8:05am On Jul 08, 2015
ParrishNorwood:
Fatherhood in what context? That he begat a son? Looool! Grow up!
Who needs to Grow uphuh

This is your previous statement: "The bible refers to God as the father, and refers to mankind as the sons of the father."

So in what way do you understand the Bible of referring to God as Father and MANKIND as the sons of the Father?

So you have only two options:
1. Either you take Bible as correct one by calling God the Father which then make you falsified Qur'an. OR

2. Go by your Qur'anic understanding by taking your posit that Jesus blasphemy to have referred to God as Father.


You can't eat your cake and have it.

And my other point you're buried intentionally is that Jesus said in that verse "Whom I (Jesus) will send..."

Are you telling us that it was Jesus Christ who sent your Muhammad?
Christianity EtcRe: WAS/IS Muhammed The Al-ruh Al-quddus (holy Spirit) Or A Man? by Emusan(m): 10:15am On Jul 07, 2015
ParrishNorwood:
[size=14pt]The bible refers to God as the father,[/size] and refers to mankind as the sons of the father. Now, what sort of foolish question is this? It's like asking is it god or HORUS?
Don't boycott my questions;

1. Who will do the send?
2. From which Father or let me put it this way do you believe in the Fatherhood of God?

Now you agree that Bible REFERRED to God as FATHER, why did Quran deny the Fatherhood of God?
Christianity EtcRe: WAS/IS Muhammed The Al-ruh Al-quddus (holy Spirit) Or A Man? by Emusan(m): 10:00am On Jul 07, 2015
ParrishNorwood:
No, it says whom [size=14pt]I (Jesus)[/size] will send unto you [size=14pt]FROM THE Father,[/size] there's a difference.
@bold-who will do the send?
From which Father, Allah or Yahweh?
Christianity EtcRe: WAS/IS Muhammed The Al-ruh Al-quddus (holy Spirit) Or A Man? by Emusan(m): 9:29pm On Jul 06, 2015
ParrishNorwood:
John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.
I can see how Zakir Naik has deluded you people.

Besides, as you keep hammering on this verse you're directly telling us that Quran is false.

Because the verse says [size=14pt]"Whom I (Jesus) will send unto you"[/size] Do you mean it was Jesus who sent Muhammad?
Again [size=14pt]"From the FATHER...which proceedeth from the FATHER"[/size] Is Allah a Father? If yes! Who is his Son(s)/Daughter(s)? If No! what do you think?
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 9:30pm On Jul 04, 2015
dolphinheart:
You can abuse or use derogatory words all day, I'm not going to go to that level with you. Was not raised in that format.
You need it because to comprehend simple English is hard for which you still display here again.

the issue is I Made a post in which I asked some questions . The questions are part of the post and I intend anybody replying that post to answer the questions that is part of that post. You now replied or rather jumped into the post and did not answer the questions. These I have issues with as such procedures could mean it is no longer a disscusion but an argument which I will not participate in. Thus I'm saying if you want to discuss the issues laid down in my post, pls answer t he questions asked if you know them. From there we can have a better understanding of each others views and move on from there. I dnt think I've asked for the impossible . Dnt want to go into throwing questions up and down with no one answering each other, let's do it one at a time . And pls no mumble jumble answers pls.
And how many times am I going to you that my post WASN'T ABOUT YOUR OWN POST? get life.

If my questions dnt interest you, then leave my post for those who have interest in the question na!
Where is the rope I used to tie down your post or did I hold your post before?

I dnt like people extracting part of a whole . Extracting parts does not give a whole, precise overview of what the person who posted the whole is trying to say. Extracting part shows there is something sinister in the extractors intent as might not be able to handle the whole message.
Swear by Jehovah that you haven't done it before...

Its good you can now see my problem. Only that you have not acted on such knowledge as you have done it again! Pls stop the twisting!!
I should stop the twisting again; when you couldn't comprehend my statement in the first place and I took my time to open your brain to what I'm insinuating.

I'm not dodging ur questions! Ur questions will be answered or not answered , but the questions in the initial post must be answered and cleared away first before me move on to others.
That's why I said you lack simple comprehension, when I posted my post I said I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.
So when I said you dodge question you should know I'm not talking about my post here rather somewhere else that's why I repeat myself that 'A REFERENCE'.

There is no where I stated or implied that I always want my own question to be answered! You like twist twist! I asked questions in a post, its a major part of the post, if you want to discuss that posts, then you have to answer the questions, if you dnt want to answer leave the post and stop using questions to cover or answer initial questions posted.
It's like you just learn the word twist.

Then where did I say "YOU SAID your questions must be answered"? this is my statement "BUT ALWAYS WANT YOUR OWN QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED"

If you ask question and I decided not to answer the question but only attend to the rest of your post, is there any crime about it?

or you want to tell me that you always answer EVERY QUESTION you see in a post.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 2:05pm On Jul 04, 2015
dolphinheart:
The questions are an integral part of the post, you can't leave it out if you want to reply to my post. [size=14pt]If you are really interest in what I said in those post and you want to contribute to the discussion, you need to answer the questions in the post.[/size]
The bold part shows that you need to go back to elementary school.

And I've told you that your questions didn't interest me, what else do you want?

Getting bible based answers to those questions will help me, you and everyone reading this thread to have a better understanding of the issues under discussion . If you can answer them, pls share it with us.
Now you're talking but to say because I extracted a part of your post THEN I MUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS is nonsensical. but don't worry if it seems good to me to answer I will.

The truth is you're not seeking for the truth!

Yes! , the "only" is my problem, dnt like it when people say or imply that I said or imply what I did not say or imply.
I can see your problem, whereas the use of my ONLY in that post is the reference I made to WHEN QUESTION IS BEING THROWN TO YOU which I take to mean you can dodge someone question BUT ALWAYS WANT YOUR OWN QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED. I didn't claim is your word!

Is it clear now?
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 12:54pm On Jul 04, 2015
johnw74:
You pander to sects and atheists, likeminded people.
Php 2:21 For all seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's.

MizJanet is antibible:

She doesn't believe the Bible yet she uses the Bible to try and discredit Christians.

MizJanet doesn't believe on the Christian Jesus and talks against Him,
MizJanet is antichrist:
You don't know JWs before undecided

When their own Watchtower can discredit a whole one time respected Christian 'Justin Martyr' just because Justin Martyr preached that Jesus died on the CROSS not on the STAKE as they wrongly teach.

But in their one time booklet which was blindly distributed before they realized ALL THE LIES they put inside and quickly removed it their ONLINE library titled Should you believe in Trinity? in the booklet, OVER 5 BIBLE THRASHERS WERE quoted because those people spoke against Trinity BUT THEY FAILED TO TELL THEIR AUDIENCE that not do those people only speak against Trinity BUT THE BIBLE AS A WHOLE.

That's why you see them in support of someone who doesn't believe in Bible whereas when we examine the content of both Psalms 90:2 and Proverb 8:24 the table will finally turn against them.

Firstly, the phrase BROUGHT FOURTH was used in the Bible severally which to be understood with the text that surround it.

Secondly, the phrase brought fourth as we see in case of Psalms 90:2 implies that mountains that seems to appear from eternity was actually brought fourth at a particular time just as Adam Clake put it in his commentary "Verse 2. Before the mountains were brought forth: The mountains and hills appear to have been everlasting; but as they were brought forth out of the womb of eternity, there was a time when they were not:..."

Thirdly, we must know that Proverb 8 was actually talking about the WISDOM OF GOD (and Jesus is the Wisdom of God) so it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to create His OWN wisdom, the Wisdom of God must be eternal just as God is eternal. Had it been that the person who raised the issue of Prov 8:24 paid close attention s/he would've seen this in the very text before that verse: "23 I have been established from everlasting, From the beginning, before there was ever an earth." NKJV

Psalm 90:2 says "...Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God" which means ONLY God is from everlasting. Surprisingly, the speaker here also said "I have been ESTABLISHED from everlasting."

Fourthly, so what does it mean to BROUGHT FOURTH in case of Prov 8:24? The Wisdom of God was brought fourth Adam Clake "I was brought forth] ytllwx cholalti, "I was produced as by labouring throes."" The Wisdom of God has been in action and in use from everlasting, this agree with the prophecy of prophet Micah about the Messiah "Whose goings forth are from of old, From EVERLASTING"

Fifthly, even Atheist will agree that every creature needs SPACE and PLACE to occupy and dwell, which leads to my unanswered question by any JWs ever If Jesus is a created being, which comes first Heaven or Jesus?

Lastly, I turn this against JWs Psalm 90:2 says "...Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God", Prov 8:23 says "I have been ESTABLISHED from everlasting." and Micah 5:2 says "Whose goings forth are from of old, From EVERLASTING"

Why did your organization conclude that God is not created by using Psalm 90:2 as support and also concluded that Jesus was created by citing Micah 5:2 in their 'what does Bible really teach booklet pg. 41' when the same word was used in the two verses?
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 11:06am On Jul 04, 2015
dolphinheart:
I made a post in which some questions are asked. If you are interested in contributing to the post with a reply, pls endeavor to answer the questions contained in the post. If you can't answer it, pls let us know.
Dnt use questions to answer questions, we are not arguing!
If I have had intention to answer your questions it won't cause me anything but I don't have interest on them. Like I said earlier I didn't quote you for YOU TO REPLY MY POST (or didn't I say it?) but I only quote you to SHOW YOU how those verses you so agreed with fortified your organization teaching.

Stop accussing me with what I did not say, [size=14pt]I did not say only my questions should be answered![/size] Stop twisting words!
So the word ONLY is your problem now?
But you're asking my to answer YOUR questions.
Christianity EtcRe: A Comparison Between Jesus And Muhammad by Emusan(m):
vedaxcool:
I guess your boy was performing woefully hence your rush to help him out!
Performing woefully in what way?
Because he bothered not to reply after he had made his points clear but you jumped in only to boycott those points and attack straw man.

huh huh huh maybe you should calm down and try and make coherent statement, I do not get what point you are trying to make
My point is clear, you "some Christians are now denying the birth of Jesus Christ THESE DAY"
And my emphasis is on THESE DAY, so go back and read that portion again.

[size=14pt]every human existed in heaven before they were born on earth,[/size]
“And when your Lord brought forth from the children of Adam...all their descendants, and made them bear witness against their own souls: Am I not your Lord? They said: Yes! we bear witness. Lest you should say on the day of resurrection: Surely we had no knowledge of this.” (Qur’an 7:172)
[size=14pt]Furthermore every soul exist by the command of Allah in other words by Allah's word:[/size]
@bold parts-that means every human is DIVINE, or you will tell us also that EVERY HUMAN IS THE WORD OF ALLAH.

By the way the verse you quoted never supported you claim because the verse says "FROM CHILDREN ADAM...ALL THEIR DESCENDANTS" this means that ALL HUMAN ARE ALREADY IN THE ONE BODY OF ADAM by the way Allah had cast Adam to the earth (according to Muslims understanding) after his disobedient so it was the body of Adam on earth that ALL HIS DESCENDANT came from NOT IN HEAVEN again.

They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)" 17:85
Imaging using the allege verse of how Muhammad confused Holy Spirit with Jibril who brought him message to support EVERY SOUL EXISTS by Allah's command belittle your Islamic understanding. Yet you'll be acting as a scholar!

Whereas this is the same verse Muslim scholars always use to explain away the contradiction of who brought the Quran, Jibril or Holyspirit?

I feel sorry for you, you seemed pained over something I don't know and in addition like your boy you ignore an entire verse and fixate on just few words, christ is not more than a messenger of Allah, and he is above begetting sons, his conception and birth is a miracle and sign for mankind not a cheque book for blasphemy and arrogance.
Lol...feel pained for what? That you can see Christ is no more that messenger but see that Christ is the WORD OF ALLAH and A SPIRIT from Allah and PURPOSELY IGNORED them undecided undecided

By the way you haven't explained how Quran is THE WORD of Allah and is uncreated and Jesus who is also THE WORD of Allah is now created.

The Qur'an isn't the bible where [size=14pt]prophets of God commit adultery etc,[/size] Like I stated there is no sin any prophet committed, infact we believe there were protected from the devil's influence

[size=14pt]The prophets were always fearful and humble even though they did not do anything that could be termed a sin.[/size] This is the sign of true and ultimate piety[6], and this is the trait of a true believer who lives his or her life in a balance of love, fear and hope, not in a state of arrogance and comfort as if they deserve paradise.
I can't stop laughing...so what SINS Allah always tell Muhammad to ask forgiveness from and why will Allah forgive SINS THAT SOMEBODY didn't commit? As we can see from those verses I posted earlier.
Like I said earlier, everyone can see that this is just a claim by Muslims to explain away some issue in the Quran not the evidence within the Quran and the hadith.
For instance Moses was recorded to have killed, is that just a FEAR AND HUMBLE or a sin?

But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell Matthew 5:22

But Jesus in the same bible is reported to have said worse against his elders in the bible, so even your bible does not agree with you:

Fill up, then, the measure of the guilt of your fathers. 33"You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell? 34"Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,…Matthew 23:33

There you have it, sins being attributed by the bible against Jesus.
Even Jesus' critiques were dumb-folded when He raised the question Which of YOU convict me of sin? John 8:46
So, ALL OPEN-MINDED person and Jesus' critiques understood Jesus' statement but ONLY close-minded person like you fail to do so.

It is narrated from Abu Huraira, he said the Messenger of Allah -may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him said, "If my Lord was to judge me and Ibn Maryam (Jesus) even by the amount of the shadow between these two fingers, He would have punished us without being unjust." Hilya al-Awliya 8/132. Also quoted in Kanzul 'Ummal Hadith 5905
Imaging Allah will punish a JUST AND HOLY person, and still be UNJUST.

But offcourse we still hold that they were sinless.
You can HOLD to it but Quran and hadith are not.

Jesus said father forgive them . . ., [size=14pt]why didn't he just forgive them without praying to God?[/size] oh wait, he was a messenger of God who despite christian ilogical claim about him had to resort to praying to God day in day out?
This is the ignorant of the scripture we're talking about, Jesus made that statement WHILE HE WAS ON THE CROSS when the SIN of the world is ALREADY ON HIM the ONLY PERSON WHO CAN FORGIVE sin at that particular time is His Father who is sinless, while Jesus had never carried any sin He forgave people's sins and after He paid the price for the sin of the world He still forgives sin till now.

Did Jesus know the day of Judgement?
And this prove Bible conflicts view on Jesus NATURE, right?
My point still stands, please show us how Bible conflict views on the NATURE OF Jesus Christ.
For you to make that statement it's evident you know that Bible actually placed Jesus as God and man because only TWO VIEWS can conflict each other A SINGLE VIEW can't.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 4:54pm On Jul 03, 2015
dolphinheart:
It is not an excuse, questions where asked, you decided to reply on the post , but refuse to answer the questions in it? Why? Is it because you dnt know the answer? If you do, pls share it with everyone on these thread before we go to other matters.

Answer those questions first before attempting to show any other thing! .
it Isn't an excuse! Coming from someone who insisted his only questions MUST BE ANSWERED but forgotten that sometimes he also boycotts questions throw to him.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 3:29pm On Jul 03, 2015
dolphinheart:
I asked some questions in that post, if you felt you needed to reply a post that was not directed to you, pls answer those questions according to the way it was asked!

If you really want to answer those questions, pls add this to it too
(o)when do you think this ressurection start?. Before these scripture was written or after.?
Lame excuse, I know you can't refute those points, by the way like I said I'm not asking you to answer my questions but I only show you a snippet of your organization wrong teaching.
Christianity EtcRe: A Comparison Between Jesus And Muhammad by Emusan(m): 3:20pm On Jul 03, 2015
vedaxcool:
You dishonesty is strange, what prevented you from quoting the verses you hinged your entire case upon? rather you resorted to foisting your opinions on verses that largely contradicted it.
You said someone is dishonest but you own dishonesty can't be measured.


Yes he was, unfortunately more Christians in christendom doubt this to be true these days.
Many centuries even before Muhammad received his message from the so called Jibril people have denied His virgin birth so to say THESE DAYS is pure dishonesty.

5. He was the Messiah – Surah 4:171.
4:171 O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, [size=14pt]and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him:[/size] so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah:[size=15pt] Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son.[/size] To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth.


the above verse warns chritians not to commit excessess in their religion how? By deitifying Jesus the son of mary who was a messenger of God and not his son nor is he part of any sort of godship. Jesus was the messiah sent to save the Jews from their evil ways.
See how you stylishly cover the main point he raised.
That's why I have to bold his main point. If not because Muslims have been programmed the way they are, they believe Quran is the WORD (Kalimatuhu) of Allah-the very Allah owns personal WORD so it make it uncreated and existed in heaven but here Jesus is being referred to as BOTH THE WORD (Kalimatuhu) OF ALLAH and a SPIRIT PROCEEDING from Allah, how is Jesus then a created being? and this also means that Jesus existed before He was born on earth just as the way Quran exists in heaven before being revealed to Muhammad.

19:19 He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son."

In Islam all prophets are considered to be sinless, furthermore in Islam every child is born sinless, as there is no such a concept as original sin, a child begins to sin when he reaches the age of culpability for his actions, that is knows what is right from wrong.

"Say: Shall I seek another than Allah for Lord, when He is Lord of all things? Each soul earneth only on its own account, nor doth any laden bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return and He will tell you that wherein ye differed. "– Qur’an English Translation [6:164]
Actually is a concept every Muslims hold that In Islam all prophets CONSIDER to be sinless but the evidence within the Quran itself and the hadith prove it to be false.

That's why the word CONSIDER always use and this was intentionally done by the Muslims scholars to counter a situation like this.

To BE SINLESS simply means NEVER TO EVER commit any SINGLE sin but throughout Quran we see prophets ASKING FOR THE FORGIVENESS of their sin(s) i.e "Know that there is no deity but God. Implore Him to forgive your (Muhammad) sins and to forgive the true believers, men and women." S. 47:19 (N. J. Dawood's Translation)

The Quran surprisingly however, rather than affirming the sinless nature of God's messengers, actually emphasizes their need for forgiveness and cleansing from impurities! A listing of the prophets and the Suras is given below to aid in illustrating this point beyond the shadow of a doubt:

Adam and Eve S. 2:36; 7:22-23
Noah S. 11:45-47
Abraham S. 26:82
Moses S. 28:15-16
David S. 38:24-25
Solomon S. 38:34
Jonah S. 37:142; 21:87
Muhammad S. 4:102-107; 9:43; 40:55; 48:1-2; 80:1-10

That's why I wonder why whether honest Muslims truly know the meaning of SINLESS.

Compared to some christians who unfortuntely now mock Jesus and write fictions about him.
What of those Muslims who mock Muhammad and write fictions about him?

Yes the same can be said of the Muhammed pbuh went to heaven and returned to earth.
And then died and was buried in a grave but Jesus is still in heaven.

Yes but I don't still see how these support your assertions,
The reason why he used it is that THE END LIES IN JESUS' HANDS.

He is coming back again to judge the world of sin.
If Jesus is not greater than ALL THE PROPHETS why must He be the one to come AS A SIGN OF THE JUDGEMENT day and usher ISLAM WORLD WIDE-according to your believe (something Muhammad himself could not achieve)?

The hadith is not speaking of sins but of devil disturbing babies hence making them cry, and as I have indicated children are born sinless, and whenever a muslims sins he is required to repent and Allah forgives.
It's evident that Devil touches ALL THE PROPHETS including Muhammad except Jesus and His mother and you can't sit down and ask yourself, why?

The bible appears to a disparate cacophony of ideas about a single issues ever so conflicting views on the true nature of Jesus, hence it can not be relied upon to rightly guide man.
Please show us how Bible conflict views on the NATURE OF JESUS Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 2:16pm On Jul 03, 2015
dolphinheart:
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; :- And now, dear brothers and sisters, we want you to know what will happen to the believers who have died so you will not grieve like people who have no hope. 14 For since we believe that Jesus died and was raised to life again, we also believe that when Jesus returns, God will bring back with him the believers who have died. 15 We tell you this directly from the Lord: We who are still living when the Lord returns will not meet him ahead of those who have died. g 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, the Christians who have died h will rise from their graves. 17 Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will be with the Lord forever. 18 So encourage each other with these words.

We learn from verse 14 that "God will" and not "God has" done this ressurection as at the time this scripture was written. Verse 15 to 18 gives us a time frame and procedure for these ressurection and ascension to heaven .

Note, those verses talked about those who are dead and who are alive. This brings the question, (a)where are those who died in faith before these ressurection occurs?
(b)After the event occurs, would there still be people alive on earth? (c) What will be there eventual outcome.?(d) Is that resurrection the only resurrection ?I will like you to try and answer those questions.
It's like you don't normally take into consideration the teaching of your organization before you you use Biblical reference to support your claim sometimes.

From these scriptures you said "Note, those verses talked about those who are dead and who are alive."

Now if these verses are talking about both the DEAD and the LIVING, let's consider some key points here.

[b]1. "we also believe that when [size=14pt]Jesus returns, God will bring back with him[/size] the believers who have died."

NOTE: Your organization claimed that Jesus had return in 1914 but according to this verse where are the believers God brings with Jesus at His return?

2. "For the Lord himself will come down from heaven" Please what does it mean to COME DOWN from heaven? because your organization says the return of Jesus is spiritual and not physical

3. "with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God." according to your organization Jesus return in 1914, please is there any historical record of A SHOUT and TRUMPET OF GOD?

4. "Then, together with them, [size=14pt]we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds[/size] to meet the Lord in the air." According to your organization ONLY 144,000 will make heaven and the selection of these saints has already stopped.So, Has this statement been fulfilled? If No! Then, will the 144,000 be resurrected back here on earth again? If Yes! Why your organization says these 144,000 are already ruling with Jesus in heaven? If No! Who are the people that will meet the LORD in the air again? Will this MEETING THE LORD IN THE AIR happen before Armageddon or After? If it will happen before Armageddon, why your organization never teaches MEETING THE LORD before Armageddon? If it will happen after Armageddon that means it's not everybody that will live forever on your paradise earth and your organization never says anything about that.

5. "Then we will be with the Lord forever." this statement meant for both the DEAD and the ones ALIVE who will MEET THE LORD in the AIR, please will this include the 144,000 saints who are already ruling with Jesus in heaven again or another race entirely?[/b]

I'm not saying you should answer all my questions but by considering those questions with the scriptures in view we know that JWs teachings regard the end time fall out woefully and contradict the scriptures.
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First Part

<?php
// An array of options for the first select box.
$makes = array('Acura', 'BMW', 'Lexus', 'Toyota', 'Honda');

// Displays the posted info
if(isset($_POST['submit']))
{ echo '<pre>'; print_r($_POST); echo '</pre>'; }
?>
<form action="" method="post">
<select id="makes" name="makes">
<?php
// Build the options for the first select box
foreach($makes as $m){ echo '<option value="'.$m.'">'.$m.'</option>'; }
?>
</select>
<select id="models" name="models">
</select>
<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Submit">
</form>

Second Part-JQuery

<script>
$('#makes').change(function(){ //Basically saying when the first select box changes values run the function below.
var make = $(this).val(); // Grab the value of the selection to send to the select-request.php via ajax
$.post('select-request.php', {make:make}, function(data){ // Run a ajax request and send the var make as a post variable named "make" and return the info in the "data" var.
$('#models').html(data); // Have jquery change the html within the second select box with the "data" we got back from the ajax request.
});
});
</script>

Third Part

<?php
error_reporting(E_ALL); //Remove this line for production, it simply will allow php to display any errors

// I built arrays based on the value names in the $makes array
$acura = array('Integra', 'TSX', 'MDX');
$bmw = array('1 Series', '3 Series', '5 Series', 'X5');
$lexus = array('ES300', 'GX470', 'GS350', 'LS400H');
$toyota = array('Venza', 'Camry', 'Corolla', 'Echo');
$honda = array('Pilot', 'Accord', 'Civic', 'Ridgeline');

//We check to see if the "make" post has come through before we do any processing.
if(isset($_POST['make']))
{
$model = strtolower($_POST['make']);

foreach($$model as $mo){ echo '<option value="'.$mo.'">'.$mo.'</option>'; }
}
?>
Can you help me on how to put all these in ONE PHP FILE?

I tried it but it always returns ERROR.

cc: gozmos
WebmastersRe: How Do I Go About These Codes? by Emusan(op): 1:08pm On Jul 03, 2015
Emusan:
First Part

<?php
// An array of options for the first select box.
$makes = array('Acura', 'BMW', 'Lexus', 'Toyota', 'Honda');

// Displays the posted info
if(isset($_POST['submit']))
{ echo '<pre>'; print_r($_POST); echo '</pre>'; }
?>
<form action="" method="post">
<select id="makes" name="makes">
<?php
// Build the options for the first select box
foreach($makes as $m){ echo '<option value="'.$m.'">'.$m.'</option>'; }
?>
</select>
<select id="models" name="models">
</select>
<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Submit">
</form>

Second Part-JQuery

<script>
$('#makes').change(function(){ //Basically saying when the first select box changes values run the function below.
var make = $(this).val(); // Grab the value of the selection to send to the select-request.php via ajax
$.post('select-request.php', {make:make}, function(data){ // Run a ajax request and send the var make as a post variable named "make" and return the info in the "data" var.
$('#models').html(data); // Have jquery change the html within the second select box with the "data" we got back from the ajax request.
});
});
</script>

Third Part

<?php
error_reporting(E_ALL); //Remove this line for production, it simply will allow php to display any errors

// I built arrays based on the value names in the $makes array
$acura = array('Integra', 'TSX', 'MDX');
$bmw = array('1 Series', '3 Series', '5 Series', 'X5');
$lexus = array('ES300', 'GX470', 'GS350', 'LS400H');
$toyota = array('Venza', 'Camry', 'Corolla', 'Echo');
$honda = array('Pilot', 'Accord', 'Civic', 'Ridgeline');

//We check to see if the "make" post has come through before we do any processing.
if(isset($_POST['make']))
{
$model = strtolower($_POST['make']);

foreach($$model as $mo){ echo '<option value="'.$mo.'">'.$mo.'</option>'; }
}
?>
Can someone help me on how to put all these in ONE PHP FILE?

I tried it but it always returns ERROR.
WebmastersRe: How Do I Go About These Codes? by Emusan(op): 4:35pm On Jun 27, 2015
Jregz:
yes you can,both codes are pretty much small to have stand-alone files.....
what's the file is to look like depends on what you are trying to achieve,
1.)do you want to select the irrespective of the other.... you could build different form tags in your layout and include this

2.)if you want to select them in the same form, fix everything in just one form tag


Then again, your Call

for the JavaScript --- you can also place it in the same file but you must make sure the jquery library is included before it
Christianity EtcRe: Are Birthday Celebrations A Sin As JW Would Have You Believe? by Emusan(m): 11:52pm On Jun 26, 2015
JMAN05:
The bold makes u a professional liar.
Like Watchtower Society
Christianity EtcRe: Are Birthday Celebrations A Sin As JW Would Have You Believe? by Emusan(m): 11:51pm On Jun 26, 2015
JMAN05:
So weaning party is now a birthday celebration. You are best left with ur error.
On which DAY did Isaac wean?
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 9:18pm On Jun 26, 2015
dolphinheart:
Nice to see [size=14pt]you have agreed[/size] that they died and did not go to heaven.
If you can't show me where I agreed in my post that makes you a purported liar.

What bothers me is ur search for something wrong where there is nothing wrong. We are discussing from the bible here on if enoch and elijah went to heaven during their time (before jesus came to earth) and not on if they will ever go to heaven or [size=14pt]are in heaven now.[/size]

The @bold part shows how confused you are, it's not new since that's how you normally contradict yourself.
And the funny part of is is that in your own deluded mind you will never see it.

[quote]I will explain my view on ur statement only once on these thread, dnt want to derail it.
You've already derailed the thread by replying me.
Now is your view but your conclusion is about JWs is right!

Pls, can you show me where it is states that [size=14pt]they will live in a city?[/size] A city the pious one will build?
Where did I say in my post that THE PIOUS ONE WILL BUILD ANY CITY? Failure to answer any of my question will result to whathuh
@bold-let's read Heb 11:13 & 14 together "13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, [size=14pt]embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland."[/size] NKJV

The key points here are:
1. They confess that they are STRANGERS AND PILGRIMS on earth that's why,
2. They PLAINLY DECLARED that they SEEK A HOMELAND. and verse 16 told us that it was HEAVENLY COUNTRY.

I will explain the meaning of NOT RECEIVING THE PROMISE as I go further with your post.

You tried to link the word "city" in this verse with the view of jehovahs witnesses on their building works after armagedon. People might not see your twistings , but I see it.
Lol...I'm the one twisting the scriptures now not your false organization but let's see who is actually twisting the scripture here.

Firstly, you're the one who took only the word CITY out of my post
Secondly, what I said is that it is God who HAD ALREADY PREPARED A CITY not the remaining JWs who will survive the Armageddon [b]THAT WILL PREPARE WHERE THIS PIOUS WILL LIVE as your organization teaches.

Let's read the last part of that verse 16 again FROM EVERY VERSION you used so that you can see how your organization has twisted the scripture.

King James Bible
"...for he (GOD) hath prepared for them a city."

King James 2000 Bible
"...for he (GOD) has prepared for them a city.

American King James
Version
"..for he (GOD) has prepared for them a city."

So it's evident that God is the very one who will prepared THE CITY not human being.

You did not tell us about the city prepared by jehovah,what city is that ? Is it for their residence or does preparing [size=14pt]such city signify something else.[/size]
Heb 11:10, 16;
12:22;
13:14 .
Re 11:2
Re 21:2-27;
22:14, 19;
3:12.(pls read those verses)
And your hands are too short to post the verses here so that people can see clearly your perversion. I laugh at @bold, you know what? I know you want to shift the phrase "God being the one who will prepare the city" to a FIGURATIVE one typical JWs.

But let me help you quote Heb 11:10 for more picture of it "10 for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God"
Please who is the BUILDER OF THIS CITY?

Note that also that verse did not say they will go to heaven , but that they lounged for a heavenly country.
Are you saying they ONLY LOUNGE IN VAIN when they believed that they are ONLY A STRANGER and PILGRIM on earth?

Did this faithful loyal servants of jehovah later go to heaven ?
After listing many pre Christian [size=14pt]persons of faith,[/size] Hebrews 11:39, 40 says: And these all, [size=14pt]having obtained a good report through faith,[/size] received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
Let me chip in this so that you can see the harm you're causing for your organization believe.

The @bold parts show that these people ARE OF FAITH not of their GOOD WORK I know you will find another excuse but remember your own word "...pre Christian PERSONS OF FAITH,"

* some translations use "apart from us" in verse 40

Note the words in that verse which are "promise", "us", "they".
I will but you also should NOTE how your own points rise against you.

The promise of heaven was made by jesus to his followers and it [size=14pt]is based on his ransom sacrifice.[/size]
Are you saying these people didn't benefit from the RANSOM SACRIFICE of Christ?

There was no mention of heavenly hope for those that died before jesus came.
If Jesus is the one who promised heaven and it's based on His sacrificial event, did those who died before Him benefited from His RANSOM SACRIFICE or not?

The term "us and they" let's us understand that paul was talking about two groups of people.
This will also prove that it doesn't include the 12 Apostles according to your analogy below, don't be shocked that's what your point end with.

Who are here meant by “us”? Hebrews 3:1 shows that they are “partakers of the heavenly calling." The pre-Christian [size=14pt]persons who had faith,[/size] (the "they" in that verse) then, must have a hope for perfect life somewhere other than in heaven.

Ps. 37:29: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.”
Rev. 21:3, 4: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
You prove here again that these people are HAD FAITH
So somewhere else is still to prove that they WILL RESIDE FOREVER UPON IT, [b]but did you notice the very first phrase in that Psalm 37:29 "THE RIGHTEOUS THEMSELVES"?
How can one become righteous according to the scripture?

About the Rev 21:3,4 I didn't see where these pious will live in those verses?

“Not Made Perfect Apart From Us.”
After reviewing the record of faithful men of the pre Christian period from Abel onward, the apostle says none of these got “the fulfillment of the promise, as God foresaw something better for us, in order that they might not be made perfect apart from us.” ( Heb 11:39, 40) The “us”
here clearly refers to anointed Christians ( Heb 1:2; Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Firstly, the fulfillment of the promise here means that NONE OF THEM WITNESS THE ACTUAL PROMISE OF GOD. THAT IS; THE COMING OF THE MESSIAH

Secondly, if we should follow your analogy it means Jesus is God since you said it was Jesus who ACTUALLY MADE THE PROMISE OF HEAVEN to His followers whereas here you're trying to prove that there was truly a promise but just that the promise wasn't fulfilled on them.

Lastly, you said and I quote "The “us” here clearly refers to anointed Christians" and you supported it with Heb 1:2 "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,...
Now let me prove to you how we can conclude that The 12 Apostles won't be among this Anointed Christians BY CAREFULLY READ YOUR BELOW QUOTE.

[quote]Heb 2:1-4 : Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard........ which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us [size=14pt]by them[/size] that heard him; .......),
The beauty of this comes from the @bold and underline.
Please who are the THEM in that verse?
A careful understanding of that THEM comes from this phrase "...that heard him" which means the writer here didn't claim to have HEARD JESUS HIMSELF but THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY HEARD HIM are the one who CONFIRMED IT to the "US" (you're ignorant off and perverted).

With this in mind, the US can't include the 12 Apostles since they are the one who actually HEARD JESUS.

For these faithful men of pre-Christian times, therefore, their being “made perfect” must relate to their resurrection, or restoration to life, and thereafter their being “set free from enslavement to corruption” by the services of the priesthood of Christ Jesus and his underpriests during the Millennial Rule.
So what is the different between the faithful pre Christians and JWs who had died?
Remember you said "BEING MADE PERFECT must relate to their resurrection or restoration to life" because this is the same thing that every Jehovah witnesses who had died will experience (resurrection or restoration to life). Do you means after Jesus had come ALL Jehovah witnesses HAD NOT BEEN MADE PERFECT UNTIL they resurrection comes?

In conclusion enoch and elijah did not go to heaven and the views of jehovahs witneses is not contrary to the bibles view in these matter.
Yet you've not proved anything but just concluded as programming robot always does.
WebmastersRe: Post All Your Wordpress Issues Here (strictly Wordpress) by Emusan(m): 12:11am On Jun 26, 2015
kombo:
Did you read the request? Link to his wordpress blog, meaning he has one already, he just wants a redirection from this new Url.

-Kombo
Please can you help by showing how to put all these PHP codes in the same pages MOST importantly where to include the js library?

Thanks,

First Part

<?php
// An array of options for the first select box.
$makes = array('Acura', 'BMW', 'Lexus', 'Toyota', 'Honda');

// Displays the posted info
if(isset($_POST['submit']))
{ echo '<pre>'; print_r($_POST); echo '</pre>'; }
?>
<form action="" method="post">
<select id="makes" name="makes">
<?php
// Build the options for the first select box
foreach($makes as $m){ echo '<option value="'.$m.'">'.$m.'</option>'; }
?>
</select>
<select id="models" name="models">
</select>
<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Submit">
</form>

Second Part-JQuery

<script>
$('#makes').change(function(){
var make = $(this).val();
$.post('select-request.php', {make:make}, function(data){
$('#models').html(data);
});
});
</script>

Third Part

<?php
error_reporting(E_ALL); //Remove this line for production, it simply will allow php to display any errors

// I built arrays based on the value names in the $makes array
$acura = array('Integra', 'TSX', 'MDX');
$bmw = array('1 Series', '3 Series', '5 Series', 'X5');
$lexus = array('ES300', 'GX470', 'GS350', 'LS400H');
$toyota = array('Venza', 'Camry', 'Corolla', 'Echo');
$honda = array('Pilot', 'Accord', 'Civic', 'Ridgeline');

//We check to see if the "make" post has come through before we do any processing.
if(isset($_POST['make']))
{
$model = strtolower($_POST['make']);

foreach($$model as $mo){ echo '<option value="'.$mo.'">'.$mo.'</option>'; }
}
?>
WebmastersRe: How Do I Go About These Codes? by Emusan(op): 4:38pm On Jun 25, 2015
Jregz:
yes you can,both codes are pretty much small to have stand-alone files.....
what's the file is to look like depends on what you are trying to achieve,
1.)do you want to select the irrespective of the other.... you could build different form tags in your layout and include this

2.)if you want to select them in the same form, fix everything in just one form tag


Then again, your Call

for the JavaScript --- you can also place it in the same file but you must make sure the jquery library is included before it
Thanks very much.

I so much love this your advice and I'll go for it.

But can you just use those code above as an example of what to do, please?
WebmastersHow Do I Go About These Codes? by Emusan(op):
First Part
<?php
$makes = array('Acura', 'BMW', 'Lexus', 'Toyota', 'Honda');

if(isset($_POST['submit']))
{ echo '<pre>'; print_r($_POST); echo '</pre>'; }
?>
Form for the First Select Box
<form action="" method="post">
<select id="makes" name="makes">
<?php
foreach($makes as $m){ echo '<option value="'.$m.'">'.$m.'</option>'; }
?>
</select>
<select id="models" name="models">
</select>
<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Submit">
</form>

Second Part-JQuery
<script>
$('#makes').change(function(){
var make = $(this).val();
$.post('select-request.php', {make:make}, function(data){
$('#models').html(data);
});
});
</script>

Third Part
<?php
error_reporting(E_ALL);

$acura = array('Integra', 'TSX', 'MDX');
$bmw = array('1 Series', '3 Series', '5 Series', 'X5');
$lexus = array('ES300', 'GX470', 'GS350', 'LS400H');
$toyota = array('Venza', 'Camry', 'Corolla', 'Echo');
$honda = array('Pilot', 'Accord', 'Civic', 'Ridgeline');

if(isset($_POST['make']))
{
$model = strtolower($_POST['make']);

foreach($$model as $mo){ echo '<option value="'.$mo.'">'.$mo.'</option>'; }
}
?>
Christianity EtcRe: Are Birthday Celebrations A Sin As JW Would Have You Believe? by Emusan(m): 5:51pm On Jun 23, 2015
CANTICLES:
grin stop disgracing yourself , so you cant show me where it is CLEARLY AND NEATLY WRITTEN THAT Abraham did a big " BIRTHDAY PARTY " for Isaac ? grin
Imaging I should stop disgracing myself is coming from someone who couldn't counter any of my post but only attacks strawman.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Birthday Celebrations A Sin As JW Would Have You Believe? by Emusan(m): 3:07pm On Jun 23, 2015
CANTICLES:
Show me where it is written that Abraham did a big BIRTHDAY PARTY For Isaac ?
Read all my post.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Anyone Ascend Into Heaven Before Jesus Or Not? by Emusan(m): 3:04pm On Jun 23, 2015
dolphinheart:
3. to butress 1 above , the scriptures said he ,enoch(along with others ) saw the promise afar off but have not received it yet and their condition is just like Davids condition as at the time the NT was written.
And the same scripture says "For those who say such things declare plainly that [size=14pt]they seek a homeland.[/size] 15 And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 But now they [size=14pt]desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them."[/size] Heb 11:14-16 NKJV

Yet your organization says these pious will live forever on earth in a CITY that THE REMAINING JWs who survive the Armageddon will build whereas the scripture says God had already prepared a CITY FOR THEM.

Who is telling the truth, Watchtower or Scripture?

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