₦airaland Forum

ogajim:
I can't speak on what obtains in the UK, EU . . .

Pastor AIO:
I think that it is wrong to take a particular instance of anything and then apply it broadly to anyone and anything vaguely associated.  I don't think that anyone, much less everyone, who tithes is being attacked.  But rather the PREACHING OF TITHING is what has been attacked as far as I can tell.  It is of course naturally for humans to associate themselves so strongly with a doctrine whereby any attack on that doctrine becomes a personal attack on themselves.  
The subject of the thread suggests that pastors are not telling their congregation the truth about tithes and in fact are lying to them.  That is a far cry from accusing the people who actually tithe, many of whom do so under the false notions fed to them by mendacious pastors.  That has parallels to punishing a rape victim for falling victim to the crime.

I will check the g+ magic when he gets back at the weekend.Heard it has been on since 2007 without any break or need for update.If you need details,please holla my ogas mentioned.All you need with the g+ is a 1.8m dish and C-band lnb.Get the details from the group please.It is very confidential.

" ,  is not hacked (though some say the 68e c Band might be open on some cards)."

Enigma,
what dish size will pick Intelsat 10 C-band with the C beam in the UK?

OYIBN:
@Enigma

In trying to collaborate Gerge D's submission, you gave an example which is out of place. There is no way you will get BBC World Service on FM because each radio station has its own frequency where it transmits. BBC World Service frequency is not within FM range. In addition most stations carried on FM/AM anywhere in the world are mostly local channels. You need the frequency range of LW/SW to access BBC Worldservice.

OYIBN:
@George D.

You did not quite answer sology's question which was straightforward. He asked if foxcrime etc were free-to-air channels, not if they are FTA. He has a good reason for asking. It is simple - they are not free - to - air channels and neither is CNN a free-to-air channel. If CNN was free to air, HITV and DaarSat won't have problems with Dstv which currently has the right to air the channel. As I mentioned earlier, you have the free will to do watch whaever you want free. My own personal logic is that God has blessed me and I can't in good conscience deprive others who are in legitimate business from reaping the fruits of their labour. If the channels you have mentioned are legitimate free to air channels, then dstv, Hitv and DaarSat won't be in business. Their services are not required. They won't even need to bid or have exclusive rights to channel content. Everybody will just buy a big dish and watch hundreds of channels free of charge while the content providers starve!!!!!!!! Happy viewing.

naijafinestgal:
U guyz are selfish, No formal research are be made on small dishes, Nilesat has taken ur minds, Everybody cant afford big dish, lets be reasonable for once, thanks, ohh im using 90cm dish with strong 4663x

Oxone:
well personally i believe in paying tithes but my problem is i prefer giving it to beggars than paying in church. is this wrong peeps

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Image123:
When did somebody become 'my guy', 'the guy'. Thou shall not call his name in vein? Is that humulity or what?
Enigma, answer this added queries if you please?

sleekdot:
I have a company,I pay myself salary,should I pay may tithe from my salary or from the company's profit, or both
I have been paying just from my salary!!

sleekdot:
Is it compulsory to pay my tithe to my church?
i get confused a lot on this issue

pitodenz:
@ sammu diseqc 1.2 positioner uses any kind of actuator or jack and its for big dishes while usual diseqc motors re for small dish 1.2m maximum.    @ enigma plz would u be kind enough to give me the details of how to install usual motor in ph again?

BUTONEDAY:
@ All,
Eutelsat W3A (7E) - Eurosport News is now transmitted Free To Air (11283.00MHz, pol.V SR:27500 FEC:3/4 SID:816 PID:3103/3132.
The above is theory O! from the net. Can someone check it for us?

darqly:
@ olofofo an arm and a leg will do just fine, thank u very much
My decoder is a STARSAT XR7100 usb. The dish is 1.8m i guess for nilesat cos that's what I see whenever I check the satellite list. I get all the show channels, art and JSC. The upgrades unlock the show and art channels periodically.
TIPS pls!!

Now, while I haven't actually done a statistical test to determine what percentage of churches preach compulsory tithes, it seems to me that at least 90% of the churches that I am familiar with, probably 98% of nigerian pentecostal churches make a big deal of tithes as a compulsory matter.  And even those that do not say it is compulsory teach that there are special benefits to be accrued by the person tithing.

abose:
I don't know that you can choose to do something that is "required" or "mandated"

kantoma:
I think even as "Zombees" as we are, could someone tell me that we would be rejected by God and be sent to hell for the giving of 10% of our income to God? And if what we are doing is not a sin, then what's all these fuzz about?

We who argue against the modern teaching of "tithing" acknowledge and accept that a Christian can voluntarily choose to "tithe" (including giving it in the form of money to a church) - preferably when s/he knows that it is not compulsory and s/he is not coerced or manipulated into doing it.

abose:
I believe the question from Kunle was if any evidence existed to say that Abraham gave tithes more than once or if Jacob actually redeemed his pledge or tithed again.

chukwudi44:
Contary to your assertion the levitical tithe was compulsory and any defaultment would result in the curses outlined in the laws of moses.That was what Prophet malachi was talking about.

The truth remains that even when it is not compulsory for people to donate 10% of their ,most pastors continue with this heretic practise to exploit their members,,that is what the likes of kunle are fighting .

Anyone may decide to freely donate to the church,that would be in line with christian teaching,but when someone donates the 10% because of malachi3:10 or their pastors threats that person cannot be said to be practising true christianity.He/she is in bondage and needs to be delivered from the hands of criminals who call themselves men of God.
The act of giving is not wrong but rather the motive behind it.Just like a sranded girl walks up to me beggiong for money,if Igive it to her because Iwant to sleep with her ,I cannot be said to be charitable.

In essense,the act of giving 10% may not be wrong but the motive behind it is what really matters

Pastor AIO:
Huxley, I doubt you've written the above in order to help Christians find their way again.

Pastor AIO:
My own inside all of this is:  Tithe is supposed to be food, not money and further more the awuf is supposed to be shared in the presence of the Lord.  This small detail that is being overlooked is more pertinent than it is being given credit for, I think. ,