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Rolings:
The English common law from which most statutes are derived.

you have not named any law,.
I ask again plz name one christian law and lets see how that law is called christian.
What the vast majority of you do not understand is the west separate religion from Politics.What we have is FREEDOM to practice what ever religion you see fit.watch word FREEDOM.I CHALLENGE YOU AGAIN NAME ONE CHRISTIAN LAW.

Rolings:
Your right to drink beer in zamfara ends when it will interfere with the rights of the people of zamfara who are the majority to abolish alcohol..... that is democracy
Whoever told you different states shouldn't have different laws for their people in a federation. While it's legal in some states of the US for gays to marry it's illegal in other states .
The fact is that Christians are scared of losing the control they have over the lives of everyone in Nigeria because even most of our laws are Christian laws

Name one Christian law .

I'm so sorry for the vast majority of Muslim in Nigeria and in the North . So this I'd all they want ? No education ? Good health facilities ? Housing ? Irrigation and farming to address the heardmen issue .

woodmood:
Good comment.
As a people, we are used to dealing with our eczema rather than tackling our leprosy. On line analysts and bedroom activists couldn't say much when Fasola was shouting. In actual fact, some were hoping that he failed.

Ask that guy if work stop during the last FG on that rd

brainpulse:
When Fashola was shouting that the Senate reduced the budget for the finance of the road despite huge debt owed the contractors by the past administration which his ministry has to pay, the same anti progress Nigerians were happy because it's against this administration, but they never knew that is coming back to hunt the masses.
Monies owed the contractors by GEJ government was the first thing they were settling before the Senathieves reduced the budget for nonsense constituency allowance.

You.made sense until you named GEJ . 2017 make the man rest abeg

LionDeLeo:
I swear, Lagos make sense die .

I even prefer Lagos to some states in some of these so-called developed countries.

Don't get carried away with few high rise buldings and one bridge !

vikstandon:
Alright... A friend has a hard copy, I will get a shot, and send to you.
Just keep in touch

Ok

vikstandon:
What are you beating at...Do I owe you all these explanations.

Not at all.But it will be great to see such Bible physically cos I'm meant to believe it's an Online Bible .

Nobodys:
thats not the topic here.... I pay my tithe at church buh after reading that deut.. From next sunday am taking that tithe to Gods storehouseand giving it to the fatherless and widows..... Cause sincerely i derive more joy and satisfaction in that...

xcelent

[quote author=vikstandon post=61229977][/quote]can we see a sample?

vikstandon:
You think so... But your thought is misperceived!

King James Version, Message Bible, Living Bible... All speaks about same thing
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be meat in mine house (KJV)

Bring your full tithe to the Temple treasury so there will be ample provisions in my Temple (MSG)

Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there will be food enough in my Temple (NLT)

Just like Philip would ask the Ethiopian Eunuch...Now you read this...Do you understand what you are reading?

MSG, have you seen that Bible?

KingRabota:
I knew it!
This is what happens when underage sorry I meant barely legal morons are left to play with moms phone, its like it's only on nairaland that your container is entering abii?
My people come see this kain loudermouth

ok you just buy MB abi?

peckebu:
The gospel can be propagated in different ways you need money for some and some do not need money. For example airing a gospel programme, printing tracts, having a crusade or gospel choir concert etc are ways of spreading the gospel and money is needed for all of these. No one is going to come to ask for money for all of these but tithes and offerings layed down by obedient children of God are used. Giving tithe is one of the ways of attracting God's blessings and protection upon our lives same as giving to the poor and needy. Tithes should be paid in the church. One should not pay tithes and think he's giving to the poor or give to the poor thinking he's giving tithes. I understand you think tithing is a waste but you should try it and see if God will not open the windows of of heaven and pour out a blessing upon you that there shall not be room enough to receive it

The tithe was meant for the POOR.

Yureyes:
I have seen a car dealer who tithed with a car worth the one-tenth of his profit. I am not saying tithe must be money but it can be money. If you sell tomatoes and you think 2 baskets are worth one tenth of your profit and you want to bring them to the house of God? then fine. it's between you an your creator.
But mind you, the purpose of your tithe is to propagate God's work and if your substance can't do that, then why give it as tithe?

Exactly, in the 1st instance tithe was never money, if not the issue of it the chosen place was to far sell your tithe, cos Im sure you can agree with me, you cant sell money even if its 2 heavy.
Like I have been saying, you need to speak to a Levite to understand tithing, they are still very much alive as we speak!

Yureyes:
In Deuteronomy 22: 24-25,
God instructs how to exchange our tithes. He gave the Isrealites permission to exchange their tithe for "Silver" ( which represents money). if you want to pay your tithe in materials, as long as it is worth one tenth of your income. it's a tithe.
Deu 22: 24-25
But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put
his Name is so far away), then exchange your tithe for
silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD
your God will choose.
If you are a coconut seller and you want to bring one tenth of your income which maybe 2 coconuts, get the money value and bring it to the house of God.

WHy did God say this, did you not also see the reason for that?or you chose to turn a blind eye to it as well?
This was directed to those who lived far from the Store house and the place the Lord has chosen.This eliminates the fact that there was Money then even though tithe was no equated to Money.Tithe was not Money during them times.
I cant believe you gave such narrative in your last paragraph even after seeing this

But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put
his Name is so far away), then exchange your tithe for
silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD
Dont this mean if the place is not far bring your tithe the way they are

jamalnation:
read numbers 18:20-32

Numbers 18:20-32New International Version (NIV)

20 The Lord said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites.

21 “I give to the Levites all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance in return for the work they do while serving at the tent of meeting. 22 From now on the Israelites must not go near the tent of meeting, or they will bear the consequences of their sin and will die. 23 It is the Levites who are to do the work at the tent of meeting and bear the responsibility for any offenses they commit against it. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. They will receive no inheritance among the Israelites. 24 Instead, I give to the Levites as their inheritance the tithes that the Israelites present as an offering to the Lord. That is why I said concerning them: ‘They will have no inheritance among the Israelites.’”

25 The Lord said to Moses, 26 “Speak to the Levites and say to them: ‘When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I give you as your inheritance, you must present a tenth of that tithe as the Lord’s offering. 27 Your offering will be reckoned to you as grain from the threshing floor or juice from the winepress. 28 In this way you also will present an offering to the Lord from all the tithes you receive from the Israelites. From these tithes you must give the Lord’s portion to Aaron the priest. 29 You must present as the Lord’s portion the best and holiest part of everything given to you.’

30 “Say to the Levites: ‘When you present the best part, it will be reckoned to you as the product of the threshing floor or the winepress. 31 You and your households may eat the rest of it anywhere, for it is your wages for your work at the tent of meeting. 32 By presenting the best part of it you will not be guilty in this matter; then you will not defile the holy offerings of the Israelites, and you will not die.’




Plz check who that was directed to
Answer not me and you but the LEVITES.
not me and you, to be a livites you must be from the tribe of Levi,its from these tribe teh priest comes out of, every preist back then was a Levi.When the Jews came to Nigeria SE to take blood sample of igbo people who claimed to be Jews, it was teh LEVI DNA they where looking for.If you know any Jewish priest he is in a better place to xplain to you,The command of tithing was for teh Jews and of the benefit of the Levites.

Yureyes:
Tithe is a law: Read Leveticus 27 : 30-34
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the
land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD's: it is holy unto
the LORD.
And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he
shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.
And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even
of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be
holy unto the LORD.
He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither
shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and
the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.
These are the commandments, which the LORD
commanded Moses for the children of Israel in mount
Sinai.


Please do not confuse tithing with giving to the poor. As Christians, we are to give to the poor and help them but your tithe should be kept aside for God, it should be brought into his house to propagate his word.

How does that passage direct us to think money when it comes to tithe?

Tosin249:
God said bring in ye ur tithe into the house of God so that there will be meat in the house of God not to beggar's.

what bible passage did yu get that frm?

vikstandon:
Malachi 3:10 (Message Bible)

Thats not a Bible, thats an Online passage,Im talking King James version or anything b4 THAT

vikstandon:
My brother I dear not judge u on this... But would like to point ur attention to this...
Malachi 3:10b says 'Bring your full tithe to the Temple treasury so there will be ample provisions in my Temple'.[b][/b]

Because we tend to judge the Ministers of God and their life of affluence we also take part in their sins by taking what is not ours out of where it rightly belongs...Two wrongs don't make the right!

I will still want to say this...'They that are led by the Spirit are Children of God'.
If what you did was by prompting of the Spirit...I stand not to condemn you!
But from all I read from u...you did that because you were planning to boycott Sunday service.

As for putting a smile on the beggar...God's blessings won't elude you, and just as she did pray for you. Treasures are been unleased and unearthed for u. But you do need to put yourself aright.

Give to Caesar what is due to Caesar and forget not to give to God what is truly HIS.

SHALOM!

Bross what Bible version was this highlighted words quoted from plz??

Chommieblaq:
I believe the sole purpose of tithing is to provide for others who don't have, to share in love.

Each mallam to him own kettle.

Exactly, thats the Gospel truth,Christians can never get the explanation of tithing right simply cos its of the Jews,Tithing was meant for the livites,who are they(Livites) people who have no land no allotments to farm to earn anything back in them days they where the least of the society,

omoiyalayi:
You are one of the people keeping beggars especially Muslim beggars on our street thinking free money will always come even when they have garnered enough money to start up a business

Nothing is wrong with giving your tithe to a beggar though, but I prefer motherless home or anywhere you are sure the money will be well utilize and the glory will be giving to God eventually.

There have been beggars on the streets B4 Jesus was Born

victorazyvictor:
hehehehehehe continue naw.
you just cut a place in Bible and paste here.

actually copied from the Bible, I dont post my own thought, what have you to say to that page? or did I manufacture it , you can see Money and produced used in one page so that eliminates the issue of *if there was money in them days!

Lexusgs430:
Make I forward my PayPal or skye bank details?

U don start baba

victorazyvictor:
Do you know that for this guy to pay his tithe to the wrong places will demand him x2 of the tithe? ask ur pastor or
Change your preacher.

24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink,h or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.i 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.
28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithesl of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotmentn or inheritanceo of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your

Chommieblaq:
You just brought out yourself Sir
19-21 talks about clean and uncleanliness
22-29 talks about tithe
"Tithes
22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name,d so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. [b]24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink,h or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.i 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.
28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithesl of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotmentn or inheritanceo of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may blessr you in all the work of your hands."[/b]

There you have it.

The highlighted says it all case closed.

Reference:
Because that was their cycle of commerce. Most churches ask on a monthly basis because today the month is our generally acceptable cycle of commerce. I close my accounts in December so my cycle of tithes is yearly. There is no specific time frame. There is a specific value and direction. That is the subject under debate.

Wrong, tithing then was not attributed to Money, so there is no need bringing commerce into it.Look for a more suitable explanation to support your arguments plz.THEY HAD THE YEAR OF THE TITHE, they only people who could explain this are teh Jewish people whom im lucky to live among.Christian cant realy explain this as its not in their calling.The people to who tithes where meant for are Jewish the lineage of teh levi

victorazyvictor:
There is something you failed to understand. Tithing is different from giving to the poor.

Tithe is a very strict stuff people don't know, is a command.

Giving to the poor is just showing kindness to fellow human and God because he said love one another. Give to the poor you've lend Him.

When you pay Tithe, window of heaven will be opened to you AND when you give to the poor, you will receive from God. both of them are similar but different, they are like twins but different.

When the window of God haven't opened (Tithe) your giving to the poor will yield no fruit AND when the window is open and God didn't poor out (giving) you will get nothing.

plz understand or ask your pastor if your a christian

We talking tithing, give a verse that support waht you just said.!
And check my rsponse to 4 of your questions

victorazyvictor:
Brother your ignorance no get part two (sorry no offence)
1. How many places is church mentioned in Bible?
2. What is storehouse?
3. How do you access it?
4. Who is the stakeholder of storehouse?

#1 6 places , verses Mathew 18:20,corithians 11;23-26,Titus 1:5-9,Ephisians 5:18-21,Mathew 18:17(Practical)1 corithians 14:26
#2 A store house is where you store things
#3 You access teh store house fru its doors, a typical store house is made of mud and thatch roof, to keep heat, it is used to store grains for the off season, the type used by teh king in Josephs dream to store grains
#4 Stake holders are the needy in this context its extended to the linage of the levites http://www.biblegems.com/MAT16V6.HTM

victorazyvictor:
You kept quoting verses you never understand

It is i n plain English, there is no ambiguity in that.there is no room for expansion or explanation.it is waht it is.Church,Store,Tithe,Money

Seamareggae:
So him giving it to a beggar... Means he didn't give it to God... Right?

Until he gives it to a pastor... They it becomes title right... .

God help us...

ahah Guy leave them nah, I nor see how God go take punish a person who had been giving to the poor his whole life