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Niseamaka: EMPTY PROUDESSS!.That`s why Nigeria will not wake up from this deep slumber in a long time. Many people are used to suffering, smiling and feeling very contented. Why?, because that`s the type of life they`ve known and lived all along.So what do you expect from people like that : blind patriotic proudness. Although i love my country very much and visit regularly with my wife and kids, i cannot be proud of the pathetic state of affairs in that country.

Well said,I wish most of these guys here would have the opportunity to live in a society where every man is equal and everything works, not visit live properly.

Oluwaadajo: So what are we saying here?

That if you live in Africa, you should plan on committing suicide because you have no hope of a better future.....please enlighten me as am confused.

Is the future ours or God's?

Listen even here i n the so called civilised society people kill themselves everyday so why the big bashing

Chinom: May you rot in whatever shithole you're living in abroad. I'm sick and tired of reading such comments from losers who clearly cannot afford to live in Nigeria. Let me make one thing clear to all you Naija bashers in the diaspora. It's poverty that drove you lot to the western world in the first place and it's poverty that will keep you there. I hope you've bought your grave in US, UK or Kazachstan.
Let it be known to you that ordinary men do have a very fullfilling life in Nigeria. Staying in and loving Naija has nothing to do with how deep your pocket is. It has to do with attitude and your state of mind.

Ah take it easy nah, no need for such hate, the guy was just xpressing his mind not to any particular person.Even if you are dangote, you still gonna have a crap life in today's Nigeria cos U r gonna drive ur 50 million Naira car on crap roads,you can never get a contract without bribe,you have to bribe or beg police,if you are too rich you cant move without security while the mayor of London don't even have o ne security following him, he rides a bike to work.If you are so rich you still gonna live in a society where there are no proper fire brigade so if your mansion catch fire you are on ur own and ofcos there is no insurance .You are at max risk each time you leave ur home whether you fly in teh sky or travel by land or water, that was what the poster was trying and referred to class

Oluwaadajo:



Agreed. The thing is, not everyone based abroad is successful. Many refuse to do menial work in Nigeria but will jump at the chance to sweep the streets of London . I wonder why

lol cos they get paid up to £8 an hour and they do 8 hours a day

angry9ja: Please can you quote under section what and paragraph what in Nigerian Constitution that forbids lesbianism? Kindly, educate us more on that please. Thank you

In as much as I hate that LAW, its true, it was pass on by OBJ, the law is the law as sad as it is, we got to respect it.Drinking of Alcohol in Libia is a criminal offence, you can go to jail.

teniyi: Why are all these filthy thing common among the christians? Rubbish!

where in the initial post did they mention that them women where Xtians? PLZ stop the hate hence we are moving backwards.This has got nothing to do with religion, there are loads of Pakistani Gay guys here in London, does it mean Muslems are GAY?,plz upgrade your way of thinking, urs is outdated

How about if he just trained tehm, pays them 20K at the end and give them certificate of complition and asked them to go to the labour market to look for their own Jobs, what will all yah ranting here say?If I can remmeber, people pay money to get trained not paid to be trained, so them guys should be greatful, its a win win situation, lest we 4get, this was meant to be for the fresh graduates, people who dont have a JOB

Proudlygemini: Proudlygemini: Please nairalanders I need your advice on getting a spouse visa.
I would start off by saying I recently just got married to a British expat that lives and works here in Lagos but travels during the holidays back home to the uk. Before we got married we decided that Nigeria would be our home but we'll always travel during the holidays back to the uk. Based on this decision, his last trip this December he sold his house since there's no one there. Now we plan on vacationing this summer for about a month but I'm confused. I do not intend to live in the uk atleast not for another 4 years, do I still apply for a spouse visa even though i plan to stay a month. We also decided to rent an apartment while we are there. My strong tie to Nigeria is my 5 years old son from a previous relationship and my business also my husbands contract isn't due till 2016. I have also read that he needs to earn 18k and above annually to meet d financial requirement, right now he''s paid 5kpounds monthly that's 60k a year. How long does the spouse visa take? Do I have to do a change of name on my passport cos I recently renewed it and it doesn't expire till 2017. Do I fill the application in my name as it is on my passport or in his? Where also can i get to borw the forms online. Please I need you advice on how to get this right, thank you.

go to the home office website, all the relivant forms are there, btw, I recon you guys must live together for considerable amount of time, now the rules regarding the sponsor and the wife living outside the Uk is a tricky one, you will need to Email the Home office or The forign office for clerification on that matter.

jenni1108: Hello to the experts in the house, me and my husband are about to apply for this visa and need some guidance and advice.

I am based in the UK and my husband in Nigeria.

Now who is sponsoring who?

jeronimo: The mistake many people make is they think rich people throw money away. Dangote is the richest businessman in Africa, so what? How do you think he got there? I'll list the answers: hardwork, Shrewdness, craftiness, a bit of dirty hands,and a lot of sacrifice. That is what it takes to be a successful businessman in a terrain as rugged as Nigeria. You don't expect him to be paying drivers like oil workers because he's rich,otherwise his business would ve crumbled a long time ago. Take a look at any successful businessman around you,they are usually very tight-fisted when it comes to spending money especially in paying their staff right except they want to show off or have a specific motive. So poster don't blame him, work your way to being a successful businessman.

You guys shouting 30K too small, you wait, you dont even know if you are going to get an appointment letter yet

apala911: you had better bury your head in shame for this thoughtless submission of yours.....kudos to the nigeria's security for a well done job.....Nairalanders and Nigerians at large should beware of people like dis poster....he might likely be one of them...MCTHEWWWWW

Thoughts and words like these reflect the dark ages.These are suspects, they need to be tried in a criminal court to prove they are guilty.If the police or SSS are so damn sure they got the right people why are they delaying their trialsMessed up state called Nigeria

[quote author=Adura_ngba]Who is comparing with those back in Nigeria. you are one of those who dont want anything negative said about Europe, you always say, shebi worse things happen in Nigeria. mtcheewww.[/quote]How did I mean (not wanting anything negative to be said about Europe)? is it just Europe we have in the world? try and re read my post pay attention to the bit where I made mention WORLDWIDE,I got a good name for you but I have a hatred for name calling

[quote author=Adura_ngba]This is so true. Go to Hackney, Peckham and all those places in London and you will see such type of kids all over the place, boys and girls and you wonder which homes they come out from.[/quote]Sister worldwide that's the sad storey, at least them ones got homes to go back to, how about them ones in Nigeria who aint got no homes to go back to, some become rich, some die why some cant be catigorised

Kamsy10: I disagree with your first statement totally. My dad made a genius out of me. If not for him I would have just been an average child.
Parents MUST learn to train their children not only academically but otherwise. Most bad behavior in children should be blamed on their parents cos they usually don't start on time to train/discipline the kids and by the time they know it, the kids are out of hand for example you see your child being so disrespectful to people and you start hearing excuses like this from the parents '' oh he/she is still a child'', "haha, he got it from his dad"

I've witnessed it didn't end well for both the child and the parents

No entirely true, check what kids of billionaires are doing all over the world, the get first class training everywhere they go still they still flops if not for the wealth of their parents

[quote author=Michky]OP, please don't mind many of those useless comment before mine. This matter is quite emotional and i believe it should be treated as such. As you rightly pointed out, misplaced priorities is a huge problem in today's families. I don't know why people still feel the obligation to bear children or send them abroad (without adequate attention) for heavens sakes. Dullards, that what they are. Abeg, don't mind them jare. I, and a few others here, understand how you feel and the lesson you're trying to convey. God bless you for sharing.[/quote
There is realy no point calling any o ne's post useles cos out of useless you find useful, my point is:OP says she was a KID when she was sent abroad, now tell me how does a 16 year Old get sent to the Uk from Nigeria Legally without the parents accompanying them or a Legal guardian? mind you Im talking someone not up to 18 years old or even 16,from the story the parents are in Nigeria etc to be honest with you the whole of my Adult hood was spent here in the UK I was i n my very early 20s when I came over here, No help at all but I made my choice.Life is choice driven anyhow you lay ur bed so shall you sleep on em

andyanders: OP, I thank God for you because you were strong to have overcome what you went through. I have counselled so many people on the danger of travelling abroad as a minor and even as an adult. I have told them that you are on your own when you get over there. No brother, father, mother uncles or friends who is gonna be there for you.

I could remember a time I had no money after paying my semester fees, I had no money to feed on and I was searching my entire house looking for a dime or quarter to get some food and it was too rough as I had no one to turn to. At a point, a car I bought on note, was repossessed by the company I bought it from. It took me time to rebuild my credit again as it affected me. You see some guys in the US who hasn't come home for over 15 yrs because they drifted as a result of hardship.
People think that coming abroad is the best thing not knowing that it is a world where you are on your own.

I just read your POST, check it, you where not a KID at this times, OP says she was.As a KID in the UK your guardian are responsible for your actions in some ways

modicum: I came to UK in the 80s, went to Skinners school for girls in Stamford hill where I failed woefully. I come from a family that going abroad was like going to the market for us. I lived with my sister-in-law who I happened to have appeared to as a burden at the time. I had no one to take me out as a child, didn't enjoy McDonalds's treats, remember been bought KFC once by my mother's younger sister who was in UK at the time. Most days I had to walk from Pembury estate, Hackney to Stamford hill because I had no transport fee. An uncle got me free school meals from the government so I always had lunch at school but other meals hhhhmmm not guaranteed....

No one ever asked me how I was doing in school even thou I was a failure, never disclosed my report sheet because my results were always 'U- Unclassified' worse than F9. I lived at the expense of few of my brother's friends who were ready to give me £5 in exchange of me seating on their laps whilst they used my nipples as a toy. On few occasions my immediate families would give me £5, £10 but NONE EVER TOOK ME ON AS HIS OR HER RESPONSIBILITY. One glorious day, a brother of mine took me on when he noticed that I have been associating with friends that were smoking and sexing at the age of 12,13.14,15 but due to malicious beating everyday I had no choice other than to run away from his house. ....

I became streetwise, smoking heavily at the age of 11/12, did my first abortion at the age of 14/15. I was unable to contact my mother because I had no access to telephone moreover i didn't know how to use the phones then. I lived with a Jamaican friend who was few years older than me and we had a man friend aged 50t whom was impotent but would pay our rent whenever we allowed him to lick/suck us. Hhhhmmmm I'm sobbing as I'm writing this; I don't know why my spirit has led me to share this horrific and pathetic story on www but I am sure it is to bless someone outthere so I am not ashamed of letting it out because someone outthere will think twice before making the mistake my family made.

Myself and friends began to find it easy to be befriending men for money at night clubs (Golivers, Petter Stringfellows etc) at that very young age in which I found disgusting but was never slept with but they molested my body orally. I can't even carry on expressing my bitter past experiences because I have learnt to see them as my strengths that made me who I am today....

The koko of this post is this.... Now in UK we see Nigerian children killing, shooting, stabbing, selling drugs, raping etc and we wonder why they are ridiculing our darling country's name.... Hhhhmmmm it is not the kids fault it is the fault of the parents that weren't ready to prioritise their priorities. I can't blame my mother and neither can I blame my father because they don't like to get involved in the way our brothers and sisters were bringing us up. They believed when you give a goat to someone, you let go of the rope, least do they knew that their darling daughter had become something else..... You may be boosting that your child lives in London, America etc but do you ever ask yourself how life is treating them where they are

So many parents in Nigeria believe the field is greener on the other side forgetting that NO ONE CAN TRAIN YOUR KIDS THE WAY YOU CAN EXCEPT LOVING & GOD FEARING PEOPLE. In UK so many Nigerian parents have misplaced their priorities, they rather work 24/7, make all monies to build mansions in Nigeria at the expense of their children's lives. So many Nigerian parents in UK don't even attend parents's evening at their kids school, some can't even help their kids with homework. Some belief their kids are at home and they are safe not knowing who is there with them. Some would rather spoil their kids with money & expensive outfits instead of investing quality time in them.

Sending your kids abroad to be looked after by someone else is a pure waste of time and bringing your own kids from 9ja without giving them all the time needed is an irresponsible move and to be working all God sent hours, making sterling, dollars, euro, naira etc without spending quality time with your kids is a disgrace to parenthood. This is one of our bad irresponsible cultures, most children in Nigeria were brought up by housemaids/gateman/next door/grandmother/ neighbour etc. Nigerians don't believe in family planning rather they will have so many children and start using them to hawk sweets, bread etc after school...

Having a child is not by force, God did not say YOU MUST HAVE CHILDREN, YES HE STATED 'MULTIPLY' but he didn't mean we should do it to suffer them. Having children does not mean you will live your life joyfully and it doesn't give you a place in heaven either, instead your children may make you to miss heaven if care is not taken.

I am a product of a neglected, nonchalant, cultural upbringing and I WILL NEVER WISH IT ON MY GREATEST ENEMY BECAUSE I HAD IT ROUGH AND IN SADNESS. Let us stop being selfish for ones and stop pushing our problems/burdens on others. Your child should be with you no matter how poor or rich you are and you must teach them in the ways of God, NOT YOUR OWN STANDARDS....

Some parents in Nigeria don't mind if their children are sleeping with big men for money, it is saddddddd

BY:ABEFE IBADIARAN

how do one send their Kid( under teh age of 16) to the Uk these days?

grafikii: And how much did we earn from oil, yet some hat wearing mofos we keep shouting niger Delta money.

thatch just how much they get in a quarter from Oil revenue, dont be fooled,check how many millions of barrels of oil get sold in a day

Y not, you willl be suprised to know that most part will fit with other Nisan SUV

[quote author=Karev_wite]mehn dts bad...9ja ppl own sf 2 much...na dm go do court,traditional n wite wedding...kilode...dt y i luv d wite ppl marriage...d couple,lawyer n a witness kase klose.[/quote]No be them rent cars pass? U don attend one see as E be? Limo only 2K pounds approx =N=500K plus

deaconfrost: May God bless you, your generation and your generation's generation... some NLanders can actually make wonderful comments!

you are both totally wrong, here in the western world, its the richest that actually borrow flashy big cars for that special day, if you aint rich can U borrow/rent a 24 seater Hummer stretch Limo?

binger: Feb. 14 was meant for love expressions and not marriage proposals. So,allow us to spoil u with love,s3x & money...afterwards,we can consider placing a ring on that finger.

that suppose B a Woman writing not a MAN lol

manny4life: Well if he did, he needs to go to his insurance company and file a claim. Dana nor it's parties WILL NEVER pay such amount even if he dragged them to court. Even if he were in the west, no airline will pony up that huge amount.

well that's where he might have a problem, it might just be and insurance on paper not in practice, ie don't really pay true premium just like car owners in Nigeria claim to insure their cars and don't pay nada as its not enforceable in 9ja, his case is civil, he should spend his money on a V. good lawyer and if it does go to court, it would be him claiming from DINA via his Insurer no directly.

See what happens when you give authority to Idiots

emmysenior: Ha! Ha!! Ha!!! Your spellings said it all... I hope you know that bribing lecturers is not possible over there? Olodo.

This is the embarassing idiology and attitude we should try and get rid off,when I use to work for the NHS, I know of a world class Psychologist who's spelling was wack, but that did not hinder his work or way of thinking

Tstark: This post right here says it all. The OP was talking out of his backside for the most part, but he did have a few facts [just a few, maybe 1 self].

No point at all, dem words came out of a US born Nigerian not a hustler

Blazay: Nigerian 'navy seal'!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtAQ0PRPQ8I

Bro leave theese people make dem dey decieve themselves,if Nigeria is so good, tell OP to go there to live

Godogwu: LOL thats the people you know...you are clearly not my class. I'm sure you're one of those die hard Nigerians who are too ashamed to accept that people make it in Nigeria. Frankly, the US is just for school for me since my dad insisted but i'm leaving immediately after. you sound so broke by the way

Take it easy, U just said you are schooling which means you are still very young, when you get to certain age ur priority would change,if Nigeria is so cool as you paint it,Im sure you will go to a very Gppd Uni there.

trent9002: USA, UK etc is NOT the best place to move, Its all just names. Smaller well doing countries like Singapore, Scandinavian countries etc are much better. Just the language barrier.

Exactly thats why you should not go there cos language sets you back 5 years.

pash4naija: @op, certain elements of your post is right but all I can see is 'get rich'. Life is not all about material riches and hard work no matter where you are has not killed anyone. Riches also consist of: peace of mind, seeing the fruit of your labour whether its a monthly salary or profits from business, travelling to wherever without hassles, having the basic necessities of life and overall being happy AND satisfied. Satisfaction can come through various avenues and not riches alone. Its because of riches that people do rituals in Nigeria for money or kill their relative out of jealousy or go into armed robbery. No where is perfect but some places are better than others. There are people in Nigeria who are legitimately doing business but finding it damn hard cos of so many factors. There are thousands of graduates without jobs (mind you, not everyone can run a business). This also applies to other places in the world. Like someone commented earlier, she didn't like her job in naija and her fiance couldn't get a job in his field either, but since moving to canada it has worked out beautifully for them. All these said, I see this as another 'abroad' vs 'living in nigeria' thread. Let's live and let live. By all means if you want to move to Nigeria, feel free and those who want to leave Nigeria pls do so by all means. I don't see anything wrong either way. It only becomes a problem when it is borne out of desperation and people do all sorts of illegal things just to leave. No two destinies are ever the same

I tire, men go Abroad to hustle for innitial finance to come back home to establish, but for those who want to make there home, they are on thier own

Tinkybabe: @op You've spoken the undiluted truth!thanks for the post..but trust that some people will never learn until they find themselves in the pitfall.

Leave tha thing the OP is saying,ask him to go and live in 9ja for just 6 months if he dont change his statement

Governor controlling traffic with no Hi Viz on,this Mumuness get CV I swear