₦airaland Forum

Volksfuhrer:
Perhaps simpler is better. Your attempt to discredit a generally held belief by smuggling into the discourse a far-fetched premise of cost of running 'flexible' power is intellectually dishonest. Why would 'inflexible' power be more expensive per unit of scale? It is an economic aberration!

The question we should answer is, 'would fixing power create more employment given the status quo?' Well, the answer is 'yes'!

Nobody is saying the use of a resource like power could not be optimised with better policies, so what exactly is the point you are making!

Projecting a veneer of sophistication with esoteric economic assumptions is practically useless! People on the streets are much smarter than your condescending attitude suggests.

Kindest regards

omenka:
It would be foolhardy for Government to deregulate (privatise) and then regulate prices as well. What I believe is, with sincerity, the success in the telecoms sector can be replicated in the power sector. As long as there isn't monopoly, competition would naturally take care of the cost of services provided.

There is no way one can argue for running businesses on generators in preference to sustenance of businesses on public power supply.

Pavore9:
If you are in such business you must preserve it or it gets rotten. if the cost of electricity from the power company is same as running my generator l will still go for the power company as l do not have to deal with pollution and noise associated with generators. l do believe there are severally ways through which the cost of electricity supplied can be lowered.

Volksfuhrer:
Don't bother yourself with that half-baked analysis. Perhaps, the op is blind to factories closing down, laying off workers and relocating elsewhere! The money you spend to fuel your generator has alternative uses: it could be saved or invested or better still stimulate demand for other goods and services! SMH at the op!

emiye:
you are the naive one.

Pavore9:
Let us assume l open up a butchery which requires electricity to preserve the meat, l would certainly need workers.

omenka:
your argument is terribly flawed. You are just quoting arbitrary figures to support your stand. If you say the bolded, then one could easily assume the reverse of course, thereby rendering your point useless.

Now, look at this:

For the regular "I pass my neighbor" generator, a full tank which is about 5 litres would cost N450 (assuming an average cost of N90 per litre). A full tank runs for 7hours on average. If it is operated for 24 hours, it means one would require about 15 litres, bringing the cost of running it for that long to N6,750!! Multiply this by 30 and you get a whooping N202,500!!

If one were to slash this figure in half to reflect that these businesses run on an average of 12hours a day, you'd still get N101,250!

Now, compare that to what is charged on average by electricity regulators for such small businesses that run on such generators and you'd see what a colossal loss of income and savings businesses suffer. These are monies that could be reinvested into expansion of businesses which then translates into hiring more hands (employment).

Your argument really doesn't hold water.

Tayeni:
i dont have to even share this with friends offline....there are enough sound people here to tear your article into shreds.

The first step to take on our journey to industrialization (which will in turn take care of unemployment) is to take care of the Power problem....otherwise, all the policies put in place wont work.

In response to your questions
*yes i 'm into business.
*i dont have to be formally trained in economics and sociology to do the simple math Omeka did up there(check it out again)....my primary sch education will suffice.

chuna1985:
This guy has never done any business involving power. if u have, u will discover that it costs millions of naira monthly to fuel generators for big manufacturing companies.

Getting electricity is the most important step to create employment, government laws is the second.

Pavore9:
More SMEs will pop up thus jobs.

nwanna89:
He has a point. We run a manufacturing company and EEDC gave us a bill of 70,000 naira when we barely even get light upto 12 hours per week. I can imagine what the bill will be like when we have constant power. Constant electricity is important but we cant overlook the cost. I believe thats what he is trying to say

Tayeni:
let me get you right before i reply appropriately....
Are u implying that its cheaper to run a generator than to pay ur electricity bills?.
i suspect you are a student therefore not yet responsible for your bills
or you have never run a business before
or u are not resident in Nigeria
or simply being mischievious....

Tayeni:
i doubt if you are involved in any business that has to do with manufacturing. If you were, you wont underestimate the higher cost of generating electricity privately as opposed to centrally generated electricity. dobt u think its absurd that every telecom mast has to hv a generator in Nig to function? same for every ATM.

imagine u are a startup...and have 10 naira to set up....u find out u have to set aside 3 naira for "flexible" energy. if u had procured 2 more machines with ur 3 naira instead of gnerator, u would have employed atleast two more operators to man ur extra machines.
ur extra output would help u to be competitive in the market place....you will make more sales at less production cost....u will make more profit from which u can re-invest....then u can employ more workers....its a chain reaction and its hard to tell where it ends. its a simplistic way of looking at the situation but that pretty much sums it up

frm the road side welder to the factory floors...the groaning is the same.
its a more efficient and less costly source of electricity even if the current rate is doubled than ur "flexible" electricity.

but you are right because stable electricity is not the only remedy for job creation....the approach has to be holistic

ramdris:
Yes to some level as more investors will come back into the country. Nigeria due to her population will yield profit but the cost of running bizness here is quite high which was why many firms left this country to our neighboring countries to do bizness.

the assumption
I have heard it said by folks that the government should just fix electricity, and job creation would take care of itself.
I find this assertion extremely naïve and always look at folks that echoe this from the corner of one of my eyes.


the reality
I'll burst this assumption by first pointing you to the fact that Nigeria currently has loads of 'flexible' electricity
Yep, your generator that constantly disturbs your neighbour is a tool for flexible electricity.
You can take it anywhere with you even to the forest to provide electricity for your bush meat hunting business as long as you have fuel.
yes, generators and petrol are abundant in Nigeria.

The challenge is the cost of purchasing and running them.


the more you look, the less you see
When folks ask and pray that government provide electricity, they seem to forget that what matter is not if there is constant "NEPA" power supply
It is the cost of the energy that really matters relative to other costs.

If for an hour of "NEPA" light, the price is set at N2,000 I wonder what jobs will come out of such federally generated electricity.
You err if you think that high prices cannot be set for centrally generated electricity.
Your error could be in the same magnitude as your dad thinking that cement price would always remain at N50 hence he was in no hurry to buiold hios house.
Ever heard of monopoly?


Separating the corn from the chaff
Well this piece was simply to drag us back to reality
to make us understand that Job creation is not a fluke activity domiciled in the realms of masturbatory politics

When a government wants job created, it consciously creates and enforces policies (systemic structures) that allow job creation flourish
It's almost like how you tend and protect your garden to ensure that your crops grow right, and not just throwing your maize around like the sower in the bible



HOME WORK
Provide a list of policies that when viewed holistically can have a positive impact on Job creation

mbulela:
.....For empirical evidence of jobs and electricity, please see the economic impact of Eskom's recent failures in South Africa.

mbulela:
Sir,

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15. Finally, sir forget this talk of job creation. Create NEPA (pardon the pun) and the jobs will create themselves.

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irunoobo:
This election is not about GEJ been scammed in southwest or not. The people of the SW and north spoke the truth with their votes. It is unfortunate the Igbos made a wrong political gamble by supporting GEJ even though he failed woefully and did nothing tangible for their region. They failed to forget the past and embrace national unity hence their political decisions has always damaged their chances of having a major political influence or relevance in the Nigerian system.

There were so many indications that Jonathan was going to lose - He prepared late; he was careful with the timing of his declaration, when body language showed he was interested. He had no message for the people. All I heard were trains and fertilizers, YouWin, benin-Ore road and SureP(Really?) for 6 years. His campaign strategies reeled of derogatory statements and unnecessary personality attacks instead of concrete manifestos. APC employed consultants, PDP employed losers (FFKs, Okupe, Abati, Reuben, TANs etc). Jonathan heated the polity with ethnic-religious campaign strategies, jumping from one church to another; what do you think the Muslims would do? His wife continued to make derogatory statements against the North calling them names for making babies they can't cater for and insulting them with the constant mention of Almajiri schools. He was deceived by his aides , greedy people around him and he became a sectional leader. He was a bad product and I made mention of this regularly, a bad product never sells.

So I would say he scammed himself, he deceived himself by running to the south west bribing kings for endorsements as if the masses don't know what they really want.


He has successfully created a divide along tribal, religious and ethnic line all around the country and it will take a massive national reorientation to restore our national unity.

I will not pat him at the back for conceding defeat cos he already knew what awaits him if he acted on the contrary. He was part of the crew that ousted Gbagbo and he is fully aware of the watchful eyes of the ICC and instead of spending the rest of his life in jail like Gbagbo, he chose to return to Otueke to enjoy his loot in peace.

Gej should have won this elections easily if he had the interest of the masses at heart. He will forever live with the stigma of the first incumbent president to be ousted in Nigeria.

esere826:
210K yearly or monthly?
If its monthly, then it is a little bit expensive sha

I've got a friend in UK paying some 600 pounds per month for his child's crech
it makes sense for him because his wife and himself make about 1000 pounds every day between them.
It is convenient and cheaper for them to use the crech instead of the wife staying back at home.

TBrownAuto:
1000 pounds per day i hate lies

lawlahbammy:
Seconded.......some people can lie

Titto:
I met a naija man about five years back he earns £1000/ day way back then. I also know people that earns in the range of £700/day. My Dh and I earns about half of that now and we still aim higher. Maybe you need to change your circle of friends.

TBrownAuto:
1000 pounds per day i hate lies

benebaby77:
Take your email off before spammer start sending you unsolicited messages. And lest I forget, this esere826 no go send you anything because he values his identity than what he will impact on ones...

britiko:
your analogy is quack.
Tehn, needed suggestions, that's why the question was thrown to d house. Its none of your
Business whether someone contributed or not.
Cos you av funds doesn't make you smarter than
Your counterpart that has nothing today

britiko:
So how do u recognize the Anonymous donors suggestions?

Because someone didn't contribute cash doesn't mean he/ she can't make a sensible suggestion as to how to handle d funds.

NovusHomo:
Like George W. Bush would advise, do not "misunderestimate" what Jonah can do.