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Compensation?

Gemma11:
But did he lie under oath?

The Daily Mail said he had the passport of a 41 year old.
The Prosecutor said he was 15.
As I said David has not yet had his day in court where he has given evidence under oath.

The facts remaining are:
David is a Nigerian National who first entered the UK in Feburary this year with a visa application supported by Ekweremadu -Strike 1

David is now in the UK and was here for the purposes of Organ Donation. Strike 2 against the Ekweremadus' who paid for David flight and accomodation while in London (Why did they bring him to the UK?)

UK LAW specifically states that visitors to the UK are only allowed to donate organs to family or close personal relationship like spouse - Strike 3 against the Ekweremadus'
"You can only visit the UK to donate organs to: a family member who you're genetically related to (for example your sibling or parent) someone you have a close personal relationship with (for example your partner or friend)"
https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor/visit-for-medical-reasons#:~:text=If%20you're%20visiting%20as,example%20your%20partner%20or%20friend)

If he lied under oath, he'd face legal charges for sure cause that would be perjury. However, regardless of whether he lied under oath or not, if he lied at all, passing the refugee hearing would still be a tough call. How do you think Asylum works? You just beg them and they'll give you? Have you ever been to a refugee hearing or spoken to anyone who has? If it's on record that he lied about his age (in or out if court), he'll have a hard time navigating that during his hearing. Those guys will scrutinize his story like crazy.

Ballzproblemm:
what does any of the rubbish you wrote have to do with the OP post , you mumu i swear

I was referring to the part of his title that says "fear women". But then reading your the way to talk to people, it's understandable why you don't see anything wrong with such discriminatory expressions. Y'all are so crude.

Nozino:
Misrepresentation? Do you have his birth record? If he says he is a minor and you can’t prove beyond all reasonable doubt that he isn’t a minor, then a minor he is. BVN records do not prove anything as they can be changed anytime several times. This ruling doesn’t change much for the criminal senator and his criminal wife.

I'm not sure you know how the law works. If the court rules he's not a minor, he's legally not a minor regardless of anything he says afterwards. So all these things you're saying were only applicable before the court's ruling; except he intends to appeal the judgment. Just like a sentence, a ruling is also considered conclusive.

Besides, you are wrong, it's not all about what he says, they're many biological ways to get an estimate of someone's age if it comes to that. The UK court does not depend on what he says alone.

You have a calling to start up your own ministry? You mean you hear directly from the spirit and yet you're asking Nairaland people what to do?

Gemma11:
We are yet to hear the boy's full testimony under oath.

He also doesn't have to be a child in order to file for asylum

No one said he needs to be a child to be granted a refugee status, but if he lied about his age just to indict the senator, passing the refugee hearing would be the least of his worries.

Even if this guy doesn't win the election, at least, he used it to build the so-called structure. There was no way he'd have a structure if he didn't put himself out there.

an0daGuy:
I don’t care. They swindled him into coming to the uk all in a bid to harvest the poor lads kidney.

Both ekweremadu and his wife must be thrown in jail and the keys thrown in the sea and swallowed by a shark.

Let pdp turn to fishermen to try and save them

You know the boy can also be jailed for misrepresentation, right?

postbmd:
soo we should give women a hall pass because of ur reasons shey

How did you come to this conclusion after reading my post? I am saying, if your wife messes up, hold her accountable not her gender. What do women do that a man has not done before? Bokoharam people are men, it's Fulani herdsmen and not Fulani herdswomen, men sleep with househelps, etc. But we don't go about saying "fear men", "that gender", "d!ck people", etc. These things are disgusting and they don't speak well of the family you come from.

Nigeria has religious bigotry, tribalism, classism, etc and now, y'all also want to add sexism to it? To what extent do you really want to keep dividing yourselves? You think insulting your women makes you any better? If your women are terrible, the men that bring into this world can never be better.

It's okay to share your thoughts, ideas or opinions but the issue is when you label them as facts. While what you've said is not impossible, you also don't have any evidence but your gut feeling. These are strong claims that could trigger a lot of things, so be mindful of how you present them.

Next time, start with "I strongly believe...".

It's just unbelievable that people need to be told this. You don't kill people for thier sexuality, it doesn't make any logical sense!

Nice. They are two main issues here: his age and his consent. If he's not a minor, the investigation can then focus on his awareness of the plan from the onset.

TheWolfen:
That ain't a cobra but another type of snake with two heads

thesicilian:
Being a snake is bad enough, but being a double headed one is on another level. Literally a 2-faced snake

It's actually a genetic disorder, and we've seen that in humans too. The snake will die off before maturity age

You guys and this your gender dichotomy. We read about men who rape women both elderly and children, men who kill their girlfriends, men who maim and scam others, but we never say fear men. Then your wife does something terrible and you think it's a reason to fear women.

I thought such sentences were reserved for premeditated murder? Yes, his greed and stupidity let to the death of these people, but did he take them to the sea to kill them? He wanted to make extra money and had an accident in the process. I see why he'd be jailed, I just didn't think that could fetch him such a sentence. Of course, I don't mean to undermine the sorrows of those that lost thier loved ones. I'm just trying to put logic before emotions. May the souls of the departed rest in peace and may thier loved ones find ways to move on.

festacman:
Sen Ike Ekweremmadu like the other Nigerian politicians is selfish, corrupt and visionless. He may not be guilty but this ordeal might be his purgatory to review his life in his lonely cell and evaluate what contributions he has made to better other people's lives as a politician. I am sure he will find little positive contribution. The first thing that will hit him is that if the University Teaching Hospitals were upgraded with VVIP section installed and doctors paid as good as legislators, he wouldn't be in this mess.

It takes nothing to do the right thing. And doing this pleases God more attending empty religious activities.

Unfortunately, other politicians won't learn
from this.

@bolded: If he's not guilty of this crime, nothing you've said so far would justify him and his wife going to jail for taking a legal means to save thier daughter's life. Even if you're not there yet, you'd likely be a father some day and you'll understand. I'd never advocate for someone to go to jail for a crime they didn't commit, not even an enemy. There are other ways fate could deal with him if he's such a bad person.

FullBlastLight:
Those ones ain't too young 2 be taken 2 lab or tech workshop 2 research & learn somtin better dt can benefit both them & d society in d nearest future!

Or, isn't dt what d advanced countries are doing wit their kids?

And b4 d Whites bring their kids out 2 wear pyjamas 4 fun, they hv done enough lab & tech works, and thus want d kids 2 catch fun & relax their brains a little!


But, here in our clime, is d reverse of d abv not d case? Huh?

At a tender age, u wil see those kids in sane climes carrying out laboratory experiments, mixing chemicals & all, whereas in our own clime, u may not start doing all dt stuff until u grow beards or breasts!

See below 4 urself nah:

Lol... really, bro? With all due respect, I think you're cool and sincere person but with little exposure. Sir, every single thing you're seeing in that picture is a toy. I live in the so called advanced country myself and I can tell you that for sure. Nursery school children don't do tech or science research anywhere. That is not the objective of education at that phase. In fact, the school would be sanctioned if they let children of that age anywhere near a lab. No parents would subject thier children to that cause would be taking thier childhood away from them. Children discover the world by playing, that's how nature has made it.

Many nursery schools in Nigeria have such toys that aim to build the kids' interest in arts and sciences. Like I said earlier, the whole idea is to get then interested in any way morally possible. Incorporating fun into the learning process and making toy versions of some of these lab items and art tools are some of the ways to achieve that.

Does that title make any sense to you?

pafra:
I need my kids to learn coding.
Where can they learn?
Is there schools secondary that do coding?
Is it better learning online?

Some private Schools have QBASIC as a topic in Computer Studies. They probably wouldn't teach it well cause the teachers may not even be developers. And regardless of how well they teach it, your kid might still need extra classes, especially if there's no relative at home who knows programming. In that case, I'd suggest you enroll them in programming classes where they'd get one-on-one attention (they're many software development firms that conduct such training). If your kid is still in junior secondary and you can't find classes specifically designed for children, then it's much better to wait till they're in thier senior secondary (SS1 maybe) when they'll find it fun on thier own. A kid younger than that might not feel comfortable in the absence other kids, and they may develop hatred for programming if you push them.

FullBlastLight:
Then they shld hv at least carried their beds & mattresses along 4 adequate fun & proper preparation 4 d future!

There's nothing abt pyjamas they oughtta know dt common sense won't thoroughly furnish them wit in due time!

What an overt exhibition of misisplaced priority!


In all, let everyone try stay #OBIdient by all means if we truly wanna see d emergence of a #NewNigeria2023!

Misplaced priority? So what is the priority? Advanced Physics? And who told you nursery schools don't have beds and mattresses? I think people against this idea are those who didn't have the opportunity to attend primal nursery schools and that is why comfort looks strange to y'all. They're laying the foundation here and there's nothing like "in due time" because kids form thier perspective of school at an early stage. It reduces the stress of trying to do that later. Anything to make the journey smoother for your baby is acceptable, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with a baby putting in a PJ anywhere. They change thier clothes in school on a normal day, so don't project adult reasoning to babies. Like I said, you don't any idea what nursery education is about.

It could be hard for a programmer who learned as an adult to teach kids, but I learned as a kid, so here is my take.

The goal is get the kids interested and give them basic problem solving skills. I would recommend GWBASIC or QBASIC consol programming. I learned programming when I was 13/14 and I used QBASIC. I remember using codes to solve mathematical problems I already knew the formulas. E.g. area of a two dimensional shapes and volume of three dimensional forms. Because, I was already familiar with these formulas, I was able to concentrate on coding them which made it fun. QBASIC is English-like ans very simple. The plain black IDE and bold prints makes less techy and a suitable playground.

With time, I was able to add conditions so the same code can solve multiple problems based on the user's inputs. When I decided to move on to GUI, my BASIC skills were helpful cause I started with Visual Basic 8.0 which later became VB.Net. VB.Net also helped me move on to C# (.Net). C# belongs to the C family of languages, so it was easy for me to learn other similar languages like Java and PHP afterwards. I didn't learn Python till years later. I still hate Javascript and only use it when I have to.

Today, I don't use these languages often (asides C#) but the problem solving skills remain applicable to the languages and tools I use at the moment.

Cc: Newusername

Sojicool:
I eat some yesterday and am still alive
Oyinbo no know wetin them they talk

greenmonk:
Their problem is that they like eating things raw.
Imagine waiter asking me if I want my beef raw, half cooked or well cooked?
I just reply am say half burnt. Say I be naija man.

Guys, they're not saying it kills people. They're saying it's invasive and that's true. It multiplies rapidly ans when left uncontrolled, that could a disaster.

shegun4sur:
Pyjamas is not to be worn out of the home. What kind of fun is this

That's exactly why they chose it; to make the school environment more homelike for the kids. These are nursery school kids. They can wear anything anywhere.

Read my detailed response:

etrange:
One of the major goals of nursery schools is to get the kids interested in what's ahead of them and schools are obliged to do this by any means morally acceptable. In this case, the idea is to make the school environment fun on that specific day. By asking the kids to put on PJ's which they only wear in the comfort of thier homes, they aim to to make the school more home-like and reduce the distinction between thier cozy homes and the the academic/formal school settings dreaded by some of them. Such things work like magic on kids that are afraid of school settings.

This is just for a day and it's not even uncommon. What is the fuss about? Will the kid be exposed or embarrassed? Do normal school uniforms cover them more than PJ's? If the final goal is achieved, based on what exactly are you criticizing the approach? Just give me one logical reason. Because it is called PJ? Or because it's done in Nigeria? Please, y'all should relax.

Ogamysamo:
i also don't know how it should be rightly use but in literal sense it would be
comment etait ton jour

but even in saying it like that self it don't seems to make sense.

...wait let me ask etrange, am sure he'll help

etrange pls how should one say how was your day in french?

We say "comment etait ta journee ?"

"Jour" refers to day as a unit of time or a particular day of week.

Example:
1) Un jour = 24 heures
2) Ce jour-la
3) Quel jour ?
4) Le jour de mon anniversaire

"Journee" refers to day as a duration or a period. The emphasis is on a particular length of time and/or the activities that took place within the period.

Example:
1) Il faut sortir pendant la journee (I/you/we/they/etc should go out during the day)
2) C'etait une journee stressante (it was a stressful day)
3) Comment etait ta journee ? (how was your day?)

In the examples above, the word "journee" is referring to the period of time when there's daylight and people go about thier businesses.


These rules also apply to an vs annee, soir vs soiree, and matin vs matinee

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FullBlastLight:
Ogar, 4get story & lengthy dissertation, there's nothing reasonable in wearing nightgown or pyjamas 2 sch!

You don't know a thing about the psychology of nursery education. One of the major goals of nursery schools is to get the kids interested in what's ahead of them and schools are obliged to do this by any means morally acceptable. In this case, the idea is to make the school environment fun on that specific day. By asking the kids to put on PJ's which they only wear in the comfort of thier homes, they aim to to make the school more home-like and reduce the distinction between thier cozy homes and the the academic/formal school settings dreaded by some of them. Such things work like magic on kids that are afraid of school settings.

This is just for a day and it's not even uncommon. What is the fuss about? Will the kid be exposed or embarrassed? Do normal school uniforms cover them more than PJ's? If the final goal is achieved, based on what exactly are you criticizing the approach? Just give me one logical reason. Because it is called PJ? Or because it's done in Nigeria? Please, y'all should relax.

grandstar:
I went to a very liberal secondary school. We could wear any type of shoe we wanted and have almost any type of haircut.

As much as I support a relaxation of rules, we have to be mindful of abuse. Females may decide to wear some very flirty nightgowns which can lead to unwanted consequences.

We even had an out-of-uniform day.

This is even a nursery school and it was just a day set aside for fun. I really don't see the issue.

kkins25:
I've entertained black Americans who do the same. They tell me America is bad, racism every where, hatred, gun shots, nd i shouldn't bother coming...

All I did was ask how is America?

Of course, everyone has grudges against thier government. The problem is when you believe that everything from your country is inferior to others, even non man-made things like lizards. Even that your American friend is not likely to tell you thier stuff are inferior especially when they clearly aren't. They only complain because they should be better off and that's valid. It's totally different from the case I pointed out up there. A couple of days ago, a thread appeared on the front page where the OP was trashtalking Nigerian lizards insisting Caribbean lizards are better. Lizards! Lmao.

We may not have everything but we have a rich culture. Our food and lifestyle aren't necessarily inferior. This idea of having a fun day in school would be praised by this same OP if the school was in Sweden or Scotland (just like they praised the Chinese school yesterday). But since it's a Nigerian school, it should be criticized. For such people, it's not really about the concept in question but about the belief that if it's Nigerian, it ain't good enough. That is what I'm talking about.

1Sharon:
He lied about his age!

He was a fraudster.

Oh wow!

emorse:
Inferiority complex at work here bro. To many Nigerians, anything Nigerian is bad.

Sad. Self hatred has eaten deep into the citizens. I don't stay in the country, but I've heard some Nigerians who recently moved to where I am telling people of other nationalities how the country is the worst place in the world. Even when a foreigner tries to appreciate anything Nigerian, Nigerians would quickly remind them that those things aren't worth the appreciation. And guess what, many of these so-called foreigners are from Caribbean countries.