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martinsadnan11:
ALIENS EXISTS,AND THEY ARE DEMONS,SATAN CREATED THEM,THEY'VE BEEN SHOWING THEMSELVES TO THE ILLUMINATI CULT,(i'm a kid,but my knowledge surpasses what some of you guys know,not because someone told me,but i'm a witness to the devices of the devil),...THAT IS THE TRUTH THE U.S GOVERNMENT IS KEEPING FROM YOU.
NOTE:aliens will come,yes they will they will still show themselve physically but those who know they truth knows...when that happens,you guys should prepare for the mark of the beast.

Interesting.
Till today,I never knew satan now creates extra terrestrial creatures for the sole purpose of revealing them to us?.

orisa37:
Yes. Jesus taught this and much more in the Sermon on the Mount.

Please,attach the book,chapter and verses of the bible where jesus taught that.

2kaybiel:
is there any proof from NASA that alien exist? i only see aliens in movies. As per salvation, if you can teach them your language because u wil need to blend them to the system of the earth, then you can preach salvation to them if and only if alien exist at all.

You do not understand,if jesus came to earth to die for humanity and aliens were to be discovered,how then will the aliens be saved,or does that mean that the aliens would be eternally condemned?
This is just a scenario; the whole idea of religion is based on the premise that only humans exist in the universe and that is seeming harder to believe the more we understand how vast the universe is and the billions of planets and stars that litters space.

iamSi:
We have our dues to pay whatever is due to the goverment but there is a sure boundary. What belongs to ceaser pay back to ceaser . Plus in case you dont know it is wrong speaking or abusing those in power .

Treason ? I guess that word is just too powerful to be used in here . Maybe you should review the meaning Sir.
Politics is a religion on its own , dont tell me you dont know this yet. Dont shade this part sir, Devil rules the world so why be part of such rulership.

Mind you, I pay my taxes and dues , cos I am paying for services rendered . That does not mean am part of it.

You do not pay tax or appeal to an institution for judgement like paul did if you do not believe in the authenticity of the authority.How can you accept and pay for a service rendered if you are not part of the system?.
Yes,politics is a religion but it is not a separate kind of religion,rather it is what we do even in our religion.Try reviewing the meaning of religion if in doubt.

luvmijeje:
You are confused. If every continent is autonomous then it's no longer a central government.

Think of how Nigeria is run,the states have autonomy yet the federal government is central and supreme.

hopefulLandlord:
you'll be surprised how hermeneutics would be pulled on certain bible verses and people would claim certain words in those bible verses actually meant "Alien" all along and they didn't know until Aliens came

Amusing,but true.

2kaybiel:
i dnt tink so, religious people believe that there is a supreme being that created all things including aliens.

in ur own opinion u think the God the religious people pray to are the aliens?

if dat was wat prompted your question i wil say NO.

On the contrary,I'm a christian.Just curious what other people think of the OP.
How do we address the matter of salvation for the aliens?,what about the fact that the bible never mentioned aliens?

petra1:
It will only intensify the belief in God. Actually a time will come that there will be a general belief and possibly frequent encounter with beings who will be seen as alien on our planet. Because Satan need such situation to mobilize army for the Great War coming between good and evil . I will like to have you know that those beings are demons. Already they have started interacting with some scientists and claim that God is a rival being from another planet also. And give impression that God put men on this planet as laboratory animals .

Interesting.
There is only one thing capable of consuming the human mind so thoroughly,and that is religion.
I'm intrigued by your submission.

youngG10:
do ye think

Yes,I think it would.

iamSi:
Did you mean World Power ? Well, Jesus said " I am not part of the world, neither do my goverment . So its either you stick to hos goverment or worlds government . Devil rules the world , christian must havr no part in world politics

Yet Jesus paid tax,and paul appealed to caesar; doesnt that strike you as interesting?.
Jesus was speaking of himself,not in anyway encouraging treason or being apolitical.

Cc: Seun,OAM4J

I'm curious,do you think that if humanity were to discover the presence of (an)other life form(s) in the universe,it would mark the end of religion in its current forms?.

I do wonder too....when I read that all the host of heaven worship him 24/7,I was like,why does he want all that worship?,what is the point?

MrPRevailer:
The One World Government is the time when stubborn/wicked/pleasure sinners will gladly receive the MARK OF THE BEAST to their doom.

Christian believers have been watching for this for thousands of years and preaching it. We have endured being mocked as Conspiracy theorists for centuries. Now that it is coming to pass, the chameleon has changed its colour. If you go further in your unbelief (millions/billions will) you will regret in forever. And that is immediately after the 7 years One World Government.

Attach biblical proof please.

orisa37:
Because Jesus is The Ways, The Truths and The Life. World Governments are Confusions.

Did jesus teach this?

Wilgrea7:
i think the Islamic one-world govt is one whereby everyone must accept Islam or die... i stand to be corrected

Interpretation of the hadith is quite very shady,but from what I have read in islamic books; towards the end of the world,a charismatic muslim leader will rise(in the east,and from the lineage of Mohammed),unite all muslims and convert the unbelievers ,he will rule the world with justice,fairness and divine law.This leader is called the Mahdi,apparently,he will come at the same time with Jesus christ,and the latter will assist him in waging war against the Masih ad-Dajjah(false prophet).
In the hadith,Muhammad al-Baqir says that the Mahdi will dig out the holy books from Antioch,and he will judge those who believe in the torah or psalms or gospels or quran according to their respective books.
So,I think its similar to the prophesies about christ's first coming; it may not play out as people are translating it.

Shoot.

Amberon:
Your earlier comments derride Christians and Christianity which was why I made that statement.
If you're a christian like you said you would've known the christian view about a one world government and why most Christians are against it. It is there in the bible.

Also the disadvantages of a one world government out weigh the merits.

Where in the bible please?,be so kind as to give me the book,chapter and verse.

luvmijeje:
Okayy! You've also given a lot of reasons why it's untenable so why are you singling out Christians.



In other words the white man should rule over you.

I'm singling out christians because we are the ones who demonize the idea; muslim sects already have the believe of a global caliphate,an islamic world government that will be headed by the caliph.
The whites will not "rule over you"; it would be a world federation where every continent has autonomy.

Wilgrea7:
yeah... but then... it depends on the type of leadership also... will all power be given to just one person or not? things like that determine the possible outcome

I think I'll go with the political system postulated by Karl Krause; the world will be governed by five continents(Africa,Americas,Europe,Asia and Australia,each having a regional superpower) under a "Republic of the world",with a common supranational parliament and an international constitution.
A sort of world democracy.This way,no man or nation will have absolute power.

luvmijeje:
Idea? Who, when and where was the idea formulated?

Francisco de vitoria,the great poet Dante,the greek philosopher Polybius,Friedrich Nietzsche,Kark Krause who proposed the concept of the world being governed by five continents under a "Republic of the world" and even recently George Bush who reiterated the idea of a New World Order.
All these people were(and are still) criticized and demonized by christian movements.

Wilgrea7:
OP.... a one world government is not bad in itself... it all depends on the kind of people in leadership positions... look at Nigeria for example... our problem is not the govt but the leaders... that's the reason why we are messed up... even the Christians wailing against a one-world government still shine their 32 when they reach the part of revelations where Jesus defeats the Antichrist and RULES on earth.. cuz that means Jesus will be the highest authority with his 144,000 jewish saints or so... that's basically the same thing as a one world govt..... so a one-world govt isn't bad... it all depends on who the leaders are

This is more objective; I think the problem most people have with the OWG is this dogma that no human or group of humams is fit to rule the world,according to them,only Jesus and the devil have the necessary credentials to be world leaders.
Yes,the issue will be leadership.But it could be done to an extent,it wouldnt last though.

luvmijeje:
I'm obviously missing something. What was the world government someone wants to form and Christians rose against it?

You will just be wailing for no reason.

If you had read the OP,you did have seen where I said "the idea of a one world government".It is public fact that many christians view a global government as anti-christ.

Amberon:
You obviously are not asking to know but to make mockery of Christianity like you are already doing. Of what benefit will a one would government be? Does it even make any sense?

Why would I deliberately make a mockery of my own religion?
I simply want to know why most christians are against the idea,since I have never seen any anti-world government reference in the bible.
As for the benefit of a World government,if you read the OP,you will see about 4 listed there.

SirWere:
Apparently; it's one of the signs precluding Doomsday.



Same way Gay rights, Liberal Popes, Multiculturalism, Natural disaster; any new disease be it Ebola or Zika; and an increase in irreligion predicts "End time".


I need not talk on how senseless that is....

True....its almost comical the way many christians predict that every new US president or Catholic pope is the anti-christ.
The way things are,many people will resist sensible policies and developments simply because of their irrational dogma.

iamSi:
you have read to much books I did not get anything out of your post. can you simplify ?

Why do many christians oppose the idea of a One World Government?

Meeloreh:
End time aff come niyen! And after rapture, it wee enable the antichrist to rule

Is this biblical?
Historically,we have seen empires like the Persian,Roman and French(Napoleon Bonarpate) empires ruling a huge swarthe of the world,sprawled over three continents.We have had Genghis Khan who ruled over a unified Mongo-Chinese empire.We have had the great axum empire that spanned the whole east and south africa; they didnt bring about the "end time",why then do you believe a modern global republic will signify the world's end?

Cc: Seun,OAM4J

While I will admit that the idea of a central (one) world government is quite unfeasible owing to the sheer diversity of the world populace and political expansionism by superpowers; still,assuming that the world can be governed in a loose confederacy of continental powers under a "Republic of the Whole World",then it would go a long way to foster relative peace,stability and economic development in the world as wealth will be redistributed from the rich nations to the poor nations and resources will be available for all people.
Militaries will be downscaled and the world would have a unified currency zone.
Why then are many christians reflexively against the idea of a global government?
Note; I'm a christian.

What "success" are they talking about?
Is this not the same man that said he doesnt really know where Nigeria's power problem lies?
I think the man still has a huge task ahead of him and he hasnt even approached a fraction of it.

Was it made by the NA or proforce?
If it is the NA,then they should sell the patent to a local company(proforce) or partner with proforce to commercialize it.
We need to start looking for markets for our hardware outside our shores,otherwise,production will grind to a halt.

War and conquest has always been used to spread religion since man began organised religion; the hebrews slaughtered million to claim palestine in the name of God,the babylonians,persians,and romans conquered territories in the name of their gods,and the ancient christians and muslims did the same too.
There is no need to deny that the crusaders were christians,we all know that they were indeed christian legions sanctioned by the pope himself; religion is like fire,you can use it to light the way or to burn your rival's farmland.