₦airaland Forum

This man is joking right?

Asuokaa:
Lol...seriously I love my country..we don't brag but wen troubles show up NA will deliver...if Nigeria military can just show us the weapons dey have we will be calm...the secrecy is too much...

Secrecy of the NA can be understood to an extent
I think our military learnt much from the days of the junta when we were placed under heavy arm embargoes and categorically "convinced" not to send in substantial military aid to support SA apartheid struggle,simply because the west knew about every single bullet in our armoury,and they were able to manipulate using that knowledge.
And then during the Obasanjo regime,when france had the nerve to "urge" us to cede bakassi peninnsular to cameroon and adhere to Gowon's bogus pact....France knew too much about our military capabilities and would have delivered dangerous intelligence compilations to cameroon,while arming them up to counter all our combat systems.
So i understand our secrecy,it even makes us look more mysterious! ; D ; D

Asuokaa:
Evrine one knws der levels...u don't mess with people dat have tasted death more than twice...I was jokingly telling some one Nigerians don't fear God but put one soldier somewhere dey will behave...I rmbr d presidential election d sunday after election soldiers were evri where come and see those "AGBERO" begging bus to pay their money..not shouting "O WO MI DA"...evri ne acting like a good human being when dey see soldiers...

heheh...i even saw some guys on TV doing frog jump on the highway for breaking election procedures,while stern looking soldiers monitored the scene with barely concealed amusement,barking out frightful orders at intervals.
Asari knows not to toy with the wrath of the combined military might of the FRN.

Asuokaa:
Seriously they can't do nothing...asari was locked up in jail in obasanjo regime...they r toothless...asari who knws his fada...

heheh....Asari Dokubo is just flexing non-existent muscles,he is far too drunk with amnesty allowances and huge government contracts to start a revolt he knows he will lose.
What Asari fears is that Buhari will cancel MEND amnesty programme,that is why no major attack have been launched yet,until Buhari assumes office.
Moreover,the NN is the strongest and most sophisticated arm of the Nigerian armed forces,and Asari knows that,any tomfoolery will be met with a merciless response.

MikeCZAR:
Training > Experience.
Why would soldiers freeze with NCOs around?

Obviously,because they do not have experience,even with NCOs coordinating the charge it would still be difficult for newbies to absorb the psychological impacts of being on the battle field.That is why the initial stages of war are always the hardest part,once the troops begins gaining momentum,experience and a little bloodlust: viola!,you then have an army ready to fight till the end.
What happens if even the captain of a strike team is also going to battle for the first time?

MikeCZAR:
Training > Experience.
What is the role of NCOs in the field?

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NCOs are on the field to advise officers and also assist in commanding/training troops,NCOs are primary middle-authority that harmonizes the commanding officers with the field soldiers.
What does that have to do with experience?,I strongly believe that experience beats training fair and square.

MikeCZAR:
You can have intelligent officers with degrees from every military academy in the world get beaten by rebels.
Training>experience.

Training and experience walk hand in hand,but on a scale of preference,experience beats training.
There are heavily trained field soldiers who freeze when they see battle.Battle simulations are quite different from real life combat,on the practice ground,the biggest fatality you can sustain is a nose bleed,broken bone,wounded pride and serious tongue lashing from your disgruntled superior.but is real combat,failure means death.That is why many soldiers,even though they've got training,tend to loose nerve in the middle of real action.Trainers can only teach the troops and hope for the best.
But experience is a rare attribute needed for a formidable armed force.Even without preliminary training,once you've got the experience,you've got the training needed.

andrewza:
Let's keep it as Botswana.

Before they move they will need to recon the area. Small teams will probe and scout out the terrain and enemy. So now when Botswana opens fire they know that in that general area is a SA milltary camp. There are no bases in the area. So in a suprise attack the target would be camps. These are not big and not built to be defended against a attack.


Another method is the use of a observer. The most destructive system in use by the military is the radio. Useing BH against Nigeria. A lone man could set up in a concealed postion and direct the mortar fire.

If your mortar can see the enemy then you doing something wrong.

moffie,that isnt the scenario with boko haram.BH is a terrorist group not a coventional army,you keep mixing it up because SA doesnt have COIN/CT training and experience.

MikeCZAR:
That's just one of the things intelligence officers do.

You are now shamelessly shifting the goalpost,who was talking about 'intelligence' officers?,what i typed was 'intelligent officers',if you cant tell the difference between "intelligent" and "intelligence",then i'm thoroughly sorry for you.

MikeCZAR:
Yes.
Insurgents typically use radios during attacks to report and coordinate. Your officer won't hear that if his doing basic infantry stuff.

Lol..And you think that intercepting a radio communication is done behind comfy desks and fluffy leather upholseries?

MikeCZAR:
Yes, inside a vehicle or office monitoring action from radio to movement.

eish wena...man you are either ignorant or typing under the influence of alcohol.

andrewza:
The entire point of a mortar is to fire on targets you can not see.

Enemies you cant see,but that you can locate.If you can neither see nor locate,then you end up wasting time,effort and ammunition.
let me break it down: an invading army from botswana marches in force against south africa,on getting to southern botswana,they stop and prepare to launch a mortar bombardment into south africa from the border town of Gaborone,they are targeting a weapon nest belonging to the SANDF,but they can neither see nor do they know where the ammo storage facility is located,they simply know that the SANDF has an armoury in the North West area.
What do you think would happen if they start launching mortars into SA?,the heavy mortars could land in Mmabatho or Rutenburg or Mamelodi or Pretoria or Klerksdorp or Soweto os Tsakane or Johannesburg or even potchefstroom!,but at the end of the day,the targetted armoury would be safe and sound.

MikeCZAR:
I expect an intelligence officers to be sitting in his vehicle or office monitoring enemy activity.
Yes, you don't know what a FOB is.
The guys just stacked the ammo there.

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"sitting in his vehicle or office monitoring enemy activity"?
You are a shameless man mike "ebola" czar,what kind of silly statement is that?.how can a soldier monitor enemy activities from inside an office?
I just confirmed that you know nothing about the military,you just want to impress your grandchildren by having a username on the internet.
According to our troops,when BH attacks,our men immediately roll into the trenches and return fire.can that be done from inside an office?.
Our troops are being trained,"firstly as field soldiers",not as bankers in uniform.

MikeCZAR:
Your "intelligent" officers stay in trenches when they're supposed to monitoring things.
They're not in transit they're in a FOB(forward operating base), your men just piled them up.

Our soldiers stay in trenches at night because of constant BH assaults that do take place in the night,according to the video,attacks are usually launched by BH from the school building opposite the base,a few kilometres away.you expect them to start strutting around like conceited peacocks?
your condescending attitude amuses me alot,even though you know that you are doing it to your superior,did i tell you that i dont know what FOB mean?.

MikeCZAR:
The fact that your enemy can fire and hit your ammo should be a worrying.
You don't have an ammo nest or bunker whatsoever you just pile them up and sleep next to them.

As i have said many times now,those crates of ammo were most probably in transit,if a lazy glutton like you can decipher that stacking ammo outdoors is dangerous,then our extremely intelligent and professional army officers already figured it out ages ago.

MikeCZAR:
Mortars are indirectly weapons you don't need too see the target, just have to know where it is.

People can stand behind that school and start throwing bombs.

And how would BH know where our ammo nest is?,they could fire from now till june,only for their mortars to end up all landing into konduga's craftily dug pit latrines.

andrewza:
Even if it is on the front line. A place no experienced gunner wants to be it still means a mortar team could sneak close enough. They only need one lucky hit to causes a massive explosion.

a mortar team cannot bombard a target they cant see,to blow up konduga's weapon storage,a lot of accuracy and precision would be needed.fortunately,if you cant see or locate,then you cant hit.

andrewza:
The airport yes, that was a major transit hub but the second base was not a transit hub but the only base that did it right where the guys in the abondon school. They had one room for ammo so you can there For keep accommodation away from that area.

Any FOB can serve as transit or reserve,currently konduga is peaceful,but troops fighting in the Goma,Kumshe and Gana axis could request for reinforcement and supplies at any time,the only two FOBs capable of providing immediate substatial support are Konduga and Bama.
So it isnt far fetched to conclude that Konduga is a major transit zone for troops and weapons.

andrewza:
Close enough that the Nigerian arty could fire 9km and hit hostile targets.

indeed,but not directly from the centre of the FOB.

andrewza:
It not a storerage room. They either in the open or in a normal building.
Ever thought BH where more focused on the front.

I didnt say that it is a storage room,i said "store".Like i said earlier,those crates were probably in transit to another FOB,or being repatriated back to the barrack.

andrewza:
Never say never. And you do know how far 10km is right.

you do know how large konduga is right?

andrewza:
Still needs to be secured safely.

the store is withing a FOB that withstood 13 assaults{8 of which involved tanks and attilery from the enemy side},how safer can it be?

andrewza:
It takes one lucky shot. Just one.

BH fighters can never even get within 10km radius of the store,talk less of scoring a lucky shot.

andrewza:
I mean a fire As in a normal fire.
Even if it is being moved it should be stored away. It is a freaking base not a tinny camp some where.

Those crates were most probably in transit.

MikeCZAR:
The Lieutenant said BH fighters crawl and get really close to the trenches to launch their attacks and the base has been attacked more than 8 times.
What are you talking about?

Pray that God should cleanse you of every orubebe spirit tormenting your brain.Did i ever imply that konduga has never being attacked?,Infact,kondua is the most assaulted FOB in the whole north eastern theatre of war.where did you get your misguided impression from?.
lol,boko haram "crawl" and get really close to the trenches to launch attacks?,surely you were either sleeping or drunk while watching the video.
Do you think that battles are usually fought in front of the storage centre?.lol,BH incursions are usually intercepted 8-15km away from the town itself and then consequently repelled! PS: The FOB has been attacked 13 times,not 8 times.

MikeCZAR:
Did you watch the video with your ears closed?
The positions were attacked several times.

A surprise mortar attack, in less than 5 minutes insurgents can throw more than 4 bombs to a position and run.
They've been for a while.

And how many times have mortar hit the ammo storage facility?=zero times,what does that tell you?.
konduga FOB have been attacked 13 times now,and never has a mortar ever hit the storage.

andrewza:
You do know what a mortar is right? Because it don't care about terrain and they have a range of 2km for the small ones and above 10km for the big ones.

You do know how big konduga FOB is right?,the chance of launching a mortar into the ammo storage is extremely low,even if it is a range of 10km{which is a scarce commodity for boko haram},moreover,terrain matters a lot,konduga FOB is on an elevated plain,as you can see in the video.

andrewza:
Then those bunkers where not on the from line.
If you have decacted ammo storage area then use it.

Those ammunitions may be on transit,or newly delivered,therefore their is need for proper identification,sorting,and documentation before storage.

andrewza:
One fire and the base goes boom. There is reason Ammo is kept in a magazine or bunker or any where but in the open and laying around a accomdastion area. Safety.

I would understand random gear by people's trommels or lockers hell on there bunks even. But stacks of ammo. What would happen if a mortar hit the area with all that ammo.

As i said,there is low risk of accidental detonation because the storage facility is simply too distant to the outer perimeter where their is risk of mortar or attilery being fired.
Considering that ammunitions are regularly being moved,it would make sense for ammo to be stacked outside,especially if those ammunitions were recently delivered or are in transit to another frontline base.