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FxMasterz:
I've told you the stand of your Quran. I don't have to quote it. I told you what you already know. If it's a lie, deny it!

Are good works not the prerequisites for entering the Islamic paradise? Yes or No? Whatever your answer is, did you get the view from the Bible? I'll call knowledgeable Christians on the matter of the Quran to help me out if you keep dribbling.

You tell me arbitrarily without an exact verse of the Quran? How? Or is it this link for hadith you share (https://backtojannah.com/ways-to-enter-jannah/)?

Be truthful.

FxMasterz:
I have asked you to deny that good works qualify people for paradise according to Islamic teachings.

The stand of the Bible and its prophets is in the opposite. Prove me wrong regarding Islam.

You are getting rather diversive. You stated that Muhammad pbuh contradicts what others say and I have asked you to explain how and here you are reversing the question back to me. Your listing 25 sayings of hadith are not convincing enough that they came through Muhammad.

Tell me the stand of the Quran. Your not being muslim doesn't prevent you from knowing.

MaxInDHouse:
That is what all religionists always say!

So are you saying Judaists, Hindus, Buddhists, Traditionalists, Catholics, Protestants, Muslims and all others claiming they know Almighty God know what God requires yet they're all contradicting themselves?

I can and will only speak for myself. You cannot simply rely on another to lead you to God. God will stir up this in you hopefully you make the effort for this to be done yourself. I have passed through a point where I sought to research to know God but simply asked God to reveal himself due to uncertainty that the concept of God was man made to control and exploit.

TenQ:
Your problem is that you can't truly define what a spirit is.
Before I ask you the questions again, I let me give you a crash course of things with respect to both Jews and Christians.

The Bible states clearly that God Himself is a Spirit!
John 4:24:
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

A Spirit is the essence of God visible in the non material world. The Spirit is that which gives life unending to whoever God imputes it. Thus when God breathe into man of His spirit, does man became a soul that exists forever. This is the image of God.
Prov 20:27:
"The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly."

Gen 1:27:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

God made His Angels spirits.
Ps 104:4:
"Who (God) makes his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:"

In a layman language:
1. A Human Being is composed of a Trinity of a Body, a Soul and a Spirit (They live eternally)
2. Angels are composed of a Duality of a Soul and a Spirit. (They live eternally)
3. Demons are composed of a Duality of a Soul and a Spirit (They live eternally)
4. Animals are composed of a Duality of a Body and a Soul (They live temporarily)

The Body:
The Body is the Physical component of who you are. It was given by God to interact with the physical realm.
The Soul:
The Soul is the Emotional, Intellectual and Decision part of a Being. The soul is the Personal identity of a person.
The Spirit:
The Spirit is the Spiritual component of who you are. you It was given by God to interact with the spiritual realm. The Spirit of man gives him the attribute of a Conscience and Faith and Spiritual Awareness.

No one is equating any being to God: this is impossible. God through His spirit gives man and angels some of his attributes.


You can see how these makes logical sense to both Jews and Christians.





NOW:
Let me ask you a few questions (I hope you wouldn't dodge responding to it)
1. In Islam, what is a Spirit (Ruh)?
2. In that light, how is Jubril a spirit?
3. Are other Angels spirits?
4. In Islam, what does it mean that man was created in the image of God
5. Is islam, I what is the difference between a Soul (Nafs) and a Spirit (Ruh)


Don't avoid answering each of these questions!

The overtly learned Tenq that knows it all. What course can you give me? Does your Bible deceive you to know all about God yet your Jesus messiah reports of things he knows not except the father. Father referring to almighty God.

Part of what is known of the spirit of Allah is that the spirit of Allah is an essential aspect of the Islamic faith. It provides believers with guidance, enlightenment, and strength to navigate the challenges of life.The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil. It is through this divine spirit that believers establish a personal and profound connection with Allah and strive towards leading a life of righteousness.

“And thus We have revealed to you a spirit of Our command. You did not know what the Book was nor faith, but We made it a light, guiding thereby whom We please of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path" (Q42:52).

The spirit of Allah is not confined to an entity . It is believed that Allah's spirit is present within every individual, providing them with the capacity to seek divine knowledge, comprehend righteousness, and distinguish between right and wrong.

The spirit of God is both divine and mysterious, and possesses unique qualities that differentiate it from other creations.It is a reflection of His power and will, capable of bestowing life, guidance, and inspiration upon humans. It is depicted as an ethereal force that can intervene in worldly affairs, imparting wisdom and performing miracles.

It permeates the universe, enabling God to be aware of all things. Surah Al-Mujadila (58:7) affirms this by stating, "And God is with them [people] wherever they may be." This highlights the Quranic belief that the spirit of God is not bound by physical limitations but rather omnipresent and directly connected to creation.

Your Biblical definition has the spirit or holy spirit as part of a three or one in three like some extreme type of mathematics.

When considering John 4:24, it is crucial to appreciate the broader context of the verse and its implications. The notion of God as a spirit speaks to the spiritual realm rather than implying a corporeal existence. Spirituality encompasses the essence of God—a metaphysical presence that cannot be confined within human parameters. Identifying God as spirit underscores the infinite nature and transcendence associated with divinity.

What is God searching for like it's hidden and he is unaware of everything?

Genesis 1:27 may be understood metaphorically, highlighting that humans possess certain qualities that set them apart from the rest of creation. Unlike other creatures, humans have the ability to reason, make choices, and possess moral consciousness. This unique capacity allows individuals to contemplate and understand their relationship with God and the world, serves as a basis for ethical decision-making, and enables them to strive for personal growth and transformation. This verse should not be misunderstood to mean mankind looks like God. Far above comparison is God to anything. Perhaps as your Biblical God adopted a human form this is the likeness you refer to. For above such comparison is Allah whom nothing is like or comparable to.

Humans possess qualities that reflect the divine, whether that be spiritual characteristics or the unique capabilities that set them apart from other creatures. These however are but a tiny reflection of the divine.

Then you try to justify your trinity by attempting to describe in relation to man? Really unfortunate though as many argue that spirit and soul are synonymous and refer to the same aspect of human existence. Or you say the soul is the essence of an individual, comprising their emotions, thoughts, and consciousness. It is the part of a person that experiences and learns from the physical world, leading to personal growth and self-awareness while spirit represents the deeper, more transcendent aspect of human existence. It is often associated with the divine or higher power and is believed to hold infinite wisdom, truth, and connection to a world beyond the physical. Can you seriously separate spirit from soul this way? Jesus in your Bible refers to soul of man but not spirit. Does this not show there aren't these two in man as distinct or the same?

Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Why no mention of spirit?

MaxInDHouse:
There are so many deities all claiming they are God Almighty with contradicting requirements so that mankind is confused regarding what the Almighty God require for real.
So how can we all come to a reasonable agreement on what the Almighty requires from mankind i believe this will help us to know who is the true God!

The truth is clearly distinct from falsehood. Once you sincerely seek the almighty he himself will guide you.

FxMasterz:
You should have denied it.

Which one is the last prophet of Islam? Are you kidding me?

Here's a link to some 25 good works a Muslim must do to enter paradise. The list is not exhaustive. Numerous sections of your holy books were quoted.

https://backtojannah.com/ways-to-enter-jannah/

Interesting response. You made a statement and I ask to understand you properly? Where does a denial come from?

I asked for preferrably Quran and you direct me to a whole 25 hadith reference. Not impressive.
I ask for Quran as this has less infusion of other people's understanding even if the arabic is translated.

How do these things negate what other prophets said before?

FxMasterz:
Am I a Muslim?

Tell me that my assertion about your reliance on good works is a lie.

But you made a statement with certainty about the last prophet of Islam. How then do you know what you say or is it something you assume?

MaxInDHouse:
Both mean the same to me because the will of someone is what the person is working to achieve.

So what is the will of the Almighty?

To be obeyed and praised by all he created

FxMasterz:
How do you expect to get to paradise as a Muslim? What do you think would qualify you? Is it not good works?

You made the statement below and I ask you of the exact reference. Why can't you present it? Mind you I don't understand what you mean by contradicting.

FxMasterz:
Meanwhile, Mohammed who claims to prophecy in line with previous prophets, brought a contradictory message of self righteousness.

FxMasterz:
Mohammed told you that you can please God by weighing more good works than evil works, isn't it?

All the Biblical prophets whom he claims to be in line with, have a rather opposing message.

You quoted from Ezekiel and I showed you how those scriptures contradict Mohammed.

FxMasterz:
Mohammed told you that you can please God by weighing more good works than evil works, isn't it?

All the Biblical prophets whom he claims to be in line with, have a rather opposing message.

You quoted from Ezekiel and I showed you how those scriptures contradict Mohammed.

By weighing? Could you share this saying attributed to Muhammad and preferrably from the Quran

Did Allah or God not breath his spirit into Adam? Is it all his spirit that was put into Adam?
Do you not exist by having some spirit comprising you? This spirit is from where?

It seems you are having trouble differentiating how everything that exist is from the almighty as there was nothing but him until he created.

All authority belongs to the almighty yet you exhibit authority over some things. Does this make you equal to God or God. Does whatever authority you seem to possess not come under the supreme authority?

The attribute seen in Jibril is not equal to this same attribute of Allah. Can Jibril do anything that Allah doesn't command done by him?

TenQ:
I have asked you basic and simple question to which you neither produced a logical or theological explanations


Is this untrue
1. If Jubril is an Angel, he is a Creation of Allah
2. If Jibril is a creation of Allah, he CANNOT be an attribute of Allah.

The Questions
1. So, In Islam, if Jibril is a spirit are other Angels also spirits?

2. I asked you a question : How is Adam created in the image or form or picture of Allah as we know that Allah was not made from mud? (Is Allah 60 cubits tall?)




So, is a spirit eg. Jubril an attribute of Allah?
And is ANY of the attribute of Allah created?

You can't answer because you prophet doesn't know what the Spirit is!

Your response is summarised with
Why bother asking questions on issues to which when you are responded you can only fault? Indeed it's not buy pompous ignorant mischief you play at

This is a serious Escapist way of responding to valid Questions. Give me a Logical or Theological Answers with respect to Islam.

The Religion of the Jews and the Religion of the Christians have answers to these questions: ask me and I will tell you clearly and unequivocally BUT before then, tell me the answers to the simple questions.

Remember too Jibril r.a is likely amongst the angels that bowed before Adam

MaxInDHouse:
What is the WORKS of the Almighty?

Perharps my statement is unclear. Doing works according to the will of the almighty.

Tell me though what you understand by the former.

FxMasterz:
Meanwhile, Mohammed who claims to prophecy in line with previous prophets, brought a contradictory message of self righteousness.

Could you elaborate? I don't understand you.

FxMasterz:
The Almighty does His works through us. Our personal works are unacceptable. They don't measure up to His standard.

A person’s own folly leads to their ruin, yet their heart rages against the LORD.

Stop deceiving yourselves. If you think you are wise by this world’s standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise.

Philippians 2:13
For it is God who is working in you, enabling you both to desire and to work out His good purpose

Lamentations 3:37–40 (NCV)
37 Nobody can speak and have it happen unless the Lord commands it.
38 Both bad and good things come by the command of the Most High God.

TenQ:
Muslims with internal inconsistent loads of contradictions.

It is impossible to answer my questions without defining what a spirit is. This is a simple exercise by both Jews and Christians.

It doesn't dawn on you that
1. If Jubril is an Angel, he is a Creation of Allah
2. If Jibril is a creation of Allah, he CANNOT be an attribute of Allah.

Your problem is with how you want questions answered to suit a fixed format. You don't conduct an investigative experiment with a known result.
Jibril is a creation of Allah as you are too.
God talks to his creation in different ways according to his majesty. Don't you talk and cimmunicate to other beings. Is this not you exhibiting an attribute similar to that of God?God spoke directly to Moses or didn't he?

2. This discussion is old and I may not remember specifically however if you are an architect and draw up a plan which you later transform into a building is it not your plan or design that you have built?

You go to hadith that resonates with what you have in your Bible?

You should consider this Hadith in a way befitting Allah without comparison or likening Allah’s Attributes to those of His Creation or denial of Allah’s Attributes. It does not necessarily mean that his Image (may He be Glorified) is like the image of human beings.

Allah says he created man in the best of forms,
then reduced him to the lowest of the low,except those who believe and do righteous deeds; for them is a reward without end.

Do you not reflect on the status of man in paradise before he came down to earth? Do you not reason the high status of man before when all his needs were available to him? In comparison to his struggle on earth before a later return to the high position in the afterlife?

TenQ:
1. If Jubril is an Angel, he is a Creation of Allah
2. If Jibril is a creation of Allah, he CANNOT be an attribute of Allah.


1. So, In Islam, if Jibril is a spirit are other Angels also spirits?
Heb 1:7:
"And of the angels he (God) said, Who makes his angels spirits , and his ministers a flame of fire."
2. I asked you a question : How is Adam created in the image or form or picture of Allah as we know that Allah was not made from mud? (Is Allah 60 cubits tall?)

With the little I have said surely it falls far below what Muhammad salallahu alaihi wa salam says and who qualifies you as a judge?

TenQ:
If Mohammed couldn't say what Ruh is, what makes you think you can say anything other than vagues about it?

Why bother asking questions on issues to which when you are responded you can only fault? Indeed it's not buy pompous ignorant mischief you play at.

I was just emphasizing that you will still do the works of the almighty.

FxMasterz:
'For by Grace are we saved through faith. Not of works, lest anyone should boast.'

Explore2xmore:
Ezekiel 11
19 I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh.
20 Then they will follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. They will be my people, and I will be their God.

Ezekiel 36
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

FxMasterz:
You don't seem to understand the scriptures you are quoting. Man cannot by himself submit to the will of God. He is rebellious by nature. So, God works on Him through regeneration, an act of spiritual rebirth (Ezekiel 11:19) which in Christian terms is the Born Again experience. The result of this is followed by what is described in verse 20: "Then they will follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.[/b] They will be my people, and I will be their God." Ezekiel 36 which you quoted says the same things. You see, God has to put His Spirit in you to empower you in your bid to submit to God's will.

Essentially when your will is submitted to the almighty by following the directives of his prophet Jesus it will be easy to follow the almighty's will.
Ezekiel 11
19 I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh.
20 Then they will follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. They will be my people, and I will be their God.

Ezekiel 36
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

This Fxmasterz is what Islam is about. Total submission to the will of Allah.

FxMasterz:
This implies that as long as I obey and follow the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the law of sin and death has no power or authority over me. To follow the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus is to be led by the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God would not lead you into anything that is against the will of God. Therefore, you cannot be condemned by the law of sin and death. Verse 14 of that same scripture says "As many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." A son of God therefore is someone who follows the leading of the Spirit of God, Not necessarily someone who goes to church, has a Christian name or preaches a sermon on church altars. When we become born again, the Spirit of God comes to dwell in us for this very purpose.

Only sharing and not debating.


The name Jubril, also known as Gabriel, is a highly revered figure in Islamic tradition. As one of the primary archangels, Jubril holds a significant role in delivering divine messages from Allah to prophets such as Muhammad. However, it is essential to recognize that Jubril, although influential, does not encompass the entirety of the spirit of Allah. Islam teaches that Allah's wisdom and presence are vast and immeasurable, far beyond any single entity or embodiment.

To understand the spirit of Allah, we must first comprehend the concept of Tawhid, the fundamental belief in the oneness of Allah. Tawhid teaches that Allah is indivisible and does not have any partners or associates. Allah's essence cannot be contained or reduced to a single entity, including Jubril. Islamic teachings remind us that Allah is omnipotent, omnipresent, and transcendent, surpassing any human comprehension.

While Jubril is known for delivering revelations to prophets, he is only an intermediary for Allah's divine messages. The Quran makes it clear that Allah is the sole source of guidance and knowledge. In Surah An-Nahl (16:2), it states, "He sends down the angels with the inspiration by His command upon whom He wills of His servants." This verse emphasizes Allah's authority and underscores the subordinate role of the angels, including Jubril.

Additionally, the Quran highlights the fact that there are numerous angels in Allah's creation, all serving different purposes. Some angels are responsible for recording our deeds, while others are protectors or helpers. This diverse array of angels indicates that each angel has a specific function and cannot embody the entirety of Allah's spirit. Allah's power and presence extend beyond any single angelic figure.

Moreover, the Islamic tradition recognizes that Allah's spirit encompasses all creation. Allah's attributes, such as mercy, wisdom, and justice, are reflected in various aspects of existence. The Quran states, "It is He who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He knows what penetrates into the earth and what emerges from it and what descends from the heaven and what ascends therein; and He is with you wherever you are. And Allah, of what you do, is Seeing." (57:4). This verse suggests that Allah's presence permeates the entire universe and is not limited to a specific angel or entity. Do not interprete Allah being with you to merely physically being with you but understand Allah is all encompassing of his creation which all came from him.

Therefore, while Jubril plays an instrumental role in delivering divine messages, it is essential to remember that his role is just a fragment of Allah's vast wisdom and presence. Islam urges its followers to establish a direct connection with Allah by seeking His guidance and adhering to His teachings in the Quran. This direct connection allows individuals to tap into the spirit of Allah themselves and strengthen their relationship with the divine.

Jubril, as a respected archangel, is not comprehensive enough to embody the entirety of the spirit of Allah. Islamic teachings emphasize the oneness of Allah and His immeasurability, transcending any individual or entity. While Jubril serves as an intermediary for Allah's divine messages, it is our individual responsibility as Muslims to cultivate a personal connection with Allah and seek His guidance directly. By recognizing the vastness of Allah's spirit, we can deepen our understanding of Islam and strengthen our faith.

Allah's spirit is not limited to a single angel or being, but rather encompasses the divine essence that is spread throughout the universe. The spirit of Allah is all-encompassing and can be felt and experienced in numerous ways, whether through the beauty of nature, the compassion in people's hearts, or the serenity found in prayer. It is not confined to the interactions of angels alone, but rather a force that permeates all aspects of creation.

TenQ:
That is the point :
1. You don't realise that if Jibril is the Holy spirit, then Jubril is a spirit!
2. It doesn't dawn on you that if Jubril is a spirit and is an angel, then all angels are spirits!
3. It doesn't dawn on you that All spirits are living beings.


Of course, Mohammed was asked about the spirit: unfortunately, he didn't know the answer (a whole prophet of Allah didn't know and he didn't ask the Christians as prescribed by Allah)


Why didn't Mohammed say that Jubril is a spirit? He would have been closer to the answer.
He says : the spirit is from the command of his Lord!

What does this mean?
It's not even an answer to the question!


This was the reason Mohammed couldn't answer the simple question:
1. What about the Spirit?
Shouldn't he have answered that the Spirit is Jubril?
2. Unfortunately, Muslims CANNOT even say what a spirit is: can you?


Every Jew and Christian with a below average knowledge will tell you that
1. God Himself is a Spirit called the Holy Spirit
2. Angels of God are all spirits
3. Every human being is a Trinity of a Body, a Soul and a Spirit!
4. Of course you don't know that spirits cannot die because they are made as spirits in the image of God



If I ask you this question, you can't answer because just like Mohammed, you have no knowledge.


1. How is Adam created in the image or form or picture of Allah as we know that Allah was not made from mud?
2. Is Allah 60 cubits tall?



To help you:

Sahih Muslim 2841
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day.



Sahih al-Bukhari 6227
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah created Adam in His picture, sixty cubits (about 30 meters) in height. When He created him, He said (to him), "Go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring." Adam (went and) said, 'As-Salamu alaikum (Peace be upon you).' They replied, 'AsSalamu-'Alaika wa Rahmatullah (Peace and Allah's Mercy be on you) So they increased 'Wa Rahmatullah' The Prophet (ﷺ) added 'So whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the shape and picture of Adam Since then the creation of Adam's (offspring) (i.e. stature of human beings is being diminished continuously) to the present time."


Please respond especially to the question highlighted in yellow

Certainly he only lays false claims and cannot prove by the Quran.
Take your troubles elsewhere.

TenQ:
Since their are suitable words for Dowry, why didn't your Allah choose any of them

Since there are other suitable words Allah could have used such as the terms:
a. "جيهة" (jaheh) typically refers to the bridal gift or dowry in the context of marriage.
b. "شبهة" (shubhah) means "dowry" or "bridal gift" similar to "مهر" (mahr).
c. "عريش" ('arish) can also mean "dowry" or "bridal gift" in the context of marriage, and it is used regionally
d. مهر (Mahr) dowry



Prostitution is a Sin according to the Law of the God of Moses!


Why did Both your Prophet and his Allah allow TEMPORARY Marriage?

Show where Jesus says to bring the man directly.

TenQ:
And Jesus didn't say bring the man also and stone them both to death according to the Law of Moses!?

Did the Law of Moses say if one party escapes, I the other should be pardoned?

SMH!

Bring forth verses that talk on dowry from the Quran. Let's check against the words you bring.

TenQ:
Since their are suitable words for Dowry, why didn't your Allah choose any of them

Since there are other suitable words Allah could have used such as the terms:
a. "جيهة" (jaheh) typically refers to the bridal gift or dowry in the context of marriage.
b. "شبهة" (shubhah) means "dowry" or "bridal gift" similar to "مهر" (mahr).
c. "عريش" ('arish) can also mean "dowry" or "bridal gift" in the context of marriage, and it is used regionally
d. مهر (Mahr) dowry



Prostitution is a Sin according to the Law of the God of Moses!


Why did Both your Prophet and his Allah allow TEMPORARY Marriage?

Which of the verses? Besides aren't some of these verses visions or dreams which may not be exact however Moses physically made a staff and the Israelites were physically stung with serpents.

Does any Quran verse say what you type in red or someone like you that adds his own meaning.

TenQ:
So you know that the verse on the seraphim is clear! SMH!

NOW
Are you saying that this is UNTRUE about Mohammed!?

He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment,

Show these your synonyms in Quran verses.

TenQ:
1. Who then gave Mohammed the messanger of Allah the permission to do Mutah? Was it Allah or himself?

2. As long as Muslim scholars agree that Qur'an 4:24 is about Mutah (Prostitution), you have no case.

3. Since there are other suitable words Allah could have used such as the terms:
a. "جيهة" (jaheh) typically refers to the bridal gift or dowry in the context of marriage.
b. "شبهة" (shubhah) means "dowry" or "bridal gift" similar to "مهر" (mahr).
c. "عريش" ('arish) can also mean "dowry" or "bridal gift" in the context of marriage, and it is used regionally
d. مهر (Mahr) dowry

All synonym of bridal due or dowry but Allah used أُجُورَهُنَّ wages.

Wages for what service?

Are these hadiths Maudu or Daif?

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 :
Narrated by 'Abdullah
We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us: 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)


Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”


Please in Islam, can what kind of Marriage is made with Temporary Contract?

This kind of marriage is called Mutah (Allah's Halal type of Prostitution)


I have shown you that أُجُورَهُنَّ is the wages paid to prostitutes in context to Qur'an 4:24 according to Allah much later abrogated by Mohammed for a reason best known to him.

How can you be sure this is not another satanic verse?

As you expect people to take your faulty reasoning without thinking.

If the woman committed adultery, where is the man she committed adultery with?

Humans are not to eat because it is a Sabbath?

So the law is do as I say not as I do.
No wonder Moses according to your Bible prayed for pardon for his brother yet had 3000 killed.

If your thinking is this shallow please say less so people don't verify the state of your reasoning.

TenQ:
Once you comprehend this verse below, you will understand what Jesus was saying:


John 8:3-8:
"And the scribes and Pharisees brought to him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the middle, They say to him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what say you? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said to them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground."
John 8:10-11: "When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said to her, Woman, where are those your accusers? has no man condemned you? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said to her, Neither do I condemn you: go, and sin no more."

Or

Mat 12:2-8:
"But when the Pharisees saw it, they said to him, Behold, your disciples do that which is not lawful to do on the sabbath day. But he said to them, Have you not read what David did, when he was an hungered, and they that were with him; How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the show bread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests? Or have you not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? But I say to you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. But if you had known what this means, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, you would not have condemned the guiltless. For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day."


If you understand the above, I then you will understand why:


Jesus said:
I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

So that

John 3:36:
"He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God stays on him."

1Jn 5:12:
"He that has the Son has life; and he that has not the Son of God has not life."

Also

Romans 10:4
"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes."

Galatians 3:24-25
"So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian."

This is why Christ Jesus is the FULFILMENT of the Law of Moses that must be kept 100%


Too bad if you don't understand the above!

The verses are very clear yet you go to unpreserved books that contradict themselves. Same way you sit logic on it's head with fulfilling the law.

TenQ:
Did you read:
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/8314.htm

[שָׂרָף] noun masculineIsaiah 6:2 plural שְׂרָפִים seraphim.....
— in OT. majestic beings with six wings, and human hands and voices, attendant upon ׳י Isaiah 6:2,6.





Tell me, if who gave Mohammed the law of Temporary Marriage: Himself or Allah?

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 :
Narrated by 'Abdullah
We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us: 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)


Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”

You can see how Allah made Mutah Prostitution LAWFUL for you Muslims!

TenQ:
According to the Law of war in Israel (For the Jews) at the time of the Law of Moses, I have no problem with it as it was in the time of "An Eye for an Eye"!

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Contradictory confusion.
[Matthew 5:17-20]
17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

TenQ:
According to the Law of war in Israel (For the Jews) at the time of the Law of Moses, I have no problem with it as it was in the time of "An Eye for an Eye"!


But it doesn't change the fact that Allah encourages Muslim men to do halal prostitution as long as the money is paid according to agreement.

And it does change the fact that
I have shown you that أُجُورَهُنَّ is the wages paid to prostitutes in context to Qur'an 4:24 according to Allah much later abrogated by Mohammed for a reason best known to him.

How can you be sure this is not another satanic verse?

Is the translation of Saraph here wrong?
https://biblehub.com/text/numbers/21-8.htm
שָׂרָ֔ף
śā-rāp̄, a fiery serpent.

Yes or no and proof of the latter if so.

Quran 4.
22. Do not marry women whom your fathers married, except what is already past. That is improper, indecent, and a bad custom.

23. Forbidden for you are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your paternal aunts, your maternal aunts, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your foster-mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your stepdaughters in your guardianship—born of wives you have gone into—but if you have not gone into them, there is no blame on you. And the wives of your genetic sons, and marrying two sisters simultaneously. Except what is past. God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

24. And all married women, except those you rightfully possess. This is God’s decree, binding upon you. Permitted for you are those that lie outside these limits, provided you seek them in legal marriage, with gifts from your property, seeking wedlock, not prostitution. If you wish to enjoy them, then give them their dowry—a legal obligation. You commit no error by agreeing to any change to the dowry. God is All-Knowing, Most Wise.

25. If any of you lack the means to marry free believing women, he may marry one of the believing maids under your control. God is well aware of your faith. You are from one another. Marry them with the permission of their guardians, and give them their recompense fairly—to be protected—neither committing adultery, nor taking secret lovers. When they are married, if they commit adultery, their punishment shall be half that of free women. That is for those among you who fear falling into decadence. But to practice self-restraint is better for you. God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.

All of Quran 4:22 - 25 is talking about marriage and never mentions temporary marriage.


You show أُجُورَهُنَّ stated in the Quran but cannot or is it refuse to show مهر stated in the Quran. Only refer to this when you can show it in the Quran.

Have you addressed Deuteronomy 21:
10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives,
11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife.
12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails
13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.
14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.

TenQ:
And it does change the fact that
I have shown you that أُجُورَهُنَّ is the wages paid to prostitutes in context to Qur'an 4:24 according to Allah much later abrogated by Mohammed for a reason best known to him.

How can you be sure this is not another satanic verse?

This your timid acceptance of Seraphim being flying serpants.

TenQ:
And I said, No problem!
As long as the serpents Have wings and
They have hands and
They even have feet!

Same lame argument. Specifically you say أُجُورَهُنَّ is used instead of مهر yet cannot show where مهر is used. Obviously that is why you failed to respond on the original thread.

TenQ:
Quran 4:24 (Surah An-Nisa):
"And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise."


I am sure you know the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر.

Did Mohammed ever allow Mutah?
Yes or No!

I repeat show me مهر in the Quran verses or accept the error in your argument.

TenQ:
I gave you the opportunity to define the term أُجُورَهُنَّ

You refused and I showed you the meaning.

I have shown you that أُجُورَهُنَّ is the wages paid to prostitutes in context to Qur'an 4:24 according to Allah much later abrogated by Mohammed for a reason best known to him.

How can you be sure this is not another satanic verse?

TenQ:
No problem as long as the serpents have

Have wings and
They have hands and
They even have feet!

Your Bible definitely talks of flying sepants.

1 Neh 17: 41 And he did straiten them in the wilderness with his rod; for they ahardened their hearts, even as ye have; and the Lord straitened them because of their iniquity. He sent fiery flying serpents among them; and after they were bitten he prepared a way that they might be healed; and the labor which they had to perform was to look; and because of the simpleness of the way, or the easiness of it, there were many who perished.