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TenQ:
The poor man convinced the rich man to climb the walls quietly with him so that he can report the rich nan to King David!?

Just look at how the illogicality sounds!

How did this happen?

Because you are fixated on a physical fence and do not know how come a chamber is private.

Private to David and restricted from many. Thank you Mr Expert of Philosophy and Logic

You see. A check is a question and you are bothered to say if it's going well or not and go on to question if you were reported to me.

Bringing in unasked questions?

Clearly you refuse to see two different Miriams born centuries appart? How many centuries apart are David and Jesus according to your bible? Yet Matthew 1:1 The record of the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Is Jesus literally the immediate Son of David or David an immediate son of Abraham?

CrystalBliss:
And how does the business you spoke about disprove my sincerity. Did someone report me to you?

You reason from your penis. The tribes of Israel are related and that makes Mariam the sister of Aaron the mother of Jesus? Is something wrong with you?

Mohammed picked those names from the Bible and yet was so confused that he didn't know the difference between the two people because of the similarities in their names! Yeye dey smell.

CrystalBliss:
How does the 2021 business concern you in 2023? Face the matter in focus or are you afraid?

There's nothing in the statement of the Quran regarding Mary and Mariam that depicts fits into the lies you're telling. Please tell another lie. The Quran explicitly calls Mary the mother of Jesus the sister of Aaron. Mary was from Judah. Maryam was from Levi. There are more pious women in Israel's history. Enjoy the deception while it lasts.

There's nothing in the statement of the Quran regarding Mary and Mariam that depicts fits into the lies you're telling. Please tell another lie. The Quran explicitly calls Mary the mother of Jesus the sister of Aaron. Mary was from Judah. Maryam was from Levi. There are more pious women in Israel's history. Enjoy the deception while it lasts.The same way you talk outside the subject of the post.

Majority of what I posted are from the Bible assuming you claim to believe it or which book has Exodus?

Of course you reason from your ass and do not know the tribes of Israel are all related.

Do yourself a favour and do other useful things.

Anyway the business I asked of directly concerns you and not what you derive from someone else or read. It's a check on your sincerity.

@CrystalBliss

Did the Quran refer to Miriam the Sister of Aaron or your old testament/Judaic books?

What did they really say of her?

Miriam's quick wit as a young girl helped change the course of Israel's history by protecting its greatest spiritual leader; Moses, even if she later became envious.
Miriam served as a prophet of God, speaking his word as he instructed. She also was a unifying force among the cantankerous Hebrew people.
Miriam was first of many musical women in the Bible. Did she lead other Israelite women to sing: Sing to the Lord, for he has triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider he has thrown into the sea." (Exodus 15:21).

This Miriam is not Miriam who bore Jesus. Know this and choose to have or not have peace.

Have a fulfilled life!

P.S How's your cashtrains bizness?
Wonder why you reserve this against religious people? Does it conflict with religious beliefs?


















While these two Miriams are separated by hundreds of years in biblical history, they share commonalities that are worth noting. Both women showed great faith and strength in the face of adversity, and both were chosen by God for special roles in the history of His people. Miriam the prophetess and Miriam the mother of Jesus are both seen as powerful and inspiring figures for believers, offering lessons in faith, perseverance, and devotion to God.

SIRTee15:
How did u know that the 2 litigants were angels. Did the Koran mentioned or hadith mentioned them as angels.
The Koran said the two men scaled the fence. I dont think angels should be jumping over the fence to see someone. If they have the power to disappear, then they should have the power to appear not jump the fence as written in Koran.

When you limit your definition of a fence you fail to understand. David had an inner chamber he withdrew to for deep worship. Here he was isolated from external disturbance while worshipping God.

Has there come to you the story of the litigants when they made an entry into the private chamber (of David) by climbing over the walls? They entered on David, and he was frightened of them” (Qur’an, 38:21).

Wall/Fence/Barrier?

True to type. You rather try to cause confusion rather than addressing one issue at a time.

Is Mariam from the Tribe of Judah? How are the tribe of Judah related to Aaron?

Must it be that Mary the mother of Jesus is literally the sister of Aaron? Why cannot this be in reference to her status as pious person?

How many people bore the name Jesus when the Nazarene Jesus was alive?

O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste.

Surah Maryam 19:28

The Christians at the time of the Prophet objected to this verse on the grounds that it was meant literally, but the Prophet answered their question.

Mughira ibn Shu’ba reported: When I came to Najran, the Christian monks asked me, “You recite the verse: O sister of Aaron (19:28), whereas Moses was born long before Jesus by such-and-such years.” When I came back to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, I asked him about it and he said:

Verily, they would name people with the names of prophets and righteous people who had gone before them.

Source: Sahih Muslim 2135, Grade: Sahih

I try not to refer to hadith as much as possible as these do not always have the best chain of naration and agreement in truth with the Quran or reality of affairs.

CrystalBliss:
You forgot to ask him how Mariam the sister of Aaron suddenly became the mother of Jesus.

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Even the Biblical Jesus says only the almighty God is good.

Both of them jointly said?

23. “This brother of mine has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe, and he said, ‘Entrust it to me,’ and he pressured me with words.”

(SINCERELY ANSWER)

So because David was bestowed with Wisdom it means he has all wisdom and is infallible?

You fail to understand as you switch your intellect off to see the lesson being thought on how to do justice where there is a dispute more so on an issue you have no fore knowledge of.

Are you akin to who Fela refers to as Zombie or Mr Follow follow?

How can I know the degree of correctness in David's judgement when the other persons story is not narrated before a judgement was passed. Some exegesis state these were even angels that disappeared and David realised his error and realized what he was being taught. True to his nature he sort forgiveness regretting his hasty and impatient reaction without hearing the other side.

You are in a fantasy or ai world that imagines an immediate delivery or some mystical ability to know the unseen?

When there is a dispute between two people and your input for justice is sought by them together would you have them jointly present their case or listen to one and then the other?
Please be real and sincere!

SIRTee15:
So are u saying David err in his judgement. Didn't Allah endow him the gift of decisive judgement.
Is this not a contradiction.

Anyway, unless u bring your Scholastic source. Above is your own bias opinion and desperate attempt to justify the Koran against the bible.

Alas you feign blindness at things evidently clear:

"[David] said, "He has certainly wronged you in demanding your ewe [in addition] to his ewes. And indeed, many associates oppress one another, except for those who believe and do righteous deeds - and few are they." [b]And David became certain that We had tried him, and he asked forgiveness of his Lord and fell down bowing [in prostration] [/b]and turned in repentance [to Allah]."
(QS. Saad 38: Verse 24)


And has the news of the litigants reached you? When they climbed over the wall into (his) Mihrab (a praying place or a private room). When they entered in upon David, he was terrified of them, they said: Fear not! (We are) two litigants, one of whom has wronged the other; therefore judge between us with truth, and treat us not with injustice, and guide us to the Right Way.

““Verily, this is my brother (in religion) has ninety nine ewes, while I have only one ewe, and he says: ‘Hand it over to me,’ and he overpowered me in speech.”David said immediately without listening to the opponent: “He has wronged you in demanding your ewe in addition to his ewes. And, verily, many partners oppress one another, except those who believe and do righteous good deeds, and they are few.”And David guessed that We have tried him and he sought Forgiveness of his Lord, and he fell down prostrate and turned to Allah in repentance. So We forgave him that, and verily, for him is a near access to Us, and as good place of final return Paradise.O David! Verily! We have placed you as a successor on earth, so judge you between men in truth and justice. And follow not your desire for it will mislead you from the Path of Allah.

https://muhammadsufian./2010/12/25/the-story-of-prophet-dawud-two-litigants-the-authentic-version/


"Verily, this is my brother (in religion) has ninety nine ewes, while I have only one ewe, and he says: 'Hand it over to me,' and he overpowered me in speech."

Dawud said immediately without listening to the opponent: "He has wronged you in demanding your ewe in addition to his ewes. And, verily, many partners oppress one another, except those who believe and do righteous good deeds, and they are few."

And Dawud guessed that We have tried him and he sought Forgiveness of his Lord, and he fell down prostrate and turned to Allah in repentance. So We forgave him that, and verily, for him is a near access to Us, and as good place of final return Paradise.

O Dawud! Verily! We have placed you as a successor on earth, so judge you between men in truth and justice. And follow not your desire for it will mislead you from the Path of Allah. Verily! Those who wander astray from the Path of Allah shall have a severe torment, because they forgot the Day of Reckoning. (38:21-26 Quran).

https://www.islamicboard.com/prophets-of-islam/1711-prophet-dawud-david.html

You believe in partial or impartial justice? Perhaps you can give fair justice without holistic consideration of issues.

Please you have an attribute you pretend to be incapable of using. Or do you draw faith in attributing detestable things to prophets of God as a means to encourage improper behaviour in faulty hope that you will be forgiven? Why will you deliberately do wrong in belief that you will be forgiven. Where lies your sincerity?

Biblical David’s alleged adulterous affair with Bathsheba states that after being threatened for his abhorrent actions (committing adultery with Bathsheba and having Uriah killed), David repented and was spared death. However, this directly contradicts the Mosaic Law which required the death penalty for adultery.

Perhaps even more egregious is the fact that, according to the story, David and Bathsheba were allowed to stay together! In fact, he even impregnated Bathsheba again, leading to the birth of Solomon!

Hence, both David and Bathsheba should have been stoned to death. The Bible does not even mention whether Bathsheba was also allowed to repent or not. Only David is mentioned. However, they were still punished, though not according to the Law. According to the story, God struck the child that was born from the adulterous relationship with a lethal illness, which claimed his life after seven days. This punishment contradicts a basic principle of justice laid out in Deuteronomy 24:16:

“Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.”

The same principle is laid out in the Book of Ezekiel 18:20

“The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.”

Clearly, David and Bathsheba both deserved death for their sins, not their son. From the perspective of the Mosaic Law, the entire incident was a miscarriage of justice.

Remember the biblical Jesus is yet to liberate jews from these laws and is yet to be born.

Prophets do not commit such sinful acts. We believe that these stories from the Old Testament regarding the prophets are partially embedded with fabrications and warped narrations to create a spicy/false stories.

A prophet of God would never commit adultery and be enslaved to his temptations to the point that he causes a woman’s husband to die in the battlefield so he could marry this woman who he lusts after. In Islam David is a pious, righteous king and prophet for his peoples just like how messengers and prophets of God are supposed to set examples for the people whom they were sent to.

There are other such stories in the Bible such as Lot and his daughters, Elisha and the kids mauled by bears, etc that is totally out of character.

Is (QS. Saad 38: Verse 23)
"Indeed this, my brother, has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe; so he said, 'Entrust her to me,' and he overpowered me in speech" the statement of one litigant or both of them?
What did the other litigant who wanted judgement say? Did he say anything?

Is this not the mistake David a.s committed in not hearing both sides of a dispute?
How is there fairness without reviewing the interests or it suits your goal to destroy the character of one God deemed close to him in making him a callous dictator?

David, without hearing from the other party, said: "He did you wrong by taking the sheep back, and many partners oppress one another, except for those who are believers.

You do not rely on the Bible to explain the Quran.

The story of David and the litigants, as presented in Tafsir Al-Hakam, is actually a biblical narrative from the Books of Samuel in the Old Testament, an Israliyat that Tenq, you and others wrongly rely on. This mistake represents a critical error in the tafsir, as it attributes a story from the Bible to the Quran, leading to a misinterpretation and a misunderstanding of the actual message of the Quranic verse.

As a result, this error may cause confusion and misrepresentation of the Quranic text, especially for those who rely on tafsir to understand the nuances and teachings of the Quran. It is essential for scholars and theologians to conduct thorough research and ensure the accuracy of their interpretations, as errors in tafsir can have significant implications for the understanding of the Quran and the teachings it imparts.

Question is did David have 99 wives before?
If David was so perfect in judgement how come his son Sulaiman peace of Allah be on his prophets present a better argument when 2 women lay claim to a baby?


The error in the Tafsir Al-Hakam of Quran 38:21 concerning the story of David and the litigants is a critical example of the potential pitfalls in scholarly interpretations of the Quran.

Did Temples for worship exist in Jerusalem before the coming of Muhammad?

Could the Muhammad pbuh praying with previous prophets have any essence?

MaxInDHouse:
You're the one who hasn't gotten the logic here!
We don't need an ancient Asian man if you say each person should use his or her own reasoning.

No one says you need him. Just as he didn't need you to get divine guidance.

You don't see the analogy? What reference did Abraham have besides his thoughts?

Do you not have the capacity to reason?

MaxInDHouse:
So if you want to talk about Abraham then you can't possibly be yourself because you're using the standard set by someone else: Abraham

MaxInDHouse:
Who is Abraham?

The one you refer to here.

MaxInDHouse:
Christianity wasn't created by any human the young Jewish carpenter from Nazareth started the movement to fulfil God's promise regarding the endtime.

This is what the God of Abraham said about the endtime:


May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
If your way of life is PERSONALLY yours then all holy books are not needed you should be the one determining everything without consulting some books called "holy" written by others!

Although books can provide valuable insights and perspectives on faith, they are merely tools that can assist in the exploration and development of one's beliefs.

Ultimately, the true essence of faith lies within the individual, and it is through the active engagement with the world, both within and beyond the covers of a book, that one can truly derive and nurture their faith.

Faith has long been considered a deeply personal and subjective experience that can be derived from various sources.

Is your faith derived from copying another's concept or through personal introspection? Did your forefather Abraham; assuming you have a shred of belief you descended from him, derive faith from reading pages or between covers of a book?

MaxInDHouse:
YES! We!
Instead of arguing blindly in support of choices there should be an indisputable identifying mark of true religion for us to connect all honest hearted and sincere people.
Do you know it?

Arguing? Who or what is arguing with you? Is your way of life not personally yours or are you a trail follower?

TenQ:
I am surprised that never once did you answer any of the questions below . The question is not whether a spirit is mysterious or not. I We know that it is mysterious and the source is God.

Again

Let me ask you a few questions (I hope you wouldn't dodge responding to it)
1. In Islam, what is a Spirit (Ruh)?
2. In that light, how is Jubril a spirit?
3. Are other Angels spirits?
4. In Islam, what does it mean that man was created in the image of God
5. Is islam, I what is the difference between a Soul (Nafs) and a Spirit (Ruh)


Don't avoid answering each of these questions!

What does this from my previous answer tell you?

The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil

And previously:
Allah's essence cannot be contained or reduced to a single entity, including Jubril

Jubril plays an instrumental role in delivering divine messages, it is essential to remember that his role is just a fragment of Allah's vast wisdom and presence

Allah's spirit is not limited to a single angel or being, but rather encompasses the divine essence that is spread throughout the universe. The spirit of Allah is all-encompassing and can be felt and experienced in numerous ways, whether through the beauty of nature, the compassion in people's hearts, or the serenity found in prayer

Did Allah or God not breath his spirit into Adam? Is it all his spirit that was put into Adam?

if you are an architect and draw up a plan which you later transform into a building is it not your plan or design that you have built?

MaxInDHouse:
You're just mimicking what all religionists often say to justify their choice of beliefs!

No dedicated religionist will tell you he or she is following others they will tell you they searched for God and he revealed himself to them.

My question still stands:

How can we IDENTIFY the true religion?

We?

FxMasterz:
I've told you the stand of your Quran. I don't have to quote it. I told you what you already know. If it's a lie, deny it!

Are good works not the prerequisites for entering the Islamic paradise? Yes or No? Whatever your answer is, did you get the view from the Bible? I'll call knowledgeable Christians on the matter of the Quran to help me out if you keep dribbling.

You tell me arbitrarily without an exact verse of the Quran? How? Or is it this link for hadith you share (https://backtojannah.com/ways-to-enter-jannah/)?

Be truthful.

FxMasterz:
I have asked you to deny that good works qualify people for paradise according to Islamic teachings.

The stand of the Bible and its prophets is in the opposite. Prove me wrong regarding Islam.

You are getting rather diversive. You stated that Muhammad pbuh contradicts what others say and I have asked you to explain how and here you are reversing the question back to me. Your listing 25 sayings of hadith are not convincing enough that they came through Muhammad.

Tell me the stand of the Quran. Your not being muslim doesn't prevent you from knowing.

MaxInDHouse:
That is what all religionists always say!

So are you saying Judaists, Hindus, Buddhists, Traditionalists, Catholics, Protestants, Muslims and all others claiming they know Almighty God know what God requires yet they're all contradicting themselves?

I can and will only speak for myself. You cannot simply rely on another to lead you to God. God will stir up this in you hopefully you make the effort for this to be done yourself. I have passed through a point where I sought to research to know God but simply asked God to reveal himself due to uncertainty that the concept of God was man made to control and exploit.

TenQ:
Your problem is that you can't truly define what a spirit is.
Before I ask you the questions again, I let me give you a crash course of things with respect to both Jews and Christians.

The Bible states clearly that God Himself is a Spirit!
John 4:24:
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

A Spirit is the essence of God visible in the non material world. The Spirit is that which gives life unending to whoever God imputes it. Thus when God breathe into man of His spirit, does man became a soul that exists forever. This is the image of God.
Prov 20:27:
"The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly."

Gen 1:27:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

God made His Angels spirits.
Ps 104:4:
"Who (God) makes his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:"

In a layman language:
1. A Human Being is composed of a Trinity of a Body, a Soul and a Spirit (They live eternally)
2. Angels are composed of a Duality of a Soul and a Spirit. (They live eternally)
3. Demons are composed of a Duality of a Soul and a Spirit (They live eternally)
4. Animals are composed of a Duality of a Body and a Soul (They live temporarily)

The Body:
The Body is the Physical component of who you are. It was given by God to interact with the physical realm.
The Soul:
The Soul is the Emotional, Intellectual and Decision part of a Being. The soul is the Personal identity of a person.
The Spirit:
The Spirit is the Spiritual component of who you are. you It was given by God to interact with the spiritual realm. The Spirit of man gives him the attribute of a Conscience and Faith and Spiritual Awareness.

No one is equating any being to God: this is impossible. God through His spirit gives man and angels some of his attributes.


You can see how these makes logical sense to both Jews and Christians.





NOW:
Let me ask you a few questions (I hope you wouldn't dodge responding to it)
1. In Islam, what is a Spirit (Ruh)?
2. In that light, how is Jubril a spirit?
3. Are other Angels spirits?
4. In Islam, what does it mean that man was created in the image of God
5. Is islam, I what is the difference between a Soul (Nafs) and a Spirit (Ruh)


Don't avoid answering each of these questions!

The overtly learned Tenq that knows it all. What course can you give me? Does your Bible deceive you to know all about God yet your Jesus messiah reports of things he knows not except the father. Father referring to almighty God.

Part of what is known of the spirit of Allah is that the spirit of Allah is an essential aspect of the Islamic faith. It provides believers with guidance, enlightenment, and strength to navigate the challenges of life.The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil. It is through this divine spirit that believers establish a personal and profound connection with Allah and strive towards leading a life of righteousness.

“And thus We have revealed to you a spirit of Our command. You did not know what the Book was nor faith, but We made it a light, guiding thereby whom We please of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path" (Q42:52).

The spirit of Allah is not confined to an entity . It is believed that Allah's spirit is present within every individual, providing them with the capacity to seek divine knowledge, comprehend righteousness, and distinguish between right and wrong.

The spirit of God is both divine and mysterious, and possesses unique qualities that differentiate it from other creations.It is a reflection of His power and will, capable of bestowing life, guidance, and inspiration upon humans. It is depicted as an ethereal force that can intervene in worldly affairs, imparting wisdom and performing miracles.

It permeates the universe, enabling God to be aware of all things. Surah Al-Mujadila (58:7) affirms this by stating, "And God is with them [people] wherever they may be." This highlights the Quranic belief that the spirit of God is not bound by physical limitations but rather omnipresent and directly connected to creation.

Your Biblical definition has the spirit or holy spirit as part of a three or one in three like some extreme type of mathematics.

When considering John 4:24, it is crucial to appreciate the broader context of the verse and its implications. The notion of God as a spirit speaks to the spiritual realm rather than implying a corporeal existence. Spirituality encompasses the essence of God—a metaphysical presence that cannot be confined within human parameters. Identifying God as spirit underscores the infinite nature and transcendence associated with divinity.

What is God searching for like it's hidden and he is unaware of everything?

Genesis 1:27 may be understood metaphorically, highlighting that humans possess certain qualities that set them apart from the rest of creation. Unlike other creatures, humans have the ability to reason, make choices, and possess moral consciousness. This unique capacity allows individuals to contemplate and understand their relationship with God and the world, serves as a basis for ethical decision-making, and enables them to strive for personal growth and transformation. This verse should not be misunderstood to mean mankind looks like God. Far above comparison is God to anything. Perhaps as your Biblical God adopted a human form this is the likeness you refer to. For above such comparison is Allah whom nothing is like or comparable to.

Humans possess qualities that reflect the divine, whether that be spiritual characteristics or the unique capabilities that set them apart from other creatures. These however are but a tiny reflection of the divine.

Then you try to justify your trinity by attempting to describe in relation to man? Really unfortunate though as many argue that spirit and soul are synonymous and refer to the same aspect of human existence. Or you say the soul is the essence of an individual, comprising their emotions, thoughts, and consciousness. It is the part of a person that experiences and learns from the physical world, leading to personal growth and self-awareness while spirit represents the deeper, more transcendent aspect of human existence. It is often associated with the divine or higher power and is believed to hold infinite wisdom, truth, and connection to a world beyond the physical. Can you seriously separate spirit from soul this way? Jesus in your Bible refers to soul of man but not spirit. Does this not show there aren't these two in man as distinct or the same?

Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Why no mention of spirit?

MaxInDHouse:
There are so many deities all claiming they are God Almighty with contradicting requirements so that mankind is confused regarding what the Almighty God require for real.
So how can we all come to a reasonable agreement on what the Almighty requires from mankind i believe this will help us to know who is the true God!

The truth is clearly distinct from falsehood. Once you sincerely seek the almighty he himself will guide you.

FxMasterz:
You should have denied it.

Which one is the last prophet of Islam? Are you kidding me?

Here's a link to some 25 good works a Muslim must do to enter paradise. The list is not exhaustive. Numerous sections of your holy books were quoted.

https://backtojannah.com/ways-to-enter-jannah/

Interesting response. You made a statement and I ask to understand you properly? Where does a denial come from?

I asked for preferrably Quran and you direct me to a whole 25 hadith reference. Not impressive.
I ask for Quran as this has less infusion of other people's understanding even if the arabic is translated.

How do these things negate what other prophets said before?

FxMasterz:
Am I a Muslim?

Tell me that my assertion about your reliance on good works is a lie.

But you made a statement with certainty about the last prophet of Islam. How then do you know what you say or is it something you assume?

MaxInDHouse:
Both mean the same to me because the will of someone is what the person is working to achieve.

So what is the will of the Almighty?

To be obeyed and praised by all he created

FxMasterz:
How do you expect to get to paradise as a Muslim? What do you think would qualify you? Is it not good works?

You made the statement below and I ask you of the exact reference. Why can't you present it? Mind you I don't understand what you mean by contradicting.

FxMasterz:
Meanwhile, Mohammed who claims to prophecy in line with previous prophets, brought a contradictory message of self righteousness.

FxMasterz:
Mohammed told you that you can please God by weighing more good works than evil works, isn't it?

All the Biblical prophets whom he claims to be in line with, have a rather opposing message.

You quoted from Ezekiel and I showed you how those scriptures contradict Mohammed.

FxMasterz:
Mohammed told you that you can please God by weighing more good works than evil works, isn't it?

All the Biblical prophets whom he claims to be in line with, have a rather opposing message.

You quoted from Ezekiel and I showed you how those scriptures contradict Mohammed.

By weighing? Could you share this saying attributed to Muhammad and preferrably from the Quran

Did Allah or God not breath his spirit into Adam? Is it all his spirit that was put into Adam?
Do you not exist by having some spirit comprising you? This spirit is from where?

It seems you are having trouble differentiating how everything that exist is from the almighty as there was nothing but him until he created.

All authority belongs to the almighty yet you exhibit authority over some things. Does this make you equal to God or God. Does whatever authority you seem to possess not come under the supreme authority?

The attribute seen in Jibril is not equal to this same attribute of Allah. Can Jibril do anything that Allah doesn't command done by him?

TenQ:
I have asked you basic and simple question to which you neither produced a logical or theological explanations


Is this untrue
1. If Jubril is an Angel, he is a Creation of Allah
2. If Jibril is a creation of Allah, he CANNOT be an attribute of Allah.

The Questions
1. So, In Islam, if Jibril is a spirit are other Angels also spirits?

2. I asked you a question : How is Adam created in the image or form or picture of Allah as we know that Allah was not made from mud? (Is Allah 60 cubits tall?)




So, is a spirit eg. Jubril an attribute of Allah?
And is ANY of the attribute of Allah created?

You can't answer because you prophet doesn't know what the Spirit is!

Your response is summarised with
Why bother asking questions on issues to which when you are responded you can only fault? Indeed it's not buy pompous ignorant mischief you play at

This is a serious Escapist way of responding to valid Questions. Give me a Logical or Theological Answers with respect to Islam.

The Religion of the Jews and the Religion of the Christians have answers to these questions: ask me and I will tell you clearly and unequivocally BUT before then, tell me the answers to the simple questions.

Remember too Jibril r.a is likely amongst the angels that bowed before Adam

MaxInDHouse:
What is the WORKS of the Almighty?

Perharps my statement is unclear. Doing works according to the will of the almighty.

Tell me though what you understand by the former.

FxMasterz:
Meanwhile, Mohammed who claims to prophecy in line with previous prophets, brought a contradictory message of self righteousness.

Could you elaborate? I don't understand you.