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Try a book by Macmillan Nigeria used in schools if you can, e.g History of Nigeria vol. 1 and 2.

Igbo: Ife - 'civilization', 'light'.

efisher:
This propaganda is the major reason why the US and the rest of the international community are dragging their feet in terms of interventions. A problem that clearly started within the Arab world and is being fuelled from within is now being blamed on US - NATO!

The Libyans are busy begging the world to come to their aid and even before the world makes a move, these folks have started creating conspiracy theories. Anything the US does or does not do they get bad-mouthed for it. When they try to help, they are accused of having a hidden agenda. When they allow the people solve their own problems, they get accused of supporting dictators!!!

All I can say is people will never be satisfied with the US and other members of the OECD irrespective of how honest or dishonest their actions are.

Good response.

I believe the first graduate would be from the north.

The first Nigerian graduate is probably from the North. . . .

Eko Ile:
I hope this is enough for your to cry and reflect on for now,

The Igbo are greedy and their taking up your land. Make way.

Eko Ile:
I was talking about fake Phensic and fake Panadol,

Hm, who cares about that one, lets talk about big guns and powder. Now that is what Biafrans are into.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875837#msg7875837 date=1299652644]^-- I'm good man. Munching on some beef jerky and drinking apple juice right now. That is all I need [/quote]Mmmmm, enjoy mehn.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875820#msg7875820 date=1299652222]Nah. Skimmed through the page before and after, didn't see nothin[/quote]Ah well, your loss. Do you for any reason (any) want some drugs?

[quote author=U de vex? link=topic=619687.msg7875780#msg7875780 date=1299651721]Abeg, I don't have time to argue about things little even kids know. Alele Williams is from Warri. Period.

So, Williams is a Yoruba name too?  
You're one hell of a funny guy, that really made me laugh![/quote]Yorubas hater.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875807#msg7875807 date=1299652043]What is there to be impressed about?[/quote]You'll get it, just keep looking.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875765#msg7875765 date=1299651523]Do you have the book I mentioned handy? Pages 138-140 or so pretty much deal with that. I don't have a scanner handy, though. . . so if you don't have a copy I cannot post it here.[/quote]Any, whatever [size=4pt]Britain/EuropeusedanddumpedNigeria,whatasurprise[/size].

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875776#msg7875776 date=1299651665]The reality is, you were slapped silly by Nigerians. Nigerians who purchased weapons from others? Sure. Not Nigerians gifted stuff by 3rd parties. Or by the Soviets with their Nigerian collaborators.[/quote]Chy, you added extra just for me. I appreciate it, anyway[b][size=15pt]BIAFRAN FLAG[/size][/b]

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[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875776#msg7875776 date=1299651665]Again, if it makes you feel better to think that it was a British/Soviet/Egyptian plot against the noble Biafrans, so be it. If the lie makes you feel better, who am I to begrudge you? [/quote]Oh, it feels so good knowing your not a toy, and neither were your ancestors, lets check the track record:

These moves were followed up with the gradual subjugation of various autonomous Igbo groups, starting with the Aguleri (1892), Akwete, Obiohia and Ohuhu (1896), Anioma/western Igbo (the Ekumeku, 1898-1910), the Aro (1901-1902), and Onitsha hinterland (areas within Ogrugu, Onitsha and Oguta in 1904). Others were the Ezza and Ahiara Mbaise (1905), Isuikwuato and Ishiagu (1907), the Udi-Okigwe area (1914), and the Ikwo (1918).

Readi

30 years.

[size=15pt]YOU'RE IMPRESSED.[/size]

seanet02:
Yeepa YORUBA don carry every award wey dey ground o. Ibo man start am he no feel stand am again. You don carry load wey big past your weight today.  Nigerian First PHd holder in Agriculture  is YORUBA again o.  Abeg check her name yourself o  http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/36046/1/When-the-first-Nigerian-female-PhD-holder-in-Agric-went-home/Page1.html

Faaaaahhhhhhh it feels horrible being Igbo. 

seanet02:
You mean Biafra alias AKA Nee cu.m Failure. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

hahahahahahaa, that was a funny Yoruba joke.

ChinenyeN:
I realize that, and that's why I'm wondering if it's only me that sees that those dates don't add up. According to the numbers, Eri settled in the 10th century, while Nri hegemony dates 9th century (before Eri), and. . . the first Eze Nri didn't surface until the 11th century (or according to a some historians, 13th century). Can't reconcile that, is all I'm saying. Someone somewhere's got their information mixed up.

The traditional date is the 10th century. From the Igbo Ukwu finding, Nri may go back as far as the 9th century. Their date might be too late or they are missing something like you said.

Eko Ile:
Fake drugs,

Please, if you're going to say it say it right. Biafrans control solid Cocaina and ammunition, it's the 21st century and Biafrans are in a different frame of mind, only that they don't get caught.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875665#msg7875665 date=1299649671]How many Egyptian pilots? How many shells provided (for free, I guess you are saying?) by Britain? Same for planes, ammunitiion from the Soviets (provided for free, I guess?)[/quote]"Shell and BP company were taking Biafran oil but paying the royalties to Nigeria to help it buy weapons and ammunition."

[url=http://books.google.com/books?id=g5NAZMBK5hsC&pg=PA214&dq=%22Shell+and+BP+company+were+taking+Biafran+oil+but+paying+the+royalties+to+Nigeria+to+help+it+buy+weapons+and+ammunition.%22&hl=en&ei=wBR3TffqM5G08QO8n_WfDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Shell%20and%20BP%20company%20were%20taking%20Biafran%20oil%20but%20paying%20the%20royalties%20to%20Nigeria%20to%20help%20it%20buy%20weapons%20and%20ammunition.%22&f=false]Link.[/url]

. . . . call it what you want.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875665#msg7875665 date=1299649671]Well, largely speaking Yoruba didn't have much involvement in the war. I've never really claimed otherwise. However, we did have this one general who conquered large swathes of your territory. . . his name is the Black Scorpion [/quote]Haha, "Black Scorpion", taking orders from his British masters to destroy Biafra. And there was a "Black Scorpion" there to destroy Benin. And there was a Black Scorpion there to round you up into Nigeria. And there was a "Black Scorpion" that sabotaged several African revolts around the continent. "Black Scorpion" is nobody, he's just another one of those body's used for European means, no one mention any "Black Scorpion" in Biafran War videos, they mention people who held off several super powers and their pet monkeys, while their wife and kids ran across Igboland looking for shelter and things to eat. Anyway, that was 40 years ago, bounced back, snatched the crown back.

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Lekwa Black Scorpionsssssssssss. Nwa boy-boyssss

Short Minds.

Eko Ile:
They also surrendered to another Yoruba man popularly known as OBJ

I feel sorry. It's like your rounding up all the victories you can.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875615#msg7875615 date=1299648383]

^-- So in your delusional mind, Biafra really fought both the UK and the Soviets in addition to Nigeria?  [/quote]The smug mile means you don't know anything about Egyptian pilots aiding Nigeria, or the amount of shells provided by Britain, or the amount of planes and other ammunition the USSR made sure Niger never lacked. It's a thing of pride.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=614770.msg7875615#msg7875615 date=1299648383]Na wa o. Please, do what I did. Purchase the book The Nigerian Civil War by John de St. Jorre. A lot of rumors, myths and legends bandied about (by both sides) have distorted reality, it seems.[/quote]Yes they have been distorted, like how the Yoruba 'conquered Igboland' when 1. the Yoruba didn't make half the military, and 2. the war was between Biafra and Nigeria. If you people don't want to be shown for what they are (muppets) then they need to be more careful selecting insults. Cheeeers

. . . . . .and then the rebels will rise again to control Libya's economy, they'll be all right.

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Ofor
Bronze
Probably from Ọka

Eko Ile:
Very delusional ibo rant as usual.

The questions is, where was your pen knife when Yoruba military men spanked your biafran a/ss before you end up surrendering to another Yoruba military man?


You are entitled to your delusions and dreams, but not to your real life facts and history,

Can you imagine the embarrassing spectacle of people bragging about being British pet monkeys, they think they actually fought a war themselves. Try and stand on your own two feet instead of relying on British/USSR victories. The Biafran military is regularly applauded for its single handed fight against 2 major super powers who used zombie Africans as a front. Waste.

Eko Ile:
Call me what ever you want, I don't have identity crisis and I'm not gonna wake up tomorrow morning and call myself a Jew or Libyan. You people are just too shallow, you also lack self worth and sense of belonging.

Say what you want but your people are just as guilty, at least ancient Israelites were mixed race.

Eko Ile:
Abeg no vex. I'm not trying to deny you your Jewishness or Libyanism, feel free to claim anything wey dey make you snore beta at night.


Don't worry, you people go find your long lost identity one day one day,

ndo.

Why do you guys forget your founding father from Saudi Arabia?

seanet02:
Bright? Okay we shall see.

We shall see what, why don't you go and fix matters in your own tent instead of threatening others?

ChinenyeN:
Is it just me, or do these numbers not add up?

Eri is Nri's father, he can't be the king of his own sons domain. Eri established a culture an Nri established the Nri Kingdom. Eri's existence is shown in the names of towns named after him and his grandsons. Ora-Eri, Agulu, Aguleri (Agulu Eri), etc.

[quote author=MzD@rkSkin link=topic=618743.msg7875112#msg7875112 date=1299632507][color=#0066ff]No he definitely was not Igbo lol he wasn't even 'African'
just a descendant. I hope u were being sarcastic lol  [/color][/quote]<la di da di>Stop lying!</la di da di>

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Current Eze Nri. Eze Nri Ènweleána II Obidiegwu Onyeso

Thurstan Shaw (head of the excavation of Igbo Ukwu) said that the excavation at on of the Igbo's (Igbo Jonah or Igbo Isaiah, I can't remember) might be an Eze Nri (the reconstruction posted above). If that were true, then Nri's traditional founding date in the 9th century may be proven true through the carbon dating (the thing they use to test the age of wood, bronze, etc). People should know that the places where these 'Igbo Ukwu' pieces were rediscovered were peoples homes, and the site was actually part of the neighbouring Nri town of Oraeri before (I think, founded by one of Eri's grandon's by the same name). Most of the items seemed to have been buried on purpose. They found a skull but was too broken to do anything with. What if the man buried was Eri?

With the people involved, no ones opinion is going to change, so it's best that the people speaking the truth work on trying to prove their theory true without flaws instead of trying to convince a side that's trying to convince you. I'll say that I don't believe the Edo came from the Yoruba, or the Yoruba came from the Edo, but the kingship thing. . . . . . that's all I'll say.

Omenani:
What about neighboring Igbo communities? You know how we Igbos like to borrow from other cultures besides spreading our culture as well.

Do you mean if Igbo people borrowed the Kalabari style and the top hats. I'll say they didn't, what the Igbo got from the Ijaw probably is the crocodile and fish masks (the one they wear on the head) even then some of the original Igbo masquerades were shared with the Kalabari. Igbo people are more strict with spiritual matters and don't borrow too often if at all. The Igbo most borrowed from the Ibibio, then it will be the Edo and then the Ijaw (maybe).

Omenani:
How do you know my brother?

From the style and they usually carve their ancestor on the wall hangings like that, I haven't seen Igbo people doing that, they don't usually carve their ancestors at all I don't think, there are exceptions. Here are other Kalabari ancestor shrines.

Edit: Sorry I don't know why I said Igbo people don't carve their ancestors. That's wrong.

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Igbo people don't wear top hats.