₦airaland Forum

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369348#msg6369348 date=1278900694]The state supports it how every other state in the USA supports Private investors by giving them tax breaks and making the environment conducive. . Go and read how alabama attracts car makers like NISSAN or how Michigan attracts new high tech industries its the same thing[/quote]So if they support them this way, what stops the government from advising the companies on where to put that money in better use. I don't believe that random companies out of the blue came to ask to build an extension on the shores of Lagos.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369348#msg6369348 date=1278900694]so whats your point. . .nobody has voted against this project and who are u to call it a waste?. . are u financing it? are u their bankers?
my friend u are of no consequence to this project,u are only frothing at the mouth online[/quote]I'm not financing the project, but I can see that the project is 'somehow' considering the situation of most Lagos inhabitants. I'm not frothing, they are comments that have truth to them. You don't know what consequence anyone here has on anything, don't underestimate people.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369348#msg6369348 date=1278900694]Why not let Private enterprise and private capital choose where it wants to deploy itself. . GOVT cannot tell private businessmen where to invest their money
Let the Govt build low income housing if it chooses. . its not the place of the private sector to do so[/quote]If the government was serious it would 'direct' the companies towards a reasonable project. It had to have been the government that asked them to come and build the extension, unless it is one big coincidence that the project came about around the 'mega city' project.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369348#msg6369348 date=1278900694]It is decentralized Government because each 36states in Nigeria is free to pursue whatever developmental scheme they want. . .
u were moaning about the interior of Nigeria,well they have the right to do it now,with some help from the federal GOVT,
but u should channel your complaints to the right ppl[/quote]I channelled my complaints as a passing remark, complaints in Nigeria are generally ignored. I thought you said the project decentralises the government?

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369348#msg6369348 date=1278900694]are u this slow or something?. .I have already told u the Lagos state Govt contibutes zero,nada to this project
whatever money they recieve is irrellevant. . .although the richest states are the Niger Delta states

As a matter of fact the percentage of federal money to the state budget is only 30%
u are not a stakeholder in this project. . .u are not a banker,financier,u dont have any property adjourning the V.I area
(whose property values will only rise once this is completed by the way), u probably dont reside in lagos or pay any taxes there
so again yea u need to hush up about this project[/quote]Hush and let you keep posting your own comments? Anyway, the other states don't have the infrastructure Lagos has been privileged with, like the international airport and several businesses based there and of course population, so Lagos has an advantage when companies come looking towards Nigeria.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369348#msg6369348 date=1278900694]who is they?. . .are u a Socialist or something?. . .If they fix this,if they fix that. . . .
Pls take your complaints to the Federal Govt. . .
If u cant get it into your head for the umpteenth time that in civilized countries,Capitalists invest where they want to,then i dont know what to tell u

U can as well get funds and get a consortium of your friends and go and build in inland lagos
what exactly is stopping u?[/quote]I saw a previous poster mention New York and Tokyo. These cities are probably in the civilised countries your talking about. If the people of these cities lived like those of Lagos and a whole extension was being built on their coast, someone will have more than just enough to say. You can be technical and talk about private and so on, but it doesn't stop the distastefulness of building something that costly next to people who have nearly nothing.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369348#msg6369348 date=1278900694]and u are one sad soul. . .who cannot appreciate anything good in life. . i pray u stay wherever it is u are and never come to Nigeria or Lagos
lets see who will have the last laugh,when u see your mates living good in the country of their birth

u can call lagos whatever u want. . I have visited most cities of the world and i am still moving back to lagos. . .[/quote]Good for you.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369206#msg6369206 date=1278894814]I dont know why but i like taking on ignorant folks like u on Nairaland. . .

For your info. . this is not a Nigerian Govt project. . .

Its not even a lagos state project,although the state does support it[/quote]How does the state support it?

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369206#msg6369206 date=1278894814]Its a privately funded project. . get it. . .[/quote]Maybe it is okay in Nigeria, but when a huge project is being introduced into a country, people should have their say. Whether it is private or not, a waste is a waste, plus it is dealing with the environment! People own private businesses in cities all over the world, but if a neighbourhood votes against it, it has to move.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369206#msg6369206 date=1278894814]Plus the state is going to be up to 25million in 2025

New districts have to open up[/quote]You're going to open up new districts when you can't even handle the ones you already have? Why not tell the 'privately funded project' (that is dealing with everyone's environment) to direct the project to something that would make the city liveable, you know, something like housing projects in place of buildings that are so derelict they are crumbling on top of people.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369206#msg6369206 date=1278894814]Its funny a lot of u cry about decentralizing governance in Nigeria
now that it is being done u also complain. . .
[/quote]How is this decentralising the government? I thought it was private?

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369206#msg6369206 date=1278894814]If other state Governors cannot provide a conducive environment to attract private capital
pls blame it on them
[/quote]Yes, because every other state in Nigeria receives the same amount of money as Lagos. Because they could afford to build their own island.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369206#msg6369206 date=1278894814]stop coming here to spew your ignorance. . .
and its not by force to buy the land. . u can stay wherever the hell u are and spend your money there
[/quote]Great words. This is exactly Nigeria. Accept it or shut up, right? No one is allowed comments.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369206#msg6369206 date=1278894814]If lagos didnt plan for future population growth u will complain
now that they are doing it. . u are still complaining
[/quote]Perhaps you didn't read what I wrote so I'll give you the chance to go and read again. How is building on the water preparing for population growth? What spectacular development is happening inland that warrants building on the ocean? This is just for showing off. If they fixed the inside of Lagos (the important part of any city) instead of dodging from it (like they did when they built Abuja) no one could complain even if they wanted to.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6369206#msg6369206 date=1278894814]or dont u know the UN has designated lagos as a mega-city?

and the city is running out of space?. . .
[/quote]Lagos is a mega slum, and building on the ocean to appear like a first world nation doesn't change that status.

Japan extended their shores because they already had a 'mega city', the biggest city in the world (where the over whelming majority of its population are well looked after) so they ran out of space. Nigeria is drastically extending their shores because? Instead of facing the problem, just build around it I guess. . . . . . I guess this is an alternate to Abuja, where the rich can escape the millions of poverty stricken citizens, and keep them out of sight, invite their foreign friends there and show them "the real Nigeria". The core continues to rotten. . . . . .

ChinenyeN:
Maybe. .  you Ohnuhnu might want to consider leaving. . .? Just a thought. . .

Who are these "ohnuhnu" you are always talking about, and how do you pronounce the name?

Adonike:
I want NFF to employ that Spanish coach NOW!

Even if the god of sport himself came down and coached the Nigerian National Team, nothing will change. . . . . .

Bidemi1997:
Free Spanish visa and flight ticket to anywhere in Spain for all the Orange supporter.  

Spain is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!

e see CUP o!

Which Visa, after they have finished you with monkey chanting how fast will that Visa be thrown away?

So in Africa the team of the most hostile fans to black people in the world won.

[quote author=Sisi_Kill link=topic=476174.msg6367922#msg6367922 date=1278876830]I'm keeping my option open until the game ends

But if you had a gun to my head, I'd say SPAIN baby!!!! Them spanish guys are sooo freaking cute.[/quote] The same Spanish people that make monkey noises for black people? Anyway. . . . .

Full Article

January 2010

Abuja — It has also regretted that inadequate funding and irregular power supply have always frustrated its attempt to turn the Dockyard in Apapa into a commercial entity.

The warship, still under construction at its Apapa base will be completed soon.[?]

General Manager, Naval Dockyard, Commodore A. B. Nuafa, made this known while taking journalists covering the House of Representatives round the dockyard in Lagos.

He said the premier docking facilities in the country was already addressing some of the problems through its partnership with Nigerian Maritime Administration and Safety Agency (NIMASA).

He said the dockyard needs adequate funding to function well and generate revenue for the country as a commercial outfit, revealing that many of the company's equipment in the various workshops were going bad.

According to him, "Most of the equipment are degrading". He disclosed that the big generating sets ordered by the management to compliment electricity supply would enter the country very soon.

Nuafa, who refused to disclose how much the dockyard was generating , merely said it was not enough to assist its operations, stressing that the potential of the dockyard were well known, even by other countries and investors who had shown interest in acquiring it.

He, however, explained that it was not possible to privatise the dockyard and allow outside interests, given the strategic position it occupies in the security of the country.

Nuafa said the attraction for the dockyard arose because of the nature of its clientele, disclosing that besides the need to attend to repairs and fix vessels belonging to the Nigerian Navy, the dockyard also attracted vessels from private concerns for repairs.

"It is a premier docking facility established to dock and repair naval vessels. We are commercialised because we attend to private vessels.

"We have made arrangements to dock two naval vessels but we have problems of alignment and we are waiting for experts", he said.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=475355.msg6355737#msg6355737 date=1278666643]i never knew yoruba have root in America.thanks for letting me believe your ignorant.olodo.equally,we may admit that obama is not from kenya and ezeagu not an igbo.rotflmao[/quote]What town is his father from? Find that interview where he said he's Nigerian or you know what you are.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=475868.msg6354543#msg6354543 date=1278634771]and then u have your informal sector which is normally hard to measure

$2400 a yr in Naija is N360,000 or N30,000 a month

My lil cousin that just got an entry level job makes N90,000 a month

Our Driver makes about N30,000 but has a bike which brings him N5,000 a week,thats another N20,000

and so on. . . . .[/quote]Most people in Nigeria live in villages, not in cities, the majority of Nigerians do not get 30,000 Naira a month, unless Nigeria has drastically changed. The streets of cities are even filled with street kids who buy and sell sometimes along with their parents, I don't believe all these people are even making 20,000 Naira a month each, which would be around 1000 Naira a day. For most Nigerians?

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=475868.msg6354473#msg6354473 date=1278633642]If u used just absolute GDP Nigeria would jump to number 36 or so in the world. . .[/quote]You could say that for some other countries, but what's the point? What will everyday Nigerians gain from that? Nothing. Per capita gives insight to to the country's citizens.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=475868.msg6354445#msg6354445 date=1278632959]Now a lot of what drags us down is our big population


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita[/quote]I thought you said you [quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=475868.msg6354335#msg6354335 date=1278630972]In a Global world u need a critical mass to be able to compete. . .[/quote]I don't see how the two match up. And why is a big country like Germany or the USA at the top of the GDP list if a large population is a nations downfall?

. . . . . . and the lack of a dominant culture [size=5pt](EQ: Fang 85.7%, Bubi 6.5%, Mdowe 3.6%, Annobon 1.6%, Bujeba 1.1%, other 1.4%)[/size] . . . . . . .

EQ
Population: 650,702
Literacy: 87%
Life expectancy at birth: 61.98 years
GDP - per capita (PPP): $36,600 (2009 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ek.html

NI
Population: 152,217,341
Literacy: 68%
Life expectancy at birth: 47.24 years
GDP - per capita (PPP): $2,400 (2009 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.html

This thread HAD to be started by no one else but a Nigerian living abroad.

tkb417:
pardon

His name is Nasir bin Olu Dara Jones stage name Nas formerly known as nasty Nas

The thing in bold, is that a Nigerian name? Yes/NO
a resounding YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

His father is Nigerian but he is an American by birth

so, i really dont know what ure saying

So if someone has a Yoruba name they are Nigerian? You need to read up on black American modern history and learn about the black power movement. Show me an interview/some sort of reliable source that says he's Nigerian, most artists state their origins so it should not be hard for you to find, or did you get the information just from his name?

Olu Dara Jones [Nas father] (born Charles Jones III in Natchez, Mississippi[1]  on 12 January 1941) is an American  cornetist, guitarist  and singer. He first became known as a jazz musician, playing alongside avant-garde musicians such as David Murray, Henry Threadgill, and Art Blakey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olu_Dara

rebranded:
I guess they are not thinking what happens after the celebration, back to square one!

If there was one thing they were doing, it was thinking. I thought Nigerians are used to this kind of thing by now, I mean, you know where all that money is going. . . .

tkb417:
ok, maybe he is Nigerian indirectly

So are millions of others, but nobody can say for sure who is and who isn't. . . . . . a name is just a name.

tkb417:
Nollywood is crap

our musicians are better than your musicians

RSA vs Nigeria in music?
hell no

Seal, Shade Adu, Nas , Fela are Nigerians

who do u have? Chaka chaka and Angelique Kidjo

no contest

Nas is not Nigerian. . . . . well directly.