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Sometimes movies are shot in countries with which the storyline has no relation. A good example is the Lord of the Rings partly shot in New Zealand. . . the title doesn't seem to be connected to 'Africanness' so we'll just have to wait and see. I think it will be good for Ekiti, if there's no exploiting.

ThiefOfHearts:
one year later?

Are you insane?

the rebuttal isnt even funny which makes matters worse.

You got the message, it doesn't bother me if it was from 10 years ago.

[quote author=plus_Queen link=topic=178049.msg2880514#msg2880514 date=1222913817]some work with their hands some others use their bottoms
what a world[/quote]What else do they work with? What a world indeed

Exoticeye:
Guess you are referring t to the Benin tribe in Edo state.

What is a "Benin tribe"? You mean the Edo nation?

ThiefOfHearts:
Na your mama be dog meat.

How did I miss this?

Don't ever bring someone who hasn't anything to do with your problems into an argument! If you were troubled I hope you have gone and seen a shrink.

ChinenyeN:
I'm curious about how they plan on applying this to the diaspora though. . .

The 'diaspora', for the most part, is lost, they don't even count because they (the children of those who left Nigeria) are not coming back or going to contribute to their homelands for any foreseeable time, especially the "Nigerian" Americans. American culture is a very strong concoction, Chinese people who are the best culture keepers are struggling to uphold their language in America, let alone careless Africans.

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This dilemma only concerns the "middle class" Nigerians, there are hardly any people from this 'social group' in their 50's and younger who can speak fluent Igbo. As far as I know people in the village and towns (who make up the majority of Igbo people) and cities like Onicha, Umuahia, Aba, Abakaleke and co. are not facing the same dilemma, Igbo people should start worrying when these people start getting rich, because it's them keeping the language alive, . . . . .

There is a reason why most thriving languages usually are a lingua franca/official language of a country. . . . . .

rocksta:
LOL who says it results from mixing with Europeans

between colonialism and modern times is a difference of like 2 generations, so a lightskinned Igbo would be able to point out the exact White member of his family, but they cannot

its multigenerational mixing with Caucasians, but with Semites

funny how Igbos aside from their lightskin also tend to have semicaucasoid features, hmmmmm,

What if they look like that. . . . . . .because they just look like that? What's to say an African group couldn't develop unique features like any other group on earth?

abadaba:
Should fathers participate in Omugwo?. I think there should be gender equality.

It's funny you should say that, really funny:

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Hmm, I must have been disappointing people often. . . . . . .

londoner:
Its funny to me how people here are talking. As if Nigeria of present has any moral standing or pedegree to even tell right from wrong, let alone good from evil.

A country where 1/4 or was it 1/3 of girls will be molested (no one should contest me on this, I've beard witness to these frequencies myself), it is a random British musician we will raise our voice against. Nigerians; as usual scared to face the actual problems destroying the country.

So much focus on one part of the issue by guys. . . . . a lot of insecurities in this thread. 

Who brainwashed gave Nigeria its laws and values? Right. . . . . . . .

fidelis848:
Every Ika descendant that knows his/her roots will tell you that our ancestors migrated from the Benin Empire at about 900 years ago (1100 AD) and move south-eastward to Ika land and then inter-married with the Ibos from aniocha, oshimili and kwale region so thats the reason for the mixed cultural heritage of the Ikas. Igwe festival is celebrated in most part of Ika land and is the same with the binis. Food stuffs like plantain called Ogede, beans (ewa) all derived from the benin kingdom. Besides that, the crowning of any king (obi) in Ika land is supersided and recognised by the Oba of Benin or any of his delegates sent on his behalf. So please people get it right.

This is actually sad because (mind you I'm not saying they don't have Edo ancestry) the Edo people do not recognise the Ika and never have. They call the Ika 'Owe Igbo' which is a derogatory word for Igbo and especially Ika people. Saying that the Oba of Benin's recognition of the Obi of Agbor is proof that the Ika are Edo is a joke because that would mean that Elizabeth II is also Edo through the Oba of Benin's recognition of her.

It is also sad on another level that the Ika people push themselves on Edo people and clamor to be recognised as Edo when it was their very own Ika ancestors that fought long and hard against Edo domination, so much so that the great walls of Benin are said to have been built because of the Ika warriors.

I would understand an Ika identity based solely on being of Ika heritage and having Ika culture, but this isn't the case. It has come to a point that the Ika identity is about how more Edo it is and how less Igbo it is. Ika is not about being Ika anymore but about being less Igbo and more Edo which is sad because it confuses the kids and they have no idea what it is to be Ika or from a town like Agbor so they associate with neighbouring groups.

EzeUche:
The Aro just like the power Asante Empire used European weapons for our conquest of our neighbors. Unfortunately, we sold slaves to the Europeans, but with the end of the slave trade, the British considered us a threat so they defeated us in battle.

Aro gave the British an excuse to conquer them and that was the continuation of slavery.

EzeUche:
Udezue, let the Ngwa declare war on us!   Lets separate the men from the boys.


Yes we would have dominated the entire East. Once we consolidated our rule over the Igbo and Ibibio, we would have struck at the Benin Empire and then finish off the crumbling Oyo Empire.  

And you think the Fulani are tougher than the Aro?    Fulani horsemen could not penetrate the Eastern forest so of course they would lose. We Aro excelled in jungle warfare with our Ohafia allies.

With all this talk why didn't you finish the British? History is written. The End.

EzeUche:
We rats would have controlled all of Alaigbo if those daaammn oyibos did not end our reign over the East! We held sway not just over some clans of Igbos, but also the Ibibio.

The Ngwa stopped our advance once, but we would have eventually subdued those weak people.

Look at these Americans.

Uh, no offense ChinenyeN, but are you by any chance talking about the same Ngwa of which some members used to (as far as I know) trek far to other communities to behead people while the people were working on farms?  Who is offensive

Oh, there are too many. One would be silent letters, e.g Nigerians pronounce 'Listen' as 'List-in', when it is actually 'Lis-en'.

EzeUche:
However, I doubt that would ever happen. Just like Donald Duke when he was gov was requesting for Igbo businessmen to invest in Calabar, we will never be landlocked due to the need of the other minorities for our business acumen. The Ijaws cannot survive on oil alone.

A federation can be formed between the Igbo and Ibibio this isn't even an issue. We share too many traits to just severe ourselves completely from each other. And to clarify they've given/take away from the Igbo as much as the Igbo have given/taken away from them including intermarriage, language and customs such as Ekpe. Opobo, Eket and Calabar have the potential all the other ports in the world have, and Calabar was Nigeria's most popular port at one time (although for a negative reason). As for the Ijaw, I don't know, maybe they can join a neo-Benin Empire, but there can never be another union between the Igbo and Ijaw when talking about states.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=445416.msg6067713#msg6067713 date=1274380940]abeg forget about that your poll.the greater percentage of nigerians comprise of the uneducated public wh shouldnt be manipulated into what they DONT want.where have you seen people voting for a referendum without knowing what it means.your poll was not understood by a large percentage that voted and you didnt take your time to educated in details;you actually wanted to manipulte them into supporting what they dont know nor understand until the admin educated people and they got a clearer picture of the whole thing.
go to the market and ask the women if they want nigeria to break;go to other places where there are average men and women;not boasting of a lost struggle on the internet.[/quote]First of all I wasn't the one that opened the poll you're talking about.

So what evidence do you have to show that the people on the internet are not average? Do you have to be a billionaire to afford the internet, or what kind of un-average people are on the internet? I would like to see that vote take place one day among the "average" people but it will only be dispersed with bullets. Nigeria isn't a secure country as you may know and this works to the advantage of those with bullets.

[quote author=To-chi link=topic=310608.msg6067676#msg6067676 date=1274380572]@ezeagu,

It is indeed a shame to know that some of the different groups of people that was forced into that contraption pretend not to see that the very ''contraceptive'' into which they were boxed does not and will never allow for the free flow of growth and development to permeate into that contraption called Nigeria. Haba after 48 years, we are still discussing food, shelter and clothing issues.

He who have ears let him hear.[/quote]This is Nigeria, pretend and it will be well.

[quote author=To-chi link=topic=310608.msg6067733#msg6067733 date=1274381103]@ Kobojunkie,

It is Igbo and not Ibo[/quote]She knows.

[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=445416.msg6067659#msg6067659 date=1274380441]if it ever actually comes to splitting of Nigeria, it will b best to leave them to decide on that one.[/quote]This is what I am saying, why would you force people with yourself?

EzeUche:
Ijawland is way too small to be considered a nation. Just divide it up with the East and the Midwest then that would solve the problem.

A nation filled up with only Ijaws would fail. Their nation would not progress due to their laziness. They need Igbos in control to lead them in the right direction.

Ijaw land is not even that small compared to Igboland, it's actually around half. It's not fair to cancel a peoples aspirations because some others think they're lazy. It's their land let them decide what they want to do with it.

EzeUche:
I agree with you about the Eastern Ijaw and Ogoni but not the Efik people. I know these people very well, and they fought for Biafra in large numbers. These people out of all the minorities of the East were the Igbos true allies in our time of need.

Now the Ogoni will always fear Igbo domination but you see that the Igbo did not come to their rescue when their champion was killed by Abacha. And no one trust the Ijaw.

To be honest EzeUche is right. Most Igbo people no longer see the Ijaw as a closer group to themselves as they did before the Nigeria-Biafra war, and it's a fact that most Igbo would rather be on their own than join these people because of what happened in the war and after. EzeUche is also right about the Ibibio and Efik. Many other Nigerians don't 'hear' these people so they don't know much about their allegiances and historical relationship with the Igbo to be fair.

Kobojunkie:
You did not agree with me  . . .  please STOP TWISTING what others say in your bid to score some imaginary cookie point.

I DID NOT call Ibos brainless and silly, and REFUSE to be associated in any comment, even from you, that postulates that Ibos are brainless and silly for moving out to Kaduna or any other place on the planet. Such comment has NOTHING to do with me and have NOTHING IN COMMON with my statements on the issue thus far!!

I really do not care for your Word-twist games. DO not make up LIES about my post. Be bold enough to OWN your own distatement opinions of Ibos. No need to push them on me please.

Let's move on and stop whinging about irrelevant things that I could care less about. Your post was cited and people can see what you wrote. No more excuse to draw attention to yourself.

What's the next topic. . . . ?

sjeezy8:
Oil isnt even that big of a deal anymore- people should stop using that excuse.

So why do people care about Nigeria. . . . . ?

EzeUche:
Ngwa man, you are starting to be a thorn in my side as well.

South-South is another way of dividing the former Eastern Region. They were not clamoring for this back in the good ol days

But the Ijaw are the true South-South and a true nation, do they not also deserve the same position of independence for themselves? After all the Ijaw are not Igbo and their lands are quite significant.

Kobojunkie:
So those in Afghanistan for WORK are also redcross? Again, DO NOT ACCUSE ME OF MAKING CLAIMS THAT I DID NOT.

IF YOU think it is brainless for Ibos to move to Kaduna, that is YOUR THOUGHT NOT MINE. Again DO NOT LIE against My person. I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU . .  it is that simple!!

Can you not see that I agreed with what you posted and moved on to make my own points, as far as I'm concerned, I could care less whether you agree with me or whether "your person" is jumping over River Niger. You're not that important.

Now onto Afghan situation. What on Earth are you responding to me, it was you who started talking about Americans choosing to live in Afghanistan "to help others", so I asked if the Igbo families in Kaduna had also gone as red cross aid to "to help others" out in Kaduna. Your analogy was stoopid, and you've realised that so now you've resorted to gibberish.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=445416.msg6066691#msg6066691 date=1274370202]what percentage of the population do those yoruba,ijaw or igbo constitute ?.The war was not taught in school because the govt didnt want to spread the hatred.the militant groups you pointed out are more or less armed gang with no basic IDEOLOGY other than to forment troubles and cause public disturbances.so forget that 60s' drama[/quote]I'd say open a poll, but we already know what happens to polls here when they don't go a certain persons way. Be honest, none of the groups really care about Nigeria and the only reason why most are pretending is because of oil, same story, repeated over and over. MASSOB has more influence than you think, people are just unsure. If we can't learn about the 'civil war' without trouble, then we obviously haven't gotten over the events. Every time you say forget, the agitation intensifies and the determination spreads deeper.

Kobojunkie:
it is not brainless or silly for Americans to choose to move to Afghanistan to help others or make a livelihood, same way it is not brainless or silly for an Ibo family to relocate to Kaduna.

Excuse me, which American families choose to live in Afghanistan and since when have Igbo families in Kaduna become red cross employees?  I am wandering whether some people are joking or whether they are serious and just bash out whatever first comes to mind. What   Please be consistent.

Kobojunkie:
If it is name calling you want to indulge in, go right ahead. But like Paddy_lo already revealed, the ibos are also some of the Hypocrites and Sycophants we have keeping Nigeria where it is today. I am not sure how you suddenly want to REMOVE yourself from the problem you gladly helped create, and think those saying NO to your requests are the hypocrites and the sychophants this time. ROFLMAO!!!

To-chi, advise, don't reply this person.

Kobojunkie:
And your claim that Ibo people in the north are not there by choice is UTTER BULL. Who exactly forced them there before the war, and back after the war? I have Ibo friends who sing of how Kaduna life is the best for them. I am too scared of the crazy religio-tribalists up that way to go there myself but these guys fly back to Kaduna as soon as they land in Nigeria. And you are here telling us THEY ARE BEING FORCED to do all that?  Please STOP IT! lol

I agree with Kobojunkie, Igbo people are really silly and brainless when it comes to things like this, I don't give any sympathy for any Igbo that loses anything while in known hostile lands. There's no excuse, except to brag about living in distant lands, for living in Kaduna.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=445416.msg6066332#msg6066332 date=1274366717]nigeria comprises of over 250 tribes and i am not HAPPY that just one tribe would cause its disintegration and that is the view of most nigerians who prefer to see this country as one.
to this day,the agitation of the igbo led this country to the civil war;that caused loss of lives and properties and the hatred of the war still dwell in the minds of the warring faction especially the igbo.
If you doubt this,let the govt call for a referendum on this issue in order to find a lasting solution to it once and for all cuz i still believe that only a few percentage of igbo want biafra or a sovereign state[/quote]There also members of your ethnic group that would love to have their own country. Ijaw people want their own country. No one really loves Nigeria that much, that's just not true. You don't have to support Biafra to want your own country. Till this day no one in the east ups and starts discussing the war and there's nothing in school about the war, can you believe that? Do you know what that is? That is an alarm sign that the events of the 60's are still proceeding. Don't sleep on MASSOB, MEND, MOSOP and co.

[quote author=To-chi link=topic=310608.msg6065811#msg6065811 date=1274361468]Those that wants a certain group of people to continue to remain in a cesspit contraption but fail woefully to come up with a  development strategy to move the contraption out of the cesspit are the biggest HYPOCRITES AND SYCOPHANTS ever to roam the face of the planet.

Those that have ears let them hear[/quote]No one has ears here. This is something that has to be drummed into peoples heads over and over and over and over and over again, but they just don't have the imagination to conceive anything apart from what they've become used to. It's seen as an 'Igbo thing' to call for a division of Nigeria and the spiteful will rather shoot themselves in the foot than allow a certain group to have their way, this is the Nigerian way. Oh, and let's not forget about oil. . . .

Do you know the ironic thing about all this though? Whenever there's a poll on whether Nigeria should break up on this forum, the overwhelming majority pick a break of Nigeria and of course the poll magically disappears/is rearranged/spiked/rigged for the satisfaction of whoever does, after all this forum is a microcosm of Nigeria.

Nigerians will say one thing and do the other. I've come to learn how fake Nigerians are.

[quote author=bk/babe97 link=topic=445416.msg6062600#msg6062600 date=1274300637]Agreed!  But there's an even bigger joke: YOU CRYING ABOUT  YOUR LACK OF A AIRPORT!!!  [/quote]Lol, what a baby. Calm down with the capslock, there's no need for a mental breakdown on the internet. Look at me, I don't need capslock to humour a fool. Blood pressure risiiiiisingggg. . . .