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PoliticsRe: The Trouble With The Yoruba by ezeagu(m): 5:54pm On Jul 16, 2010
[quote author=bk/babe90 link=topic=479360.msg6397339#msg6397339 date=1279298439]See that Piguet on his wrist? I bet u, it'll feed your whole village for two straight years![/quote]I bet it will feed Obasanjo's whole village as well, I don't get bigging him up? huh In fact it can feed a whole Japanese village.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 5:49pm On Jul 16, 2010
jayflex:
Power generation is worth inviting partners for, so too are textile industries, and general manufacturing of all kinds a stuff. Its appalling that so many people here are reducing opposing views to ''enemies of progress'' and related BS. The general mentality on this thread shows why this country has grown poorer and more backward while the rest of africa gets it act together. Till this government can slow down the craze for property and start investing in REAL things that can employ and grow wealth it will be only known in thirty years time for beautification and little else.
Thank you very much. Some have put themselves in the position of lord and master of defending the Eko Atlantic project at all cost as if they had a meeting with the developers or as if they even know the whole truth of what is happening with the project. Because of this, they have developed an us against them mentality, as if they have more to do with this project than the worst pessimist and we have people cheering them on as if this is a boxing match. My original comment was replied with hostility, why? Because I gave an opinion, if this is the young generation that's supposed to take Nigeria to a new direction, then I don't see change for a while.
PoliticsRe: Thief Senator David Mark Under Fire From Igbos by ezeagu(m): 5:34pm On Jul 16, 2010
Aigbofa:
Everybody is an ibo hater. It appears truth is to an ibo as krptonite is to Superman.
Success is the Igbo Lois Lane. Keep hating.
PoliticsRe: Lekki - Ikoyi Link Bridge Construction Update - July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 5:30pm On Jul 16, 2010
A project worthwhile. . . . . . . and relevant.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Is Copying The United States by ezeagu(op): 10:35pm On Jul 15, 2010
[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=463089.msg6392580#msg6392580 date=1279224093][color=deeppink]^^I'm stating that this thread is totally false.

And it's wrong to depict false news whether it's a joke or not and this thread should be deleted[/color].[/quote]What news? Why are you just saying this now, you were the second to post on this thread. . . . . huh If you can't handle the thread, just ignore it, everything is not for everybody.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Is Copying The United States by ezeagu(op): 7:35pm On Jul 15, 2010
[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=463089.msg6392155#msg6392155 date=1279217986][color=deeppink]I can't believe most people are using a government issue as a joke.

You all should becareful of the way you post these stuff on the internet.[/color][/quote]What do you mean?
PoliticsRe: Collapsed Lasu-iba Road: Another Brf Failure by ezeagu(m): 7:34pm On Jul 15, 2010
tpiah:
this is the road. If you have eyes, look at it very well.

https://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3017/lasuroadjpg300x225.jpg
I don't understand, what happened? huh
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 5:40pm On Jul 15, 2010
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 5:36pm On Jul 15, 2010
Dharavi

An urban redevelopment plan is proposed for the Dharavi area, managed by American-trained architect  Mukesh Mehta.  The plan involves the construction of 30,000,000 square feet (2,800,000 m2) of housing, schools, parks and roads to serve the existing 57,000 families residing in the area, along with 40,000,000 square feet (3,700,000 m2) of residential and commercial space for sale. There has been significant local opposition to the plans, largely because existing residents are due to receive only 225 square feet (20.9 m2) of land each. Furthermore, only those families who lived in the area before the year 2000 are slated for resettlement. Concerns have also been raised by residents who fear that some of their small businesses in the "informal" sector may not be relocated under the redevelopment plan. The government has said that it will only legalize and relocate industries that are not "polluting."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharavi
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 5:33pm On Jul 15, 2010
Yinkaboy:
Eze

Lets get back to history and giving you some education. Dude, I am serious it shows you never left naija, these grand statements


London had megaslum in victorian times, most of east london was a slum , http://www.victorianlondon.org/houses/slums.htm
Where did I say otherwise? I said that London of those times had light and water Lagos is struggling with now. Post some of those Victorian slum buildings and compare them with Makoko.

Yinkaboy:
As to comparing it Mumbai, its a perfect example, the largest slums in the world are in Asia mainly Mumbai http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharavi, as my boy have stated  they problems with power and water, ere our friends at the bbc can tell you http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8138273.stm.
You have the gut to post water shortages in Mumbai when there's no running water in most of Lagos?


Yinkaboy:
As to building a new city, they have  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mumbai,

Get educated! shocked
They've built a new city in land, or they've built an extension to the city. Was the city built in 3 years or was it not developed over decades?

nulldev:
A power cut = Power supply not meeting demand?  grin you lot keep cracking me up. No power failures in Mumbai,  grin
Even the article that was first posted said there was 24hr supply of electricity to the state. Even if it didn't there's nothing for you to celebrate about because light does not reach Lagos how it reaches the slums of Mumbai, or maybe Mumbai buys as much generators as Lagos.

The eastern suburbs of Bhandup, Mulund and Kanjur, and Thane and Navi Mumbai, which were getting 24 hours of power supply under the zero power cut scheme, are likely to face [size=15pt]power cuts[/size] again, starting Saturday midnight.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Power-cuts-return-to--City-s-eastern-suburbs/Article1-535438.aspx
Since you can't discuss without introducing unrelated cities.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 5:12pm On Jul 15, 2010
debosky:
There are power cuts in Mumbai - not only the slums. Again, avoid making hasty comments. http://www.hindustantimes.com/Power-cuts-return-to--City-s-eastern-suburbs/Article1-535438.aspx

Analysts say that the availability of power in Mumbai is around 2,350 mw against the demand of over 3,000 mw. The deficit is increasing annually.
The thing is slums in Mumbai get power more than Lagos those, and they have running water, picking out parts of a  searched article does nothing to help your argument that Lagos is in a position to diverge from its most pressing issues.

This is Mumbai slums with a working train system:

https://img.youtube.com/vi/E3PM1IQpLdk/0.jpg

nulldev:
LOL@ people dreaming up facts without bothering to check.
LOL@ people searching up random articles for their facts.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/832485-london-power-cut-causes-thousands-to-miss-england-v-slovenia
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Is Copying The United States by ezeagu(op): 4:46pm On Jul 15, 2010
Now Nigeria is creating more states, apparently. grin
PoliticsRe: The Trouble With The Yoruba by ezeagu(m): 4:44pm On Jul 15, 2010
Cohomology:
We in the East face the same problem of horrible governors, because they hide under the shroud of the inept arseholes in Abuja and use the same divide and rule tactics you allude to. However, such tactics would be ineffectivel in the coming Republic of Biafra.
It seems like people have moved away from the idea of the old Biafra (and even the name) and are looking towards their own indigenous lands instead, e.g Igboland.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 4:41pm On Jul 15, 2010
Yinkaboy:
Wow-eze

Do know your history? Have you ever left naija? These place had slums just like Lagos, before they developed, most cities did up until 40 years, when Lagos was small. Lagos is having the same problems as victorian London, the main difference is that UK has industralized, and naija is industralizing just like mumbai, Sao Paol, Jakarta and Manilla, hence the need for a new island.


The largest slum in the world is in mumbai, and they basically built a brand new modern city as well.Its called New Mumbai grin
Victorian London had running water and light, it had proper housing, even in its slums. New Mumbai is another city altogether. Lagos overall does not even have the level of maintained electricity Mumbai slums have, and you want to build a new city? Do you know that there are no power failures in Mumbai slums? Did you know these slums get running water? Keep comparing Lagos to Sao Paulo and Tokyo.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 4:15pm On Jul 15, 2010
Yinkaboy:
What I am saying is what ever semantics you want to use, or what ever examples you want canary wharf, dubai,
boston, san franscico, the premise is the same the reclaiming of land, or islands, for the use of building new parts of the city. Even Alexandria by Alexander the great.

It is feasible and will continue to happen.
Lagos is on the level of Alexandria, Dubai, Boston and San Francisco? huh

KnowAll:
[size=14pt]It is a natural Island caused by OX-Bow lake formation of the R. Thames.[/size]
Exactly so how is there no difference?
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 4:02pm On Jul 15, 2010
Yinkaboy:
ezeagu

Right, artificial land? used for business?


The Isle of Dogs is situated some distance downriver from the City of London. The area was originally a sparsely populated marshland before its drainage and planting in the 13th century. Dutch engineers reclaimed the land 17th later urbanised,
Are you telling me that the isle of dogs development was on the same scale as Eko Atlantic extending a whole city out of London? Was the isle of dogs not already there, and if it was a developed abandoned plot, how does this counter my point?
PoliticsRe: The Trouble With The Yoruba by ezeagu(m): 3:59pm On Jul 15, 2010
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=479360.msg6390908#msg6390908 date=1279205268]you want to hear story abi ? Read the other thread about igbo and see the troubles i'm talking about.[/quote]That was a very stupiid article. Anyway I'll leave you with your problems here.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 3:51pm On Jul 15, 2010
KnowAll:
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[size=14pt]Canary Wharf is in the Isle of dog, a semi Island  caused by an extreme winding River Thames. [/size]
An artificial island, the context was an artificial island,. . . . . . . obviously.
PoliticsRe: The Trouble With The Yoruba by ezeagu(m): 3:33pm On Jul 15, 2010
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=479360.msg6390802#msg6390802 date=1279204294]this thread surfaced after the other one about igbo was posted.the fact is that the igbo are living indenial blaming yoruba for their troubles and it pisses me off whenever i hear that afterall igbo have caused nigeria more troubles than yoruba.[/quote]Like what troubles?
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 3:29pm On Jul 15, 2010
Yinkaboy:
Your still living on fantasy.

Again, this is private money, and why does it need to be inland? There is no space, unless you demolish peoples house.

Beijing did what you are saying, inland but they destroyed houses and lives!
They sent people back home.

Yinkaboy:
Have been to London my friend? Because this just like Canary Wharf! It was abandoned land that private developers took over to be an independent hub out side the square mile.
Am I seeing things or did you just channel my point? Last time I checked Canary Wharf isn't an island.
PoliticsRe: The Trouble With The Yoruba by ezeagu(m): 3:24pm On Jul 15, 2010
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=479360.msg6388576#msg6388576 date=1279178836]Yoruba internal problem is their own personal problem unlike that of igbo blaming yoruba for their misfortunes.when will you people stop nagging besides there is nothing like unity among the igbo talkless of canvassing for amicable peace among them.[/quote]So you people are proving people right? Can you not talk about your nations personal issues without involving Igbo into your discussion? What does Igbo unity have to do with the Yoruba nation, and how does it benefit it?
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 3:21pm On Jul 15, 2010
KnowAll:
[size=14pt]At least Soludo should have being giving the benefit of the doubt, of turning Onitsha and Anambra state as the Dubai of the East.[/size]
God forbid.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 3:04pm On Jul 15, 2010
babapupa:
You mean the state should have said to the developers, instead of injecting tens on billions of dollars and creating jobs for hundreds of thousands of Lagosians, why don't you take over the state's responsibilities and go build road, schools and hospitals which of course the state is doing on a daily basis. Is any other state in Nigeria delivering what Fashola is delivering? Your mindless argument is very mute.
I like the way you dodged where I actually said housing and building this city in land. Nice. And what jobs are being created that wouldn't have been created if this was inland? If they made this city (some people are saying it's not a city) on the mainland would it not beautify Lagos and give it a skyline worthy of taking pictures of?

babapupa:
Btw, how many state in Nigeria and even in Africa have a light rail system under construction, a ten lane freeway with BRT and rail system (First in Africa) under construction? Please tell me.
All your looking for is an ethnocentric argument, maybe that's all you can contribute and that's why you can't be objective.

babapupa:
Running your mouth off as if the state is not attending to it's core responsibilities because they did what governments all over the world do (Attracting investments and jobs to promote development and broaden it's tax base.) is not only silly, it's backward, ill informed thinking and irresponsible way of thinking.
I would never hear someone from a developed country defend their government as if it was their family. I don't know why you people act as if your family own Eko Atlantic or if you've got more to do with the project than someone from Cameroon. You'll start to insult someone for something you have no input to, for a state you've probably done nothing for.

babapupa:
I seriously hope non of you people gets behind any desk to administrate the lives of animals talk less citizens of you villages.
I hope you'll start to understand that developing a country has nothing to do with showing off.

Yinkaboy:
Ezeagu,

No logic, did you read the new lagos master plan? Ha Ha? No! There are already project earmarked for inland as well. Fashola, wants modernize all of the city.

This is best avenue without destroying peoples home and people complaining of land grabs, like Maroko!
You're supposed to explain it to me before telling me I have no logic. That's usually how a logical statement goes. As for the inland city project, please start a thread.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 2:50pm On Jul 15, 2010
OAM4J:
Exactly, like i told ezeagu, he must be a genius to think the Governor should simply tell any investor that want to build a 'Paradise-City' in Lagos state to either support/invest in his 'pressing' state projects  or go to hell with his billions
You people are not serious. Your trying to tell people that the government did not attract investors. I'm still asking you people whether the Atlantic sea was private or whether the Lagos government does not have a say about its own shores. Maybe that is why lots of ships are lined up in front of Lagos docks for weeks trying to off load, because the government doesn't control its shores? Your talking about "telling investors what to do" when you will be telling the investors to build housing in the future, right, or no, they'll just build what they like. Lagos won't "tell investors what to do", which means securing a deal apparently, like Eko Atlantic did. Again if Eko Atlantic was made inland, what benefit would it not have over having it in the sea?

Mariory:
Reply you for what reason? I'm in no mood to repeat what others have said. However, seeing you gnashing your teeth and foaming at the mouth because of this project is entertaining. Bítch-slapping that mouth at the same time is just a bonus. grin

Oh and one more thing, the project will continue wether you like it or not. How does that make you feel? grin
Air. Nothing to add to the discussion but air. And talking about bïtch. . . . .
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 2:43pm On Jul 15, 2010
Elaineh:
But Ezeagu, how many times have paddy_lo and co. stated that this is NOT a government project? It is being undertaken by PRIVATE companies for their own benefit. It is not the responsibility of private corporations to ensure that all of the state's roads are tarred, that its slums are developed, etc. Building this city on the mainland would require razing people's property, destroying people's homes, rerouting existing roads, etc. Is that what you'd like to see happen?
Yes. 'Projects' and housing towers in the West are raised down all the time, and the UK is making sure to remove most or all of these types of buildings. Lagos does not have to even demolish these slums in one go, the buildings built there do not even need to be made of expensive material that makes the building long to build, Haiti has homeless people in tents and they are building houses, those tents may be better than some peoples houses in Lagos. . . . .

Elaineh:
Certainly, I don't need to explain to you why that would be a problem.
What will happen?

Elaineh:
Are the private entities who want this city realized supposed to wait until the Lagos state government has hiroshimad an acceptable plot of land (twice the present size of VI, no less) on the mainland before they can start to build?
If by "Hiroshimad" you mean develop the infrastructure of Lagos and then clear away unwanted unmaintained buildings, put a proper plan for each district and then ask them to come and build a business district, than okay.

Elaineh:
Meanwhile, the Tokyos, Dubais and New Yorks of the world will continue to leave Lagos even farther behind in the dust.
Why didn't you add the swinging gardens of Babylon or Atlantis to your list.

Elaineh:
I have never seen a situation where adding acreage to a country's existing territory by pushing back the waters and building on an area that was once just the deep blue sea is considered a problem. It blows my mind.
But it won't blow your mind that this project is taking place next to Lagos, Nigeria, where electricity and water is a privilege. If you want to compete with Tokyo, where is Lagos housing towers, where are they that warrants finally pushing into the sea like Japan has. Have you looked at a video or photos of Japan where they have things like capsule hotels or where every other building is a tower? That is if Lagos hasn't passed Tokyo's standard yet.

Mariory:
I don't think it matters how many times he is told that. The guy is just arguing for the sake of it. You just need to read some of the nonsense he is typing.
Reply me directly with an explanation of your view point, or don't type at all.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 4:12am On Jul 15, 2010
OAM4J:
like every city and region of each state you have visited all over the world being same?  huh

BTW, how do you define development and progress? let me guess, 'repeating the same thing over and over again'  huh
I define progress by the ability to not have children manning boats to get to school, I define progress by the ability to at least tar up all your roads or get some 'private' company to do that before you start building districts in the Atlantic, I define progress by the ability to adapt to certain situations, e.g develop the swamp slums into something that could be tour-able, before building distractions in the sea. No one has said what this project has over any project that would have been planned in land. There is space if you fix your place up. I don't know any other reputable city whose inhabitants share the same standard of living as Lagos, yet their government is building cities in the sea without focussing solely on the most pressing problems.
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 4:00am On Jul 15, 2010
OAM4J:
I dont know how i miss this thread until now.

Kudos to you Paddy_lo, babapupa, Gbawe and others for holding forte the argument in support of this project.

I mean what problem can a private funded project like this give excepts benefits galore.

It is at no cost to the government, no loss to the people, or threat to the environment

but guarantee development, investments, job, and economic growth

What else can one ask for? How can anyone be against this?
You can't attach a state of the art bungalow to an Aba block of flats. Does that explain it?
TravelRe: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by ezeagu(m): 3:47am On Jul 15, 2010
Anyway. . . . .

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=477443.msg6388071#msg6388071 date=1279161559]what i still have problems with(among many other things) is why u keep drinking panadol for another mans headache? huh

U dont like this project fine. . .we heard u for the umpteenth time. . .
why not move along. . .
[/quote]What point exactly is there of opening a thread on a forum without allowing different opinions? What was I supposed to do on this thread? Praise it because it is a Nigerian development even without looking at it properly? If you're not able to explain then leave it to someone else to do.

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