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Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 1:06am On Jul 01, 2010 |
006: . . . and what has the population figures have to do with what we are talking about?  We are not talking about census figures! You're asking me what a census has to do with the population/diversity count of ethnic groups? All right, you don't want to believe that there's an Ebira an Ishan, Tarok, Djerma, Kirdi, Fon, Isoko, Kilba, Ogoni, Longuada, Buduma even Fulani among many more. Fine, I can guess the reason behind this. . . . . . . . |
Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 3:17pm On Jun 30, 2010 |
006: . . . and what has the population figures have to do with what we are talking about?  We are not talking about census figures! We're talking about reliability, the reliability of a source that says there are only 37 ethnic groups in Nigeria. If they are absolutely accurate in the count of ethnic groups, then why should they slack in other areas? If they are under counting a population how are they going to know the number and types of ethnic groups? |
Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 3:12pm On Jun 30, 2010 |
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Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 3:10pm On Jun 30, 2010 |
Oh, and 006, you may also like to know that the Nigerian Bureau of Statistics puts the estimated population of Onitsha at 500,000. . . . . . . . and Kano at 3,000,000.  |
Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 3:01pm On Jun 30, 2010 |
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Culture › Re: The Ika People{igbanke}. by ezeagu(m): 11:52pm On Jun 29, 2010 |
006: If I say I no tire, know say I dey lie. The whole thing tire me. Ngwa of all Ngwa!  Those that were born and bred in Ngwaland have never been this "aware". I wonder the origin of this, was it indoctrination or mere paranoia. Paranoia? The Igbo groups have never truly been gelled, they've acknowledge ancestry/commonalities but it's not like they haven't had various wars, especially the Ngwa  . Diversity comes at a price in this case, even villages have wars. That's not even going into village divisions. . . . . . . and then families.  Abagworo: are you sure this is not same in the entire southeast and soutsouth?in my village(not clan or subgroup) we had both nigerian and biafran officers.i think same goes with the entire igboland.SABOTEURS are everywhere. I don't think so. Which village in Imo, Abia or, most especially Anambra (Enugu included) will they return to? |
Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 11:43pm On Jun 29, 2010 |
ChinenyeN: I think you're making Ezeagu's point with this quote. He is highlighting on the inaccuracies of the 'Academia'. One minute they say it's one thing. The next, it's another. The 'Academia' is ever-changing and ever-re-interpreting. The very fact that the Ijo were ethnically grouped with the Eboe, and then later the Brass, then later as the Ijo is the point that Ezeagu is making. That is, of course, if I'm understanding correctly (am I understanding you correctly, Ezeagu?). Basically, 006 you cannot use the 'Academia' as a way to delimitate ethnic groups. All the 'Academia' is good for is marking [un]relatedness between two or more groups. Ethnicity is not determined by what the 'Academia' write. If it were, then ethnicities would be forever changing. Yes this was the point I was trying to make. 'Academia' doesn't even hide the fact that it is constantly changing/improving, changing is what it is. 006: You’re angle of the argument is a bit funny. So you want to tell me about Ijaws and Igbos and you went as far back as 1700’s and 1800’s when the Europeans had barely explored the whole of Africa and understood her peoples. When did the Europeans ever understand Africa's people? Why did they call you Eboe and then Ebo and then Iboe and then Ibo until you're now fighting to be recognised as Igbo if they understood African people? 006: My brother, come down to pre-independence, around 1940 – 1960. Where the Ijaws known as Ijaw/Ijo by the Europeans/colonial masters at this time? A Yes or a No answer would suffice. Why should I come down to pre-independence? 'Academia' didn't exist before 1940? If this is about the Ishan, they are a separate ethnic group, if you don't agree then it's fine. 006: Eri is not the known progenitor of the Igbos. Right? Right, Eri is the father of Nri who founded the villages that made the famous kingdom. |
Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 11:29am On Jun 29, 2010 |
006: Had you ever read about the Edo people?
When was Nigeria created? 1914 or 1960? *chuckles* Anyway, before our independence, Ijaw/Ijo was known as an ethnic group. What is there to read about the Edo people? The Ishan are Ishan, the Edo are Edo. If the Ishan are Edo, then by the same measure the Ika are Edo. The Nigerian protectorate (amalgamation of the Southern and Northern protectorate which were created in the 1800's) was created in the 1910's. The Ijaw were known as 'Brass tribes' in the 1800's and in the 1700's as 'Eboes' of the 'Eboe country', there are books with written accounts of men with 'large canoes in the Eboe country', the only two groups mentioned here are 'Eboes' and 'Bites'/'Calabaries'/'Mokos'. |
Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 6:19am On Jun 28, 2010 |
006: A beg, review the list before you start ranting! I didn't even realise you split the list into north and south. I was looking at north. My point still stands because of the Ishan and others. 006: For goodness sake, is the academia the same as our colonial masters and where on earth has Nigeria as a nation ever called the Ijaw Eboe?  There is no mention of Ijaw or Ijo any time before Nigeria's creation, many groups were joined under 'Eboe'. What the 'academia' says always changes. If a group is serious about being distinct and can prove it, things will be changed. |
Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 1:20am On Jun 28, 2010 |
006: @ ezeagu
Ishan/Eshan and Afemai are Edo speaking groups thus belong to Edo ethnic group.
One thing you should know is that no one speaks a language; instead everyone speaks a dialect of a language. It is imperative to find the language for which a given dialect belongs to. The problem we have in Nigeria is that before the Europeans came, many groups did not know that similar groups ever existed and thought that they were the only ones. When communication improved, similar groups were discovered and grouped together; some in those groups sometimes find it hard to accept the reality because the mentality was that they were the only ones.
For instance, an Ijebu or an Egba in those days may not know that he is a Yoruba until he was told so and when he actually listens to the language called Yoruba, he’ll find out that Ijebu or Egba are mere dialects of the bigger group. Some accepted without fuss, others refused to be group together with others; Don't let an Ishan hear you calling them Edo, on that note where is Urhobo/Isoko and Itsekiri? If these groups are going to be called Edo then the Ika should as well. Many groups did know others like them existed, not necessarily the scope, but there were trading routes and people all the way from a town like Owerre or Aba regularly travelled to Bonny, etc. You even see town names from the Igbo part of the west of the river Niger mimic those of the east of the river (e.g. Owerre). The thing is that in every ethnic group on earth, the subdivisions are never living in Harmony, see Scottish clans for instance who hold on to grudges that are hundreds of years old or Japanese towns who carry out honour killings. It's only when an alien group is met that their similarities become clearer to them, no one was pushing away the Igbo label in 1930. These problems between Igbo groups go down to the village; different communities regularly fall out of/create/enter other communities when they have conflict with their old federations, the Ika even have problems between towns. In Ebonyi two Igbo groups are having/had an all out war. 006: but their refusal cannot force the academia to group them separately because it’s irrational. Note that these groups may not necessarily have the same progenitor or migration but are grouped together based solely on language and similarity of culture. Same exists in Igbo, Ijaw and other groups.
The list I gave is what Nigerian government has and it’s not quite different from ethnic maps published by our colonial masters. The 'Academia' once called the Ijaw 'Eboe' along with the rest of the Igbo people. These ethnic groups, had they been in Europe or had they had at least 5 million members each, would have been grouped separately. After all English people and German people are both Germanic and share aspects of culture and language but they aren't an ethnic group. |
Culture › Re: The 250+ Tribes/ethnic Groups In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 4:13pm On Jun 27, 2010 |
006: In the Northern Nigeria, we have:
1 Angas 2 Bariba 3 Batta 4 Birom 5 Bussawa 6 Chamba 7 Dukawa 8 Edo 9 Gwari 10 Hausa 11 Idoma 12 Igala 13 Igbirra 14 Igbo 15 Jarawa 16 Jukun 17 Kambari 18 Kamuku 19 Kanuri 20 Kare 21 Katab 22 Longuda 23 Marghi 24 Mumuye 25 Ningawa 26 Nupe 27 Tangale 28 Tiv 29 Vkelle (Kukele) 30 Yoruba
Where Edo and Igbo have insignificant population in the North as they live mainly in the South. Ishan is a major ethnic group and it is missing from this list, which means there are other ethnic groups missing from this list. Ethnic groups in Nigeria may actually be 250+, that being said, the relationship and similarities between these groups is not indicated. What I'm trying to say is that not all groups in Nigeria have come together under a larger body to form an ethnicity. The Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa/Fulani could have easily had their divisions down to the towns represented as separate ethnic groups and they would have been able to defend their uniqueness because it exists, in fact some of those divisons are already listed as separate ethnic groups on that larger list. I don't believe there are hundreds of 'microscopic' tribes with completely different languages though. Let's look at the list of 250+ ethnic groups for an example for some possible relations: 49 Bilei Adamawa 50 Bille Adamawa I don't know if this is a spelling mistake that made one group seem like two (similar to Igbo, Ibo) but these two groups names are too similar to be completely different, especially as they are in the same location. Eket, Ekoi, Ibibio, Annang, Oron, Efik, Ejagham are an ethnic group, similar language and do not have any other variety apart from some parts of culture. Oron is a town and so is Eket. Ukwuani: 8 states are indicated as Igbo/partially Igbo which cover Ika, Ikwerre, Ogba, etc, yet Ukwuani is on the list as separate. The list is not trustworthy. 350 Waka Taraba: Some of these ethnic groups are even insulting the reader.  |
Culture › Re: The Ika People{igbanke}. by ezeagu(m): 9:55pm On Jun 22, 2010 |
agbotaen: NO TRUE IKA PERSON ,WANTS TO BE CALLED A BINI MAN OR AN IGBO MAN Let's say the truth, there are Ika people who say they are Igbo; Beni people call the Ika Igbo and the academic world calls them Igbo too. This is pretty much a very large opposition to the argument of Ika being a separate ethnicity, at least from 1900 and earlier. Let's not even forget that the Ika were named and had accepted two terms: 'Western Igbo' and 'Delta Ibo' (which most still accept). When the Europeans inhabited Agbor they called the inhabitants Igbo, they called the Ijaw Igbo the difference is the 'just-came-into-colonialism' Ijaw corrected them, why not the Ika? agbotaen: THE POINT IS THAT WE ARE IKAS, WE HAVE NEVER DENIED OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH IGBO OR OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH BENIN . Lets not say things too quickly now, the Ika have never denied their relationship with the Igbo? Is that true? agbotaen: THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BENIN AND IKA HAS EXISTED FOR HUNDRED OF YEARS ,IF NOT MORE , SOME TIMES THEY FIGHT WAR ,AGAINST EACH OTHER AND AT TIMES THEY ARE AT PEACE,IKA AND BENIN SHARE MANY SIMILARITIES AND TIES OF BROTHERHOOD.JUST AS WE ALSO SHARE WITH IGBOS IN SOME ASPECTS , I WILL LIST SOME . You should have elaborated over what they were fighting over. The Benin wanted to suppress the Ika and annex them into their Empire, which they were successful in doing and in like all situations of invasion the inhabitants have adopted a large part of the invaders culture, and lineage. agbotaen: 1. THERE ARE STILL SOME CHIEFTHANCY TITLES IN AGBOR TODAY, THAT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE , YOU MUST STILL GO TO BENIN AND GET SACRED CHALKS FROM ELDERS IN THE BENIN COMMUNITIY ,THEN IF THEY GIVE YOU THE NOD , THEN YOU GET THE TITLE IN AGBOR, THE REASON IS THAT THE PEOPLE OF THAT COMMUNITY IN AGBOR MIGRATED FROM THAT VILLAGE IN BENIN. 1. Okay, there's the Ozor title and red capping, next one. agbotaen: 2. ANOTHER AREA OF RELATIONSHIP THAT TIES IKA AND BENIN IS OBISHIP ( KINGSHIP) ,IKA KINGS ARE CROWNED IN THE BENIN USELU SYSTEM AND THAT STILL STRONGLY TIES BENIN AND AGBOR OR IKA TOGETHER AS RELATIVES. 2. Obi's are found as far as Onitsha, Aboh, etc. The origin of the 'Obi' title isn't definite yet anyway, it's not enough that it 'sounds' like 'Oba'. agbotaen: 3. CHIEFTHANCY STRUCTURE AND NAMES - IKA CHIEFTHANCY IS PATTERNED AFTER BENIN THREE STRUCTURE OF PALACE, TOWN AND HEREDITORY TITLES,THAT GOES UNDER BENIN NAMES LIKE OLIHEN,OVIA,OBASEKI,IHONDON,OLOGBOSHERE,OZOMOR ,IYASE AND OTHERS. 3. Again, this is hegemony, Benin was an empire so this is expected, but we should not look over older and more important titles like the ozor title. agbotaen: 4. THE PRESENT MONARCH OF AGBOR -DEIN OF AGBOR IS SAME BLOOD LINE FAMILY WITH THE PRESENT OBA OF BENIN,AND THERE IS STILL A TABOO,WHICH PROHIBITS ANY AGBOR ROYAL PRINCE FROM MARRYING A BENIN ROYAL PRINCESS.THIS WAS EVIDENT IN THE ROLE PLAYED BY THE OBA IN THE CROWNING OF THE PRESENT KING OF AGBOR -KIAGBOREKUZI , AND THE TRAINNING HE SUBSEQUENTLY RECEIVED IN THE BENIN ROYAL PALACE. 4. I didn't know about this, interesting. agbotaen: 5. TRADITIONAL RELIGION BINDS BENIN AND IKA TOGETHER AS IN THE PAST THEY WORSHIPPED MOSTLY SAME DEITIES AND PERFORMED SAME CEREMONIES TOGETHER LIKE IDIGUN, IKABA,IGBOSE,IGUE,IRUA,OVIA, AKE ,OHUMWEEDEN AND THEY BOTH PERFORMED IGUE FESTIVAL TOGETHER IN TIME PAST,AND UP TILL TODAY IGUE IS STILL THE MOST FAMOUS FESTIVAL OF IKA PEOPLE AND BINIS. 5. Lets not forget Ikenga and Ajana and the idea of Chi, Alusi, etc. agbotaen: 6. BENIN AND IKA HAD MANY SIMILAR CULTURES IN MARRIAGE, SHARING OF PROPERTIES,WAY OF LIFE AND STRUCTURE OF VILLAGE AND TOWNS -EBON(UMU),IDUMU AND OGBE, 6. This is probably true, although these are similarities. agbotaen: 7. THE BINIS AND IKAS SHARED SAME TRIBAL MARKS CALLED IGU IN IKA AND CALLED IWU IN BENIN . 7. I'm not sure about this, the idea of an Ika person with Benin marks. agbotaen: 8. THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BENIN AND IKAS ARE STILL VERY CLOSE AND EVEN THE BENIN OBA AND CHIEFS STILL COME TO IKA LAND TO SOME TIMES SHARE IN EXCHANGE OF RITUALS AND OTHERS THINGS , MANY IKAS STILL LEAVE IN BENIN TERRITORY AND THEY ARE NOT HARRASSED BUT ARE INTERGRATED INTO THE SCHEME OF THINGS WHILE WE ALSO HAVE MANY BINIS LEAVING IN IKA LAND TOO. 8. First of all the Agbor and Benin have a diplomatic relationship and not "very close", the Oba and Chiefs visits Agbor the same way how Queen Elizabeth II visits Australia, Canada or Jamaica. The Oba of Benin also sends gifts and messages to monarchs all over Igboland. There are Igbo people, I guess what you'll call the real Igbo living in Benin City and I don't think they're all dead yet. If the Edo and Ika are so loved up as you want to portray then tell me why the derogatory name 'Owe Igbo' exists or why Agbor wasn't sparred in the war? agbotaen: 9. IKA PEOPLE ALSO SHARE SAME NAMES WITH THE BINIS SUCH AS EHIJIE,OSAGIE,OBAIGBENA,OSABOHIEN,OSAIGBOBU, IZOJIE,ISIBOR ,IRABOR, E.T.C 10. THE BINIS AND IKAS CALLED GOD- OSENOBUE,OSELOBUE ,OSANOBUWA ,AND BELIEVE IN EHI AS GUARDIAN SPIRIT. 9, 10. You already mentioned Igbo names, Ehi is not as important as Eke, Orie, Afor, and Nkwo and the Obi or Dein of Agbor is called Ike[b]chuku[/b] not Ikeosolobue. agbotaen: HAVING SAID THIS WE ALSO HAVE SOME COMMON CULTURE WITH THE IGBOS ,LIKE . 1. AREA OF HAVING IKENGA DEITIES ,AND PERFORMING THE IWAGI( NEW-YAM) FESTIVAL, ALTHOUGH IKAS HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THEIR IWAGI OR OGBANIGBE. If there was ever a basic requirement for what an Igbo group is, it is the importance of yam. agbotaen: BUT AS IKA PEOPLE,WE HAVE COME TO KNOW THAT THE OLDEST THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITIES ARE THOSE LINKED TO BENIN. Like what? If the Benin were the migrants then why do the towns west of the Niger start to lose their Igbo names as you travel west? Shouldn't the Benin first migration mean that the towns should all have Benin names? The reason for this is Benin migration, not Igbo migration. Igbo culture had been cooking 5,500 years before Benin sprang up only a thousand and some hundred years ago. agbotaen: BUT HAVING SAID ALL THIS , WHAT THUS IT MEAN ,TO US, WE ARE IKAS AND WE WILL LIKE TO MAINTAIN OUR IDENTITY ,NO MAN OUTSIDE IKA LAND CAN TELL US WHO WE ARE ,SO AS IKAS WE KNOW WHO WE ARE WE ARE IKAS. Act it. Actions show different. agbotaen: IKAS HAVE NEVER SAID THEY WANT TO BE CALLED BINIS,NEITHER HAVE WE SAID WE WANT TO BE CALLED IGBOS, BUT WE SHOULD BE RESPECTED AS IKAS.A DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUP. This is the problem there is no general opinion about Ika identity, one minute somebody is saying their a Bini straight from Benin, the next minute Ika is a totally separate group which has been there for thousands of years. |
Politics › Re: Nigeria Is A Joke by ezeagu(m): 5:42pm On Jun 21, 2010 |
Litmus: @ezeagu (m)
Take it or leave it, descending into nitpicking every point wont change matters on the ground, suffice it to say i have experienced village life, poverty in towns, middle class life, upper-class life in Nigeria and foreign living too. Nigeria is not a place you can dismiss easily. In fact i am sure that many people who pronounce on Nigeria haven't set foot on Nigerian soil because as a Nigerian i can see where they're going wrong in trying to fabricate a reality which just does not stand. People are also fabricating reality by saying Nigeria isn't worse of than any other African country. It's annoying when people constantly complain about the country when they offer no solutions, but it is even more annoying when people act like the country is anything above a very low standard. Litmus: @ezeagu (m)
Take it or leave it, descending into nitpicking every point wont change matters on the ground, suffice it to say i have experienced village life, poverty in towns, middle class life, upper-class life in Nigeria and foreign living too. Nigeria is not a place you can dismiss easily. In fact i am sure that many people who pronounce on Nigeria haven't set foot on Nigerian soil because as a Nigerian i can see where they're going wrong in trying to fabricate a reality which just does not stand.
Actually, Ezeagu, whats eating you up? 
Are you a poor man suffering in Nigeria at the moment and angry because you're hungry?
did you loose personal family members to religious riots in the north and so you're bitter ?
are you a Humanist of the highest order and weep at the suffering, as you see it, of your fellow man?
what's gotten you so rabid? tell me and maybe i can help.
I mean, i can actually understand why a foreigner might want to disparage my country using derogatory images but not why a Nigerian would do so unless they have really biter experiences and even then i question why they would do so unless they are militant rebels wanting leadership role otherwise they would offer constructive ways forward. It's too easy to believe everyone criticising Nigeria is a foreigner. This is one of the excuses Nigerians always make when there's something wrong, start pointing outside to people who are not the problem. There are Nigerians who haven't been through anything but have sense enough to know Nigeria is a shame. I responded to people talking about Nigeria as if it is on a working level to ask them whether this is true, if wrong facts are going to be challenged then all of it should, including the one inflating Nigeria's achievements. sjeezy8: People in suburban America have the same "im not suffering mentality"- so why should Nigeria be any different. The USA is now a moral guide. sjeezy8: In lagos now there are growing communties from India, China ESP the Lebanese ,Benin, Togo, Sierra leone, Liberia etc . . So obviously theres something in Nigeria.  The Chinese have come to buy you.  I guess the Lebanese are coming to Nigeria for the health care?  |
Politics › Re: Nigeria Is Copying The United States by ezeagu(op): 5:15pm On Jun 21, 2010 |
tpiah: the eagle only means strength in england and north america- never in nigeria! Exactly!  |
Politics › Re: Nigeria Is A Joke by ezeagu(m): 3:09pm On Jun 21, 2010 |
Litmus: Nigerians arn't fools nor is Nigeria worst that any black African country. Nigeria is worse of than some black African countries. Litmus: Nigeria is a huge complex place, its economy perhaps far larger and more influential in the west Africa sub region than you would like to believe. What has Nigeria got to show for it's gigantic economy? Infrastructure? No. Standard of living? No. Litmus: Stereotyping has proved a powerful weapon in destroying African/black people’s but I sense Nigeria is rapidly passing the stage whereby demonisation is going to have any effect. All the hellholes, maggots, paedophiles, filths, garbage’s, scum of the earth remarks are beginning to sound hollow and desperate with overuse. They're sounding "hollow and desperate" because people are getting used to these levels of humanity, and we have people telling Nigerians that they are the 'biggest economy ever' so they don't have to criticise their country. maddock: Yes o, I agree with you but the Vashanis brothers are fightin tooth and nail to get back to this joke called Nigeria.Let's face its only people that can't survive that would call the country a joke. Even commedians and jokers like Ali baba,Basketmouth,Julius Agwu etc do not see the country as a joke. So all those that are surviving do not see Nigeria as a joke? Why would comedians paid thousands of dollars come out and say Nigeria is a joke? |
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by ezeagu(m): 3:56pm On Jun 20, 2010 |
oweniwe: Abi o. Dem ojukwu pickin mo de hear word. No be by force make person de answer igbo. If a hutu man say e no go answer hutu again coz of hutu genocide against tutsi, na im own wahala. Leave am alone.   |
Music/Radio › Re: Hit Songs You Don't Like by ezeagu(m): 11:38pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
careytommy: Akon- Oh Africa. it sounded too stereotypical. and to tink he is african!  Yes, from Senegal, music central and all he could play was an akuna matata rip off. |
Sports › Re: Cameroon Vs. Denmark 1 - 2 Final Score by ezeagu(m): 11:30pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
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Sports › Re: Cameroon Vs. Denmark 1 - 2 Final Score by ezeagu(m): 11:18pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
waladis: I LOVE MY COUNTRY, I NO GO LIE, NA INSIDE AM I GO LIVE AND DIE, IF HE PUSH ME SO, I PUSH AM SO, HE PUSH I PUSH AM I NO GO DIE
Ol' boy, sit back, relax, watch the show and give me the microphone so I can crumble like a cookie. You are damn missing a lot not being a true Nigeria, being a true Nigeria and to be patriotic means you must be able to embrace without prejudice the failure and success of your country. Una, u need to fall in other to stand Patriotism does not mean you should not criticize your country! |
Sports › Re: Cameroon Vs. Denmark 1 - 2 Final Score by ezeagu(m): 11:06pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
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Sports › Re: Cameroon Vs. Denmark 1 - 2 Final Score by ezeagu(m): 10:59pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
waladis: Curse kee? Amadiora na new play station 3 boxing game ooooo, no be curse ooooo. But that SLAP sha,.,.,., I mean am  What do you know about patriotism? Did you watch the last England game where they were booed by people in red and white? For me patriotism isn't about mindless defending of a country, neither is it about doing nothing while in a state of denial. You two are in denial and are probably less productive, in fact you are less productive than those you think are cursing Nigeria. |
Politics › Re: Presidency: Northern Leaders Want Zoning Till 2047 by ezeagu(m): 10:55pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
Good luck with Nigeria still existing in 2047. . . . |
Sports › Re: Cameroon Vs. Denmark 1 - 2 Final Score by ezeagu(m): 10:50pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
waladis: Na Amadiora go hammer that your yeye mouth, up or down, good or bad Oyinbo will still be at the back of their own country. That's what is called Patriotism. You really deserve a thunder slap by fire Hiiiiii,.,. GBOSAAAAAAA,.,.,., Hiiiiii,.,. GBOSAAAAAAA,.,.,., Hiiiiii,.,. GBOSAAAAAAA,.,.,., I beg @bezuugee, please follow me slap this Malo brother
https://www.manysmileys.com/files/S/wy/bE/SwybEwsE15559789.gif Is this curse to me? |
Sports › Re: Cameroon Vs. Denmark 1 - 2 Final Score by ezeagu(m): 10:44pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
buzugee: me and you, mano au mano. name the place and time. put your dukes up son. lets do this. i have a butt whooping with your name written all over it ezeagu. lets dance foo  I can't fight with handicapped people, especially when their handicap has to do with missing a vital organ. . . . . |
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by ezeagu(m): 10:40pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
You guys should leave Delta Igbo alone; go and stay with your Mountain Igbo if you're from the Enugu area, your River Igbo if you're around the areas of the Cross River, Anambara River or Imo River, your Atlantic Ocean Igbo if you're from the Port Harcourt area, your Forest Igbo if you're from the center east of Igboland, You're Sand Igbo if you're from the Northern Ebonyi area and your Rice Igbo if you're from the Abakaleke area. Other minorities like the Coal Igbo, Eastern Delta Igbo and Niger Igbo are also included!  |
Sports › Re: Cameroon Vs. Denmark 1 - 2 Final Score by ezeagu(m): 10:31pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
buzugee: matta fact i think its time for me to form a company called SLAP AN UNPATRIOTIC NIGERIAN ON SIGHT. we shall go around slapping nigerian folk who are unpatriotic. i think i might do that. open the headquarters in oshodi. I think 'People Who Can't handle the Truth' or 'Problem Dodgers' would be a better suited name. buzugee: SLAP DEY HUNGRY YOU ?  Is this some kind of mental thing where you actually want to slap yourself for your countries inferior position on the world stage, or is this Nigerian patriotism in action? |
Sports › Re: Cameroon Vs. Denmark 1 - 2 Final Score by ezeagu(m): 10:17pm On Jun 19, 2010 |
buzugee: and your point is ?  3 fingers are pointing back. . . . . |
Politics › Re: REFERENDUM - THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR NIGERIA! by ezeagu(m): 12:36am On Jun 18, 2010 |
killayut: Rumuigbo and Rumuibekwe are not Port harcourt . They are simply Rumuigbo and Rumuibekwe just as Igwurita and Omagwa and Elele and choba are not PH. ABULOMA is not PH too JUST AS DIOBU or Ebisi is not PH. These are different towns that have joined togther due to development. If Diobu is not Port Harcourt then which one is Port Harcourt? |
Politics › Re: Nigeria Is Copying The United States by ezeagu(op): 12:31am On Jun 18, 2010 |
tpiah: @ ezeagu
go back and reread one of my initial posts on this thread where i asked you to post other's countries' seals!!!!!
gosh, i cant believe this!!!!
and kindly explain how and why you're splitting hairs over this quote:
so "cream of kingdom/society" and "strength" are opposites? mutually exclusive? How did "most beautiful bird" turn into "the bird represents strength"? I think it is you that needs to exit the thread because you're not doing anything sensible. The word 'strength' is not even in the quote! If someone wears snake skin does that make it representative of strength? See how you want twist something for yourself, instead of admitting the obvious.  Again, the eagle is not representative of strength in Nigerian cultures, the quote even said if anything it is representing beauty! |
Politics › Re: Nigeria Is Copying The United States by ezeagu(op): 5:33pm On Jun 17, 2010 |
tpiah: the more i reread your posts the more flabbergasted i get.
i think you're just trying to pull everyone's legs here. Mine in particular.
in achebe's things fall apart (i assume you've read it), did you notice the proverb "let the kite perch and let the eagle perch. whoever says the other should not perch, let his wing break"
in addition, have you ever heard of the ozo title in Igboland? feathered cap?
Igbo proverb:
Aka a na-ana dike bu itube ya (abuba) ugo.
Lit: Appropriate handshake for the valiant is to cap him with an eagle (feather).
Exp: Noble deeds should be appreciated
i hope you understand the reason why i'm so dumbfounded? I'm not Igbo but i'm teaching you and kobojunkie about Igbo culture? Please, don't come and tell me the eagle is THE animal that stands for strength in Igboland, I am the last person you are going to convince with that argument. There are proverbs about all animals, but the eagle is not the animal representative of strength, you know this, so stop with this rubbish. The eagle is the highest bird and its feathers are hard to get, that does not translate to it being representative of strength in cultures, because it's not other animals are, if you don't believe me check the mascot for the Nigerian Police and Nigerian Airways. Nigeria copied "eagle for strength" from America, you're even making this argument stronger. tpiah: ^^are you now trying to deny being Igbo? 
stop running around the mulberry bush in an attempt to pretend you understand anything.
if after everybody's attempts to educate you on the symbolism associated with the NIGERIAN eagle, you insist on bullheadedly rejecting every single explanation you were given, then just quit the thread!
for your perusal:
philipine coat of arms
now, go and look up the meaning of "resemblance" Again what is this trying to prove? That if another country copies it is then okay for Nigeria to copy? Of course that bird is copied, yes, now what was your point? Are you aware of the relationship between America and the Philippines? Here: Bald Eagle of the United States and Lion-Rampant of Spain (the charge of Kingdom of Leon) were removed in 1998, but the change has not been implemented pending ratification by national referendum. In the blue field on the left side is the Eagle of the United States, and in the red field on the right is the Lion-Rampant of Spain, both representing colonial history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_the_Philippines When was Nigeria a colony of the United States? Nigeria should now carry on copying without their own ideas because some far distant country copies an eagle on their coat of arms with real symbolism behind it? At the same time you're trying to defend Nigeria like this when Nigeria has an American bald eagle representing the head of its highest organisation, A bald eagle with no colonial history with America? Posting supposed copies from other countries does nothing for Nigeria's defense. |