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PoliticsRe: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ezeagu(m): 10:29pm On Oct 24, 2015
Please see my reply to Igbo people overdoing it when it comes to riverine communities. https://www.nairaland.com/2686704/biafra-igbo
PoliticsRe: Ibeto Cement To Build $386m Plant in Enugu by ezeagu(op): 9:34pm On Oct 24, 2015
Even more reason to fix transport connectivity and possibly revive Port Harcourt or Ugwu Ocha port.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 8:26pm On Oct 24, 2015
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 8:26pm On Oct 24, 2015
ChinenyeN:
Ochi lei.. Ezeagu won't stop with this 'segzy' ordeal.
https://s24.postimg.org/4daa8dm2d/200_s.gif
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 8:22pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
Igbo izugbe is fine enough and it has served it's purpose.
Buh is it segzy?
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 8:10pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
It isn't. It's a combination of consonants holding hands together obstructing the vocal track.
Okay, O wu ihe ị shi? Ngwanu suwazie okwu Owerri ma o wu Izugbe. Now, is tha segzy enuf now?
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 8:02pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
That Ifeanyi whatever is inconsequential. There are many iheanyis all over Southern igbo.
No one has any authority to suggest anything to non onitsha igbo speakers. The dialect itself is strange in my ears,sorry. EOD!
Fa ncha na nị ndi Onicha, mana fa ncha ji omalicha asusu Onicha we je mba. Isn't that segzy. Lol.
PoliticsRe: Ibeto Cement To Build $386m Plant in Enugu by ezeagu(op): 7:57pm On Oct 24, 2015
eyeview:
Am not into tribal sentiments but am sure this topic won't make frontpage. Had it been about how an igbo boy was caught with drugs someone somewhere will shoot it to straight to the frontpage for reasons best known to him or her.
Let's try. Lalasticlala, Seun, Ishilove, a positive story for the front page.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 7:27pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
I don't. That is not the main point.
These examples still doesn't give Onitsha igbo the platform to become an igbo izugbe.
That's why I said I wasn't suggesting anything, because this thread is ultimately setting up the question:

ezeagu:
I guess the next question is, how can Standard Igbo be strengthened as standard for Igbo instead of random dialects replacing it?
*If there should be a standard at all.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 7:18pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
Still deviation. For God sake,i know a million iheanyis in Imo state. Drop that suggestion of yours,it ain't going nowhere.
Do you know a million Nkihukas, or Oruchi? That's the main point.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 7:06pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
It still doesn't prove any point,you where hampering on actors originally. Onitsha people are not the only people that use ife etc.
People in Southern Igbo still use Iheanyi instead of Ifeanyi,those are only little deviations not the norm.
No one names their child Nkihuka or Oruchi, the forms of these names are almost always with the 'l' instead of the 'r' and the 'f' instead of the 'h'. Several examples of this can be found including the one I gave of the Ika governor of Delta State who goes by Ifeanyi instead of Iheanyi. It has already been noted that there's a lean towards Onitsha despite the presence of Izugbe so that point is already done, what I was trying to show you was examples of where Onitsha Igbo has been preferred, and a simply proven example of names shows a verifiable preference of Onitsha terms. I would agree with ChinenyeN, though, to say that when writing Igbo Izugbe is used more, and maybe that's because of education.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 6:50pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
No more actors again? You see your life? Those are exceptions, many people go with their Ihe/ihu lects.
I'm not searching through list of actors to prove the point, that's why I used the names, which is a glaring example of how people have picked up Onitsha Igbo dialect even in a small sense. I've heard Iheanyi and so on, but Ifeanyi and the like are much more popular. Even Ifeanyi Okowa who is Ika who use 'ihe' instead of 'ife'.
PoliticsRe: Ibeto Cement To Build $386m Plant in Enugu by ezeagu(op): 6:46pm On Oct 24, 2015
IGBOSON1:
^^^I love him as if he were a blood brother!

Anyone know of any substantial project Orji Uzor Kalu has anywhere in the South East!? Afterall they do tell us he's on Forbes (Nigeria) richest list, so i'd expect there's a multi-million dollar investment of his somewhere in the South East that we're yet to know of!
You mean the person that impoverished Abia State or another Kalu?
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 6:42pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
Who are not from Onitsha but are from somewhere close to Onitsha and generally use the onitsha igbo dialect.
Okay let me give you a better example, do you not know people from non 'l' speaking regions, maybe even your homeland, that answer names like Ifeanyi, Oluchi, Nkiru? That's just a small example.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 6:28pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
I asked you to list the actors. If i go into nollywood,am not gonna speak what i don't know unless it's a regional igbo movie like Nwa nsukka and the rest. Be specific.
I can't list the actors, I can post a selection of random films with people who are not all from Onitsha.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 6:26pm On Oct 24, 2015
I guess the next question is, how can Standard Igbo be strengthened as standard for Igbo instead of random dialects replacing it?
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 6:24pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
You can't just wake up one morning and start speaking Onitsha igbo. We have already discussed about the place and importance of Onitsha in Igbo history,i wouldn't go back to that.
Pls list the Imo actors that speak onitsha igbo in movies.
True. Most of the ones that act in Igbo films.

Also it's not just a 'southern' Igbo 'northern' Igbo thing, it's specifically Onitsha Igbo or related and others.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 6:19pm On Oct 24, 2015
And I would say there are also people who find it annoying when people in their community start forming Onitsha as well.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 6:15pm On Oct 24, 2015
ChinenyeN:
Let me understand, are you using 'Onitsha' as a general term for 'northernizing' one's speech? i.e. consciously switching from /h/ to /f/, as an example? If that's the case, then I can understand this statement. I've seen this happen, but it typically happens when /h/-speakers communicate with /f/-speakers and almost never when /h/-speakers communicate with /h/-speakers. In fact most /h/-speakers will tell you that they feel as though they have to go out of their way for /f/-speakers for two reasons:
1) /f/-speech is practically the only thing /f/-speakers have any real familiarity with.
2) /f/-speakers pretty much never go of their way to switch for /h/-speakers.
The general consensus is that most /f/-speakers would be lost when interacting with /h/-speakers. So, for the sake of intelligibility and to cut down time, /h/-speakers will go out of their way for /f/-speakers. However, in literary communication, that is not the case. Izugbe or Central becomes the mode of speech by which /h/-speakers communicate with /f/-speakers, and you will rarely ever see an /h/-speaker make that switch from /h/ to /f/, unless out of some courtesy or playfully.
Kind of, I wouldn't say 'northern' because Northern includes Nsukka, Anam, and so on and those dialects are nothing like Onitsha. I use Onitsha as a general term for Onitsha Igbo and the environs. Let me be even franker, there are people who deliberately change their dialects to sound more like Onitsha Igbo even if they are speaking to their own people who speak a different dialect, even if it's a small minority. But I would say that it is true that people who use 'h' tweak their accents more for people who speak 'f'.

Ihuomadinihu:
It's never that. Both will use a central Igbo izugbe that waters down their respective igbo dialects.
People in places like Agbor interact more with people who speak dialects like Onitsha including Aniocha people who are basically the same as Onitsha people. They don't really have the access to Igbo Izugbe like other places mostly over the Niger, what they and outsiders learn is the Onitsha Igbo or similar. You can't water down some dialects enough to fit Izugbe.

Some people in some communities in so called southern Igboland are surprised when people born outside of their region speak the dialect.

Ihuomadinihu:
@Ezeagu this is what i'm trying to explain. I interact with Onitsha igbo speakers on daily basis and we all maintain our izugbes during conversations.
Stop giving out a false and unfounded impression on this thread.
It's not really false, I haven't heard any film that was made in Igbo Izugbe for example, I've seen actors who are form Imo State, for example, use an Onitsha dialect even if they struggle with it.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 5:58pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
Ozuola nu. At the end of the day,nobody is adopting Onitsha igbo as the standard igbo izugbe. And nobody is adopting SCI in Onitsha as a standard dialect unless you want to learn and facilitate a conversation.
@Op you no try for this suggestion at all.
I'm not suggesting anything.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 5:57pm On Oct 24, 2015
NRIPRIEST:
I don't really care about what is spoken in Sountern Igbo land because I am not from there,yet I wouldn't like a situation whereby Anambra dialect is being corrupted by the influence of Igbo Izugbe or whatever the crap they call it. I know the structure of Igbo Izugbe is based on the Onicha/Idenmili axis but the pronunciation of the words represents what is spoken in southern Igbo land. And that is very dangerous!
But Anambra is a 20 years old state that's diverse itself, do you mean Onitsha?
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 5:56pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
Ezhiokwu? Where did you carryout this research? I've not come across that before.
It's either that or pidgin, some minority may know Igbo Izugbe or something like it.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 5:44pm On Oct 24, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
Before this,till now, Agbor to Aro use Onitsha dialect. When?
If somebody from Agbor and Aro spoke to each other, they usually use Onitsha Igbo.
PoliticsRe: A Comparison Between The Benin People And The Igbo People Based On Nigerias Hist by ezeagu(m): 5:29pm On Oct 24, 2015
atbu1983:
I am Esan. we share boundary with Anioma people of Delta state. You even have Ekpon who are both Esan and Anioma at d same time. They are bilingual. Most of the migrant from Benin Empire that form most of d today Anioma are esan. That is why Esan, ika, ukwuani and other Anioma people look alike.

Esan are descendant of Bini.
Do you mean all or just the ones from Benin?
PoliticsRe: A Comparison Between The Benin People And The Igbo People Based On Nigerias Hist by ezeagu(m): 5:19pm On Oct 24, 2015
lygn19:
(1) trying to rewrite there history with the grand plan of making the gullible ones beleive they are from Benin.
No Benin person is telling any apparent Igbo person they are from Benin, it is the so called Igbo people themselves from Onitsha to Agbor that point at least some of their ancestry to Benin, which is partly true, while another minority deny being Igbo entirely which is without any Benin or Bini intervention whatsoever. So called 'Igbo deniers' should accept responsibility for themselves.
PoliticsRe: Is Biafra Igbo? by ezeagu(op): 4:50pm On Oct 24, 2015
dmz1:
under no circumstance should ikwerre and Ijaw be allowed into Biafra. it is even preferable for idoma to be included in Biafra than those misguided groups.
Have you communicated this to other pro-Biafrans?
PoliticsRe: Ibeto Cement To Build $386m Plant in Enugu by ezeagu(op): 4:34pm On Oct 24, 2015
Digitron:
Good news!
The Igbo should start investing on their home soil. kudos to ibeto
Yes. It's common sense really.
PoliticsIbeto Cement To Build $386m Plant in Enugu by ezeagu(op): 4:25pm On Oct 24, 2015
China’s Sinoma International Engineering Co., Ltd, a wholly owned subsidiary of Zhejiang Sinoma Engineering Design & Research Institute Co., Ltd. has announced that it has recently signed a contract on a cement project worth $386 million with Nigeria’s Ibeto Cement Co

In a corporate notice, the company stated that the project area is located in Enugu, Nigeria. Scope of the contract includes a Nissan 6000 tons of cement clinker production line from crushing limestone mining, cement raw materials to packaging, shipped to the whole process and a 45MW captive power plant, covering engineering design, equipment, steel and material supply, civil works, installation, commissioning and personnel training.

The project cost is estimated at $ 386,000,000.
http://naija247news.com/2015/10/chinas-sinoma-parnters-nigerias-ibeto-cement-to-build-386-mln-plant-in-enugu/

Sinoma International Engineering Co Ltd has signed a contract on a cement project worth $386 million with Nigeria’s Ibeto Cement Co. The project is to be located in Enugu in South East Nigeria. In a statement released on Wednesday, China’s sinoma said the scope of the contract will include a 6000 ton of clinker cement…
http://businessdayonline.com/2015/10/ibeto-cement-signs-386-mln-contract-with-sinoma-for-enugu-plant/

(Anyone have access to business day online?)

Sinoma International Engineering's new Nigerian contract

Sinoma International Engineering Co Ltd has recently entered into an engineering, procurement and construction contract for a 6000tpd clinker cement production line and a power plant with Ibeto Cement Co Ltd in Nigeria, worth US$386m.

This project is located in Enugu area of Nigeria. The contract covers the whole process from exploitation of limestone mines and crushing of raw materials to packing and delivery of cement, together with a 45MW self-generation power plant, including engineering design, supply of equipment, steelwork and materials, civil construction, installation and staff training.

http://www.cemnet.com/News/story/157842/sinoma-international-engineering-s-new-nigerian-contract.html
PoliticsRe: Facebook Is Banned In China So The Youths Can Be Productive. by ezeagu(m): 4:20pm On Oct 24, 2015
christinie:
I won't banter words with you. I can only try to enlighten you. If you like you learn, if not no problem.
Most Chinese first do some menial jobs that the likes of you can't touch with 10 inches pole to raise capitals eg some of them sweep, some work in the restaurants, some are sales boys/girls, some are commercial cyclist (yes okada!), some are commercial bicycle riders, some are keke riders, some sell things on the road side, some roast goat/pork/chicken/lamb/beef etc. When they do these works they are very focused because they have a target. Once they raise capital they start trading. When they trade for some years they go into manufacturing.
They have a target because they are a 5000+ year old nation. Nigeria is a false/forced amalgamation of different nations.
PoliticsRe: Photos: Amaechi Be Like. by ezeagu(m): 2:48pm On Oct 24, 2015
DuchessLily:
U see what I meanhuh? undecided

Its so sad... Really sad sad
You shouldn't have replied the idiot.
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Is Not Just A Man, He Is A god. by ezeagu(m): 2:30pm On Oct 24, 2015
Freedom of religion is a human right I believe. You're free to open a church for his sorry His worship.

This is why Nigeria will remain where it is.
CultureRe: Should Onitsha Igbo Be Igbo Izugbe? by ezeagu(op): 1:29pm On Oct 24, 2015
Onitsha Igbo is popular today because of the strategic point where Onitsha is, especially between the Niger, and also because of its economic power and the power of those towns that surround it. I say this because the 'southern' Igbo that speak Onitsha dialect as their main language have usually travelled around there to work and have retained the dialect even though they can still speak their own dialect. It's even kind of the same for people who go to Enugu which uses an Onitsha-like dialect because the people who populated there as coal miners were from towns in Anambra.

Igbo Izugbe does sound like some Umuahia and northern Abia dialects that has been mixed with Onitsha and generalised. When you hear a generalised Umuahia dialect, you hear Igbo Izugbe for the most part. But before this, and till now, many people from Agbor to Aro, use Onitsha to communicate with each other. If somebody from Bende met somebody from Aniocha they'd probably use Onitsha Igbo because it has become a common ground.

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