₦airaland Forum

seanet01: Pot calling kettle black.
Rochas should just go and face the 49 billion naira loan he misappropriated or looted.
Why did he waited for this time before coming out with this one sided story.
Not defending ohakim o. I know he is the same looter that Rochas is.
Rochas did you actually stole funds meant for the aviation sector?
Blink you need to get some check up.

How did that happen? As a minister, Perm Sec, contractor to the aviation sectors? Not doubting you, just my first of hearing, just interested in knowing.

Nightshift: I am not running away from the issue i raised , but i also noticed that it's a very sensitive issue. I don't want to dwell further on this here. If you are so curious , just talk to anybody in party executives in the East how the issue i raised affects the party's nomination of its flag bearers in the East.

Then stop raising issues you can't talk to the end. irrespective of your so-called sensitivity, especially when you are anonymous on an online forum. Sensitive to who exactly? I don't know the Igboland you are talking about in 2013.

Gambrosia: Please, can the process of dillusion replace Packed RBCs or whole blood components in the event of massive blood loss?
If so, how does this work?
Considering that most patients with HYPOVOLEMIC/cardiogenic/septic shock may already be in DIC and third-spacing.

For example, it is the basic resuscitative principle that: blood should replace blood and crystalloid should be used for vomiting and dehydration.

What substitutes can BLOOD have vis-a-vis dillution?

http://www.aic.cuhk.edu.hk/web8/shock.htm

Crystalloids?

Telling you how dillusion is more technical for Nairaland forum and haven't go the appetite going deep into that. This is information age, why not look it up. The first time I saw it used in a surgery was in Ohio in 191 and I personally used it in London in 1995 an dit had got better as time progresses. Blood has no subtitute. But the term lose of blood doesn't mean that blood completely dry up in your system.
In a lay term, what I can say now is that the process of dillusion increases the volume of what blood that remain in the system with aid of a synthetic substance, I cant mention. So you have a high volume of blood, what lack the the normal quality of blood on the interim.
Again in a lay terms, Its like topping up your half bottle of sweet wine to get a full bottle, but lost some of it original taste and alcohol volume.

T9ksy: Egbe ni e! You are a 1st class olodo with huge comprehension deficit. Didn't you see where i wrote that i don't

give a rat's a.rse what leadership crises may arise in the futuristic land of the rising sun?

Yes o, am more concerned with my region and its planned development.

Btw, i hope you guys actualised your biafra and take your riff raffs in my region, with you.

You not giving a rats a.rse is hardly my concern as you are talking to the wrong person. You should be talking to one of your brothers that has addiction to Biafra. Tell him to mind what happens in Oduduwa if Nigeria break, bevause you don't give a rat's a.rse what happens in Biafra. I am not the one that posted the thread, to be knocking me with your a.rse.
My people said that you can't leave the backside that farted and start knocking on the innocent head.

Nightshift: I'm not from Imo State, i don't know . What i'm alluding to is that no ethnic nationality has ever developed with the kind of culture we have in Igboland.

You started the generalization and then when you're pushed to explain your weird theory, you bulked, claiming non Imo. Is Imo not part of Igboland? I don't even know exactly what you are talking about.

Dzzbabe: please u guyz should let the guy be, he went for a major surgery u dont expect to rush and come back do u, let him finish his check ups and all,,

No kind of surgery will keep you in the hospital for more than 3 weeks, unless the patient developed a serious infection after the surgery, if at all he did went for a surgery as being speculated.


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Nightshift: Political positions in parties in Igboland are still reserved for a particular caste. Talk to party executives in Igboland to find the truth. A culture as old as hell can not be denied , or can it?

What caste does Achike Udenwa belongs to, as you are in the mode to educate?

Nightshift: There is a culture of exclusion(Osu Ndigbo) in Igboland that could bring up a big division and disaffection in a new Biafra. It's a cultural-self annihilation that must be discussed as an Igbo National security threat. There is no bases for peace in an ethnic nationality with a two class society. The evil culture is a bombshell that will shake Igboland someday. Historically speaking, to say the least.

The class must be in your head. I don't know the part of Igbo you are talking about in 2012, not 1205.

Why are you so worried about another man's headache? Shouldn't you be worried about about factions of Oduduwa that will emerge, like Ijebus vs Egbas, Ife vs Ogbomosho, Akure vs Modakeke, Tinubu group vs OBJ group, Alafin Kingdom vs Oni Kingdom, Gani Adam soldiers vs Faseheun Soldiers and those still ruled by a Fulani Emir based in Ilorin, to be worried about Biafra affairs?
By the way! where have you been since the news broke about your elderly brother turned cocaine mule who use to play guitar for Sunny Ade caught with coke in his suitcase?
We are still waiting for your contribution, but here you are worrying about Biafra, that you had told us was I pipe dream.
Very strange!

miredia: hey I was being silly, I am not questioning the authenticity of your MD status, but your suggestion of an EPO as a RBC booster and expecting a spontaneous erythropoiesis in the event of an acute blood loss is not totally applicable except offcourse if administered as an ESA which is offtopic. The apricot and fig you spoke about is a long term therapeutic approach.

This is not a silly issue. If you read my first post I stated clearly that we use the process of called dillusion in the event of great blood lost as the first procedure. I had treated a JW Blood count of two after a lengthy quadraplaty surgery. And he regained enough blood yo push the count to 12 within 13 days, enough to do three more plastic surgeries few days later.

Afolabs101: GENOCIDE is an extremely weighty allegation to throw against someone. If Abati-GEJ-Govt is saying Obj committed genocide, shouldn't they at least question him for it? Erm SSS anybody?

I bet you Abati will eat his words!!

#quotedoutofcontext

I thought genocide is legal in Nigeria? Some white man lingo?

Good on you Phd Abati.
You are really earning your dollar bruv!
As I always say, to know the true temperament of a dog, just throw him a bone and then watch.
I was made to believe that only we Igbo people likes money, while others hated it so much, because this Abati guy must be an Igbo man in disguise.
Most Nigerians feeds better than Jonathan That explain his wive's unexplained illnesses! lack of proper feeding.
Abati! What a clownish comedian!

When will Nigerians react to anything based on the facts of the matter rather than already programmed like or dislike of people involved. In as much as I believe that GEJ is a rubbish president and inept politician, there is no doubt they have got a point here.

One minute OBJ is saying that this govt is not tough enough like he was in Odi, while playing to the domestic audience, then while playing to the international audience, he resorted to carrot treatment. I can't remember him dialoguing with Odi people he massacred. Its either he is confused or he is what he has always been, a hypocrite.
I can't understand why anyone will even say that he is right, just because you don't like the messenger and his boss.

abrat: No doubt Buhari is a politician who is power hungry. But as I would have loved to comment further, I noticed the link is not active.

I love commenting based on facts & from my political sagacity I would say the op is garrulous.

Which politician is not power hungry, if not why in politics? Its like saying that a football striker is goal hungry, what else should he be?

omenziate: Casillas sef dey very unserious. Ramos over Ronaldo.?

Voting in a everything is based on personal likes/choice. Your best food may cause another person to puke. There was a year, I thought Thierry Henry is a sure banker to win it but he didn't but came second. But in the end, majority vote earner wins. Thats put to bed conspiracy theorist of Blatter and the award. But conspiracy theorist always tend to talk to themselves and believes whatever themselves tells them.

Troll: The Way This Voting Is Being Done Nowadays; An African Will Never Win The Fifa Ballon D'Or. No Matter How Spectacular He Is On The Pitch. The Europeans Will Always Vote For Their Own. The Public Should Be Given Voting Power Or Else This Is Just Plainly Sentimental Bulshit. Imagine!?

George Weah won it or is it European player of the year? and he is from bloody Liberia not from Russia. And doesn't African has more fifa member nations twice more to that of South America, where Messi comes from?

miredia: . Do the Jehovah witnesses reject autologous transfusion as you pointed out or allogeneic transfusion? Because I do not see any logic in refusing a reinsertion of your own blood. I can reckon with the homologous transfusion. Knowing someone who suffered a severe anaphylactic reaction and hemolysis after consecutive series of allogeneic transfusion,probable cause could have being an igA deficiency in her blood creating her own antibodies reacting with anti IgA of the donor platelets or RBC. @dr. Eziache you sound detached from conventional medicine and more inclined to homeopathy.

What is conventional and what is homeopathy? I have forgotten, please educate me, I may have forgotten and detached unknown.

toluene12: I understand your stand on blood transfusion, but some of ur claims are bogus and coming from a surgeon is quite disturbing.
1. Not all cases of blood loss requires blood transfusion, most chronic anaemia are managed with blood substitute except in few cases. Even in acute blood loss mild cases are treated with plasma expanders and oxygen, so STOP making it seem like nigerian doctors dont know what they are doing and are only interested in forcing blood down the throat of all their patients.
2. Provide studies/evidence (not opinion) that shows clearly that blood transfusion kills more lifes than it saves otherwise retract the statement.
3. That the commonest route of contacting hepatitis and HIV in the u.k is via blood transfusion says a lot about the nhs labs in that country and that to me is a very serious mystery.
4. Just like every other medical procedure, blood transfusion has its own risk and complication, the blood substitutes also have side effects and complications, so stop painting one like a saint and the other a demon.
5. Acute blood loss is not an indication for EPO therapy, and blood transfusion in cases of severe blood loss produces immediate response and not 48hrs as u alighted
5. I agree efforts are being made to provide alternatives to blood transfusion, trials are ongoing and initial result is encouraging e.g synthetic hemoglobin concentrates but will the jw people embrace this new technologies? At least they rejected autologous blood transfusion
6. Stem cell transplantation is good but there are moral and ethical factors to consider, these cells produce the blood cells in contention, and if the jw can refuse the offsprings will they accept the precursors. Moreover, they dont come cheap, and are not useful in the mgt of acute blood loss.
We may not like it but blood products replacements remains a viable option in saving patients life in our hospitals, at least for now.

Please I don't want you to twist my words over my mention of EPO because I clearly stated how its been used after some big bloodless surgeries, to boost haemoglobin production and how certain foods do help the body metabolism to achieve this aim. I never told you that you give a patient some EPO or ask a patient to chew some Apricot on the operating table.
Again your statement on JWs rejecting autologous transfusion is also a misleading statement based on speculation without facts because I had treated some in the past that accepted it, that is why I mentioned on my first post that, against general believes on the street, that JW members do not and had never had a blanket law forced on their members to refuse blood, but its down to all individual members as to what they prefer, I can only speak for what I had experience over 30 years of treating them. If its different in Nigeria, I have no idea. But their belief is very clear on the issue of transfusion.

They have what they call HLC, which I understood to mean hospital liaison committee (JW guys can help me out here on this one), whose job are to make sure that their members wishes are respected in the event of unconsciousness and I had never witness them talking in any manner to force them to refuse or accept blood. In any case, autologous transplant is needless since they accept blood salvaging procedure which are more effective based on experience. The only problem being that we haven't got enough people with know how to operate the machine, in England as I know and far worst in Scotland.

If you know any JW, talk to them, I am sure they will likely give you a very good picture about this blood thing than what you read in the press, which as medical person, I knew its most of the time tabloid sensationalism without any hard fact. I still give people blood, but only if its really required and if the person wants it. Since 1989, its now a standard practice for surgeons and aestheticians in the U.K to tell their patients that they will use transfusion therapy with them, since people, mostly non JW people (believe or not) started suing the NHS and winning millions in compensation for giving them transfusion without their consent, especially when thing goes wrong with transfusion (which happen more often that most people realises)
I am in no way discouraging anyone not to take blood if they need to, but personally I would not take one when their are much improved alternatives today, but its a question of choice and this is not borne out of my religious conviction but strictly health issues.
But I do respect JW people a lot, who stood by their beliefs even when thing are tough, unlike others that preach that they are going to heaven, but do whatever they can when things are rough, forgetting about how nice they said heaven is to live but non wants to die. (Just a joke )

[quote author=star*]Really? research is close? How close are you talking? Please! Organ and blood donation is still at critical levels in the uk! People are dying everyday waiting for organs. Do you work for the nhs? Are you aware what financial crisis they're in? What levels of extra money will it take for funding all these 'artificial' organs and platelets?

Also more serious moral questions are being raised with stem cell research., growing human fertilised eggs in petri dishes to get the DNA used for growing organs.[/quote]When I said something is close in terms of research, I don't mean that you will wake up tomorrow morning and bang it there. Based on where we were say 20-30 years ago, non blood transfusion procedures are not far off but I can't give you a date. my good friend and no one can.

I attend conferences and workshops each year and listen directly to experts and research fellows in these fields. So I am talking based on what I knew is a fact and experience.

As regarding stem cells, which will allow us in future to grow organ parts, the stage we are now had well over advanced, far more than where we were even five years ago.
You must have heard last week about a successful limb transplant, it was sort of an experimental procedure, but was very successful, but it happened because of progress made so far in stems cell research.
Things are happening each day in the medical/pharmaceutical field worldwide with fierce competition, but an ordinary person will not know until it become available to the public.
Like I say, one might view certain issues outside his field very different. Like what you mentioned above about the cost of research. But let me tell for a fact that In the U.S Canada and U.K for example, government funding for research is as small as 5%. Universities had been allowed to source for funding without the any govt help. Hence, in the U.K, that is why they had in the last few years relaxed the student visas, because, the school needs the cash from oversea students, not because they love you now .
Bulk of research funding is private, because there is serious money to be made. From individual investors to pharmaceutical giants, THEY PUMPING IN THEIR CASH.

I will give you a tip. Start looking for medical/pharmaceutical research to vest you money is you have liquid cash. If to say, a single drug research you invested into is patented, you are instantly a millionaire. I am serious!
Just like many people invest in small budget hollywood movies, if its a blockbuster, they are rich. Though, this takes longer to realise than a movie investment, but if it comes off in your life time, you and your family are settle for life. Always look for medical journals, they are very prominent there.

My biggest regret till this date, was when I was given the chance to invest in the research of what later became today as viagra almost 30 years ago by a broker classmate of mine, but I kept the form and never filled it in. And look at what viagra has become? A blockbuster .

Joke apart, my point is, medical research is mostly funded, not by the govt but, rich individuals and corporations ready to risk lots of money, and also charities, e.g Cancer Research U.K, last year pumped almost half a billion pounds sterling into cancer research.

Monzuur: My post on d front page of nairaland 4 d 1st fuckin tym am fuckinly happy

You must slaughter a goat today. . well done though, you seemed chuffed.

[quote author=star*]@eziachi so why regularly in Britain do we have the medical profession pleading with the public to please give blood??

I know for a fact that blood isn't just used for transfusions. Platelets from donated blood are used for example with birthing mothers and during pregnancy for anti D injections to save babies in their mothers womb. I wonder what a JW stand there would be?[/quote]Because that is a standard British medical procedure, the same way we plead that people sign up to donate their organs. It doesn't mean there are no transfusion alternatives. As regards platelets, there are now synthetic platelets, which I had used personally with JW as a pre-op therapy.
Like I said before, we are very close now to a total non transfusion medicine, just as we are hoping for stems cell research to get to its peak, when there will be no need for organ donation.

[quote author=~vicky~]Blood Transfusion confusion!!
Jehovah's Witnesses doctrine allows of liver transplant but not the blood that is in it.
Reasonable points are raised about bloodless alternatives during ELECTIVE scheduled surgery. However, bloodless alternatives are no substitute for blood transfusions when there has already been massive loss of blood volume, as occurs in accidents and trauma leading to sudden blood loss.

They believe that life is sacred to God therefore blood is sacred because it represents and symbolizes life. Jehovah's Witnesses put a higher value on blood than they do life.

Which is more sacred? The symbol or that which it symbolizes?
No blood dogma does get people killed!
well that's their doctrine though!
[/quote]As a doctor of many years of experience and orthopaedic surgeon, your statements above is not only false but has no basic medical fact. As I mentioned in my first post, there are many things a good and well skilled doctor can do even when there is even a severe loss of blood. As an orthopaedic surgeon, I treats hundreds of auto accident victims each year that had lost 70 percent of their blood. A male blood count is counted to a measure of 15 and female 14. A male can still live when it down to 2 and female 3.
Last year I operated on a Sierra Leon guy that was severely hurt during their war but now living in England as a refugee. The procedure lasted almost 8 hours, he is a member of this religion and refused transfusion. We did our best for him as his blood count went down up to 1.9 but he survived.

There are things you can do before and after the surgery, like the use of certain drug that boost the red blood cell increase up to 60%, like EPO. There certain food that can boost your blood count more than you realise, a simple fruit like Apricot, fig etc are wonderful. I had this experience once, as a visiting doctor in Owerri in 1989, were a doctor half hearted in treating a patient because she refused transfusion. In fact, his attitude was like, he wanted the lady to die , just to prove a point and I was mad with rage and I made my feeling not only known to him but to those he works for.
I will not be surprise if its not common in Nigeria, where religion is the opium of everything people do. A doctor based on his own religious conviction, may find fault with the JW people and will not do his job properly, just to prove the patient and family wrong. I can easily see that happening.

People should not make bold statement over issue they don't have all the facts. As an orthopaedic surgeon of close to 40 years I have lots of experience on this issue than most do. I know for a fact that there is no policy among Jehovah Witnesses's not to receive transfusion as a blanket law. Its down to individual and am hundred percent sure that the lady in question has taken that decision in the event like this through her verbal instruction or what we call medical life will and not by her family.

Jehovah's Witnesses based on their faith, as they perceived it from their understanding of the bible, do not take any sort of blood and in England that is respected by the law and respected by the medical profession and you do all you can for your patient, while respecting their choice of treatment, so I don't know about Nigeria.
Its the right of a patient to choose how he/she wanted to be treated and not only on transfusion by other therapies like Chemo or radiotherapy in cancer treatment. In extreme cases involving children, a judge may decide what happens over the choice made by parents, but like I said, its only in extreme cases.


As a surgeon, I will be the last person to recommend blood transfusion for anybody at will, because what most people do not realise is that transfusion kill people than it saves. I usually tell people that blood is the sewage of the body and every single event in your body goes through the blood stream. Thousands die each year through blood poisoning, hypertisis B, HIV, all through transfusion and this is in advanced countries where blood is specially treated to the highest standard. Can imagine in developing nations?

Over the last 30 years, thanks to this JW people, science had develop advance method of all sorts of non blood surgeries and this includes many hours surgeries like cardiac, brain and most complicated procedures in orthopaedic like Quadraplaty. I can tell you that Jehovah Witnesses started and developed a machine we used today called jpyt, which is a blood salvaging machine, preferred by the rich and famous today in surgeries instead transfusion. I can also tell you that the recovery period of non blood surgeries as against blood surgeries is 5-1.

I don't know what is obtained in Nigeria, but medical science has moved on so much to use non refusal of transfusion as the reason for a patient lose of life, there are many thing you can do, even in the event of severe lose of blood, e.g multiple dilution process. In 2009, the U.S army invested close to a billion dollar to perfect their field medical personal on bloodless surgeries and treatment. Because not only its safer but its very cost effective. In my opinion and when I had seen in the last few decade, we are very close to a time when no single blood will ever to use in medical science.
Jehovah Witnesses may reject transfusion based on their faith, which should be respected but I will personally refuse one based on personal safety and the science of what I knew about blood, but as a surgeon, I do give people blood, but it has never been the first resort.
One more thing, when blood is given to you, it takes at least 48 hours before it become a full part of your body mechanism, i.e if your body didn't reject it.

kingoflag: Or if the same people that gave him 98.7% votes in their region just because they practice the same religion and speak (almost) the same language ignorantly foist him on the rest of the country.

But I doubt that'll work next time around... if he lasts that long. I forsee GEJ making a major gaffe that'll either have him:

A. Forced out by the people.

B. Forced out by the Army.

C. Forced out by the Senate.

Just my predictions.

For the sake of arguement, who did your zone gave their vote in 2011 presidential election?

aribisala0: What big power? and if he does not forget they will do what? why did they not make Abacha go?
Why have they not moved Mugabe.America needs Nigeria more than we need them.FACT. They are the ones trying to diversify their dependence on Arab oil. THe Chinese are wooing us seriously and are more useful to us

The reality of Nigeria is an ethnic one . That is numero uno. All through the time when aboki were ruling as military did anyone complain. It is when they are out that you hear noise. I bet you that If Jonathan tries rigging election the way it happened in 66,79 2003 or 2007 he will not survive. This is based on the fact we still have an ethnic Army. Ihejirika will soon retire who will succeed him. Jonathan is organizing fair elections because he has no choice not because he is good.
You say the worst scenario is military coup. Who is in a position to do a coup if not the north. You have a superficial understanding of Nigerian Army politics. The same Army that brought in Yaradua from Saudi and did not inform him .You talk of power. His power is an illusion.A president that cannot go to Borno state? Which Power.The guy is full of fear and that is why he is kneeling in front of Adeboye.
Abokis are in power and will always be.

To keep himself in power, Abacha was gradually turning Nigeria into a mini north Korea.How many times did Abacha left Aso Rock, let alone Nigeria while in power? Mugabe is no use to them in term of cash like Nigeria but despite that, Mugabe eventually had to accommodate and share power with the opposition to buy himself time. If OBJ had defied the powers that be, he will not only be out of power today but will also be in the Hague with the likes of Taylor.
If Jonathan is desperate tomorrow he has the choice to rig the election, just as he rigged it in 2011 and nothing will happen. as long as the power players of the world are comfortable with him in power.

omonnakoda: Igbo can nefa become President. You too proud and think you better dan every person.So no chance for Igbo.Any oda person weda Ogoni or Calabar or Edo even Urhobo or GHANA but NEVA NEVA NEVA for the Yibbo. You people must learn to be humble and treat others with respect. If you go to a town and you are doing business and God bless you thank him but no the Igbo will say the owners of the town dem be lazy dem be mumu. OK naa you wey you no be mumu come and take President .

My assessment of igbo president of Nigeria was based on bigots like you. The likes of you will rather take the earth as their umbrella than to see an Igbo president of Nigeria. For the life of me, I can't see why my brothers don't get it?

ngozievergreen: anoda fortune teller? Ok o. n u didnt ansa my ques,who tot an ijaw man wl rule bfr now.
Wat made igbos come in power after Nzeogwu Revolution will still come upon dem again.
U go fear planet of origin nah. Dem dey do planet xter too. Well, Am from d Milky way......

Its not fortune telling, its based on facts and realities of Nigeria. The chance of Igbo man ruling Nigeria is a good as you renting the White House in Washington, unless the sort of accident that propelled Jonathan there by some great chance of all chances happen again. Forget about your core north of soft North, they are all the same, when the chicks are down. When they are sharing the oil money among themselves, how often do you how about a different parts of north?
Those kidding themselves that Plateau and their cousin Benue are you cousin will get w rude shock, on the day of the day

aribisala0: That is exactly what Ironsi was thinking. Even in Ironsi's case at least Ojukwu was there to fight. Who will fight for GEJ??
Tompolo??
If your logic is correct why did OBJ's third term agenda fail?
We must thank the North for that because the SS and SE in PDP sold out and he had rigged away the SW

The rules are different for minorities. More than 70% of Nigerian Army are Northerners so the chances of him holding power by rigging elections are nil. HE MUST WIN CLEANLY to remain in power and his winning is NOT guaranteed.
With respect it is you that has a lot to learn about Nigeria. It is not even guaranteed that he will not be impeached before 2015. If that should happen the sky shall remain resolutely in its place

Without the big power like the United State that in black and white told OBJ, to forget about 3rd term, he will surely get it. They harassed him into submission and that is why he kept saying till today that he ask nobody to get him a third term. The realism of Nigeria, is whoever is in power holds the ace and once you are out of power, you are as good as nobody. If Jonathan is desperate for 2015, he will use his power and your money to buy it and the worst case scenario is use of military coup.

delvinmaya: confusion247:



Gbam. PDP remains the only party with a structure that has sustained them so far. In 1999, we had AD, n some oda parties, some have changed names. Odas have simply faded away. That is what structure does for you. Longevity

Some of you just really knew nothing about Nigeria or how it works.That your socalled PDP structure is simple based on who controls Nigeria money from the centre. If Jonathan choose to contest under Jankara peoples party tomorrow, that same structure will follow him there and PDP will be reduced to nothing. My people says that only the man with pam front on his head is followed by the goats.

ngozievergreen: Igbos will never smell d post? What are u? A fortune teller? Go and sit down joor. Did anybody bliv an Ijaw man wl rule d nation bfr nw?
O ga eme unu vam na anya.

Just tell me the realistic and possibility of an Igbo man being president of Nigeria in a real world? Which planet is some of you living in?

godsony: All of u are crazy! [b]By 2015, shakarau,boko haram kinpin will be
President North Eas[/b]t,other islamic torrorists will cease N West,
Middle BELT will be embroiled in liberation war with islamists
S W will declear OUDUA Republic,Ironically,d S E will not want to
Secede ,they will seek alliance with S S. We simply don't trust
Ourselves anymore




what will you have him say? , even me say ok to it.

This Boko Haram people seems to change their kingpin like underpant. I thought you guys says that Buhari is the kingpin and sometimes its Atiku, IBB wears that crown at some point and today you bestowed it on Shekarau. Haba! "Magana Jari shi"