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maskid: i dey even suggest 3 parties... but for the avoidance of tribalism whereby each major ethnic group shares them. maybe 4 would be more appropriate.


rEMEMBER FIRST TO COMMENT!!!! FIRST TO COMMENT!!!!! YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! (continues the azonto dance)

And they will successfully label 3 of the four as tribal parties and one as National, and you and I knew whom that national one will be?
Two party system and nothing else suits Nigeria, as SDP/NRC proves that and maybe add the option of independent candidacy.
And there should be constitutional law that will stipulate:

1- if you crossed carpet from one party to another, you cannot contest under your new party under two years membership and the same for independent candidates.

2- You can only contest as an independent if you have been free from being a member of the two parties for a two years minimum period with evidence.

3- And you cannot run for any office as a former minister/commissioner less than two years after leaving your job to run as an independent.

4- Governors should run election as the rep of their local constituents but as his state party elected leader before the election and should leave their seat six months before any new re-election

5- President only need to run to be elected in his or her constituents, then he is the leader of the majority party in the house who will be elected by the party before the election, he/she automatically becomes the president. So, no more presidential election, as tribalism makes it meaningless.

6- They should abolish the senate.

7- House of rep will become the fusion of executive/legislative and the president choosing his ministers from among his fellow elected rep members and governors the same, from among his colleagues as commissioners.

8- If a president or a governor failed to be elected in their constituent as their party leaders, like OBJ in 1999, their party's deputy leader will take their position as long as their party holds the majority in house.

9- If president/governor lost their party's leadership position, they will lose their positions as president/governor too but will remains as their constituent rep, like every other member until next election when they will run just to represent their constituent as a member.

bankylan: @Modicum.....This is just too shallow......Trying to find the source of wealth of a man God has blessed by applying logic is pretty dumb.

While young men like you are giving millions of naira for the work of God, you put yourself in a position of one of the poor that will rather be looking for a man of God to give to them.
I have never seen a blessed man criticize men of God that are blessed..it has always been the pastime of the poor, the jobless, and the frustrated. You can claim to be a Christian by religion. But being a Christian by religion does not guarantee you success and wealth if you don't follow the principle of Jesus Christ. Covenant university if built by the giving of young men and women who understand the principle of Christ. My friend is one of those people that gave to Covenant even while he was struggling as a man. Today, God has blessed him.

Young man, I don't pray for money....I only need to look for opportunity to sow.

Have you wondered why your criticism has not affected the men of God. Do want to say you are more intelligent than thousands of believers that go to winners on Sundays and worship God with their substance. I am not a member of winners, but I pray God bless me more so that I can sow into the ministry. I need to tap a grace there.
Watch out, my own private jet is coming.....If I can afford one, I will buy one...if I can build a University, I will build one.

Because your crooked idea of God's blessing is simply gets rich and that is simply the theme of your pastors. People like you will never knew the air you breath, the daily sunshine, Snow, photosynthesis, that makes our food to grow and beautiful plants and animals around us,atmospheric water cycle, seas, rivers and ocean full of food are all God's blessings.
Unless you becomes over night rich, God hates you, that is the theory of modern Nigerian Christianity.

The Chinese and Russians economy is booming, these people don't even believe in God, if money is the measure of God's blessings, I wonder if God was drunk when he made them prosperous?
Many past and modern Kings AND RULERS are not known God lovers, it never stop them becoming rich either, how does that supports your theory of riches equal God's blessings? Goons!

[quote author=m.k.o2005]The bible is the most complete book ever available to man ! You see everything in it ! As you study with the help of the holy spirit,your eyes keeps opening !
See below comments to the Corinthians as made by Apostle paul :
'[b]'If we have sown spiritual seed among you,is it wrong if we reap a material harvest from you ?-1 Corinthians 9:11
In the same way God has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel-1 Corinthians 9:14[/b]
See below instruction to the Galatians:
''Anyone who receives instruction in the word must share all good things with his instructor-Galatian 6:6''
See below instruction to the Philippians by Apostle Paul:
''Not that i am looking for a gift but i am looking for what may be credited in your account-Phillipians'' 4:17
Friend,i did not show you all these for you to see that it is good we should be exploited by men of GOD -NO but that it is not wrong at all if we give to men of GOD !If they choose to xploit us,let God be the judge !
We have been told by the WORD of God that all authorities that be are instituted by God and that we should submit to these authorities- Romans 13:1[b]''Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities,for there is no authority except that which God has established.The authorities that exist have been established by God''Will christ ask us to submit and HE will not submit HIMSELF ?NO-That was why he paid HIS tax too. (Cesars or imperial tax)So give back to ceasar what is ceaser's and God what is GOD'S. [/b] The only time the word of God does not want or permit us to submit to authorities is wen the authority go negative i.e contradicting the word of God !See the case of the 3 Hebrew children;Shedrack, Meshack and Abadnego.They refuse to bow down to the Babylonian god and the Almighty God stood by them inspite their disobedience!
Who told you that Jesus was never required to pay his tax ?
The Imperial or ceasar's tax was a tax imposed on subjects that are not Roman citizens. Christ also did pay that tax without any complain or objection whatsoever and the people(accusers) were marveled !
I think you are referring to the tabernacle tax !
The tabernacle tax which was made a law by moses that all who worship at the synagogue must pay for the upkeep of the synagogue. See below what christ said and did concerning the tabernacle tax which is very different from the government tax(Cesar's tax):
MATHEW 17:24-27
Pls go through the above scriptures and the Holy spirit will help you see what you need to see !
Gifts were given to Apostle paul but he told them that his receiving those gifts isn't becos he want's to but just becos he want's them to have something in their heavenly account.
Men of God who are truly called can't take advantage of us ! But if they do,let God be the judge
God bless us[/quote]It shows how wicked Jesus say many like you will become by twisting God's word to suit your evil actions.
What apostle Paul was referring to there to the Corinthians is not about them acquiring new houses or the latest chariots, the materialism he is referring is the direct physical benefit one get when a spiritual seed sown in a person works.

For a example-1 If you you are to sow a spiritual seed in a person, maybe to help and successfully convince a smoker, a gambler or a drug abuser to stop doing those things, he will reap the material benefit of a good health, better use the money he spent on smoking or drug/gambling.
He is not talking about be accumulation of material money wealth as a direct link to a successful spiritual seed.

-2 If the spiritual seed sown is to work in many of us and we becomes good people, the material benefit is that we will have less crime victims, less money building and maintaining prisons and the money will be then used for other better things and less tax and that benefits everybody.
That is what apostle Paul is what apostle Pal was talking about.
This how you and your pastors twist God's word to suit what you are doing. And you claim to know the scriptures. Shame.
Yes as a rabbi, Jesus is exempted from tax based on Rabbinic law, which the Roman governor/prefects respect to maintain peace among the Pharisees that collect taxes for them. But Jesus decides to pay, just not to be like them or for the people to conclude that he is of the same breed as their dictatorial rabbis in the temple. That is how much you knew.

nep2ra: Religion is an escape mechanism that helps the weak run from reality. My fellow Nigerians, please let's be honest for once in our lives. This honesty will help save future generations. We are very religious in Nigeria and most of Black Africa because of the massive failure of our past and present government to address the challenges of our country. If our government lived up to it's responsibilities as obtained in most developed countries, trust me, Nigerians will not be religious.
Most Nigerians worship God not because they love Him or because they want to attain spiritual enlightenment. They claim to worship God because of material comforts. Nigerian Christians treat God like a vending machine. Slot in #100 and receive it's equivalent in mayeri

That is exactly the truth- Nigerians are like most Jews during Jesus time, they are only interested in miracles, especially the ones that will immediately and directly benefits them but once the subject becomes about the future (kingdom of God to come on earth), they are not interested and will disperse.
Nigerians and their pastors thinks that this God is stupid.
If the likes of Oyedepo is to stop telling politicians that the out come of their election rigging has nothing to do with God's approval-
That your ten containers in the open sea has nothing to do with God's approval or blessing-
That God gives us children whether you love him or not, just like he give both good/bad people air to breath and sunlight.
That when you are sick, go to hospital and get an adequate medical treatment and pray that the treatment work and if it doesn't, it part of what we are as imperfect human in an imperfect world-
They will all run away, because their love of God is purely based on selfish and instant gratification and their very skillful pastors knew this fact and they are feeding on it.

[quote author=m.k.o2005]You could as well go and find out how king Solomon made his money !
God bless us[/quote]Its not a secret, how Solomon made his money, he was a head of state, every citizen paid their taxes to him. He received gift worth billions in todays money from worldly rulers like Queen of Sheba, and finally, his father David was a stinking rich man, so he had an inheritance.
Bloody hell!!

Gim2001ym: Your politicians are there stealing government money by the day, you are here criticizing the man of God for doing goods. Has it ever come to your mind how many secondary schools and primary schools belong to Living Faith. What the government can not do is what a missionary is doing and some are here shouting the man of God down. It is easy to praise politicians that are doing nothing yet stealing your money(Jigawa state governor son was caught with dollars) than people that are doing good.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT TO CONTRIBUTE YOU BETTER KEEP SHOT BEFORE YOU SOW AN EVIL SEED THAT YOU WILL REAP IN THE FUTURE.

Doing good is not a justification for a shepherd to be conning food from the mouth of the sheep he suppose to be pasturing, it worse than the politicians. Lawrence Anini and Monday Osunbor did not buy fancy car from the proceeds of the actions, but spread them among the poor in open markets, that doesn't mean that they are not robbers and deserve what they got in the end.
What will be your action if you a passing through an open field and saw a cattle rearing megida taking food from the cattle? Would you think the megida is normal? But some of you don't know that, it exactly what this funky preacher are doing with those they claimed to be shepherding.

Ben Global: If e pain una make una go open una own church,if ur gods is poor my GOD is nt....free d guy jor

We know the name of your god, he is called Satan. He owns the world and everything it riches, that it why he offered it to Jesus if he agrees to worship him. You don't offer to give what doesn't belongs to you to somebody else. can you?. And your Jesus himself called Satan the god of this system of things who will blind the mind of many gullible like you.
If you assessment of God's approval of you is purely based on your material possession, you don't even know the real meaning of Christianity, because there are many gods out there and people like you a mixing them up.

[quote author=m.k.o2005]You have settled the matter my friend ! Oyedepo said he didn't use tithe money for the establishment of CU and people are vexing !
Has he come out to tell us that no body supported either by cash donation or contribution of materials for the establishment ?
Yes Solomon was a king and my bible also made me understand that as HIS child am a king !See below scriptures supporting my KINGSHIP :
ISA 61:6 And you will be called priests of the Lord, you will be named
ministers of our God. You will feed on the wealth of nations,
and in their riches you will boast.
1PT 2:5 And you also, like living stones, are being built into a
spiritual house, to be a Holy Priesthood.
REV 1:6(KJV) And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father.
REV 5:10(KJV) And hast made us unto our God kings and priests and we shall
reign on the earth.
ROM 5:17 Says we will reign in life through Jesus, the greek word for
"REIGN" is derived from the the word for "KING". And means to be a king

If am God's child and am a king and Oyedepo is God's child,dnt you know that he is a king as well ! If God used people on behalf of Solomon to take him to the height he attained,God can still use people today to elevate Oyedepo !Do u want to be used by God for the upliftment of oyedepo ? If yes,make urself available ! If no,pls stay clear and allow us(ME) to be used by God to lift HIS servant Up !
When the investigation time comes,God will vindicate HIS own and if HE doesn't,HE won't seize to be God !
God bless us[/quote]You should equate King Solomon to world rulers like Presidents, Kings etc not Oyedepo. He is not a king. He claimed to be a man annoited by God, just like Samuel, Jeremiah, Elijah and those apostles after Jesus like Peter, James and John. Those are the one you should be equating with Oyedepo with their life and style of life. Gullibility is a disease and it rest on the brain.
If really know your bible as t you seem to suggest, King Solomon, is hardly an exemplary character to be following, when it come to being loyal to his creator-an idol worshiper and fornicator whose actions ended up causing Israel to be divided. Some of you need serious help, but it might be too late.

[quote author=m.k.o2005]If you try to use ur brain against God and HIS work,you will look like a fool before God !
God bless us[/quote]You are now the spoke person for God? Evil men always rap themselves around God.
Lord! I gave bags of rice in your name
Lord! I received private jet as gift in your name
Lord! I build Universities in your name
Lord! I paid my lecturers millions annually in your name
Lord! I buy the latest cars for my sidekicks known as branch pastors in your name
Lord! I wine and dined for the Pharaoh of my time in your name.
Lord! I slept with a members childless wife in your name.
Lord! Now that the sister is pregnant, it shows that you Lord well blessed that intimacy.
Lord! I received a huge gift offering in your name from the husband-he doesn't need to know
Get away from me-You workers of lawless- I don't know you-said the lord.

Hello! Gullible followers, some one has to fulfill that prophesy uttered more than 2000 years ago. Apostle Paul made it clear that God is not a dictator, but true sign of Christianity is having and independent mind guided by the scriptures and question every utterances of men before swallowing as many wolves will come under a sheep covering.

[quote author=m.k.o2005]If there was EFCC in NAZARETH during Jesus' time, sure HE would hav bin taken down there or most certainly suggested by some 1 to have HIM arraigned ! It's comon to be called names wen the HAND of the Almighty GOD is upon ur life !
God bless us[/quote]Those who read the bible upside down. Jesus paid taxes to the occupying Roman govt in Israel, when he is not required by law to pay.
Apostles like Paul left his law profession to concentrate on his ministry, but on part time basis makes tent to support himself and not relying on the congregation members. He did not receive or cajole to receive the latest chariot or Sea freight as gift from rich members of the congregation, especially in such prosperous cities like Ephesus.

pictures: Are his followers complaining? Na wa for busy bodies . The man
has done more than the federal government . If he really built that
university within 7 months and Nigerian government cannot build our roads and provide
stable light with trillions at their disposal.This man ought to be given an award.
Personally it's not my business where he got his money from , don't muzzle the
Ox that tread the vine . Abi is that not in your bible ? Deuteronomy 25vs4

Comments like this one, has always made me to believe that Nigerians don't know the meaning of democracy. That truthfully, democratic system doesn't suit the mentality of most Nigerians screwed up with years of mental abuse by the military Junta of many years.

Democracy is not all about casting vote to choose the rulers of your country, its all about its ethics, attitude to issues and more importantly, openness of the society among all established facet of that society.
Religious organisations should operates as registered charities in all civil and democratic environments, hence their incomes are not subjected to taxation, their overseers are tax exempted to a certain level of income they receive within and outsise the confines of the church.
With that an overseer/board of directors of that organisation (religion) should subject all gift to that person or group as the property of that organisation, they are not allow to involve in private business ventures linked to organisation directly or indirectly, hence their tax exempt status will cease.
Just as its unlawful for a politician to convert any donation made towards his election campaign into personal income, the same for any head of church to convert gift, donation to him by any person because of his/her position into personal keep.

It is so crass hearing the so called educated Nigerians saying that whatever financial a public figure involved with is the persons personal issue. Please!! its not!! As long as democracy is concern.
Every public figure whether in government, NGOs, Charities are required by law and obligated to be totally open with all their businesses and personal conduct THAT COMES WITH THEIR POSITION or which their position granted them the possibilities.

That is why Jesus himself paid taxes, when as a rabbi, he fully aware that he is exempted by both Jewish/Roman laws, in order that, in no uncertain terms, his conduct among men should be questioned, hence his famous quote, of giving Caesar his dues and God his.

I find it astonishing, the mentality of most Nigerians in this day and age. Nigeria inland revenue should be knocking on this guys door now, once he uttered the word that a whole university he build wasn't funded by the charity organisation he runs. He should be paying millions now in taxes or and disclosing the source of his funded. And why such an information is not know to all his charity member (church members)? Why they did not have a vote to authorize the university building as will be required by law in democracy?
Doing a good deed doesn't legitimatizes every action we took. Because a drug baron gives scholarships and feeds the poor doesn't make his source of wealth okay and legitimate.
Babangida's in-law once claimed that if a govt set a price target for oil in its annual budget at $10 and later oil price rose to $15, the leaders of that govt has right to share the windfall of $5 among themselves, that its no corruption, stealing or anything wrong with it. And I was in a daze hearing such an idea uttered by such a man but what most Nigerians are saying over this issue made me rethink twice now about that statement meant, because it shows that its a very common sentiment among many Nigerians, so why should charities a.k.a churches be any different?

In the U.K as we speak,because of Nigeria and their African funky preachers, a new law that require them to produce their income book every six months now to HMRC is in place and all charities shall HENCEFORTH be ran but a set board of directors or a governing body, made up of individuals that not related and shall operate a bank account of which all board of director members shall be signatory to.

I wonder if such law will happen in Nigeria, when the churches and their corrupt politicians were in it together. This not my speculation but a prediction, that soon, the south American/Mexican drug cartels will be using Nigerian billionaire men of gods to launder their blood billions in structural investments, all in the name of doing it for their god of materialism. Mark my word!

hotwax: Anytime the name "OBJ", "AWO", "Bola Ike" is mentioned here on nairaland, you will see them coming out to pour their hate on the thread. We know how Igbo people do. They do as if their leaders are saints.

The same OBJ you didn't give a 1+1 vote even in his own backyard?
The same Bole Ige you loved so much as a brother but murdered him in his own bedroom.
The same Awo you crashed his dream of presidency by formatting an unfamiliar formular of 2/3 of 19 is something else, courtesy of Richard Akinjide, Akinloye, M.K.O Abiola wise men group of 1979?
What do you know?

superior1: [size=16pt]In Nigerian Politics, the FEAR of OBASANJO is the beginning of WISDOM and SUCCESS[/size]

Obviously a different Nigeria to the one Abacha was when he thrown him into jail.

acidtalk: So Jonathan needed other people to cation him to desist attacking Obasanjo. That clearly shows Jonathan lacks an iota of wisdom.

Nobody and I repeat Nobody has ever fought Obasanjo and have gove scot free. They always end up regretting it. The man Obasanjo isn't definitely not a Saint or corruption free (he is damn corRrupt) but the fact remains he is the ONLY Nigerian living politician that certainly wants the Unity of this Country even when others including Jonathan wants Nigeria to divide.

As painful as it might be, Obasanjo clearly told Jonathan the utmost truth.

If Jonatha believes he doesn't still need obasanjo's help, he is making a very big mistake because the International world will rather associate with Obasanjo than want to have anything to do with Jonathan.


Atiku Abubakar, Ayo Fayose, Rashid Ladoja, Joshua Dariye, Ghalli Na'abbah, Pius Ayim, Tafa Balogun, Late President Umar Yaradua and others have all eneded up regretting their scuffles with Obasanjo.

And how many of these his above mentioned collection of his victims did he claimed while out of power or while in prison with Abacha?
In Nigeria whoever hold power, holds the yam and the knife. IBB also use to be the all powerful, everybody regrets fighting? How much is that today without power to call the shot?
Wasn't it the same OBJ that begged Atiku not to take power from him during his first term? Or just short memory of many like you?
And why wouldn't Obasanjo love Nigeria more than his mother? Because, Who or what is Obasanjo without Nigeria?

What you should been saying is that, its not sensible for Jonathan to be biting the same finger that fed him, because without OBJ's manipulation things as the president, GEJ would never had been where he was today, not because Obasanjo is some sort all powerful deity that will destroy anyone that disagrees with him.

Don't kid yourselves, behind every 200 bags of rice donation with no chicken and tomato to bury it, there is a future private jet gift from the receivers to the giver as long as Nigeria is concerned.

solidbroda: If God blesses you, spend the money. After all, Solomon in the bible was so rich. I'm sure he can afford millions of Jet. He was blessed by God. stop ranting pls.

Solomon was rich and so too was blood tasty Roman Caesars, Nebuchadenazer of Babylon, Pharaoh's of Egypt etc, what is the name of their god or gods?
If material possession is a measure of God's face, what god is doing it now for the Chinese?
How can I forget, in your so-called bibles, it was written that Satan once offered Jesus the riches of the world if he will do an act of worship to him? You can't offer something that doesn't belong to you, can you? Which shows that Satan is the owner of the world riches if logic is to come into it.

By the way, I knew him as King Solomon, the son of the richest man of his time, another King, David of the house of Judah and not prophet Solomon.
Gullible goons!!

Nigeria! A nation of clowns, they develop erection every time they hear a simple word 'Biafra' but busy playing Catalan national team?

mu2sa2: the governor was not arbitrary as some people might think. t[b]he Public Service Rules[/b], which applies to both civil servants and political office holders, provides for a dress code but it is rarely enforced. The commissioners were required to dress properly to the occassion, being an official event. As heads of their establishmnts they were supposed to lead by example, not dress like motor park touts. Their act amounts to misconduct under the PSR and the punishment meted out is one of the sanctions provided. It is not only women that should dress decently, men too.

Public service rule my foot. They are not at work but a party jamboree.

If the event organisers stipulated in their invitation on a certain dress code and the accused disobeyed it, the worst the dress-mad-governor can do it to politely ask them to leave the occasion and not suspending a person from his/her job because their dressing didn't meet someones's standard just because he has the power to do so.
Funny thing about Nigerian groomed rulers, they tent to flex their muscle where its not necessary, but where they are expected to act, they always turn a blind eye.
Talk about misplaced priority.

Alldruns: House pls help!

A colleague had industrial accident dis last July dat left him wt extensive wound & segmented tibia bone fracture, i.e. bigger bone of d lower part of d leg got broken wt a portion bone loss. He had since undergone several surgical operations: ex-fix, muscle flap, skin graft, DBR, etc. Though discharged, while expecting d remaining little portion of d wound to heal & dry completely b4 they talk of what 2 do wt d broken bone, he kept going 4 regular dressing.

D issue now is he was told lately dat he'll b re-admitted cos they discovered thru bone culture dat his bone was infected wt organism, clasified as MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus). Dis they say we make him 2 b placed on antibiotics thru IV & dat nothing else wil b done until he completes all d dosage of it, say 6-8 weeks. He got little hint dat MRSA is incurable bt can only b managed. Dis got him so worried now dat he's almost emaciating.

Pls he'l like 2 know:
1. D effects of dis on his bone, either in d short or long run.

2. If there's any medication dat grows adult's bone faster: either oyibo drugs or local herbs. Or leave it for natural growth. He's abt 42yrs.

3. If dis MRSA wil have any consequence on his wife should they need 2 make luv later in future.

4. When d wound is eventually fully healed, d Surgeons are proposing doing bone graft on him & dis they said wil nt totally achieve their aim except d fibula (d leg smaller bone) is reduced. Obviously, dis wil shorten d leg in d final analysis. Is dis a good option 2 ever settled for?

Pls sir/ma, ur prompt & mature adv is highly appreciated.

Hi,
Where is your friend based? If its in the U.K, I will like to see him but it might be difficult because he may not be able to afford private treatment but I will recommend two colleagues of mine that works within the NHS.
One is Dr Mo Lahoti- he is as I knew based at Kings college hospital and with him he can combine with the team I had worked with in the past at St Thomas's hospItal. I believe they are the best hope for your friend within the NHS.
Pls am going out now, I will tell you more later please.

ROSSIKE: Shouldn't you be asking your fellow Igbo leaders that question? Is it Hausas or Awo that have been governing Abia, Imo, Anambra, Enugu states etc?

All the so-called people governing Abia etc are the product of Nigeria and its culture of leadership grooming and it not a measure of what Biafra will be like. When the time comes, we will go back to our lay down cultural heritage that produced the likes of Michael Okpara, Akanu Ibiam, CC Ono, Alvan Ikoku, Nnanna Ukegbu, Edwin Kogbara, Kente Giadom, Sam Mbakwe etc

Its the same culture we had used to mould our town union leaders, who unlike Nigeria made leader never misused of community development funds in their care, never use our community development levies to open accounts with Swiss Banks, as they will never live to tell the story. Many of your never knew that 99% of electricity in Biafra today is done through community development effort, so to is 99% of all trunk B roads and not by any governmental authority.

Its only a fool will believe that the likes of present Abia governor will smell leadership inside Biafra without the present injection from Abuja.
But we will cross that bridge when we get there. But one thing is for sure, it will now be our sole problem, we will no longer had anyone to blame but just ourselves if we produce the like of present Abia governor in Biafra.

[quote author=nnenna.1]I am neither for nor against Biafra but understand Igbos who agitate for it as a result of whatever perceived injustices they speak out against.

What I am for though is a renewed and unapologetic interest on the part of Igbos in improving Igboland and fostering a more cohesive and recognizable identity.

The biggest folly among Igbos is that we have too many individuals who tread paths that are at odds with the "whole". Pettiness, corruption, pathologies, immorality, apologetic subservience to other groups to the detriment of your own (politically and socially), tendency to find fault in Igbos to please others, disinterest in the economic and infrastructural improvement of the SE, internal division.

Cultural loyalty in all ramifications is more socially advantageous than many people think.

Whether this happens in Nigeria or a newly formed country, I don't care. I would be nice if national referendum on how Nigeria would be structured were to take place though.[/quote]Neither for or against is not a position. This is no longer the time to seat of the fence, hoping that something might happend.
There is reaction without an action or a catalyst to help it.

Sam xiu lee: but you failed to answer his question about south south,you are only telling him to mind his own business.
Do you want to be a citizen of a land locked country?I admire the igbo for there commercial skills I praise them to high heaven for the feat,but it will be retro progressive if they end up in a biafra without the south south,cos it will be a landlocked country and the citizens will be paying double on import and export duties,also the economic market will be too small for its illustrious citizens who are into commercial activities.
I am for southern nigeria,we all need each other one way or the other,hardly will you hear of igbos being massacred in oshogbo or yenogua or vice versa,we have our differences and similarities unlike the northerners whom we don't have anything in common with.

Probably you don't understand the phrase "mind your own business". Biafra will be a a political entity of choice and not by force. Your so called south south or East East will choose where they want to belong, that is their choice. Even Igbo speaking area of those place even chose to remain in Nigeria that is their choice. If they felt Nigeria will best serve their interest, that is their cup of tea. Its not the language you speak that determines your country. If that is so, Yoruba speaking of Dahomey should have been forced into Nigeria or Yorubas in Nigeria forced to join them in Benin republic.
There are German speaking people in Austria and Belgium, so too are Spanish speaking people of France. If Igbo speaking people anywhere now decide to make their country outside Biafra, what is our beef with that?

If we choose to live in a landlocked or sea-locked country, that is where the creator placed us, that should be our worry and not yours. When things are hard and tough, that is when the brain is more effective as necessity as they say-is the mother of all inventions.
If I may recall, Somalia lived by the sea, I can barely see the waves they are making in the world with all the sea they got.

There is no such thing as southern Nigeria when it suits some people and when it doesn't, northerners becomes their twin brothers. Where was southern Nigerian brotherhood between 1967-1970? We don't want another mago-mago brotherhood, every man to his tent, we rather be your neighbour than your marriage mate. Marriage is not a force, sharing a house or a flat is not by force.

Stop your deception of telling us where our sons can trade. The west African region, Africa and whole world is so big for any Biafran to trade and don't give us the nonsense about trade, its an expired tactics. There are more Biafrans in Douala, Bamenda than any city in Nigeria and that is a fact. Biafra investment in Gabon or South Africa is no less secure than the one in Lagos, Abuja or Kano, so what the heck are you talking about?

Only in Nigeria that they get constant threat as to what will happened to the harvest of their hard labour and effort and that same Nigeria is supposed to be their own country. Never had they ever had such CONSTANT harassment/thread outside their country in places Cameroon, Gabon, Togo, Ivory coast, Sierra Leon, Liberia, Equatorial Guinea etc.
You may never have heard Igbos been massacred in Oshogbo or Yenegoua but it was places like that that Igbo properties were declared abandoned property and kept, enjoyed by your so-called mentioned SOUTHERN BROTHERHOOD for many years.

acidtalk: But does the constitution permit such?

Constitution written by Sani Abacha? Give me break!

OgidiBoy: Very weak!!

[b]Only weak men cry, n[/b]o wonder he goes around the world apologizing and bowing to world leaders.

Very weak indeed, crying weak men like Jesus Christ I guess? The stone has spoken.

seanet01: Of course you will said that Lagos belongs to all sundry, but deep inside you know that the original owners were the one stayed behind in 93 when you people started your coward yam festival in the east. No room for nonsense in Lagos, it is either you are submissive to our laws or you Bleep off to your erosion ravaged iboland. Clear?

The last we checked, LAGOS is part of Nigeria and you lot are proud one NiGERIA CRUSADERS. As for the real indigenous owners of Lagos-the Aworis said its theirs and I don't know how much of an Awori person you are. Busy fighting what doesn't belong to you in the first place.

Some of you shouting Lagos all the time has not even a single slippers in Lagos, let alone a stake of any form. Your only contact with Lagos is the brief wait at the Murtala Muhammad Airport to catch a flight to Peckham/Thamesmead, for a life of credit card fraud.

youngdady: Nigeria's not @ war with Ghana or America. Biafra proponents and their Nigerian opponents want war at all cost!

Proponents of Biafra bears no arms, they did not shoot anyone, neither did they threatened anyone else very existence. I don't know how that translates to wanting a war in your wisdom laden opinion.
Two weeks ago, Scottish devolved govt signed an agreement with the British prime minister for Scottish independent referendum in 2014 with smiles and handshakes.
David Cameron did not bring back the U.K troops from Afghanistan to declare war on Scotland for wanting independent from Great Britain, neither did he arrest Alex Salmon and proponents of that agenda. And that is the very people that created Nigeria.

It likely that the Scots may reject Scottish independent but it will purely be based on their choice, not blackmail,coercion or violence.
Some of you should grow some brain and look at how the world works in this modern un-isolated times. Its Biafra right o leave Nigeria and the earlier Nigeria gets that, the better and use sound debate rather than intimidation to convince Biafrans to stay. This tactics of intimidation and harassment only will make Biafra more enticing for its people, especially the younger generation.

geeez: Who gives a flying hoot what party you stick your dirty thumbs to?

Yorubas will determine who rules in Yorubaland

Now ACN is a Yoruba tribal abi? If that's the case, what would you say about your backward APGA? At least, BRF appointed an Igbo man commissioner apart from people from other tribes in several ministries and parastatals. Can that happen in Igboland? When even one Igbo state can't allow people from another state work with its own government

You guys are just a bunch of hypocritical propagandists

The last we check, their is no country called Yorubaland rather than One Nigeria your forefathers sheds blood to keep as one.
Its either One Nigeria or One Yorubaland?
You can't have it both ways. Oil booty you run to Abuja every month to collect, non comes from your land if I may recall. Don't tell me Ondo state. its from Ijaw LAND hacked off from their among their brothers and thrown into Ondo by OBJ/Ayo Irikife boundary adjustment magic of 1978. HURRAY ONDO IS AN OIL STATE!!

As for appointing anybody, there are people of Nigerian heritage robbing shoulder with other MPs at Westminster in London and they don't go each day reminding them on how grateful they are.

I guess go back to your village which is in Panya republic?
I Can see mayor of London saying the same now-go back to your village if you don't like London congestion charge.
One Nigeria!

Please can someone wake up Fani Kayode that the Anti Christ is coming!

He also vowed in the month of May that Boko Haram will disappear from the surface of the earth by the month of June.
What month are we now?
The only enclave where he can be a leader/ruler is Nigeria. He is only protecting his nest

dubem3: what happens to the kids when a nigerian marries a Ghanian or an american?

Don't mind them, they are running out of idea of why they don't like Biafra.
Hence people reasoning like baboons. There more Igbo married to foreigners than other Nigerians.
He should ask the Ibrus, Aikomus or Olu Faleas of this world that are married to foreigners what happened to their kids?