Okija_juju: Wow!!

May he rest in Peace..

We Nigerians thank him for his service to the Nation, atleats I remember that
In 1977, Garri was not even up to 1 naira a cup..

swaggerific: I'll start buy
1.) Rejecting any bribe anyone offers me
2.) Stop loading my molue in non designated areas
3.) Stop throwing dorty on top road
4.) Stop supporting corruption by lecturers and professors by refusing to buy any of their handouts


Before Nigera go change, e go tey my brother.

antitpiah:

Because he wasnt good enough for any of the schools in the SW. It is obvious to a dispassionate observer that Fashola isnt the best the Yoruba people can offer. That said, I admire his determination to see his dream come true.





So who is a false Nigerian? The r/a/c/i/s/t, triba/l/i/s/t administrators in your hellhole over there in Alaigbo? All you Ibos know is how to take from the Yorubas, how to steal from them, how to whine when they dont give you what you want. . . what a sad life to live




NCNC started as a Yoruba party. NCNC was started by Herbert Macauley, a proud Yoruba man.NCNC was dominated by Yoruba intelligentsia, educated Yoruba lawyers form the UK. It was after the Yorubas left that it transformed to an Igbo dominated party. Get your facts straight, Ibo s/l/u/t






Thats because your fellow ediot Ibo, Azikiwe, wanted to rule over the biggest country in the Black world. It is unfortunate that you and I hold the same passport. God, you f/u/c/k/e/d/ up!

baslone:

No it didn't but corruption has been legalized under his regime!

olaheavy:
For over 60 years Igbo people have been trading and giving 'freedom' to their boys. In years gone by, Freedom meant opening a shop for your boy. How many shops can you open for the tens of 'boys' that will do apprentice with you? Left to you the boys should go and rent shops in their villages, because rent is cheap. And we will alll leave computer village to go to individual villages...

You got it damn right! Yes, get the fvck back to your hellholes in the accursed East. B.itch talking about teeming Igbo youth running about the Yoruba streets - do we really give a fvck about them or any of you ignorant Easterners? All we want and asking for is for you cannibals to leave our lands and fvck off to either Abuja or Calabar or Onitsha. LEAVE OUR YORUBALAND ALONE! Way to go Mr. Raji Fashola. Next port of call is Alaba Market then Ladipo and Later Mile 12. If we attempt to dislodge them human eaters peacefully and they fail to budge then I think when we go BokoHaram on them they'll take us seriously that we really want them to leave the Yorubaland and fvck the hell off to their erosion drenched caves in the Bight of Biafra. These Igbo cannibals are laughable indeed - they abuse and deride us daily, but are crying that we should build shanty towns for them to dwell and flourish in. Heck no! Go back home,. cannibals! Your home is in the hellholes called the Eastern Nigeria. Why are you thieves so obsessed with the Yorubaland? In case you Igbo pigs would like to play the blame game of Lagos being a former FCT and some shit like that, I tell you what: Calabar was aalso an FCT - and it's right there in your landlocked East. Abi, what happens to your land of milk and honey and the rising sun? You should all be ashamed of yourselves!

maryjames9: Is Fashola the President now who steals billions? My friend,you are suppose to direct that question to Goathead Egbere Jonathan and PDP Governors and leaders,not Fashola. Your second point,there are new shops built in computer village waiting to be occupied.It is the duty of whoever is interested to go to banks and financial institutions to get loan and repay in 10 years ok? Goverment no be bank o. Se u hear? Let's do the right thing. If they cant afford the shops at computer village,there are other cheaper shops in lagos but not ikeja

Pukkah:

Please note that I wrote that 'to take your point further' we should 'strive' for finished goods. This need not happen in the short term but over the long term. The export-oriented goods you wrote about is a step/phase or the low hanging fruits from where we can start and is a point which, given the time and conscientious approach, we can surpass.

By the time the economy booms and income levels go up together with fast-developing infrastructure, the local demand for cars in your example will go up and we can then move from export-oriented goods to another phase. I agree, Rome was not built in a day and a journey of one thousand kilometres start with one step. But, are we ready to start? Have we started the first step?

LOL at 'you're jobless today.

Beaf: I forecast the scenario quite accurately yesterday (quote below). When will Sahara Reporters stop lying for blood money?



https://www.nairaland.com/1001087/subsidy-probe-suspects-warn-gej/4#11581964

pleep: Unfortunately, this topic has grown wings and i wont be able to reply to all the responses.

But if you guys have something to say be specific. The only people you are convincing with your arguments are people who don't have a clue whats going on. "China did this" bla, "India did that" bla. Tell me exactly how isolationism is bad for[i] Nigeria [/i]or stfu. We have a different situation than any other country! That is why it can work here, if nowhere else.

And you guys keep talking about Cuba, do you know how many magnitudes better the Cuban standard of living is than Nigeria's? Cuba and North Korea never planned to be isolationist, it simply happened when the soviet union fell. Cuba is a good example of the system working because they have everything they need on their island. Korea is an example of its failure, because they do not even have enough farm land to feed all their people.

And remember communism and isolationism are too different things, keep that in mind before you make a long ignorant post about nothing.

This is probably the crap they taught you in school. You are the problem with Nigeria, not the corrupt politicians. People with closed mind are holding Nigeria back because you mistake the stupid trinkets globalism has given you (black berries and coca-cola) as progress. The poverty level in Africa began increasing the instant we entered the global economy. It went from 10% impoverished to 80% and is increasing daily. This should be enough to let you ppl know that something is wrong with the system itself, but you guys are so brainwashed you put all the blame on politicians who have no real economic power.

Capitalism is a pyramid, the developed countries are at the top, the third-world forms the base. Do you guys realize that the rich countries cannot be rich unless the bottom countries are poor? Do you know how many Africans were thrown into poverty because of the rise of China?

You guys have dumb pipe dreams that Africa can rise like China, that will never happen, just accept it. There is no hope in this system for a country that forms the base. [b]If Africa became wealthy globalism would loose its base and implode. [/b]There is no future in this system, we must leave the global economy.

Pukkah:

To take your point further, we can even strive for finished goods in several areas - both products and services. Imagine if all the Honda, Toyota and Nissan vehicles we use in Nigeria were produced in Nigeria. Even Nokia, Samsung, and Blackberry phones? What of shirts, shoes, and home appliances? Imagine if we could get advanced medical care and services in Nigeria.

The country should strive to create an enabling environment for this and many more.

Wallie:

I said "policy makers that understand the intricacies/nuances of the manufacturing sector and how it ties into the global economy." I don't know anything about the canceled mass transit but ordinarily, in a democratic setting, Buhari shouldn't be able to just cancel a project by a state government as long as the Federal character is not involved. Then again, Buhari was an Army General when he ruled.

What we need is for us to have a national policy that will stand the test of different administrations that will say something like; tariffs on a “completely assembled” mobile phone will be increased 200% in 1 year. This will cause manufacturers and entrepreneurs to import only preassembled phones that can be assembled in Nigeria, thereby creating more local skilled jobs. Same can be done for computers and other finished products that can easily be assembled locally.

The problem we have is our inability to sustain policies past a single administration. Why would a business invest millions of dollars that will take decades to recoup if they know that our policy will probably change when the next administration comes in? A smart businessman will just wait out the current administration and fund the next one coming in.

akin33: At this jucture, let us stage a protest to stop this broad day stealing. The PDP has succeeded in making themselves empire. If we keep silence, it will continue. The salaries of a senate or reps enough to develope a community. Chai! This evil must stop. Revolution to chase PDP away in 2015 election is sure. Graduates, atisan, businessmen, man & woman, let us come together to stop these few people that are pocketing our wealth. Imagine, in d midst of unnemployment and hunger. A person earn such amout of money and dnt care to create jobs.

Wallie:


In the real world, people sign contracts/agreements that are beneficial to them. Problem arises when a party to the agreement is ill-equipped to understand the real implication of the contract except for the superficial promises.

The developed countries are looking out for their own interest when they push all these policies. It is the job of Nigerian leaders to know and pursue the policies that they can mutually benefit from.

You are right by stating that we cannot have a net benefit gain when free market policies are just implemented blindly. As big as China is today, even their market is not completely open!

What we need are policy makers that understand the intricacies/nuances of the manufacturing sector and how it ties into the global economy.

uncleb:

What a dumb argument, this is very ridiculous. Certainly, if you are not one of the 40 laptops, then you are benefiting one way or the other from the government. You postulations are anti-people and spirit of the masses will not forgive you.

Who told you Nigerians don't have a right to cheap fuel? Did you do Economics? Is a basket of pepper sold the same price in Lagos and the North? Will you buy a He goat "Agbo" for same price in Niger and Lagos. What makes the difference? Cant you think right for once?

A sensible and people oriented government would think about how to fix our refineries and produce our consumptions locally than continue to import, What gave birth to subsidy in the first place, is it not corruption? Did you listen to Prof West(former petroleum Minister) debate in January during the subsidy removal crisis. Oga please stop annoying us

On your argument that public transport vehicles are diesel driven and factories run diesel generators, please can you compare transport fares in Lagos before and after subsidy removal and tell this house your findings? For your information, I spend over N300 above what i used to spend pre January 1 on transport to my office now. Lets not talk about the prices of food stuff and other essential commodities. Do you think everybody have access to free money like you.

Finally, you claimed that transporters will drop price as patronage drop, so people will be tracking form sango, ogba, ikeja etc to CMS abi or you have provided alternative means of transportation for them?

Abeg u dey vex me

HNosegbe: Isolationism is a very emotional topic. Politicians use it to sway the minds of electorate all the time. They use rhetoric like "Damn the west"! or "We can take care of ourselves"! Gamal Abdel Nasser did it, Julius Nyerere did it, Sekou Toure did it, Robert Mugabe is doing it. India did it prior to 1991, China did it under Mao.

The truth, however, is that NO ECONOMY HAS EVER PROSPERED BY BEING ISOLATIONIST. Economies prosper when they determine their areas of comparative advantage and convert such into COMPETITVE ADVANTAGE. The British discovered their flair for seafaring and adventure, and thus built a navy that enabled them to dominate the world economy in the 19th century. The United States portrayed itself as a land of opportunity where anyone could fulfil his/her potential, thus they were able to attract the best and brightest minds in the world to build the nation. The Germans cultivated a reputation for efficiency and quality, which has kept German products in high demand throughout the world. The Chinese leveraged off their huge population (and attendant low labour costs) to attract the highest level of FDI in history and build the world's second largest economy. The Indians are building a reputation for excellence in the IT and outsourcing industries. We need to ask ourselves how we can carve out our own niche and prosper based on that.

So please stop with all this isolationist talk. It has been tried before, and it has failed woefully.

Billyonaire: North Korea and Cuba are examples of separatists economy; China and Taiwan also operated separatist economies due to their communist regime. The poster is making a valid suggestion, but I think we should try to balance staying connected to world economies and remaining economically independent. The less we import, the better for our development.

Paul John:

No, it's not a bad idea. China did the same some years back, and it's helping them big time. In the world today if I am not wrong, China is like the only country that can stand on it's own any time any day without any importation from any country. When China alone as a country could do this, where not Africa as a whole? It's painful that African leaders are not smart enough to see this.

HNosegbe:

Quite on the contrary, China's economic miracle began only when it OPENED UP its economy to foreign investment by creating Special Economic Zones (SEZs). If you doubt me, please Google "Deng Xiao-ping" or read about him in Wikipedia. Isolationism has been shown to fail time and time again.

Kobojunkie:

ONCE AGAIN . . . ..

I think I am clear in what I said.
In 2011, the total spent on subsidy, according to Okonjo-Iweala, was in the ballpark of Naira 1.3 Trillion. However, according to the same woman, by June of 2011, the Nation had already exhausted the Naira 888 Billion allocated for subsidy for this year( that's in about 5 months). And all this during the same time this same Government has continually claimed that it has been working hard at CLOSING UP ALL HOLES to stop the thieves from continuing to loot the system. So, you tell me . . on the way to solving corruption by removing subsidy, right?


Also, Jonathan did not come up with the "TOTAL SUBSIDY REMOVAL" plan. That plan has been in since Obasanjo era, and it was eventually decided it would be done in phases. I am not sure of what you mean by Before election. The only person that stopped total subsidy removal was Jonathan Goodluck himself. From his refusal to investigate the current situation to at least present the Nigerian people with solid evidence that total removal was needed, to his refusal to investigate the payments that had been made. All that contributed a greater deal to the non-success of his plan.

I don't see why you should now pretend it was all everybody else's fault and that the plan was perfect. Jonathan waited till right after the Election to swing the subsidy removal plan on Nigerians. Even After months of calls for investigation, especially calls that cited the KPMG reveals, the administration ALL OUT REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE, to at least PROVE to the people that whatever suffering that may come would not be in vain.
Okonjo Iweala in on record to have made silly statements suggesting that Nigerian poor did not benefit at all from subsidy and so an increase would not affect them that much. It is even claimed that she said most transport units run on diesel and so would not be affected in anyway. We all know that was all balderdash as no sooner had the prices at the pumps increased than the poor Nigerians started to realize they were in for serious hardship if nothing was done immediately. If you are not aware of what happened in January, even in parts of the country where people refused to protest, please use google to your advantage.

Like I said before.