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agaugust:
You have to use ISTAR to search and collect the data first, that is first.

No data gathered, means nothing to transmit on data-link.

ATR-42 has data-link + ISTAR = NAF is complete
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All SANDF equipments are now Link-ZA compatible and can relay and collect data. We do not rely only on one platform (ATR42) like Nigeria would. A one eyed man relies only on one eye remember, so you are exactly that man.


NIGERIA HAS NO TACTICAL DATA LINK. Do you even know what is a tactical data link sir?

agaugust:
Even if it is against Rhino poachers, they should show us one use of LinkZA datalink
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Thanks God anti Rhino poaching is not a military responsibility.

agaugust:
He knows, he is just afraid to go there, the ISTAR terror alone scares every Southie, they fear to fight against superior technology....and that fvcking deadly ATR-42 radar range of 407 km....African king !
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ISTAR fails to scare Boko haram, so how will it scare me down here in Pretoria? Bwahahahaha… It stand no chance in SA.

agaugust:
All I see is Boko Haram in the grave or in captivity, we humiliate them on the streets.

SANDF cannot stop humiliation by Rhino thieves on daily basis inside your homeland.

See your Boko friend being dragged on the street after being disarmed in battle....you envy our war history
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Boko continues to harass Nigeria as at June 2015

Henry120:
You have no operational data link. LinkZA only exists on paper.

Because you say so. You have the right to utter any nonsense. Of course that's your mouth.

stillchris:
Terrorist

Bwahahahaha…

It is not me, rather blame Boko haram for humiliating your recently wasteful transaction.

agaugust:
Data link CANNOT communicate information that has NOT been first detected by ISTAR you fool !

You ever seen a computer doing data processing before data gathering ? Mumu, Southie universities cannot teach you basics of data processing.

With tactical data link there is no matter of first. Whoever sees what everyone sees it simultaneously. That's why NATO and US are so reluctant to share this tech with anyone, they instead want monopoly on the system.

agaugust:
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ATR-42 Surveyor radar range is 407 km....any Southie ready to prove otherwise ?

It's been a bad ISTAR week for them Sowetans
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Because you say so sir.

agaugust:
Fool, ATR-42 is a long range ISTAR platform, it does NOT fly into battlefield if their is capable threat. Yet ATR-42 Surveyor has anti-missile self defences, chaff/flare counter measures, and anti-jamming devices.

NAF ATR-42 does not use only radar you M0R0N, it has long range TV camera with magnification lens to video watch the battlefield from a safe distance beyond reach of enemy air defences, and if need be it can be escorted by jet fighters to stop enemy jets in the air.

No country in the world flies ISTAR aircraft into battle theatre of air to air threats without escort by fighter jets. You are a domingo block head.

SANDF/SAAF does not have any ISTAR aircraft with long range TV camera for visuals of battlefield from same distance, you will never understand ISTAR until 50 million South Afrivans raise funds via bank loan to buy one of Nigeria's type of aircraft
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Bwahahahahaha… To complete an ISTAR with visuals, one has to take that risk. Those cams cannot perform the magic of taking visuals hundreds of kilometres away. Your luxurious ATR42 will never stand a fighter jet, that is why is escorted by defence fire. It will not do such against SANDF which is well equipped with powerful fighters. It will kiss the ground sooner than expected.

Your ATR is just only as good as patrolling pirates in the sea.

stillchris:
you are the biggest and most disgraceful foolish south african on this thread. your son would shake his head in shame if he gets to know his father's level of reasoning.

and you claim to be in the military. if this is the product of the SANDF, your defence review should also include eradicating illiteracy from it's illiterate personnel.

you should also respect ISIS, PKK, IRA etc... (being a lover of terrorists) because US and these military high tech weapons are yet to stop them.

you deserve no respect as you have proven toto reason like a sub-human.

terrorist

Thanks for pulling out that honest admission that your overrated glorified piece of technology you have been dubbed to buy is yet to stop Boko haram.

Thank you very much.

agaugust:
Like you think we will panic because you have data-link....is Link.ZA a jet fighter ?

Data link is far more important since it communicate with all platforms at the same time.

agaugust:
ATR-42 Surveyor radar range is 407 km.....that's confirmed now.

Live with it.....oh ! You are afraid of the African king of radars ? Cool.

Trust me, I don't make claims without evidence. It's 407 km radar on NAF ATR-42 just confirmed.

We enjoy the fear and terror Nigerian ISTAR gives 50 million South Africans
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You are nothing but just a chameleon who changes everything the way they want in order to suit their fallacious wishes. So, which one do we take, since I guess that next time it will change to 600 kms? You are such a desperate chameleon.

One thing that I respect about BOKO HARAM is that they care less about a luxurious wasteful expenditure called ATR42. They do not respect it at all and they continue to ran down every credible feature that this overrated tech is said to have. They have proved that it can easily be penetrated and broken down, every bit of it, piece by piece. They humiliate this tech such that it is now clear on everyone's eyes that the Italians dubbed Nigerians into falling for this luxurious wasteful expenditure. They knew well Nigerian military was still poor to boast such a tech, they knew it was still just a kid to get into such big expensive shoes.

YOU HAVE BEEN DUPPED.


Meanwhile, BH attacks a Babangida community in Yobe burning down a police station and houses to the ground.

http://dailypost.ng/2015/06/15/boko-haram-attacks-babangida-in-yobe/

agaugust:
ATR-42 radar range is 407 km. On this forum, I am known to be honest
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You see now you are the most controversial element on Nairaland. You should be offered an award for that category. The 330km ground search radar range was confessed out of your own mouth and now it has suddenly changed. Why do you always want to remain an "X" which will always have to be solved on Nairaland.

agaugust:
Insults won't buy you ISTAR aircraft overnight.

I have always called ATR-42 the mighty Surveyor on this forum since one year ago, I used the word before you.

My reference is to your second post, you said visuals, because you thought radar gives visuals at close range. I educated you that radar gives signals not visuals, be grateful, Malay Pig, say thank you to Nigerians who open your tiny Pig eyes

A black tire is not am insult, it is just another way of referring to a fool. Fool, how can the radar give visuals if it does not have cams? That is logical and basic. I am quite sure that you have a problem understanding English, you poor Igbo man. I work with radars everyday. I have only said that it will be useless to survey the battle field over 400 km since you will not be getting any visuals. ISTAR does not require only signals but visuals as well for target acquisition purposes. Then if you do it only with your radars it will not be a complete ISTAR. Your luxurious wasful expenditure will unfortunately have to come to the battle ground in order to survey it in details. Doing it 400 kms away will not help you fool.

LIFE AS A SOLDIER IN NIGERIA.


A life of a typical Nigerian soldier. Yet the military is wearing big shoes said to be the exact size of NATO in terms of ISTAR tech. They could not afford to buy the basics. canvas tanks for water purifications and storage, sleeping bags, Weather havens, stretchers and good food.

lionel4power:
Meanwhile Nigerian military is at war right now, it is evolving, changing to meet the current situation. Right now as we speak there are men and women firing their rifles, hinds choppers are shooting rockets, tanks vs tanks battle is raging, artillery shells are bursting, sorties are been flown, bombs are falling.
Right now men and women in uniforms are bleeding to keep west Africa safe.

But S.A has not seen combat in many years. Your centurion tanks are rusting, your half french chopper is rubbish, your valour tin cans are docked, your subs are grounded, your military is broken, fat and lazy. Your soldiers are busy contracting HIV. Your military is dead. SIMPLE.

NIGERIA MILITARY IS FIGHTING ISIS WHILE S.A MILITIA FORCE IS BUSY TAKING PICTURES.

SA is one space that the likes of ISIS can never play on. The likes of BH who grown so big that they even challenge government troops on one on one conventional war will never even dare to challenge SANDF on home soil. They can never do what they have done in Nigeria where they have even robbed military of their strategic bases. Where they have chased military like dogs chasing after rabbits and hares. Where they have ruled over a large piece of land equal to Ireland for many months with great impunity. Such a gain can never be realised in SA soil protected by SANDF. That moemish can only happen in Nigeria where you find soldiers sleep walking because of empty stomach and poverty.

agaugust:
Radar will do detection as done by radars. Simple.

ATR-42 radar range is 407 km NOT 330 km.....point of correction....407 km for NAF radar.

Get it right !

Why do you like to over inflate specifications? What do you stand to gain from that? Do you think we will panic. You ATR even with a 1000 km radar range will still remain harmless because is not a fighter and plus is used by ill equipped military which also lacks the skill. How the hell will I ever fear a toothless lion.

agaugust:
SANDF data-link has not helped them against Rhino poachers dribbling their entire air force and 21 battalion + special forces combined

Link.ZA exists only on paper
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Bwahahaha… In reverse I would say that your luxurious ATR42 could not save you from the wrath of BH, Eeben Barlow had. It proved once again that Eeben Barlow is bigger than your luxurious wasteful expediture which was tasked for monitoring BH activities yet it failed DISMALLY.

On the other hand, SANDF data link has never been deployed against rhino poaching activities as poaching is not military assignment. We now have special law enforcement members tasked to carry out that duty.

agaugust:
Yes I said survey, NOT visual, I never said visual. The ATR-42 is called Surveyor, so I was VERY CORRECT.

Radar scan mapping to surveying by signals, NOT TV cam visuals.

South African education fails in both English and Geography.....not only Maths and Science

You thought radar is like the eyes that visualizes objects until Nigerian education showed you that radar works by signals.

Say thank you Lagos, thank you Abuja, say it loud
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English is my first language, dummy and it is your second language, you black tire.

I spoke of survey first. I repeat, I said your luxurious aircraft cannot SURVEY a contested battle ground. Go and look at my post again you black tire.

I laughed you out loud.

FighterPilot:
Wahhahaahahahahahaahahahahababababbaab!!!! You killed me. That is a radar range it has nothing about giving real time visuals. The radar searches for threats ahead. I told you that you know nothing about military hardwares. Stop making a fool of yourself.

You laughed back like a mad man making no sense. Confused as usual.

agaugust:
Bwahahahahaaha You k.illed y.ourself, radars DO NOT give visuals, they give real time signals yo fool !
You know nothing about warfare
Yes from 407 km away, NAF ATR-42 detects SANDF equipment and vehicles so that we can delete your army !
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Here is our posts to pull all your lies.

l said.

FighterPilot:
Your Maritime Patrol Aircraft will never survey a contested battle ground

and you said this

agaugust:
It does not need to fly above the battlefield, ATR-42 Surveys the battle from 407 km away you dunce
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NB: to survey something it means you can as well see it, thus radar cannot be used to see visuals of an area 400Km away. To be correct 330 km ground search range away.

agaugust:
You keep sying Nigeria wasted money on ISTAR like ATR-42, yet South African air force chief of staff was crying and begging ANC government for money to buy ordinary Beechcraft ISTAR that NAF has been using for years, yet Pretoria government keeps saying no money.

I am sure SAAF is ready to buy NAF aircraft second-hand on credit if we allow your cash-broke SANDF to tender for sale on credit
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Your ATR42 is still a wasteful expenditure because Nigerian military is not equipped for that tech. Your military is still poorly equipped to boast such a tech. Firstly, before you acquired it you never checked if you had a dedicated tactical data link or not to integrate your ISTAR configured MPA to other platforms. You needed first to get your house in order and now you look like a man wearing cheap clothing with an expensive shoe. Your leadership lacks vision.

How is that system helping you when it cannot communicate with other platforms. It is unfortunate that as the operator you will see the enemy's location but all your other platforms see nothing. WHAT A WASTE.

When it comes to SANDF, we are more than ready to acquire any aircraft that we can configure for ISTAR dutie and as well make it ELINT compatible. We have all the neccessary equipment and integrated data link. Go and do your basics before you can fit into the shoes of a monster (super powers). Those shoes you are wearing are too big for you.

agaugust:
You did NOT mention cams in your comment, you said the radar range of 407 km will is not the range for visuals. You thought that when radar gets closer to target it will have visual, until I corrected you....fake Soweto fighter-pilot
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YOU ARE A BIG LIAR!!!! a civilian will never teach me anything about military hardwares. Go and read my posts again. You were busy spreading lies that your radar can see the enemy 400KM away.

You should have figured that out since I corrected you that your radar has NOTHING to do with giving real time war visuals. That's why I said your luxurious ATR42 can never survey a contested battle ground because it is too slow and might see itself kissing the ground sooner than expected.

agaugust:
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ATR-42 Surveyor of NAF has 407 km radar range ! Fact !

Multi-mission capable for air to land and air to sea ISTAR.

It also does partial AWACS for secondary air to air ISTAR missions.

It`s radar is jamming proof and anti-ECM.

Facts ! All Factual Facts !

This ISTAR weekend has been a very bad season for ALL South Africans on this forum
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It seems as if you do not understand your wasteful expenditure well. You have a trouble understanding the meaning of ISTAR as well as AWACS. You do not have apractical experience of all that, that's why all that you are showing us is an utter ignorance with some mixed up information leant from Google ®. Go and study thoroughly about what is an ISTAR and come back when you are informed about the subject for discussion.

agaugust:
Nope, I said SURVEY not visuals, survey...mapping !


....but you said VISUALS.....you know nothing about radars !

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Mogoe, I said radars do not give visuals, cams do.

agaugust:
Bwahahahahaaha You k.illed y.ourself, radars DO NOT give visuals, they give signals yo fool !

Yes from 407 km away, NAF ATR-42 detects SANDF equipment and vehicles so that we can delete your army !
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Bwahahahaaha!!! who said radars give visuals? I have never said such. All that I said is that your +/- 400 radar range will never give you visuals of a real time war in a contested battle field. I work with radars everyday so how can I happen not to know anything about radars, Mugoe.

agaugust:
That`s a different Beechcraft you dummy, the call sign numbers and colours are different you one eyed pirate ! I thought you said your eyeball is = ISTAR.....yet you cannot spot the difference in simple aircraft photos .....mumu pirate

This is a most unnecessary argument that Andrewza and I have thrashed for many days on this forum last year, NAF has Beechcraft ISTAR, I won`t entertain this argument again next time.


PHOTO 1 : NAF Beechcraft transport with no belly radar dome

PHOTO 2 : NAF Beechcraft ISTAR with big belly radar dome for ISTAR

PHOTO 3 : One eyed Patches the Southie pirate
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Bwahahahahaaha!!!! Nope, photo 3 is your one eyed ISTAR.

agaugust:
It does not need to fly above the battlefield, ATR-42 Surveys the battle from 407 km away you dunce
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Wahhahaahahahahahaahahahahababababbaab!!!! You killed me. That is a radar range it has nothing about giving real time visuals. The radar searches for threats ahead. I told you that you know nothing about military hardwares. Stop making a fool of yourself.

agaugust:
Satellite is ZERO use in target acquisition once the target speeds off that longitude.

Next, if your satellite orbits off an area, it needs 24 hours to come back to the battlefield....your army is blind like a bat for 24 hours

During that time, NAF is busy wasting away the lives of SANDF men and equipment for 24 hours, before your satellite returns to view battlefield, the whole SANDF is dead
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That's untrue.

agaugust:
Satellites are NOT real time 24-7, they move off the target, it cannot stay on on spot and keep track of a moving target for long.

A satellite is in orbit over one area temporarily, it loses tracking of target once it orbits off that longitude coordinate.

ATR-42 will keep track of a fast moving target no matter where the enemy runs to !

You don`t even know how satellites work....failed Southie science education
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Your Maritime Patrol Aircraft will never survey a contested battle ground

Patchesagain:
Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance

All things that the Kondor-E can do

Thanks, we also have surveillance satellite which can rubbishes all this so called ISTAR into dust bin.