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agaugust:
The only battle tested data-link in Africa is Nigerian military top brass sitting in Abuja HQ, and watching live battle in Sambisa forest real-time video images and commanding/controlling a whole war hundreds of kilometers away.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/amosu-how-we-monitored-sambisa-military-operations-from-abuja/208413/

No country in Africa has ever done that in history.

Nigerian data-link works, that's the difference between us and SANDF
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agaugust:
No, SAAF has NO ISTAR capability, what you have is ordinary Recce.

F-7 jets carries Recce pod, does that make a jet fighter an ISTAR aircraft? No !

So NAF can call our F-7 jets ISTAR aircraft? Why did we buy ATR-42 and Beechcraft 350ER ?

SAAF Gripen carries the same Recce pod made for Jaguar jets, so NAF too cxan claim our 18 Jaguar jets are ISTAR aircraft?


"Easily integrated onto any air platform, the DJRP is a robust, lightweight, low drag structure with a combat proven pedigree on numerous aircraft types including Jaguar, Tornado, Harrier and Hawk and has been selected by the South African Air Force for Gripen"

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/nited-kingdom/defence/air-group/isr/digital-joint-reconnaissance-pod

[size=13pt]Recce pods do NOT make ISTAR aircraft, many jet fighters all over the world carry Recce pods and nobody is calling them ISTAR aircraft.....[/size]

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF, your toy Recce pods works on our old 1980s Jaguar jets

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agaugust:
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Show us Gripen jet ISTAR pod...not Recce pod, I mean ISTAR pod...show us....Olodo

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lezz:
inspite of all your online ramblings, Pretoria is really scared and uncomfortable. She expresses concerns behind clossed doors and make rash statement to the open press which you block headed Zulus take at face value. Zulu read the BBC polls:Africa debate: Is Nigeria ready to lead the
continent?
23 June 2014 Africa
Nigeria recently overtook South Africa to become
Africa's biggest economy. But the country faces
myriad problems - including a brutal Islamist-led
insurgency, high levels of poverty, and widespread
corruption. Can it now become the continent's
leader? BBC Africa canvassed the views of both
Nigerians and other Africans.
Simi Fajemirokun, Nigerian
Nigeria is already leading Africa by the sheer size
of its population, its emergence as the largest
economy on the continent and its cultural prowess
via its music and film industry across the globe.
History provides further evidence of this in
Nigeria's peacekeeping role in West Africa, which
brought stability to the region, quelling the civil
wars in Sierra Leone and Liberia.
So how well is Nigeria fulfilling its leadership role?
At present, Nigeria's leaders lack a sense of
awareness and purpose and this has led to
confused policies and blunders such as the
kidnapping of the Chibok girls, the passing of an
anti-gay law and too many others to mention.
This poor leadership also overshadows the
amazing things happening behind the scenes, but
as the old gives way to the new, a better Nigeria is
being unveiled.
From technology to fashion to music, Nigeria's
next generation have revealed the open secret -
that Nigeria was destined to lead Africa.
Nigeria's Afrobeats stars
Nigeria facts and figures
Inside Nigeria's secret gay club
Simi Fajemirokun is a management consultant in
Abuja
Simon Allison, South African
N[b]o, is the view from Johannesburg. Economically,
Nigeria's newly inflated gross domestic product
(GDP) means very little here.
We know that these are just re-arranged numbers
on some bureaucrat's spreadsheet, and that our
economy is still more diversified, sustainable and
ultimately attractive to investors.
Our real concern is political. Nigeria and South
Africa are locked in a fierce tussle over who will be
the African superpower, and Nigeria has just
robbed us of our most potent advantage.
South Africa's pre-eminence in continental affairs,
and its membership of institutions such as the
G20 and Brics , as well as a potential permanent
seat on the UN Security Council, rests on its claim
to be Africa's largest economy.
That title now belongs to Nigeria, which is also
Africa's most populous country. So, who should
be represented on these bodies?
South Africa's concerns are compounded by fears,
expressed privately by government officials and
diplomats, that chaotic, corruption-prone Nigeria
is unfit to assume the mantle of continental
leadership.[/b]
Most South Africans would tend to agree: The
perception persists of Nigerians as drug dealers
and 419 scammers, making it hard for Nigeria to
be taken seriously here.

agaugust:
PMC is not mercenary. It's a company.

Nigerian COIN troops has 5,000 men trained in Russia from 2014, and many thousands trained in Pakistan, Israel, and China.

Every Nigerian soldiers has his basic training and advanced training in Nigerian NDA Kaduna academy.

Russia trained 5,000 Nigerian COIN troops, yet Russia did not claim to have defeated Boko Haram, South African PMC trained 120 troops....

Then you say you won the war....what of Russia that trained 5,000 Nigerian troops ?

See our Naija troops in Asia and Russia COIN training 2014....Olodo domingo
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lezz:
one Zulu goes out and a bigger Zulu comes in.

2015 economic summit is talking about BRICs not BRICS.

No $375 billion economy is a world economic power.
Wake up from your dream, boy.

Patchesagain:
Picture is worth a thousand words

lezz:
kindergarten attempt to deviate. South Africa isn't a bric nember. Funny thing is that you know but won't accept because it's a Nigerian forum .

Patchesagain:
No

fvck this.

I am done

- lezz says South Africa is going to get kicked out of BRICS
- lezz then says South Africa is not a member
- lezz does not realize the contradictory nature of these statements

Dude, thats it.

agaugust:
Mumu....

agaugust:
I work in defence industry, missiles sales are order, follow up order if any, and all are captured by UN arms records.

France will NOT hide Exocet missiles sales to South Africa and deceive United Nations for the sake of black ANC government.

Fool

agaugust:
Are your Exocet missiles 100% effective?

How many Exocet missiles do you even have? Just about 13 missiles....one and a half warship load.

LOL....Foolish Soweto navy cannot even fully arm two frigates, their missiles are for one and a half ships....world record

Yes, I have started another chapter of nightmare for South African military on this forum.

Any navy Admiral from SAN/SANDF is free to come and challenge me, Nigeria will use OPV to sink Mandela's expensive over-rated Frigates
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MikeCZAR:
Nigeria has:




0 Frigates.
0 submarines.




Come back when you have something.

Patchesagain:
Are your chaff launchers 100% effective?

How much chaff can they dispense?

If you think that an Opv stands a chance against a Frigate then you need to stop posting in military forums

Patchesagain:
Just like no warships can be found in the Nigerian Navy

Henry120:
1, South-Africa cannot afford it. Orders were cut primarily because the South-African government could not afford them.

In-affordability began during the programmes development.

African countries choose the MI-28N, Apache and MI-35M because they are better assets, proven assets and with an adequate supply of spares dependability.

Price is just an add on factor imported Helicopters have over the half-french rooivalk.

The Rooivalk was rejected by the U.K, Australia, Malaysia, Turkey etc etc.

- the AH was built primarily with French help to meet both South-African needs and those of export clients.

It makes no sense to sink in 1 billion dollars in a program, spend 40 million dollars per AH and get only 12.

I said if China, Turkey or India were in the position of South-Africa, the Helicopter would have done well in Africa. This is a fact!

Nigeria is getting the T-129, the Nigerian Chief of Air Staff confirms this.

Turkey has the 6th largest Economy in Europe. It is a very important nation in the EuroAsia region. It has the Economy and the military strength to match it's importance.

The Half-French Rooivalk is an obsolete AH running on 30 years old computers nobody wants. These facts have been proven time and again.

agaugust:
I need proof of 20mm gun specs for SAS Drakensberg, prove to us that it is only manually controlled.....or you just made claims with ZERO proof ?

# Defeated Totally
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Patchesagain:
Your 50 year old warships impress no one

EVarn:
The idea that China is building all our vessels for us is an utterly ridiculous fallacy.Why,I can clearly remember that China is scrambling to acquire more vessels to safeguard its hold on the South-China sea and silk trade route,tell me,how can a country in such a dire need,leave its own problems to serve the interests of another country?.

agaugust:
[size=20pt]He posted a 2013 old report in 2015....out-dated wrong information. LOL.

He actually k.illed h.imself in suicide mode.

LOL[/size]

agaugust:
[size=16pt]Out-dated report year 2013.
Today year 2015, South Africa has ONLY 1 Frigate, 1 Submarine operational
The others are non-functional .[/size]

Patchesagain:
Just a reminder about the allegations made by Nigerians about SAN fleet readyness:

There have been reports critical of the SAN’s operational readiness levels.

Of course, there is no way that all its vessels can be fully operational at the same time – naval vessels, like aircraft, have complex mainte-nance schedules involving a variety of different levels of maintenance. And crews need training – a vessel undertaking training duties is not operationally deployable.

In the past readiness, was, if anything, worse. In the 1970s, the SAN had, on paper, a fleet of three submarines, two destroyers, four frigates and three ocean patrol ships (comprising two obsolete frigates and one obsolete ocean minesweeper).

In reality, there were never more than two submarines, one destroyer and three frigates in service (and often there were only two frigates operational). Of the nine strike craft that formed the backbone of the surface force in the 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s, no more than six were ever in service at the same time.

Worldwide, an operational level of 50% – that is, half of the fleet is at sea or can put to sea for operational missions in a matter of days – is regarded as good for navies. Many navies do not achieve this level. Very, very few indeed exceed it. “

The SA Navy currently has two frigates available for operational contingencies,” he reports. “One frigate is deployed as part of the anti-piracy patrols in the Mozambique Channel whilst the other is scheduled to undertake an extensive west coast patrol with visits and exercises scheduled off Namibia, Angola, Nigeria and Senegal (where it will participate in the Sea Power for Africa Symposium [November 5 to 8, 2013]). A third frigate is available for training in Simon’s Town whilst the fourth is undergoing maintenance and repair. The SAS Amatola is due to conduct a refit which should commence early in the new year. The current frigate availability rate is as per the SA Navy ‘business plan’ and exceeds the international norm for operational availability.” As for the submarines, one is undergoing a major refit which will last until the middle of next year.

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