₦airaland Forum

Are you surprised? Unless you'd not spent some time up north.

Uncle J is obviously a very sound mind when it comes to logic and deductive thinking, and talking too but the fact remains that his spoken English contains too many grammatical errors. But i rather have a GJ with quite pragmatism and bad spoken English than have a 'Soyinka' with a beautiful spoken English and a bad leadership.

This guy is definitely intelligent. See critical and deductive thinking at work. That is practically a PhD mind. Look at this line-

" I don’t really believe that the good luck an issue. But at the present, I’ve been facing a lot of challenges. What some people will attribute to good luck could have been disastrous under some circumstances."

I now understand why Ghali Umar N'Abba is worried.

I guess that Mr Kanti Bello will have his say but Dora will have her way. The guy has just polarized the house and it is terribly weighed against him. If Dora handlers play the game right, the southern senators, most middle belt senators and ALL the women folk in the house will be behind her when the counting starts. Mr Bello's outburst will be seen by many as an affront on the South, an intimidation of a woman an attack on a nationalist (by moderate nationalists).

Senators are supposed to be mature and strategic but what i saw on AIT was something else. He decorated Dora the more that whether she sails through or not, she still wins. The northern political genius seem to have been over-rated. How difficult is it to convince a southern senator or a christian middle beltern to fire the first salvo? Wrong cause, wrong strategy.

And Senator Bello may wish to also accuse the Nigerian Senate for disloyalty to President Yar'adua by investing GJ with executive powers. I am finding a new meaning for this word loyalty on NL.

~Bluetooth:
kanti raised a fundamental question which dwell on loyalty of a servant to a boss.if i may redirect the question to you.are you loyal to your boss presently at your place of work and would you jeopardise any interest pertaining to your boss all because you want people to see you as a saint.

And i thought that you were against Aandoakaa for his 'loyalty' to your beloved Yar'adua? I think you shift ground when it is expedient.

But why is one ethnic group the most vocal in both condemning Nigeria's present situation as well as a radical change all at the same time?

frosbel:
Nigeria: Security forces on alert after threats

(AP) – 40 minutes ago

MAIDUGURI, Nigeria — Authorities say Nigerian police and immigration agents are on alert after text messages threatened new violence by a radical Islamic sect.

Assistant Police Superintendent Adamu Isa Azare says remaining members of the Boko Haram sect have threatened to attack the government after recent religious violence in central Nigeria. Police in armored tanks have set up around Maiduguri, the site of violence last year that left 700 people dead.

Boko Haram — which means "Western education is sacrilege" in the local Hausa language — has campaigned for the implementation of strict Shariah law. Its members rioted and attacked police stations and private homes in late July, sparking a police crackdown that left its leader dead.

Still 'propaganda'. Infact, my friend from Maiduguri has it on good authority that Nigeria security agencies have been paid to destabilize the country since there is no Mr Tanko anywhere.

Well, my name is Jideofor and that is definitely an Anambra name, not a Igbo name. I dont know and i dont care what it means in Igbo. But in Anambra, it means that i should  make sure that i am justified or on the side of right or something close to that.  Go figure out the rest but hey, never call me an Igbo man but an Anambra man!!!

bashdecash:
I dont think is true, it is just another media propaganda. they are working so hard to make us hate each other so that the country will fall apart, hence vindicating their their assertion that Nigeria will divide by 2015.

BEWARE!

You dont also think it is true that Boko Haram exists and that one vocal Musa Tanko is their equivalent of Gbomo Jomo? Oh!, i forget that we are trying to be politically correct here, hence, Ghadaffi is a 'mad man'!! Infact,  Northern Nigerian muslims hate Osama bin Laden and actually, they also love what is going on in Iraq.

This is exactly the thinking of any 'devoted' muslim. You see how peaceful these guys are.

@Topic

And maybe David Mark and his paymasters may consider doing the same thing.

You know what? Owu is not Yoruba, Ijebu is not Yoruba, Egba,Oyo, Kwara, Ijesha, Ibadan are not all Yorubas. The last time i checked, my colleague from Lagos state can understand an Oyo man but have to strain his ear to understand what Ijebu man is saying. It is not even that different between within the Igbo because i know i can hear what Austin my friend from the heart of Rivers(Ikwerre) man says.

texazzpete:
This is an utterly brainless analogy. As long as you were born and stay in the African continent, you are an African.

'Igbo' is an Ethnic group. wikipedia's definition below

An ethnic group is a group of people whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or assumed- sharing cultural characteristics[1][2] This shared heritage may be based upon putative common ancestry, history, kinship, religion, language, shared territory, nationality or physical appearance. Members of an ethnic group are conscious of belonging to an ethnic group; moreover ethnic identity is further marked by the recognition from others of a group's distinctiveness.

So if these fellows do not identify with you, and they are officially recognised as a separate and distinct ethnic group, why make a fuss over it? It really matters not if you share history, it's what happens today that counts.

A good try but cant you see the weakness of your logic? If Igbo is an ethnic group from your wikipedia reference, then i expected you to prove that Ikweres are also a distinct ethnic group too, but you avoided that. And while you are at it,  i expected you to apply your knowledge of English to understand thatthe indentification is as important as the means which your article  say is  

through a common heritage that is real or assumed- sharing cultural characteristics[1][2] This shared heritage may be based upon putative common ancestry, history, kinship, religion, language, shared territory, nationality or physical appearance

Now look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikwerre

The Ikwerre are considered by scholars a[b] subgroup of the Igbo people of southeastern Nigeria[/b],[2][3][4]

There are several theories over the origin, and the most strong one is the theory linking the Ikberre to an Igbo origin.[6] They would be descendents from a Igbo migration from Awka and Orlu areas towards South. Igbo scholars take Ikberre as part of the Southern Igbo. Amadi, an Ikwerre scholar, says that the Igbo origin theory has some support even inside Ikwerre themselves, with Ikwerre would be descendants of a migration of Arochukwu Igbo, with Ogpo Wagidi being the leader of the Ikwerre tribe. During the colonial period the Ikwerre named themselves as Igbo, although this could have been done just for convenience in the political climate of that time.[6] Even then, there were always dissident voices that claimed that Ikwerre could have come from lands outside of Igbo lands such as the Benin Kingdom.[6] Just as an example, when Port Harcourt was conquered by Nigeria during the Biafran War and most Igbos fled the territory, an UN report says that some Ikwerre decided to claim that Ikwerre were non-Igbo for convenience.[7]

The Ikwerre group has evolved over time, and can now be called an "ethnolinguistic in-group" that is differentiated from the Igbo group.[6] The Ikwerre are recognized officially as a separate group in the 1979 Nigerian Constitution.[6]

And by the way, i still wonder how an 'Olusegun' will reject Yoruba ancestry.

@ndu_chuks
Your style is not new. You try to tear down and sow discord from the inside but it is no more working. I wonder why you should prefer a name that sound Igbo on nairaland, or even okeymadu. It says a lot about how your mind works. MEND does not necessarily need Akighibe right now, you know why? Their bros is incharge. So deal with it. No matter how hard you try to divide MEND into 2 on nairaland, they keep doing their thing and command a lot of sympathy in the creeks. Ok, let me make it easier for you- the kind of sympathy YOU have for CRIMINAL Iranian dictatorship. Clearer now?

Maybe he broke the rule of the 'cabal' or too greedy to bribe the police with some of his profits.

@Eziachi

He wont. He would rather prefer to insult people with different opinion like his confused brother- David Mark. The same man under whose leadership the Nigerian senate threatened the United States and apologized within two weeks.

Do you remember this about 50-year old quote: “It is better that we move slightly apart and survive, it is much worse that we move closer and perish in the collision.” I guess it will haunt Nigeria till she listens.

@Sky Blue
So going by your argument, Fashola has only done 'massive' road beautification (flower planting some will say), massive road construction, and what else?,   You definitely do not understand Anambra state and the existing dynamics. If you were there back in 2002-2003 when secondary school students demonstrated from Onitsha to Awka and was stopped at Aroma junction by Mbadiniju's tear-gas, you'll understand the level of political awareness (not behind the keyboard though) and that the politics of propaganda does not work in Anambra state because we saw the worst of it in that regime. Look, i have two more access roads opened up to my community with one having an interconnecting bridge, my alma matter that was wrecked by rain storm rehabilitated and water provided for the boarding students and my community, and i mean things that shows that the guy up there is on your side. Look, most of us traveled in December and knew that Obi CAN on records/achievements though some of us rooted for Soludo for other reasons like maintaining his visibility in the polity as a dike  that will be useful at the national scene at critical times.

Anambra is not Ekiti nor Lagos. People know what they want and i can assure you that some market women traveled all the way to Awka to witness the inauguration of their own governor. That is what Anambra is celebrating and look, live with it. You can't just change that. Period.

@nurexg

We already know your type. Exactly same style as ndu_chuks. No wonder people around here consider both of you as same person. He is a political baby? And what was your Yar'dua in 2007

Well, David Mark is a proven short sighted man. He also misled us years back by saying that telephone is not for the common man. Whats the difference??

@biina
Must you argue blindly? Cant you see that you lack basic understanding of what a democratic society is? Or even of the age we live in. Stop disgracing yourself in a public domain!

Abu-Maryam:
If hausa peaople dont have mind to retaliate what useless Berom did to them, we Fulani shall never leave the blood of our brothers shed for nothing. A battle line has been drawn. Una no see anything yet.

Noted!! You've just earned yourself a brand on nairaland.

mahal:
EFCC - Col. Umar; Good!
INEC - Faceless Law Professor;

I am actually thinking Prof Ben Nwabueze. Law professor, foremost constitutional lawyer. My pick!! But again, he is already with the PAC team. That leaves me thinking again.

On a very serious note, what will Mr Yakubu Gowon be thinking right now? Yester-years it was the Igbos, today, it is her assailants home state. Before our very eyes, the cycle will go round. There are rumours about Ibadan. And you know what?,  there is nothing you can do since it advances the course on one Nigeria.

If more villages will be wiped out in Jos or Ibadan or Hadeja or Damaturu, so be it and the status quo must remain because it serves the interest of One Nigeria. And there is no better time for 'elders' to watch their tongue than now because it is only a dog that eats back its vomit.

While you think about it, remember that 'It is better that we move slightly apart and survive, it is much worse that we move closer and perish in the collision'. It was the words of a sage about fifty years ago. If you have never shed tears about 1966, don't even try it now, otherwise, you will come across as an unprincipled character. I mean including Mrs Clinton.

Hm, From my understanding of these things, terrorists wants to kill me unless i bow to their Allah. It is to them a divine injunction. They shout Allah Ahkbar while slitting throats and to them, it is a divine duty to 'kill unbelievers wherever they may find them'. It is a world order of its own. So, is the sultan saying that the philosophy is right or that it is wrong. I think that he is just going in a circle. Terrorists are different from kidnappers. The first are performing a religious duty while the later knows that they are criminals and are doing it for economic gains.

Infact, this "homo sapien has thrown me into a state of emotional laceration an utter catalepsy".

ndu_chucks:
One would think that every minister would want to be present at tommorrow's FEC meeting. The timing of this trip is very interesting.

I think a deal has already been struck with Jonathan as to whether or not section 144 will be invoked. Let them leave Yar'Adua alone, forget section 144 and impeachment. Jonathan has all he needs to run the country. The only issue is that Jonathan cannot travel out of the country because we will then be without a commander in chief while he is gone. Geez.

Should they leave Yar'adua alone because it is the right thing to do or just to patronize him? In your opinion, is section 144 and impeachment unnecessary in the present situation? Do you think that he has behaved with grace that he deserve to be 'left alone'? And this idea that Jonathan cannot travel out, where does it come from. Maybe, US was without a commander in chief when Obama visited Ghana. Maybe, 'southern political naivety' as you called it in the other thread is disturbing me too.

True, me i saw Yar'Adua this morning along Third Mainland bridge. Mr Aminchi was jogging just behind him and asked us not to disturb him, as he was observing the last lap of fitness test before doing a marathon from Eko bridge to Aso Rock.

Pls, can you paste the venue for the bash. I'll like to attend. At least, barring ill luck, that guy may be Nigeria's president soon.

@Beaf, you got it!!

This people don't just get it. That argument is dead on arrival. Maybe, what Lukman is doing is in the interest of the north but they have not asked themselves how exactly you are improving when you cannot compete on the global stage. I listened to an interview granted by Works minister and i could see the intellectual shallowness that the establishment is telling us is in the interest of the 'north'.

Maybe, if you ask me what is in the interest of the 'north', is will say that you just listen to Babangida Aliyu of Niger state or Nasir El-Rufai.

I saw that coming. Those guys are what Jonathan needs for the big game. And if it gets too bad in 2011, one of them will be deployed to the front and with presidential blessing and packaging, he will make it to the top.

Now who says that Jonathan doesn't understand this game?

@citizenY
Did i hear you say votes? Maybe that is something to think about. Atleast to the extent that the the south thinks more in terms of quality while the 'north' thinks more of quantity. But you may wish to look at what was called the 'north' and see the clear division lines being charted. The minorities are begining to have their say, thanks to democracy and we can hear them. We can hear them in Jos and the foolish response in Bauchi, we can hear them in southern Kaduna, we can hear them in Taraba, parts of Gombe, Nassarawa, Abuja, Niger, Kogi, Benue and other heterogenous states where the 'north' are monirities but are categorised as the 'north'. Maybe, that will give you an idea.

Big picture? hahaha, grass root political development will empower the likes of Ojukwu( a man you hate so much), Alamieseigha (hope i got the spelling right), Buhari, Shakarau and co and will do nothing to help mainstream body that OBJ tried to expand in PDP. Hope you can see that grass root politics does not even serve your interest as the so called 'north'. Yayale Ahmed ( an 'northerner') moved that Yar'adua be 'de-robed' of presidential title and that is what democracy can do. The present system encourages mainstream politics and with the enormous powers at the center and with OBJ in command, i can assure you that the days of remitting NEPA's light rates to one Emir up north is gone.

I encourage you to look at the big picture, my friend.

It is that simple. Lets see how the game plays out though.