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theoctopus: No, becasue you people are cowards. You can only shout and hurl insults. Datz all! When they brought out only 5 soldiers at Ojota, you people retreated into your shells and abandoned your music jamboree. Very pathetic cowards and noise makers!

The person hiding under the protection of soldiers is the coward not the people bold enough to tongue lash him knowing fully well the amount of power he controls.

tejpot: The event is typical of those calling for attention, like some one has rightly said, anyone who is able to boo a governor can climb the position of a self acclaimed activist.

Mate, that's the beauty of democracy, don't expect it to favour you all the time.

tejpot: It is a journalistic political attempt to disrepute the person of the governor

How? Did the event happen or not?

tejpot: Sharia reporters or whatever their name is, it seems they have no news at desk to report. What happened to the hundreds of roads that have been repaired all over Lagos or did the grandfather of this news company died before it was repaired? Bunch of success haters. Fashola ma base elo, Ise re ma n tewa lorun, Fashola ma base elo*** singing continues

Leave Sahara reporters alone they didn't manufacture the news they merely reported what happened and it's their job to report.

This is the beauty of our people, no matter how popular you may be if you're found wanting they'll boo you and even yab you.

I know many who are quick to believe the Nigerian police account of the incident will soon eat their words. Nigerian police are very unreliable, manipulative and unprofessional. I'll rather believe the devil than to believe the Nigerian police.

emmanuel ewumi: How can that be possible, the civil war started in 1966 and ended in 1970 or there about. My father was born in the early 40s and enjoyed free education of Awolowo in the 50s, how can he now use funds from the civil war to finance his free education programme?

but some revisionist with their propaganda can easily convince lazy and naive readers.

I knew the ridiculous action of the police was politically motivated.

cKaiser: Akanbi

Why I dont agree with you is this. A lot of neutrals who dont know anything about these would believe the Ibo propaganda machine if they go unchallenged. With the zeal the Ibos propagate this from Achebe to Chimamanda to Arthur Eze even to the common roadside seller. A lie often told unchallenged would replace the truth

Assuming you are a neutral non Nigerians and you go to read and all you find out is that One side is bad and one side is good. Before you know it you would take that as the default position. Thats why winners of war write history to favour them

[b]I have met some people who would discuss the Biafra war as "The Hausa moslem war against the Ibo Xtians because of their difference in faith"

I now told a few the story and encouraged them to read from the beginning especially starting from the Jan 15 1966 coup. Most of them after reading usually either change their opinion or end up speechless from how their previous opinions were shaped by propaganda

E.g like few months ago a poster came here claimed to be African American and was rantin about how the Ibos were killed during the war. He was given an example by a poster cant remember who that since he is American if some ppl decide Congress and Senate are corrupt and the problems of Americans and they killed the leaders but after the putsch you find out it was only Black leaders that were killed and all whites spared, What would be his reaction to that.

In response he said all blacks including him would carry arms and revenge. He was told that was the position of Nigeria in 1966. He couldnt say anything again apart from "That is messed up"

He left here with a different view and mindset from what he brought in[/b]

If you leave all these unchallenged your own grandchildren would read their lies and believe it.

On this thread few pages back Someone claimed Awolowo killed Ibos so as to use their money to fund free education. Imagine that!! when Free education was an Action Group initiative in the western region between 1950-1966 after 1966 there was nothing like Action Group again and by 1966 Military were in power till 1979.

Thank you Bro, if lies goes unchallenged for a long time it becomes accepted as the truth.
I was taken aback by the ridiculous claim that Awo used igbo money to finance free education, imagine if lies like that is allowed to go unchallenged.

KwoiZabo: The Imo State Police Command Thursday arrested over 180 bandits with fake voters' cards, official identity cards of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), and independent observer identity cards.

The hoodlums, who were heading for Anambra State ahead of the Saturday governorship election, confessed that they were coming from Osun State before they were arrested around 7.30p.m. in a hotel in Owerri, the Imo state capital, while waiting to link up with their contact persons in Anambra State.

Items recovered from them include two pump action riffles, live ammunition, 15 buses and other incriminating materials.

Although the suspects could not mention the political party they were hired to work for, it was gathered that they were paid over N50 million to rig in favour of one of the candidates.
Parading the suspects, the Commissioner of Police, Muhammad Katsina, warned that Imo State will no longer be used as a breeding ground for criminal activities, adding that those arrested would be prosecuted.

He said the heavily armed hoodlums were in the state to cause breach of peace, stating that the operation against miscreants will continue unabated.

He further warned that the peace and security the command had worked so hard to attain will not be compromised by any politician no matter how highly placed.

However, one of the suspects, Salawo Ayodele, said that they were members of Justice and Equity Organisation and were mandated to monitor the Anambra election.
He disclosed that they were given N10,000 each as feeding money for the operation

The story doesn't add up and judging by the fact that the police have not properly invesitgate their claim as election observers before rushing to press with exhibits obviously planted as usual, I have no doubt that the whole show is politically motivated. However, these election 'observers' must be very stupeed to even thought of going for such a risky venture for a paltry sum of 10000 naira.

[quote author=Akanbi_edu]You see what I am saying. Why do you have to explain Yorubas position during war OVER and OVER? He just supplied the reason for Igbos seeing Yorubas as ultimate enemies BTW.



For once, put the typical Igbo in your shoes. If your relatives were killed in a war, do you seriously think you can approach the issue without emotional attachment?[/quote]

I agree with the quote in bold.

Double post

Eziachi: If many of you where around in the 60s and saw how dead bodies of Igbos lithered all over the streets of Nigeria especially in the North and stance the Yoruba took to not only fight along side the northerners but produce men like Adekunle as the North cunningly took the back stage. Murtala murdered more Igbos than Adekunle will ever Strang but how many young Igbos knew that? Was It because Murtala kept mute during and after the war? While Adekunle used his mouth more than he actually did and that what most Igbo remembered and passed that to the next Generation, hence sowing more Sees of hate. So I don't know why most you can't understand the animosity. It was more of a shock to an every Igbo man than anything else, that no matter your rivalry, you don't fight your own brother irrespective of your probably good reasons. Again, since after the war you will need to look hard to find Hausa talking about the war in public compared that to our Yoruba friends. Igbo and Yoruba are like England and Germany. They love to hate each other due to their rivalry and its not about to change until both side lives their separate lives, then this rivalry can becomes a healthy competition that will propel both nations to the pinnacle of development. The northerners knew this, hence they play them against each other to a near perfection. Many will be shocked how Igbo and Yoruba will get on, once Nigeria is broken, just like Russia and Ukraine.

Mazi Eziachi, how bodi?
Thank you for your contribution, of course comments like that of Adekunle were not only insensitive but callous however that does not mean all Yorubas think like him or support his actions.
Having said that I don't know of anything in history that make Yoruba and igbos to be like brothers, so can you expantiate on that. Also the fact that Yoruba decided to support Nigeria in the war was solely to protect Yoruba'a interest which I believe is the right thing to do. Yorubas have nothing to gain in supporting Ojukwu coupled with the fact that it was already becoming clear that our land will be turned to a war zone on a course that bear none of our interest.
At least Zik who is an igbo son also supported Nigeria so why are igbos passing this hatred for Yorubas from generation to generation?

[quote author=Akanbi_edu]The reason is simple, Yorubas are the only non-Igbo group in Nigeria that spend too much time arguing with Igbos. This is one of those things I wish I could change about Yorubas. I don't know what we stand to gain by defending or trying to change peoples mind. From my little experience in life, its one of those things that doesn't work. Igbos suffer from confirmation bias, they are only interested in confirming what they were told by their parents.

They abuse every other person, but you don't see people responding to them. In fact, the Hausa-fulani is the most abused people in Nigeria but they don't even appear bothered. Thats self-assurance if you asked me.

Let Yorubas drop the idea that they can win debates/arguments based on prejudices.

#Agbalagba se nu kodoro,

I wun nma se wa ninu mi.

agbalagba se nu kodoro#

Act, stop talking.[/quote]I agree with you to some extent but these people are revisionist and with their propaganda skills if not challenged they are capable of rewriting our history just to satisfy their bigoted minds. And to make matters worse we have a lot of Yoruba youths who are politically naive and ignorant, Hausas are very politically informed so they usually don't need to argue with these people.

CHESSBOARD: The people that actually fought IGBOs were Yorubas, You forget that Adekunle and Obasonjo have been boasting how they finish the IGBOS while AWO used hunger to kill 3 million IGBOS and Use their money to give Yorubas free Education, now tell me who actually fought the WAR

Awo used igbo's money to fund free education are you for real?

sbeezy8: Arthur Eze giving Abdulsalami abubakar (who actually fought against biafra) handshake

https://www.imostateblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/DSC_0184-640x4302.jpg

What I find ironic is that you never see people like Arthur Eze attacking Hausa Fulani and many northern tribes that fought the war against Biafra it's only Yorubas they can attack.

revolt: igbo domination under BritiSh rule? Hmm na wa o ! Ofcos nobody faults the dominant nmba of igbos in the service then but it shuld b noted they got in there by MERIT, nt the latter service pensioners tht were beneficiaries of bigotry n quota system

So the British ruled Nigeria in the 60's? Abi na dem dey responsible for recruitment even in the 50's?
Merit is when igbo take over 90% of govt scholarships in a country of over 200 ethnic groups? too much for igbo merit.

ilugunboy: Can you please just shut up already and stop spewing utter inanities and bull shytee on this forum...it's rather getting irritating reading your comments in this community.

He's an annoying mosquito so just ignore him.

ifechez: ewu yorober!!! how many times have you seen a northerner, either on NL or FCK insulting IGBOS like ndi Yoruba?

Osu igbo from okija shrine, who released you from evil forest ? thunder fire ya mouth! You've been insulting us for ages but when we return fire you'll cry murder. Even igbo elders that we thought should know better always attack us just to gain sympathy of mugu like you. And when they are done with you after election you'll be back to your poverty, yeye man.

sagombugo: Most of the statements are reckless,divisive and laden with unbridled dosage of charlatanism!

Rather than do what is right to promote oneness amongst us,Arthur Eze wants to play a dubious one by saying Ngige went to join 'Awolowo people who killed Ndigbos'

What a pathetic statement from a man of his exposure!

Being rich and exposed doesn't translates to class, Arthur Eze obviously lack class.

ifechez: Ssnusi lamido sanusi said so!!!

Sanusi ko Sanusi ni, how many northerners do you see on NL or Facebook attacking Yorubas like you guys?
Now you're mentioning Sanusi, the same Sanusi you always call his people cows, goats, boko haram, etc?
When did the opinions of goats and cows start to count? Perhaps whenever it's suit your bigoted agenda

chima12: You are a shameless hypocrite.yorubas are the worst when it comes to tribalism.you yorubas are unrivaled when it comes to seeing things through the tribal lens.

Like I said before,it will be disastous for this nation if every other tribe decides to match yoruba achievement in the field of tribalism and ethnic bigotry.you will cry because of the outcome just as you are now crying because of a few statements by some pdp members in onitsha.

Blah blah blah blah blah apart from you guys which other ethnic groups within or outside Nigeria ever complained about Yoruba being ethnic bigots?
If you're looking for bigots look in the mirror, you'll see yourself and many others like you.

chima12: Wasn't it due to hatred that fashola deported Igbos from lagos while branding them destitutes?

Wasn't it due to hatred that awolowo stole funds belonging to Igbos after the civil war and used it to fund free education in the southwest?

Isn't it due to hatred that lagos port is the only port allowed to function while other ports outside yorubaland rot away?

Isn't it due to hatred that so many yorubas engaged in a campaign of calumny against enugu airport international status despite there being no international airport in the southeast before then?

Isn't it due to hatred that yorubas employ the use of arson in other to take over shops and markets from non-yorubas in the southwest?

Fasholas deportation and discriminatory/wicked actions against Igbo owned businesses in lagos was always going to be a campaign issue.you yorubas are the worst when it comes to tribalism,ethnic hatred and bigotry.it will be a disaster for this nation if other parts of nigeria decide to match your achievements in the area of ethnic bigotry and tribalism.

The usual rubbish rant! Are igbos the only ethnic groups relocated? Why must everything about igbos be viewed from tribal lens? Why do you guys have 'all against us mentality' and continue to pass this bitterness to your next generation?
You future and that of your generation is in your hands, if you like destroy it with your ethnic bigotry na you sabi.

What a shame! And some mofos will come here to tell us about how PDP is a national party? If a statement like this were made in Buhari's presence they would have been all over the place telling us that Buhari is a bigot.
I think it's more clear to us why many igbos come here on NL to show their hatred for Awolowo and anything Yoruba, obviously they've been indoctrinated from the cradle by their parents and leaders.

Gov Ajimobi should emulate Fashola, what does he stand to gain from moving in reckless convoy? Is that part of the democracy dividend to Oyo state citizens?
However, Mr Adeosun should be very careful next time because these vagabonds in power can get away with anything, personally I wouldn't take the risk of following the governor's convoy after such incident because if you get killed you'll only die for nothing.

noblezone: The problem is that our people are more Nigerian than all the others, and that is why they always loose!
While Awo built his Western region, Bello built his Northern region and what did Zik do? He was busy shouting "one" Nigeria.
And after 100 years, Nigeria has refused to be one.

In Nigeria, it is only our people that travel all over the place developing other people's lands, while leaving ours to deplete. Only to be killed at slightest excuse as if they are less than goats.

Our people must come together and build a regional force that will protect our interest pending when the Biafran flag will fly to fall no more.

I have to agree with you on this to a large extent, right from the formation of this entity called Nigeria no other ethnic group want one Nigeria more than the igbos.The reasons for this is best known to igbo leaders.

@igboson
You can keep ranting for all I care, you still didn't make any point. Accusing me of igbophobia is the new trend among people like you who are very quick to accuse people with contrary views to others as bigots.

There's nothing new in your post and its similar to several other posts by many igbo posters like you on NL, just the usual emotional trash.
You haven't provided any proof of this deliberation to get rid of igbos in the north and even if such deliberation ever happened it still cannot be viewed in isolation. The hatred between the 2 ethnic groups is 'mutual' and its evident in the events that happened after the first igbo coup and the counter coup by the hausas.
You might call it conjectures, you might the describe the first coup as an ' unfortunate' incident or you might even call it whatever you feel like but the fact still remains that it was an igbo coup. The participants in the counter coup believed it was an igbo coup, many northerners who participated in the pogrom against the igbos also see it the same way. The only group of people who see it in a different way are igbos themselves and as I stated in my earlier comment this issue has been discussed before so it will be a waste of time for me going through it here again.

Also, your comparison of Sadauna to other dictators I insist is ridiculous, irrelevant and not sensible especially in the context of this thread.
Firstly, the OP started a thread on why Sadauna is being used as a moral compass however, the video he posted was about sadauna's interview on what he feels about igbo and why he would rather not employ them in the northern civil service. He talked about his fear of igbo domination and the fact that it will be a waste of investment to employ them on permanent contract when northern youths who were presently being trained can take these positions after training.
As a Nigerian I do not know of any way or manner in which sadauna has ever been used as a national moral compass and if you know of any kindly post it here. Therefore, my comment about the poster being either ignorant or mischievous was borne out of the fact that the title of the thread does not relate to the video he posted.
There is no where in the video where he called for killings of igbos or taking over their businesses, he was merely being territorial and protecting the interest of the north simple.
On the issue of igbos being greedy, I do not intend to generalise on that however, the events that happened then cannot but confirmed the fact that many igbos then in the civil service were greedy otherwise how can one explain the fact that out of over 200 ethnic groups in Nigeria only igbos got over 90% of the federal government scholarships? . Unfortunately, little issues like this is what usually set people's emotions on fire and like it or not a lot if politicians from other tribes including Akintola formed their opinion on igbos due to these events.
You can request for my ethnic origin till Kingdom come, I have told you its irrelevant to this topic and I'm not going to oblige you that request, so stop making useless emotional rants.
There is nothing called igbophobia, its a figment of your imagination. I don't hate igbos, have nothing negative against igbos, in fact I'm completely indifferent about igbos. However, you're free to call me whatever you like as I don't care. You don't know me and I don't know you, this is a faceless forum so you're free to rant as much as you want, it doesn't move me an inch.

Onuokwu: "Omonile" dey for Enugu o! ...especially for Nike area.

He he he lwtmb bad behaviour dey spread very quickly.

[quote author=IGBO-SON]^^^You really are funny! You know that don't you?

I suppose b'cos being a ruthless and brutal dictator was 'fashionable' at the time, we can now give the likes of Pol Pot, Mobutu, Emperor Bokassa and even bros Adolf.......we can overlook all their misdeeds abi? And who told you the gov't of the Northern Region at the time didn't have it in for Igbos?; have you read transcripts of deliberations on the floor of their regional assembly?.....the plans they were making to rid themselves of Igbos in their region?

No offense but you sound quite dense with your assertion on Ndigbo wanting 'one Nigeria' more than the likes of say Yorubas and Fulanis! You conveniently forget the fact that we wanted to see the back of hateful moro/ns like you in the late 60s, but you shed blood to keep us as 'fellow countrymen'! You say we want one Nigeria on our terms?; well you got that right!.....terms encapsulated in the Aburi accord, which Gowon was arm-twisted to use for toilet paper the moment he came back to Nigeria! This is an agreement many honest Nigerians are now saying we should revisit! An updated version of 'our terms' as you call it can also be found in the recommendations Ohaneze have made to the proposed national conference! And if you've got time on your hands, you can also check out the 'terms' of the Yoruba as captured by the Afenifere......it's a good read as well!

All that rubbish you put up there about Ndigbo being 'greedy'......i think i'll pass! I suppose you can furnish me with examples of ethnicities that are paragons of selflessness, altruism, benevolence and saintliness? You listed 'examples' of Igbo greed and avariciousness; we can now see how those that took over managed to fix things, and rectify what the 'bad Igbos' did to your country! Of course they taught Igbos how to govern selflessly and were shinning examples of outstanding morality, always putting others and the entire nation first.....shunning nepotism, laziness, greed, visionless, vindictiveness and hate!

So you honestly think Nzeogwu had in mind to bring about the domination of Nigeria by Ndigbo? Can you -hand on heart- honestly say this is what you believe his actions were aimed at achieving.....or you're just yarning dust just to try and paint Igbos as bad?

LOL@ 'the british -not the owners of Nigeria and their helpers- are to be blamed for keeping Ndigbo in Nigeria! Pray, can you tell me exactly what the British did or said to the 'northerners' that forced them to stay back in Nigeria against their will?


PS- What's your ethnicity if you don't mind......just curious! [/quote]All you've done is blab about yet you make absolutely no point in your posts:
1. How did you come to conclusion that Sadauna has to be in the class of pol pot, Mobutu, Bokassa and other ruthless dictators you mentioned in your posts? give me any verifiable fact to show how they compare. You lack basic logical reasoning in your argument by comparing him with those dictators, its like comparing apples with oranges absolutely no correlation whatsoever. You are comparing a regional premier to an absolute dictator? are you for real?
You talk about plans to get rid of igbos, I ask you what plans? you feel you can hold on to some people plans what about igbo plans that resulted in the first coup and the killings of other regional leaders?
2. I still stand by my comment that igbos want one Nigeria most albeit on their own terms, you have not post any reasonable argument to counter my claims. The events that happened after the counter coup, the Aburi accord and the civil war was because igbos lost out, if another igbo general happened to emerge as the head of state there is no doubt that the issue of secession by igbos would never have been raised.
I will not even take your bait to go into any lengthy debate as issues relating to civil war, the aburi acord and even the coups has been discussed extensively on this forum and elsewhere, so if you're still curious (which I doubt, as you already have you mind made up) google is your friend.
3. You may want to put the entire blame of the civil war on the feet of others as usual so I am not surprised however, accept it or not the British govt are greatly responsible for keeping igbos in Nigeria, without their backing the events of the civil war might have taken a different turn and there is a possibility that the country may even end up fragmented that anyone can imagine as many other ethnic groups also have their agenda.
4. On the igbos being greedy, I have provided my reasons for that comment so the onus is on you to disprove my reasons, all the jargon you wrote as response makes no sense, its just one of those ways writers like you hide behind clever use of grammar to divert attention from the main topic.
5. The coup is not about Nzeogwu alone it involves Zik,Okpara and several igbo politicians so talking about their plans for igbo domination is common sense. Nzeogwu was just a tool they have to use to achieve their aim.
6. Asking about my ethnicity to satisfy your curiosity is ridiculous, its just a way for you to bring up the usual stereotype you have for each tribe. If i tell you I am Yoruba, you already have your mind made up about Yorubas likewise if I am Hausa so it is irrelevant to this topic.

One of the reasons why I find it ridiculous that visas to USA are being granted via lottery. I've never been a fan of this lottery thingy, give visas to those who have the skills and experience you need not just anyone who's lucky enough to win it via lottery.

Pardon my typing errors, I'm typing on phone.

@Igboson
If you say that Sadauna does not deserves national award or recognition that's fair enough and I'm not even going to argue that with you. The fact that I conpare the 60's in Nigeria to other countries of the world does not mean I equate Sadauna to the likes of Botha, I'm just opening eyes to how backward the world was then. At least Sadauna didn't prevent igbos from doing their trade or attend schools funded by the northern region govt so where does this comparison with Botha comes from?

I still stand by my earlier comment that igbos want one Nigeria most albeit on their own terms.
During the time of regional govt which ethnic group migrate to other regions most either to take jobs in civil service or to trade?..igbos
Which ethnic group dominated the federal civil service? ...igbos
Who dismantled the regional govt after the igbo coup?..Ironsi
Who made a declaration that since Nigeria is now a unitary state civil servants from the east can now work in other regions?...Ojukwu
People like Akintola make what you term as hate speeches to sensitize their people about igbo domination.
How do you explain the fact that igbos dominated the civil service to the extent that igbo language became the lingua franca? Even most federal government establishment in Western region was manned by igbos, this is not because there were no qualified persons from tribes but purely because of greed.
After Akintola's party came to govt they discovered that over 90% of govt scholarships were granted to igbos, they have to reverse it and accommodate applicants from other ethnic groups.
It was only after the counter coup that the igbos realise that their ambition to dominate Nigeria could no longer be possible that they decided to secede. If the counter coup produced another igbo, I'm sure the issue of secession wouldn't have been thought of.
In fact after the counter coup the northerners were very keen to secede but were stopped by the British for their own selfish reason. The British are to be blamed for keeping igbos in Nigeria.