alsudan:
Lovely guy, far better than Thiefnibu.

But him as Candidate of APC will be a walkover for Atiku.

The North are just waiting for APC to make that mistake so that they can use his Pastor title as Propaganda to finish him, and without the support of the SE/SS to back him up, the elections will be so one sided.

You are so ignorant. Osinbajo as more northern support than Tinubu.

Two RCCG churches I know were vandalized. What are they talking about.

Can you all see how NATO is doing everything to start a world war?

Safyqueen:


CAN called the attention of all their members for a peaceful demostration for justice on killing Deborah who made a blasphemy to the Noble Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wa sallam, a student of Shehu Shagari College of Education Sokoto last week.
1. Why only Deborah?
2. Is it because she perfectly did what she was thought to do in the church?.
3. Because she was killed by the Muslims?
4. She is the only Christian fellow they care about?
5. or because she is the only one who has family?

In some days back, IPOB killed two innocent couples brutally, the couples that are serving the Nation and they where killed at the time this country needed them more. And both of them are Christian believers. They made a full video of the killing and sent to the entire globe through social media. The video that you will never wish to watch twice because of the dirtiest act in it.

1. Why CAN didn’t ask it’s members for a demonstration against it?
2. Are they not attending weekly service in the church?
3. Because they were killed by their brethren Christians?
4. Because they are serving the nation as Soldiers?
5. Because they don’t have family who care about them?
I need CAN or any other person who is asking for justice for Deborah to please clarify these.

In addition Deborah was a criminal because of what she has did and she has finally found justice.
6. And please what is the crime of Linus and Gloria?
7. Why they don’t deserve the support of CAN to put pressure on government to find their killers for justice?

And in the Bible MATTHEW 15 V 4 JESUS Said ”Whoever curses his parents should be stoned to death” and LEVITICUS 24 V 10-16 says “The penalty for BLASPHEMY is DEATH”. For Deborah, a devoted Christian, these verses from the Bible justified her killing. Even the Nigerian court declared the act of Deborah as CRIMINAL OFFENCE whose penalty is death.

The last question is, please tell me the crime of Linus and Gloria that they deserve the type of punishment they received from their people?

Without the answer of those questions, this indicate that CAN is nothing but a group of animals who always fight for no reason, and a group that doesn’t want our dear country Nigeria to live in peace!!!

Can you see the mentality of someone under the opium of Islam. Why anyone in this 21st century will belong to a cult that kills people and still be ok defending it is truly sad. Sad that such person is completely hypnotized and demonized to even dare to think like humans anymore. It's so sad that one will let him/herself loose all sense of reasoning just to please a prophet they have never seen- it's really sad that a group can dehumanize and debase a person to such extent. It just so sad

Priapus69:
"Hope, the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strengths and your greatest weakness"

Matrix Revolutions.

I have been saying this thing since 2015 and everyday I see it coming to pass.

1. The North (Hausa Fulani) have no intention of leaving the Presidecy
2. The plot is to divide and rule.
3. Demarket the presidential candidate of APC, support several power blocks in APC South so that many southern block that are suppose to work together will be working against each other and nder the assurance by northerners that they are the one presidency supports.
4. Then bring in a candidate from another party (Atiku) who they will all line up behind irrespective of party. So while they divide the South (Still assuring their candidates of victory till the very end), they are behind another notherner from another party.
5. When the person in questions (Atiku) wins, they migrate to the new party.

Many have said I don't know what I am saying but it as began to reveal itself. How else will you explain taking over every ministry and government parastatals knowing fully well they will be ousted in 2023? It's because they have a stay-put plan.

I only hope our greedy southern leaders can see this early.

haslaw:
We will not vote in a poppet and a lapdog of Enoch Adeboye who is a Christian extremist.

Enoch Adeboye is a desperate power hungry man who thinks he could gain power and control the country through his poppet Oshibajo. Osinbajo is more loyal to Enoch Adeboye than to Nigeria.

There is no difference between Enoch Adeboye of RCCG and Abubakar Shekaw of Boko Haram. They are basically the two sides of a coin as they are both religious bigot and extremist who are desperately trying to gain control of the country.

Through his poppet, bigot Enoch Adeboye has been hunting down and persecuting northerners. He has made sure certain key officers have been sacked in a malicious way to pave way for the take over of the nation.

Osinbajo doesn't appoint northerners to any position and he has been hunting down and sacking the ones appointed by the government.

To people like extremist Enoch Adeboye, being a norther and not of the RCCG is a capital crime and should be punished.

Say all the rubbish you want. You will still not bully us. We are stronger than you. You are obviously scared of what is coming

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Praxis758:





RCCG is not like any of those tribal or fanatic bodies you mentioned. Afenifere, Ohaneze and NEF and ethnic bodies while MURIC is an Islamic activist without a single place of worship.


RCCG is multi-ethnic, cross-cultural, multi-racial with people from different countries, professions, class and races.

It is filled with members who are either APC, PDP, PRP, AAC, SDP, APGA, LP YDP etc. it’ll be a great injustice, disservice and disenfranchisement for the leaders of such a huge church to say their members should vote for so, so and so person.

Sentiments and emotions are out when leading such a huge church. And no church of Christ should take side in political matters BUT can only take side when theirs injustice, persecution or corruption.

Did you see the video where Northern Elders Forum, Arewa, and some other Multi cultural, multi-ethnic group of people with different political biase (APC, PDP etc) making definitive statement about who or which group the want to support? Are they entitled to such opinion? Off cause they are. Politics is a game of numbers, strategy and structures - an exact depiction of what the church is.
We have numbers, strategy and structure and you cannot tell us to keep quiet. That is unspiritual, immoral and unconstitutional. Every group has a right to pursue what will be of interest to them. The president of Nigeria is of immense interest to the church and you cannot tell them to be neutral about his selection. That time of ignorance as past.
An average Muslim is taught politics from their young age right from the mosque. Decisions on who to vote for is preached in the mosque. Many riots started immediately after Friday prayer because they are motivated to action from the mosque. It is callous or ignorance to say Christians should not decide who rules them, we are not zombies. Let me add, this is not even about RCCG alone. All the Christian body should and would come together for 2023. Our interest must begining to count.

In those days in school, politics was left for anyone until Christian in all the Fellowship came together to say they will be part of who becomes the SUG president After few years, only the school fellowships political aspirants where winning the elections and guess what, it did not divide the fellowships, it made them more united. If it can be done in the schools, it can be done in the country.Politics will always remain a game of numbers.

Praxis758:
A pastor as an individual is different from the church as a body.

A pastor can decided to be apolitical while the church as a body cannot and should not.

Any statement made to drag RCCG as a body into partisan politics shouldn’t be encouraged. Such is enough to erode the foundation of the church.

Any pastor who come out to issue partisan press statement on behalf of the church should be disciplined and excommunicated to serve as a deterrent for others.

Winning election has always been done with a body of people with similar believes. Why do you think they say this person will win because he as a structure- what is a structure? Politics is a game of numbers and without doubt those who are coordinated, populous will always take the day - no wonder the south always goes to beg the north why? numbers.

Neutrality is what has made us pray and pray and Nigeria is becoming worse because we feel prayer alone can do it - there you have it. These same politician will go to the churches to canvas for votes asking you to take a stand with their part and when we want to do it on our own, they start shouting be neutral. They however will not tell their structures to be neutral. Arewa Consultative Forum is not Neutral, Ndigbo are not neutral, Afenifere is not Neutral, MURIC is not but the church should be neutral. Are we Ok? We know they will take us serious when we are no longer neutral.

My Take On Pastor Olaniyan (Head of Politics and Governance in RCCG) Comment of Prof. Osinbajo's Presidential Ambition

Please be open minded to here me out.

We must not submit to this kind of intimidation. He is a Nigeria and there is no legal, moral or spiritual implication for him expressing his fundamental human right of presidential choice. Some say he should be neutral because of the position he holds. Since when should a public leader be neutral in their expression of interest. Daddy G.O. can express the food he likes, the car he likes, the people he loves,his religious inclination but when he says who he wants to vote for all hell will be let lose.
Why can't the church see that we are being bullied. Buhari insisted on an APC chairman and nothing happened, Tinubu insisted removing Ambode and nothing happened, MURIC said they are not voting Christians and nothing happened, I recently saw a video of Muslims in Mecca during Hajj chanting that Tinubu must win, yet nothing happened but just let a Christian leader, especially from RCCG express his political opinion all hell will be lose.

Why are we not seeing that we are been intimidated to keep silent. We cannot continue to remain in darkness and be happy to let this same people rule us and intimidate us to keep quiet - common!!! They know the power we wield and they are trying to keep the giant sleeping. Why are we not seeing this? Every Christian who support this evil manipulation and intimidation is fighting against the glory of this country because we know if a righteous man or one with a semblance of righteousness get there (Presidency) the whole country will be turned around. Christians, Muslims, traditionalist will be safe and will prosper because their leader will be sincere and will work for the betterment of the country, not for a group, a tribe or a selfish or devilish ambition.

I will not accept this strategic bullying and you should not if the glory of Nigeria means anything to you. The pastor who asked for Pst. Olaniyan's resignation is sadly either ignorant or is working for this intimidators. Everyone irrespective of their tribal or religious inclination, should rise to lift this country out of the hands of scavengers who have rules over and over again and brought us to this state of decadence. I will not be bullied, I have right to the choice of who becomes my president irrespective of my religious inclination or the group I lead. If my group respect my judgement on other serious aspect of life, I am at liberty to also express my judgement on who should lead them, though it is still in their power to chose.

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No matter how you all try to rub the church in the mud on politics, you will fail. When MURIC speaks you are quiet. Someone is even saying MURIC predicted it - are you all for real. Is MURIC neutral?
Recently, a video of Nigerians chanting in Mecca during their hajj that Tinubu will win was been circulated. No one spoke about that but let Christian talk and all hell with be let loose.

What you guys don't know is that we have gone past that stage where the church will be intimidated into hiding again. If we believe Osinbajo is the one, we will say it without any apology. You go shout your own too, we have the right to exercise our fundamental human right as individuals and as an influencial group. Those days of being quiet and neutral is gone, trust me. We can have all that power to make this country great and you ask us to be neutral. Even God will judge us.

Some will even say RCCG is a church of different people from different political party -correct. So is Abia , Kwara, Sokoto, Rivers state and you can't stop the governor or leaders from saying or chosing who they want their people to vote for, simple.
Let me say again, every attempt to stop or intimidate the church from saying who they want will not work - you have the choice to say you'll accept their choice or refuse. We have seen enough darkness with Buhari to wake us up from our sleep. I only pity those who are tossed to and fro like sea waves, every news sway they decision and they come online and say what they know so little about. We are wiser now and we will support our own, Osinbajo or any other person we have tried and tested to have a form of godliness and good conscience to change this country.

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WhizdomXX:
Osibanjo is Tinubu's last card in this game. Tinubu knows that Buhari doesn't care about any of them. This so called "rift" is a ploy by Tinubu so that Buhari will finally settle on the VP as APC'z consensus candidate. Tinubu learnt from the recently concluded APC National Convention that Buhari actually calls the shot in APC today no matter the Billion vans or "Yoruba National Leader". He doesn't want to lose out on both sides and that's why Osibanjo is contesting. Believe me, they've planned this strategy along time ago. Tinubu's declaration was just to test the waters if he could earn it outrightly in repayment for his efforts. But seeing that the fulanis cabals want to play a fast one on him he has played his Trump card, Osibanjo. By the end of next month everything will be revealed.

Mark this post.
And yes I will vote Yemi Osibanjo over Atiku A.
Both were VPs and one has even more blame for the many stolen resources under his watch.
Proud Deltan.

Interesting analysis. If this is true, then I dove my hat for Tinubu for being the master of the game.

Truly, the north may not want him but they cannot overrun the duel of Tinubu and Osibanjo if they are in sync.

I have always thought the North (Hausa Fulani)as no intention of leaving the Presidency. I mean how do you explain Buhari's disregard for quota that about 80% of key positions are given to Fulani. If they intend to exit, they won't be that daring knowing it all ends in 2023.

The only checkmate is your analogy. Things will be fun to watch if you are correct.

Orangedreams:
You see my problem with today's church, in those days God revealed things to men of God. How come as anointed as Pastor Enenche for once both him and the wife and as spiritual as the claim could not sense, percieve or hear from the spirit what this lady was passing through in the hands of her husband?

Again, I smell lies from this long epistle. A top singer of the church like this woman, pastor can't tell me he never heard for once what she was passing through at home. But of course it has happened everyone wants to pull their heads off that is the system we find ourselves.

More, some of these pastors make themselves too distanced from members and too busy also that members don't even have the space to get closer to them how much more to share their pains. They have becomes gods and presidents with heavy securities and protocols. Even to see some takes more than 3months, a pastor o.

All na cruise abeg.

RIP to her.

Why are you bitter about anything that has the name of God to it.God can decide to hid from his servant anything he wants. Elijah's host lost her son and Elijah said " God has hidden this thing from me...". It is the likes of you that will accuse Elijah of being fake and also accuse God of not been God for allow the devil to plot an overthrow against him right under his watch. Why don't you just keep quite when a matter is beyond your comprehension. Must you talk?

I know many will still not believe. The plan is to put the south at logger head and later support underground another Hausa Fulani like Atiku. These people are not divided across parties when it comes to making sure a Fulani is in charge. For them, It's tribe and religion first before any other thing. God will disgrace them in 2023.

this is what this country has become. Cattle breeders' are endorsing presidential candidate.

NORSIYK:
He's apologizing because he was caught.
He's not apologizing because he's remorseful

Common, stop been a nag. What about millions who were caught and didn't apologies. Isn't it the natural cause of things that people usually apologize because they where caught or accused? I am sure you can count with your fingers is any, the number of people who had apologized without been caught or accused. Only a remorse fellow will apologize after been caught, there are many who will deny it or not make any apology.

Three advice: advice 1 is invalid if your husbands comes home everyday of the week.

1. If you husband doesn't come home everyday or he disappear after some time, then he probably has all the children he needs in the world for another woman you are not aware of. He is only catching fun with you perhaps.

2. Ask him to give you a timeline or the year he will be ready so that you all work towards it.

3. It;s only a woman who can decide when to have kinds. Use your head and have what is legitimately yours through him

Sleep paralysis is demonic. That it has a name does not make it normal.

I use to have it way back then when I visited my uncle. We where two who came on holiday and we both experience same sleep paralysis at the same time.

I once had a weird experience with it while I was in school, living in a private apartment with other students as neighbors . I was under sleep paralysis and was struggling, I don't know how it happened, but I suddenly felt my spirit literarily leaping out of my struggling body and grabbed the neck of my neighbor (a female student) who was on top of me. As i did, she came off me and I woke out of the sleep paralysis.

After I fully surrendered my life to Christ it stopped. Never happened again. Give it a name, describe its symptoms or whatever - it is still foolishness to think its a natural occurrence. They are just giving you a reason not to fight your demonic attack.

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I have said this again and again but Southerners will not listen. This is northern divide and rule tactics.

They drum support for different southern power brokers. They support them with money and enough sweet talk just so they feel they have northern support. By doing this, they divide the southern votes between different southern power brokers who would have a put their weight into making one person president.

On the Northern part, they already agree on who they will vote for and drum support for. However pockets of them pretend to support southern candidate for the aforementioned purpose. Just before election, they shift side and also persuade the one they are supporting to follow suite.

So while we have 2 million votes. Split into a million between north and south. Souths splits its own between about 5-7 power broker and North gives its own to one.

Not that they wont have anothe opposing leaders in the north, but they will choose an opposition who works underground for the consensus leader or who as no political weight in the north. So you see result like (For 2 million votes)

Atiku = 920,000
Tambuwal =75,000
One unknow malam = 5,000
Orji Uzo = 120,000
Tinubu =400,000
Osinbajo = 300,000
Dave Umahi = 95,000
Ayade =85,000

Atiku carried the day - election free and fair.

If you have noticed recently, It is northern politicians that are drumming support for southern candidates. You think they don't know what they are doing?

Only God will save us from this our southern greedy leaders who keeps falling for this same political trick from the north.

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saphiere:
I am very much displeased with the unprofessionalism displayed by the mods of this great forum.
A nitwit came here and open a thread and called a lady who he is yet to catch cheating a "public toilet" and such thread was allowed to grace the front page of this forum. On the same thread he claimed he has multiple women. The lady only told him to meet her in an "open bar" he has requested the lady meet him in a hotel room or his house of which the lady declined. He ran here to call her a "public toilet".

I saw the post and was disgusted at the entitlements mentality of the OP. Its a shame we still have men who think like this in this age and time. Who think they can cheat and no woman is allowed to cheat on them. Its a shame people with such mentality still exist.

Ultimate plan of Buhari led APC - scatter APC and line up behind Atiku for Fulani continued presidency. If you know, you know

Nbote:
Which Senate? Why did U think they were hellbent on removing Saraki?

What I am saying is that we should stop trying to ask Buhari to change and focus our fire on the Senate. There are many of them APC, and PDP who wants a change but the problem is who will bell the cat. If we the people push their hand, they will have no choice than to remove the president or remove the rubber stamp Senate president.

I am still appalled why many Nigerians are still blaming Buhari. Buhari has made up his mind to be who he is and he is hell bent on achieving is goal irrespective of what chaos or anarchy it brings to the people. It is obvious he is not going to change. However, there is a Senate of the Federal Republic of Nigeria who has the constitutional authority to check him or impeach him but they are doing nothing, allowing him to keep continue promoting this chaos we have found ourselves.

The problem we have is not Buhari, it is the Senate and the sooner we turn our anger to the senate to remove Buhari the better it is for us. We cannot have a senate with the constitutional power to stop this anarchy and they seat there doing nothing and crying fowl. If they will not remove him, then lets call for the removal of the Senate president. Who apparently, has the same agenda as the president. If not, why will he seat there and do nothing. We need to face our true enemy.

Your enemy is not the thief that comes to burgle your house, it is the security man who connived with them and did nothing or aided their coming in.