₦airaland Forum

KingEbukasBlog:
Lmao ... seriously are you taking it personal



Baptism records ?



Again this is a daft statement

Care to show how you got the baptism records or the source of your data? Have you ever heard of uncertainty in data collection? Oga sit down one side lol

KingEbukasBlog:
Idiot . It was done through extrapolation - this is an erroneous method of determining the religiosity of a population . Puny-brained zombie did they ask the entire population to ascertain that information ?

Lol the religious mind when in a difficult spot scream insults!

Is there any form of data collection that captures 100% of the target population? Your previous quote that 71% of Norwegians identify as Christians did the data set capture 100% of the population?

Keep lying for your dead zombie God

KingEbukasBlog:
Lmao this pillock ! Estonia is an atheist country . You just shot yourself on the foot . This is epic .

Romania is not a poor country . In fact , Romania's economy is booming !

Your name should be GeneralZombie . So you can lead your imbecilic kind to destruction with ludicrous claims and spurious information

I made a general statement about poor eastern European countries and it stands firm. They are generally more religious that there Scandinavian counterparts.

I have shown you evidence that Norwegians identifying as Christians does not necessarily imply that they are religious.

Romanians are leaving there country in droves to move to wealthier European countries. Why do you think the UK wants to leave the EU? Keep lying for Jesus

KingEbukasBlog:
Lmao ... so you went to edit this post and poured a myriad of spurious information in the front page of a public forum . Finland are currently facing economic crises and her leaders are worried over this development . By the way , Finland is a Christian country though they are facing economic challenges .


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11993040/Finland-emerges-as-the-new-sick-man-of-Europe-as-euros-worst-performing-economy.html

http://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/07/whats-happening-to-finland-economy/


A Nigerian who lived in Norway admitted the country is not religious as per their dedication to their faith not unbelief . The country has been a christian country and will always be . Technology has provided means of attending live church services with your mobile devices and laptops - that explains why there are low attendances in churches .


Atheists here on Nairaland are pathetically distasteful in their desperate futile attempt to denigrate religion . Religion does not stop a government from advancing . It's not even long ago , the Lagos State government shut down so so many churches over noise population - this couldn't have happened if it was being influenced by Religion .

You lot are vacuous entities !

So you agree that Norwegians do not go to the church at least physically. We are making head way. Now you claim that this must be because of technology, how did you come to this conclusion?



According to the most recent Eurobarometer Poll of 2010,

22% of Norwegian citizens responded that "they believe there is a God".
44% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force".
29% answered that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force".
5% answered that they "do not know".
Phil Zuckerman, an Associate Professor of Sociology at Pitzer College, estimates atheism rates in Norway as ranging from 31 to 72%, based on various studies.

Keeping lying for Jesus! it seems you desperately need majority of Norwegians to believe in your imaginary God to reassure your delusions. I'm sorry to burst your bubbles!

Forex is hardly ever steady! Even the dollar and the pound, this is a known fact.

However, the instability of the naira is unprecedented, over the past three decades Naira has maintained a steady downward trend at an average 12% per annum.

Given this reality, I believe it is time for us to swallow pill of not just devaluing the Naira but allowing market forces to determine it's price. This will eliminate the parallel market, currency speculation and rent seeking.

Lastly, I want to stress that anyone blaming PMB alone for the fate of the naira is being unfair. PMB is not the sharpest tool in the toolbox but the blame should be equally distributed to all past Nigerian leaders!

They are all dumb,clueless and irresponsible. All of them!

KingEbukasBlog:
Another ignorant post from Johnydon22 . The Chinese are the MOST superstitious people on earth but have the fastest growing economy in the world - their rate of development makes America insecure . Ethiopia is a very religious country and has the fastest growing economy in Africa , many business reports say they'll soon upstage China . Norway is the most advanced in the world and has over 76 percent of its population identify as Christians.

Invariably , atheists equate unbelief in a deity to advancement - an egregious display of ignorance , a flagrant denial in the face of facts , and should be ashamed of their futile attempts to delineate the religious as backward .

I am not saying that despicable practices should be condoned but they do not impede advancement or development

I have one simple question for you, why do you believe in a God?

Superstition is so firmly rooted in the Nigerian culture that there is no respite in sight, 50 years from now nothing will change.

It is heartbreaking for me to see my friends and family organise fasting and prayers to pray for long life,prosperity, protection, energy supplyetc. But then again , It is difficult to discard religion and superstition in a failed society like Nigeria where basic social amenities are non-existent.

Please there is a notion being peddled on this forum by some mischievous Christians that Norway is a Christian country. This is completely false, it is true that on a face value 80% of Norwegians identify as Christians, only 5% actually go to church or are active Christians.

Scandevians (Denmark, Finland, Norway etc) are the least religious amongst Europeans. Conversely poor European countries like Poland, Romania and Estonia are more religious.

Religion inhibits development, it has been shown over and over again. Lying for Jesus will not change this fact

Tellemall:
1. You don't mean to insult me, but you do anyway. I'm not ignorant. I'm simply unmoved.

2. Atheism bases itself on scientific claims most of the time, and you know it does. How else to disprove religious people if not to go on about science and how it has evidence that religion doesn't have?

I don't care how much energy is needed. If you say it happens then let it happen, PROVE IT. GIVE US THE EVIDENCE YOU ALWAYS DEMAND BEFORE YOU BELIEVE. Where the energy comes from, I can't care. Isn't science advanced enough? If it cannot be recreated then it cannot exist because that means it's a hypothesis and needs evidence to back it up. Surely science can come up with better than telling us everything was a singularity? Surely they can explain what happened to cause the expansion? Surely they know what particles were involved? CERN doesn't know and cannot recreate the particles?

As far as I'm concerned, the big bang isn't a theory. I am very familiar with it but it's a far fetched imagination that thought it up. Show us a big bang and we shall believe. Pangea is easier to believe because plates are still in motion presently.

3. Atheism is believing there is no God. Isn't that belief? That was what cloudgoddess said, not me. She said faith is belief in the absence of evidence.

4. I won't respond to this anymore. The whole "educated" and "scientific" parts that seem to highlight perceived "ignorance" on my part are just tiring. Being so "knowledgeable" must be tiring too. Trying to believe there is no God takes one through the abstract world of physics and chemistry. We don't get to see subatomic particles on a daily basis...

5. Really, I'm done.

6. Smh. Everybody who doesn't believe in what you believe in must be "ignorant".

Thanks.

Like I said, the reason I said you are ignorant on the big bang theory is because you said it addresses the origin of Man. It does not. I am certain you not unintelligent, all my friends are religious and they certainly are not ignorant or fools.

Science does not claim to have all the answers. It simply asks the right questions and attempt to answer them.

The reason I rejected the Christian religion is that it is based on the words of ancient cave men, not because of the big bang. Infact a lot of Christians believe that the big bang is not contradictory to the creation story but lends credence to it.

Atheism is as much as a belief as abstinence is a sexual position.

You shouldn't sleep with your boss and not because you are a Virginia but because it goes against your principles.

The way you lay emphasis on virginity, are you suggesting it's OK for women to sleep with men to keep their jobs as long as they are not Virgins?

Tellemall:
Now you've got a new defense for science and atheism.

Do you think that every experiment can be recreated in the lab? You say.

Try and wrap your head around our solar system, the inherent energy in it. Now consider that our solar system is like a grain of sand on a beach when compared with the whole universe. There are over a billion Suns in the universe, just our sun can supply us with all the energy we need for 10billion years.

Now how do you recreate the bang that expanded to form this universe, including the biillions of Suns,planets, moons in a lab, considering the amount of energy involved ?

Tellemall:
Of course, since that is the backbone of most atheism, the fact that there was a big bang. Because atheists tout science like it's everything to them.

There is no central creed in atheism.

For most atheists like myself, the primary reason I dismiss the existence of a God/Gods is that there is no evidence for any.

Please note that atheism and science are not the same. Science is the systemic study of nature and atheism is a disbelief in gods and the supernatural. You don't need to be a scientist to be an atheist and I know alot Christians that are scientists. Don't conflate the two.

It is rather unfortunate that religion and science disagree on so many issues.

Tellemall:
Such an occurrence is so random, why do you feel it's what brought about mankind?. If you cannot replicate the big bang that brought about intelligent life as your evidence, then do not look down on creation the way Christians say it happened.

I don't mean to insult you but you are very ignorant about the big bang theory.

The big bang theory does not address the origin of mankind, man evolved from a simple life form to a complex life form.

The big bang theory attempts to explain the origin of the universe. The big bang theory also has not attempted to address the state of things before the bang. It simply states said that if the universe has always been expanding, it makes logical sense that it used to be a singularity.

Do we know how the singularity that exploded came to be? No. Do we know how the simple life form that started the evolutionary process came to be? No

But a lot of people are working hard to answer these questions, not disprove a God but to further human knowledge.

The problem with religion is that it makes absurd claims with no proof which actually go against common sense and logic. Eg Creation story.

Tellemall:
Your description of the process by which scientific works are noted is irrelevant. It doesn't answer my questions or make your big bang theory more plausible. It simply shows the randomness of what atheists subscribe to. Atheists sound like everything can be scientifically explained. If that is so, why can't the scientists recreate a big bang?

You do not understand the big bang theory. Study it first then revert back to me.

Tellemall:
Science suddenly doesn't need believers, so why do atheists try to explain everything away with science?

OK. I'm done. This whole atheism thing will never be convincing enough. What's the proof of atheism? Religious people have miracles but what do atheists have? Doubt in everything and not one bit of evidence.

I cannot speak for every atheist but the reason I refer to science on the creation story is because it makes no sense whatsoever. Even as an igbo man, we have our own creation story like the Jews. Why should I believe the Jewish version over the Igbo version? Yet both makes no sense at all whatsoever, they are both ludicrous and absurd

Tellemall:
Atheism is too vague and has no evidence.

But hey, it's a free world. You can believe that you don't believe in God or that you do believe in him. After all, we are all chasing illusions.

Atheism does not make any claim and therefore does not need to provide any evidence.

The burden of proof is on the claimant. I hope this helps

blueAgent:
The same way God warned Nineveh's. by sending Jonah.
Jonah’s Preaching and Nineveh’s Repentance
(3:1-9)
and God himself decieded not to destory them after they repented of Their Sins.

Do you think that if a man commits a crime that killing his infant, especially by smashing the child's head against a rock is justified?

Gr8Adedayo:
by the mercy of Jesus christ, you will not know about the reality of hell after your demise. May God have mercy on you and me too. Hell is real, run for your life, heaven is real, strive to enter. Shalom!

My father is the owner of United States of America, and I can take you to the white house. Just PM and all your problems will be solved!

Did I sound ridiculous? That is how you just sounded.

How do you know heaven is real and hell is real?

Benjom:
May God have mercy on us o.

There is no God, let us work now to make our earth safer for our future generations.

Tellemall:
You strongly believe there is no God. Faith is belief. That's the thing your inner man lives by. And it's an illusion.

The only people who you atheists have a problem with, because they believe in a supreme being, are the Christians. You always say it's an illusion. So your disbelief is a form of belief and is an illusion.

Anyway, I'm done on this. People believe what they want to believe in. All beliefs are right, except when they are wrong. Like atheism is wrong.


Added: the whole operation of science on hypothesis, evidence then theory only applies in things not of faith. Any scientist can tell you that. The mind is a different place entirely. Science can't hold it down. Until I see a recreation of the big bang that produced intelligent life, I'll never believe it. It had no evidence so far.

Do you actually think that every experiment can be recreated in the lab?

The sun is just a tiny fraction of the energy that was released from the big bang, and now you are asking scientists to recreate the big bang just that you may believe.

Science does not wish to make anyone belive in anything, infact you are encouraged to challenge the big bang theory that is how science grows. However, you can not just challenge the big bang theory based on what is written in the bible.

Read other scientific works, study the theory and dismantle it's merits. If your argument is validitated through a peer-review process, You will gain instant global recognition as the man that stated the improbability of the big bang theory.

truthbastille:
Another media trial. Different episodes of telemundo to distract majority from thier sufferings.
Since this charade started last year, no data concerning who has been convicted or how much has been recovered. Now Dasuki's case has lost steam, no more shocking revelations.

Next will be Stella Oduah, Deziani, followed by Obanikoro. Just to keep the media houses busy with trash

Buhari and his band of saints

I am ardent Buhari critic, but I sincerely wish Aba Moro be tried and if found guilty should go to jail

unphilaz:
Its just #commonsense to be courteous enough to ask the questioner to clarify what he is asking.
Its just #commonsense to be mature enough to be patient with whomever you are dealing with.
Its just #commonsense to be understanding that as we have different levels of access to somethings, those with the "full" should be ready to bring those they feel are not upto them with some level of decorum.
Its just #commonsense to know that not all sense is common!

I apologise on behalf of the impatient atheists on NL.
However, if you have been on NL for long you'll understand the reason behind the impatience.

Since 2012 that I dropped religion, myself and a lot of people here have tried to enlighten theists on concepts like the theory of evolution with little or no success.

so why bother anymore? If you are interested in considering a different view, why not go and find it yourself?

Amberon:
Lmao... Atheists tho. How exactly is it criticism to Tell the Truth the away it is Sir? is there a NEW meaning for that word?

The problem is that we atheists are actually telling you Christians the truth that religion is an illusion

Amberon:
Did Christ criticize people's beliefs? No! Christianity is the religion with the highest level of tolerance. USA, Canada and UK are the most welcoming and liberal Nations in the world and theyre all christian Nations. The South of Nigeria is another example.

You mentioned that the UK is a Christian country, can you show this forum how UK is a Christian country?

By what metrics did you reach your conclusion?

Nigeria cannot experience lasting peace and prosperity without addressing the root cause of armed insurgency, and civil unrest.

After you visit Abuja and compare it with say Oyibo in River state, you'll understand that the insurgency was only postponed and not solved.

It will always be a recurring phenomenon, unless poverty and unfair wealth distribution is addressed in the region

No wonder Nigeria is still a third world country

Love Machine:
Does other developed and developing countries erect fences on their railway tracks?

In other developed countries, it is a crime to walk across a train rack. The train tracks are designed in such a way to make it difficult for pedestrians to access it.

I support this project of fencing off rail tracks 200%!

Proudly Igbo by the way

It could have been Seun's son. Chaiii

Anyway Oga Seun, take heart

realjoker:
Steinlein also stated that generation cost for all renewable sources are now at the same level as for fossil fuels without additional external risks such as air pollution and disposal, adding, “let us not forget that renewable energy plants do not require any kind of logistics for fuel supply. It is therefore not surprising that the global capacity in renewables has more than doubled since the beginning of the millennium.”

Renewable energy sources still pose very expensive startup cost, don't believe the hype!

It is however a welcome development

wadetaw202:
I hope you are also appalled by the way Biafran soldiers forced their way into a neutral Midwest and start killing, robbing and raping hapless Bini and asaba women? They also robbed the central bank in Benin. Hope that appalls you too.

I am appalled at the killing of innocents by any party. I am not a Biafran apologist!

KingEbukasBlog:
Norway is the most developed country in the world and she is very religious

Norway is not religious, as there is no religion recognised by the state.

Rational people are calling for complete separation of religion from governance

Mikollon1:
I don't understand the noise about women and children. What about the men killed? Are their lives worth less?

I wrote innocents...

How people justify genocide is unimaginable! I am not a fan of Ojukwu, Awolowo or any of the past elites in Nigeria. I owe none my respect because the Nigeria we see today is a result of their collective actions and inactions.

Chukwudi44 raised an interesting point accusing Murtala Mohamed of war crimes, if this accusations are true historical accounts (a big if), why then are we pouring eulogies on this man?

We need to say no to killing of non-combatants, if not it will continue repeating in Nigeria.

I am igbo but I was appalled at the indiscriminate killing of Shites by the Nigerian army. Killing none combatants, women and children is a war crime.

linearity:
That is how we grew up and learned in Nigeria then and we are better for it.

In fact, it came to a point that, we mastered various methods of enduring those canes without showing any sign and emotions and after the ordeal, look at how your fellow guys and girls will be congratulating you to the disdain of the teacher, sometimes the teacher will even be feeling shameful if we did not show any emotions despite their best efforts.

I got lots of bragging rights then, today's kids are aja butter, imagine how no one is talking about the kid's failure to do his assigment, even the bible said; spare the rod and spoil the child.

Of course you will support the torture of a kid with a medieval book!

RichYoungNigger:
I want an answer to this question.

What do the Yorubas contribute to the economy of Nigeria.

Some times Nigerians ask silly questions! The first silverbird galleria was built in Lagos (a yoruba state).

The biggest port in Nigeria is in lagos! Most companies have their corporate headquarters in Lagos. Now if the Yorubas were awful hosts like some of our brothers in Nigerdelta and were blowing up infrastructure do you think all these will exist in Lagos?

I can't speaking for other Yoruba states, I am Igbo and i used to live in Lagos

franchizy:
Im igbo and i support this action of the military and police.
We the well meaning igbos will never support the Biafra agitation.
we remain Nigerians forever.
****

I am igbo, I do not support Biafra but shooting unarmed protesters is the reason America wants to remove Assad as the president of Syria.

I condemn the shooting of unarmed protesters, people have the right to peacefully protest

Some will dismiss it as wailing by IPOB youth! However ask yourself this question, have you blamed GEJ today?

The hypocrisy of the APC led administration stinks to the high heavens.

We (wailing wailers) tried to warn Nigerians that the APC government is PDP with a different name, we were called names and accused of tribalism.

I want to unequivocally state that PDP supervised the looting of Nigerian commonwealth but make no mistake, the APC led government is no different.

It is business as usual and like my friend will always say, there's no hope for the black man!

If you have ever lived outside Nigeria you will have no party affiliations whatsoever! While I was a student I'm the UK, I had the opportunity of recieveing healthcare from the British system, completely free of charge!

Our leaders should hide their heads in shame that we cannot even manage our health! How can a hospital meant for less that 0.0002% of the population get an allocation that is significantly greater than that meant for the remaining 99.98888% of the population!

Buhari by this singular budget has shown that he is as callous as his predecessors or possibly worse than all of them put together! Rubbish