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bright007: D̶̲̥̅̊Because you dont understand something doesn't give you the right to parodize it. IFA says: Odudua atewon ro i.e. it that descended through a mystical chain. Odudua didn't FELL like those 'fallen angel' you have in semitic religion |
I don't quite get you You said: [quote author=Ileke-IdI]Our history and religion does not support Christianity either, if you want to get technical et al.[/quote]And here you contradicted yourself by saying: [quote author=Ileke-IdI]stop pulling false information out of nowhere. Which historical evidence can you put forth to support the Saudia Arabia origin? And your source needs to be legit. Everyone originated from Adam/Eve.[/quote]So you prefer the Adam and Eve fallacy to Oodua been the primogeniture of the Yoruba race?? |
YouArePhantom What's your take regarding the Yorubas deities? Would you think ours too is another form of super-duper-stitions put in place by those in powers then to control and checkmate the lands in the olden days? Would you reckon that the threats of those deities are fore-fathers propitiated were used to keep people in sane? Was it their masses opium then? noting despite that it didn't offer any reward of heaven or hell |
Kobojunkie: What have you said here? In one or two short sentences, tell us what you think you have said here?No type of government can work here, unless we either: 1. Dis-amalgamate 2. Swear under our ancestral deities |
[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Our history and religion does not support Christianity either, if you want to get technical et al.[/quote]Technical ke! What is technical about offering you the option of a widely accepted theological fabrication; the semitic 'First Parent' - Adam and Eve...which appeals to a lot of modern Yoruba christians and the Saudi origin to the Yoruba muslims. Ileke, there are several sources concerning the origin of the Yorubas: The Odudua Strain The Adam and Eve Fallacy The Saudi Arabia Myth I'd like to know which of the above would you rather give a bit of credence to if not much?
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[quote author=Ileke-IdI]One that does not entertain the origin of Saudi. Our history, be it myth and history, does not suppor these false claims.[/quote]Therefore your argument precludes Adam and Eve!!! |
Maleeq: Call me old fashion. but I don't fancy the tablets. Perhaps my line of work doesn't have a need for it.For performance, speed and power...its always the Desktops |
Is that why my post and image was removed up there...na WA o! All these muslims are too quick to vexed. |
IamPhantom: to whom it may concern above who asked what my guarantee is that my atheist husband would not cheat on me. Oh well,i don't know where that came from. Being an atheist is not guarantee that a person is good,just as a person being religious is not.You were on track until you started typing...'A moral atheist is...' Religion is not and would never be a good thing. How has it kept people in check? Guyana Massacre! How does it keep people in check? Al-qaeda! KKK! If you still think it does then you would agree that it also capable of letting people go out of control. I know you might argue that those are people who've mis-interpreted it and its books..therefore religion is capable of mis-direction and instigation. It nurtures intolerance, fanaticism and extremism. What we have here in Yorubaland before imported religion is a way of life shaped after a unique belief system regulated by various checks and balances.
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[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Stop that! Never heard of it before i came on nL. where are you ppl hearing this fairy tales from? We're not like the Igbos who want to claim white heritage abeg. We know who we are, we know our history and we're hopeful of our future. Yorubas in Benin, Togo and Nigeria were here loooooooooooong before this cesspits called Nigeria was even dreamed about.[/quote]Stop what? My comments doesn't say I accept it. I am just informing you about the dissemination of a false origin of the Yorubas taught in schools. Okay...what is the Yoruba view of their cosmogony? |
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Wallie: A civil war, South vs the North, occurred in the 1860s in the US that prevented the US from splitting. The North won which is why slavery was abolished and the country is still united. Nigeria is not splitting without a war and it is highly likely that anyone opposing Nigeria will be defeated.Dude, don't lecture me about the American Civil War as if it's the appropriate analogy to justify a reason why there ought to be WAR prior to achieving dis-amalgamation. The propaganda that war would be inevitable if anyone dreams of splitting off is a means to instill fear unto those that are ignorant of 'UN Separatist Declaration of Indigenous Right. Did America that you mention came about on the same circumstances as Nigeria? Your suggestion 1 and 4 are characteristics of a self-governing true democractic nation, the rest is lacking in the type here. Please inform me about those democracy-practicing country that was amalgamated? It seems you don't understand what is Amalgamation. America is a state of nations i.e. Nations within a nation. Each American states with their differing laws though united by a commonly shared ideology instituted in a constitution regulated and enforced by a federal body. Now tell me which ideology does the Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa share in common? Isn't all those suggestions of yours what is been currently used? And yet there's still bad roads, no stable electricity supply? Poor medical facilities, lack of clean water system, etc... aren't you living in Nigeria? |
@Ileke Idi There are certain elements in Yorubaland who have long been disseminating the 'ruse' that the Yoruba race migrated from Saudi Arabia. This ruse are continuously are mostly fed to hundred of thousands of Yoruba kids, youths in Islamic schools (Ile Kewu) by Alfas and Imams just to justify their the strong Islamic connection to Yorubaland. Little do these innocent victims of Islamic indoctrinations knows that Islam is the no.1 enemy of the Odua race. Arabs instigated wars among the Yorubas, captured and marched slaves to various Islamic world...just like Arabs till today still deal in black slaves in Mauritania. Arabs and Islam is the no.1 of the Yoruba people. Of the two beasts that devastated Africa for 4centuries, the Arabs were the most vicious. |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Everyday we hear about Yorubas claiming descent from Makkah in Saudi Arabia, Igbos claiming descent from Jews of Israel, Hausa claiming descent from Baghdad (Iraq), kanuri came from Yemen, etc. [size=32pt]So who is actually from NIGERIA [/size][/quote]CORRECTION It is only a heavily islamized Yoruba that will accept and believe his/her race migrated from Saudi Arabia. A true pagan Yoruba knows about our true origin as professes in Ifa. |
tintingz: may GOD bless you for dis link, dey claim d bible is peacefulOkay everyone knows the Bible/Christianity too isn't peaceful, Dem gree....but who kills and still continue to kill innocent people regarded as unbeliever/kaferis? I am not supporting christianity as I am basically anti-religion.. Who is responsible for 9/11....hindus abi? Who is responsible for 2005 London subway bombing?...atheists abi ? Who are responsible for the non-stop organised killings and bombings in middle belt and north Nigerian?......OPC abi? |
tintingz: may GOD bless you for dis link, dey claim d bible is peaceful |
tintingz: may GOD bless you for dis link, dey claim d bible is peacefulOkay everyone knows the Bible/Christianity too isn't peaceful, Dem gree....but who kills and still continue to kill innocent people regarded as unbeliever/kaferis? I am not supporting christianity as I am basically anti-religion.. Who is responsible for 9/11....hindus abi? Who is responsible for 2005 London subway bombing?...atheists abi ? Who are responsible for the non-stop organised killings and bombings in middle belt and north Nigerian?......OPC abi? |
musty1987: [color=#770077][/color]Are those in this pic look like some northerners?
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Phems: We want all Christians to convert to Islam – Boko HaramGlory Be To Allah |
[quote author=@miguel]Kobojunk this is long rubbish[/quote]Truly, a long rubbish. Kobo dey tok like say na we black people invent the concept of fedi e ralism. Person wey do something na im the tin fit work for. Oyimbo man wey formalise various types of government no include we type. No system of government fit thrive for 9ja....no be curse.....Millitary dem, don inject poverty thru years of unchecked corrupt practices..na im dey affect everybody wey be sey even if Kobojunkie sef enter sit of power finish only to succumb to corruption and greed, the 2 beast wey pass anybody power because no one understand rule of law wey dem oyimbo dey observe dats why democracy, federalism, parliamentary fit work for their country cos na Dem create their tin. Let us all tackle the root of the problem first.....AMALGAMTION of incompatible tribes in another words...forcing Kobo junkie to marry a midget...such love no fit last. Either we clamour for our politician who are supposedly to represent our best interest to start swearing their whatever manifestoes and promises under Ayilala, Ogun, Shango and Amadioha or we peacefully dis-amalgamate.....this is 2012 and yet ordinary stable electricity giant of Africa no fit provide im people |
Kobojunkie: If you truly do not consider yourself a Nigeria, what the frell are you doing commenting on a thread that pertains to Nigeria and Nigerian Government?I don't need to degenerate myself by returning the insult to make you realise how illogical your argument crumbles Everyone on this thread is automatically pro-Nigeria government abi? So you really believe your vote or anyone vote counts? Perhaps you haven't heard about rigging before. Your so called leaders *hegemonists* are reputable for that practice for theirs is sophisticated. What has the hullabaloos of voters cards and national IDcards benefited you or anyone on the basis of electoral rights? More goons in power. Don't you know you share equal voting right with an amputee up north...when any scoundrel from Niger or Chad can just walk across the border and outvote your choice, all he needs to claim is an Arabic name Abdul, Yassuf, Ibrahim...if you dig...so what usefullness is voting for...when in fact those who don't respect/abide by the rule of the law they put in place can do and undo with impunity...so how does my vote count. I am sure you know democracy here is illusory and deception... so abeg I no be small pikin wey no know anytin like you wey dey go by the book wey people wey write am sef no even proof read. You think you are a Nigerian? Abi? No one is a Nigerian by choice...you just like everyone is a Nigerian by force...was anyone's consent sought before it was crudely crafted in 1914 through a process called amalgamation (Unity by force) by the British to serve the economic interest of the Britain. Go dig for extra-curricular, undoctored history book to get the truth. Something whose foundation isn't natural is ofcourse bound for doom. I am not a pessimist used to hope for a better nation which I now understand is far from reality...how can anyone fix something that was programmed for self-destruction? Okay o KoboJunkie...tell me one thing, just a single thing to be proud of in Nigeria? To understand my POV, read my post here: www.nairaland.com/959338/israel-offers-illegal-africans-cash/1#11061002 |
ayobase: So Im confused cos I believe in something, and u r not cos u believe in nothing!Ofcourse I believe in something but you are too aggressive to note that. |
emixmasters: this topic came to mind when i watched this video titled Only in africa @Since I the video is unable to stream on my phone...what's it about? |
maclatunji: ^PeleYou shouldn't have used the yoruba 'pele' to apologise. You should have put it in arabic. |
logicboy: Maclatunji aka the MAC-daddy, the MACnificent, the MACnanimous, the BIG MAC,Logic boy u too much....your composition made me bust into laughter Mind pointing me to those debates you had with them before getting banned? |
Afrocentric Bible analysed how The Holy Bible was so written as to paint/portray the Black man as the devil....so why would any black be in their Heaven? |
fellis: Good grief how exhasperating.Am sure you must have watched that video everyone has on their phone wherein some black islamists recited verses from a certain book before beheading a black human being...what does that book look like to you? Book of Kama Sutra abi? Is it Book of Ifa or Ogun that motivates Boko Haram killings in the north? Don't reply me with a political angle abeg...just answer the question? Okay if you've forgotten the answer....here's a clue What revealed book is responsible for law such as depicted in the image below: 1. Gynaecologist 101 2. 8thstreetlatinas.com 3. Harem In Islamic World 4. AwuSubilai Nicki Minaj 5. None of the above
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fellis: Is that the best you can do? Bring unconfirmed pictures from anti-Islamic sites?Try ruminating on these ones
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2good: You seem to be very intolerant and you are as foolish as the Atheist you call fool. Why not marry your church sisters and just shut up. [B]With all the religion and god you people make noise about, what have Nigeria achieved?[/B] You Christian brothers are currently involved in a war with the Muslims in Northern Nigeria and you call neutral people fool. You need to have your head examined.Don't say that na...at most Christians achieved quick flight ticket to heaven courtesy of incessant killings up north, Bauchi, Jos, etc and recently BH terrorism...jokes apart....Christians at least made corruption, greed and materialism a norm in the Nigeria societies. You forgot to add that Nigerian...is he senator or legislator that bought a girl from Egypt to be married to him here. At least Christianity and Islam in Nigerian achieved the best noise pollution in the world courtesy of the best ear deafening speakers.
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