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Maynmann:
You are the liar like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

Maynmann:
Are these the same foolish men that knew that this god was god of isrealite and gave birth to a child, they knew all these things?

Men are greedy, is your god also greedy?
I wonder who created the wicked soul, an omniscience god been this insecure just like human beings 😂😂

you created the wicked soul 😁 have you not corrupted your own heart and made it the way you like to believe what you like 😂😂 or is there a god that did that, a god of this world 🤔, 😹😹😹

Greedy men have a greedy god na,

Maynmann:
You are the liar like your creator, what exactly did i say about you?

I truly wish I was like my creator, thank you so much for referring that I am like him. It's a privilege I can only dream about 😌

AntiChristian:
Daily Book Reading: Truth For The Truth Seekers P. 19 – 26 By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman
https://knowislam.com.ng/daily-book-reading-truth-for.../

The reader should bear in mind that we are trying to figure out the origin of the original sin. I have shown how God commanded Adam not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and how the serpent convinced Eve to eat of the tree who in turn convinced Adam to eat also. That Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating of the tree they were commanded not to was the ORIGINAL SIN.

Christianity teaches that Jesus came to redeem us from the curse of this sin, which curse? Before we proceed to looking into the curse Christianity says Jesus came to redeem us from, let us look into how the serpent was recompensed for telling Eve the truth that she would not die the day she eats of the tree of the knowledge and good and bad. We read in genesis 3:14,
"And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life"

NOW, the bible raises a very serious issue here. This verse tells us that the serpent otherwise known as snake being under God's curse became a reptile. Now, we may ask what was the sin of other reptiles we have today such as the Crocodile, Lizard, Snail, etc. If the serpent was recompensed with going on belly, isn’t it injustice to subject some other animals to the same fate having never sinned against God? Another thing to note is that the serpent might have been walking on fours or upright. It would be fun having to see a walking or flying snake and since the serpent was cursed above every animal, it is certain that there were no reptiles. It would be fun seeing a snail walking upright or on fours. That the serpent shall go on his belly was not the only curse God cast on him, God also said "DUST SHALT THOU EAT ALL THE DAYS OF THY LIFE". Millenniums have passed, we have not seen a snake eating dust. Christians really need to reason.

or you reason if what was written was written by a foo...l who didn't know snakes don't eat dust? First such assumption is leading making one who interprets it the fo...ol. The English Bible translate that word to serpent, why not let the Hebrew teach what that verse means? Wait the serpent cannot be figurative or represent something that isn't physical, "I choose to believe that the serpent is a real snake but that God is an imagination" 🤣🤣.

One can clearly read that it was the serpent that was cursed, not man or woman.

The curse of sin is death, the day you do so you will die, let's read on..

Now, having known what the original sin was, who lured Adam and Eve to sin and his recompense, let us look into the effect of this sin on Adam and Eve and why Jesus needed to come and save us from the effect of this sin. In Genesis 3:16-17, the Bible says:
"Unto the woman he(God) said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow, thou shalt bring forth children, and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee"
And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life"
We can read how God cursed Adam and Eve in these verses as a recompense for their act of disobedience. Christianity teaches that we are all under the effect of this curse and except there is a perfect sacrificial lamb that could serve as atonement for these sins, we would not have salvation. According to Christianity, this sacrificial lamb is Jesus.

I am talking about Hebrew when simple english is hard, for u to think what God said to them was a curse is confusing. It is a curse for man to work? Man will begin to toil because he will leave the garden, women will need to bear children because the curse of death is operating on your lives. God is so wicked that though they were to die after eating the fruit, they lived for 900+ yrs, He is so wicked that he clothed them, and told them a way to live in this new world of there's.

How would you understand value of the cure when you can't even diagnose the disease properly. Is this called quackery 😂, quark. U don't even know that the curse of sin is death, the wages of sin is death, the soul that sins shall die, so how u want to understand the value of the solution... Let's continue

Before proceeding to refute the idea that someone needs to come to die for our sins, let us see if the curse the Bible said God rained on Adam and Eve could be justified. While tracing the origin of the original sin, I pointed out how God warned Adam against eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 2:17).

but left out the repercussion of eating it, wait either you are blind or acting blind or desire to blind others 😒

Therefore, prior to eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil. In fact, we can liken them to dummies.

a dummy is one who named every creature brought to him without God telling him anything, a dummy is the one who had conversation with "serpent and God". Who exactly is the dummy? If that's what defines a dummy then ain't you one as well

Why should God curse Adam and Eve for something they did having no knowledge of either good or evil? Anyone reading this should not hesitate to ask an evangelist anytime they show up at your doorstep. This is also a question a Christian reader should reflect upon.

🤣🤣🤣 are you really not a dummy? You quoted, God said they should not, isn't that knowledge of what to do and what not to do. Now you are claiming they were cursed for ignorance. 😒Are you confused, no be only reflection na deflection. Even if I am not a Christian I can see how dumb your logic sounds. Who said they had no knowledge. So someone without knowledge can speak words abi 🤣🤣

Since Christianity teaches that Jesus came to die to redeem us from the curse of this sin, why are women still going through pain during childbirth? Some even die. Has man stopped hustling to make ends meet? What then is the significance of this bloody redemption?

shut up, which sin, by yourself you assume something by yourself you conclude. The sin of ignorance, the curse of child bearing and labor and sweat on the field.

What is the significance of redemption, now you are talking, call it bloody all u like, na wicked people kill Jesus

The Bible says in Deuteronomy 24:16:
"The father shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin"
We can also read in Ezekiel 18:20:
"The soul that sinneth shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
These verses are refuting the idea that anyone shall die for the sins committed by another, we read further in Ezekiel chapter 18, verse 21 says
"But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die."
Verse 22 says,
"All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live"

now do you understand when it says Jesus TOOK OUR SINS, meaning he made it his own. O, u think he would have die without having sin. Impossible na, even the Jews knew that. The only way he could die is to have sin in him, but since he couldn't sin, well by now you can figure out what I am saying.

By the way Jesus didn't do that for the unrepentant wicked O, he did that for his friends those who no matter what they do will still have sin the day they die

A Christian reading this should ponder as these verses portray the loving nature of God not a supposed creator that holds all mankind responsible for the sins committed by two people and would not forgive the people till he kills his supposed only begotten son. Verse 23 of Ezekiel chapter 20 says:
"Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?"

Common sense and nature tells you a tree produces fruit and it's seed produces trees after there kind. Except you want to say you do not have the wickedness that your parents or family has 🤣, children are like there parents or family 😒 if not they won't be children if they don't take after. God doesn't take pleasure in punishing the wicked but he has to show mercy to the afflicted and judge wickedness, if not he won't be a just judge. So he shows his justice and mercy in that he can comfort the afflicted and redeem the wicked if they repent.
The point of responsible to remind those who do good and those who call themselves Christians what God said and who He is

The reader should not hesitate to ask anyone preaching that Jesus must die for us to be saved to answer this question the Bible said God asked in Ezekiel 18:23.God wants sincere repentance, not a bloody sacrifice. Jesus whom the Christians claim came to die for their sins taught his disciples to pray this way,
"Our father, who hath in heaven
hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come
thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven
give us, this day our daily bread
and FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US..."

One may ask, why is Jesus whose mission was to come on earth to die for our sins enjoining his disciples to ask God for forgiveness of their sins? Was Jesus aware not of his mission?

because the sins He died for are not the sins of the unrepentant not the sins of the wicked, but the sins and mistakes of the merciful, the ignorant, the captives not those who mislead others and are captors, not those who refuse to stop murdering and killing the innocent, not those who refuse to stop being wicked. No these ones who love their wickedness and their wicked ways and refuse to repent will all perish, all workers of inquiry and works of the flesh will all perish.

Yes God wants repentance not bloody sacrifice, he desires mercy not sacrifice. Like Abraham said God will provide for himself a lamb and God did he provided for himself a lamb.

Obviously as fathers we see it as our responsibility to pay for the mistakes of our children

Maynmann:
There is no another, does your god have another himself?

It’s you that said your god created everything from himself, so how did your god seperate himself from himself to create the first man?

Dem don use monotheism brainwash you.

if you believe I am brainwashed why bother asking me?
If you won't let me answer, what's the point of asking?

I asked you questions you did not answer

You leave my answers and lie against what I have said, you have chosen already to believe a lie, even if it means lying about what I have clearly written so that you can accept it as my response.


I asked you why do you want to know how he created the universe from himself, and a simple question like that you have no answer. Does that mean your questions are baseless or have hidden motives.

Besides are you not fo..olish to think that if a man knew how God created the universe wouldn't he use that knowledge in some way or even attempt to create another universe. So dumb, even men won't tell how they make some things to outsiders how much more you think God will come and tell a wicked soul how he created the universe 🤣🤣🤣

Please make it make sense

sonmvayina:
You said YHWH means the one who reveals.

Where did God reveal that he will send himself to earth and becomes his own son to sacrifice himself to himself, just to convince himself to forgive us our sins ?

In the old testament?

Before Mathew, Mark, Luke and John started writing their fictional gospel stories?

not sure whom or what you are quoting but I believe YHVH is the one who does what God says or said He would do. If you didn't get that my apologies.

First off God didn't send himself, the Father sent the son. Any other teachings is false. If you ask when the Father first promised to send the son, as revealed and written by Moses, from the very beginning, recorded in Genesis after the fall of man.


Now if you already believe there writings are fictitious why bother asking?

If you are 100% certain, proof and all, that it is a lie

Maynmann:
If you believe your god created everything from himself, then this first man is he not created from god himself? And this first man is God?
How did your god separate this first man from himself?

Isn't that the idea of making one like another to dwell and act in one's stead

Besides
Why do you ask, do you want to separate yourself from yourself?

Maynmann:
He created it from “himself” as you said.
So what did he create? Is that not “himself”?

if you believe that what he created from himself is himself, do you even believe that you, better still, the first man is from God?

talented321:
Gohf:
I believe u are using your christian midset to talk anyhow u like.
Who told u people who you don't believe in ur religion are evil, does it mean u can't think for urself apart from the bible.

are you offended? Did I tell you anybody told me that people who don't believe in religion are evil, or is this one of your weird imaginations again. How u make and mix things up in your head. Even when you read a statement you can't take it as it is, is it a wonder that even if God appears before you you won't accept that God exists. Please, if u want to think for ur self, think for urself, who is stopping you. Does who do good are obeying God's command to do good.

I don't believe in religion stuff does not mean i am evil, i am living a legit life with family without taking advantage of others like you christians do and use church to back it up.

you are not evil, yet you lie against people, you have prejudiced against them and are quick to condemn and justify your self, your thoughts and your actions. Even if you stole a little to feed yourself wouldn't you justify it, apart all aint you better than those who do religious and political scams

The reason why u nigerians reject trdaditional worship was because it hate lie, you can't try the nonsense you doing in the name of christianity with trdaitional worship.

story, I bet you're not a traditional worshipper or ever were, I just heard stories. If they are soo good why did u leave or why haven't I joined them?

Christianity has the worst set of leaders who enrich theirselves from their poor members like you and use the bible as back up.
For ur information you religion folks are more evil than those you call evil.
Please i want know ur gender before we continue.

My gender has nothing to do with continuing, you already assumed I am a poor member, assume my sex. After all you are right in your own eyes, and others are wrong. Wait isn't that the same thing you just the Christians for. Pathetic.

Even the devil uses the Bible, if some so called religious folks are evil, what does that have to do with the ones that are actually good. In your myopic reasoning everyone of them is evil because some are bad, and you think you are good.

Maynmann:
He created the whole universe from what?

no be u ask this one

Maynmann:
It is you that dont understand yourself.

If everything is created from your god, is your god not everything?
Your god is the creator and also the creation.

you asked where did creation come from, it came from God

Is everything that comes out from you, you? Is your sweat, saliva and shit you?

MaxInDHouse:
First of all TRUTH connotes what everyone can testify to without dispute so you must provide indisputable proof of what you call TRUTH and allow doubters to languish in torment trying to disprove what is undeniable.

one truth, all men die. Do you know how I reacted when someone said, "I didn't believe it until I actually saw someone dead, I was shocked to my bone" please does it make any sense that in a world where people die daily, some get shocked that someone dies. Even with that truth some still live in denial, and you think there ever will be something everyone agrees to.

Something can be true even if everyone denies it, it doesn't change that it is true. So your basis of validating the truth is off, what you will call that is popular or public opinion, what the general public accept is "true" even though it's a lie.

The Bible and all it's messages are written by people we don't know and things found in the book aren't happening for real today so if that book is true you can't expect those reading it to trust what they read simply because it was written and compiled, remember that humans have written and compiled books in volumes so they can't easily believe that another book should determine how they will live their life!


So why believe the Bible?

true, written by some people, so why believe the Bible? It's a choice, either a person believes or they don't

Well Bible provides satisfying answers to many questions that has to do with life.
It provides wise counsel on day to day life how we can live and enjoy whatever we do whether we have little or much.
It gives sure hope about the future of mankind and tells us how we can find peace lovers with whom we will live forever under God's kingdom.

Anybody can raise objections on the first two but the third what we all need to consider and think deeply about.

Who are the peace lovers around us with whom we can share the Good News of a happy future?

Lots of people around you are atheists in the making because they want to solve all their problems now so the hope of a brighter future under God's kingdom means nothing to them yet many of them attend religious sessions but they are not believers.
That's why many of them are furiously questioning what they were told in the past now that they have doubters everywhere backing them up to ask thought provoking questions that none of their religious leaders have answers to!

what makes a person not to believe, it is actually a desire

A person can believe there is God because they desire such
A person can disbelieve because they don't desire such, they question how does his existence help me or serve my purposes

Believe will always be a choice. Those who desire a God will go to where God is, those who don't will go to where He isn't. One can't desire both at the same time

Like you wrote because they want things now, they question if they should believe for some kingdom like future.


The truth stands the test of time not the acceptance of people, it will prove true in the end.

Maynmann:
So the universe is god itself?
Or how did your god separate himself from himself?

if you couldn't understand my previous answer how do u think u would understand my answers to this questions?

vdestro:
And you are back to the "i dey go read/i don read chapter 1-4 (telling/preaching part) which we have already settled, so no issue then.

and what you just wrote makes sense, how?

vdestro:
Not really.

Good and evil is already here with man whether people accept God to obey Him or not.

it's already here with man, true. But what defines good and evil?

Moses wrote in the book of Genesis how that came to be.

I am telling you that all those who do what is good and right already obey God.

How many people go to a new country and memorize all their laws. If you don't steal, are you not obeying their laws. If you walk outside by 9pm and there's a curfew you didn't know about, haven't you broken their law already.


What exactly is God's command, is it to do evil?

Vdestro, if people refuse to obey God all they do is evil. Who taught your fathers good and evil, when laws were good and righteous they found their basis from God's command to do good and love, be kind to strangers and foreigners. If were not the case, it would be a lawless state.


God simple says, give in to the good in you I will reward you, give in to the evil, I will punish you. Is that bad, is that something to reject, not like rejecting it will stop him from punishing the wicked or blessing the good but rejecting or accepting affects us and what we choose to do.

Kobojunkie:
It is an even bigger problem that the vast majority of those who claim to believe in the existence of God and in the existence of some sort of rewards for their mere belief happen to also be some of the villest beings out there.

please with all due respect shut up, so what if some wicked devils also believe in God, didn't the Bible also say they do. It that an excuse to not believe in God. Then it's very easy to make people doubt God, be wicked, publically claim I believe in God and make others not to believe. That is supposed to be a good enough reason

● The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did not ask any man to go out there to argue His existence to those who chose not to belief so I wonder the meaning behind these pretend rituals that has become typical of those who claim to believe in Him.

you can keep wondering yet you already call it pretentious because you know their heart abi
Like I said shut up, if you don't want to say God exists you can keep shut. What do u think an argument is, people don't believe their is a God yet they question other people's believe in him an refuse to accept what they say then label them crazy just to justify their own unbelieve. You think believers go about trying to force anyone to believe, they get attacked for what they believe because they go about proclaiming that their is God.

● To those who belief in Him His one and only mandate from even the time of Adam has been absolute obedience of His teachings and commandments, yet to date, those who believe in Him are most notorious for making up excuses for why God should not be obeyed. Where God commands love, these people project hatred on those who dey deem their person enemies. So God's idea of good is not found in them, making them so much worse than the unbelievers who believe in and live their idea of love.

so those who claim to believe but don't actually obey are the reason why does who don't believe don't believe. Are you not one person that projects hatred and dislike towards any form of worship that doesn't agree with what you believe. You want to judge others when there's a mighty majestic log lodging in your eyes

● if professing belief in God makes you no better an individual to your neighbor or the next man then the one who in his unbelief gives of his best to his neighbor, by what standard do you assume yourself less unrighteous than the other? Certainly not that which is of God.

by the standard God sets, to obey and do his will. You ask a question but u won't humbly wait for an answer, u already assume "certainly not that which is of God"

MaxInDHouse:
It's only the truth that can reach the heart of all humans fairy tales of dead people suffering somewhere makes no sense logically and scripturally.

So let's find out the truth first before expecting people around us to take faith seriously!

Oya how u want take find the truth?

Maynmann:
He created the whole universe from what?

from himself

talented321:
Contributing 10k or 5k to build church houses does not mean u are rich, many of this people went as far to go and borrow money to contribute, because the rate of the brainwash is so high that many of them have lost them sense of reasoning. Go and check the top ten richest pastors in the world and u will see it is occupy mostly by nigerian pastors, because their follower are so timid and dumb that they made all those cash from their poor members. And yet when they build school from the money they get from this their followers, they still have to pay high amount before their children can attend the same school he use their money to build.

lol, u choose to easily believe nonsense and lies yet you question their believe?

Do you know how much in dollars some of the ministries receive. Do u know how much Jerry Eze makes from his online NSDPP. Do u know how many branches worldwide they have, lol, do u see the cars that drive into those church buildings. Even your governors go, did one governor go n do ushering in one church. They are also part of the poor abi.

And u calm down and tell yourself that what you are saying makes sense 😒. You think rich men don't have spiritual problems abi or problems medical science can't solve. Be deceiving yourself. You think it's poor people that built the churches. Meanwhile most poor people, market people no even send God. They are focusing on their pain and suffering. Oga rest joor. U think because someone is poor they must be stupid or they are too gullible or good as to go and dash church money.

You think every poor person is like that

talented321:
Make it more clear, i don't get ur point.

Even though it's a lie but to you it is true that "they are always talk ill about science," as if people were not building from the very beginning, as if the ark or temple were not built, as if all those in scientific world are non-christians. But you choose to believe your imagination of reality

Then you also believe this, even though it may be a lie
"Why people stick to christian stuff was because they were brainwashed at the tender age." You call it brainwashing, an easy explanation for u to give on why they believe something that obviously doesn't make sense to you. The same sense you use to imagination what is false and incorrect.

"Imagine at the age of your early thirties or forties, one person from no where will just come with one book and tell you that u will go to hell if you don't believe this so called book." Is it about believing a book or about believing a God. To you the book is real but the God isn't, but why don't you want to believe that book, are u scared that the evil you refuse to repent of, the people you may have hurt or cheated that you refused to make peace with, and the things u did u cant get away from them. Are u scared of some judgement against the wicked 🤣🤣🤣 if u are not wicked why does it bother you that some choose to believe it.


"And the worst part is, they are ready to kill u if u question this there so called book." Lol ready to kill you 🤣🤣🤣🤣 to what end😒, don't you see you are scared

talented321:
To protect u does not mean u will not die, for e.g when u see the untimely death of young and vibrant children, innocent women and men who has little children to carter for. Did u know with the demise of their parents this little children are now left to suffer.
So you are now telling me if you have the power to save your dying son and you will not save him, all because the world will full. Do u read what u wrote.

true saving a life is different from keeping someone from dying, and I mistakenly assumed u meant live forever in this world.

Now don't assume that bcuz their parents don't die they won't suffer, there are those whose parents stayed alive and made decisions that brought suffering to them. While some got opportunities after their parents died from those sent to help them.

You can't assume one cause of action or direction is better than another.

If I had the power to save someone I would but if I also knew it was a bad and horrible choice would I still do it?

We live in a wicked world where people die every day and then some God promises to give eternal life, just believe it. Abeg what better choice is there, u can't force him to do anything, he made us an offer, perish in a worse suffering or no matter whatever you suffer because of wickedness, do what is right, love and I will give you a world without untimely death, wickedness and sickness.

A gift either we accept it or reject it

Childfree:
Wether a thing called devil or a thing called god told them is not my problem.

The fact that the charlatans deceived gullible people by saying a thing called god who's in the sky told them to collect 10% of people's earning... with other things which they wrote, then you get mind to tell me now that if the thing doesn't require any money from me would I go to him? Lol

Thank goodness you also acknowledge that they scammed people.

Bro there is no sky man anywhere.

okay o, keep telling yourself that one o, but know sha you are no different from those blinded by self delusion na.

Childfree:
No different from what if there is a fairy under my garden

ya no different yet u are scared to answer

vdestro:
You can not stretch out your hand to save someone else when you yourself are trying not to fall.

And the only Person Who can save is Jesus, Who cannot Fall.

So, all of us should be looking to Him to save us.

so he wasted his time sending us to love and preach, to care, to bind and cast. Of course Jesus saves, but doesn't he save those who are brought to him.

Or did Jesus come to you himself or u found him yourself, and after such he told you not to bring anyone else to him, even those who may want to be saved but need a friend to lead them to him.

MightySparrow:
I asked him if he believes in Jesus as a Muslim. He should just go ahead and put the passages he qouted to work.


He doesn't believe in Christ.

isn't it a waste of time explaining something to someone who refuses to believe especially what is being explained is based on believing

Childfree:
That a thing called god told them to collect 10% of people's earning?

it might as well be the devil telling them, what is it to you

Don't people scam others with using the name of God, don't people use the name of God in heaven.

If God asked you to come to him freely without paying, would you go? Yes or No

Childfree:
Did I tell you I buy to into the thing called god or whatever to you?

Why the hell would you be asking me if I would accept, believe or follow a leadership of some man bla bla bla

Some primitive people wrote some book that a man is in the sky said you should believe him and worship him blablabla...

Common we are adults, behave like one

adults? U think a little knowledge and a few decades makes one an adult or is adult to you all knowing. Cut the crap

Yea some crazy primitives wrote some nonsense about a guy, a man as u put it in the sky.

I don't care if u buy into it or sell it, lol. I asked u if it were true what would you do.

Who care what one man personally thinks or imagines in their head. I asked you if there really is a man or a God in the heaven what would you do.



If you build your whole love believing something you can't even proof whether he is up there or not, what makes you different from those who build their lives believing he is there even if they can't prove it?

Or you think your better because you don't believe? 😁 Answer my questions child

vdestro:
Encourage one another does not mean drop your book and serious preparation to start telling other candidates to read and prepare seriously.

None of us did that when we were preparing for the exams of our lives.

It was sufficient encouragement to say "me i don go house go read o" or "i don cover chapter 1- 4, so around 7 o clock i go start to dey study chapter 5.

And no one ever called this selfish. Even the hymn confirms it

I’m pressing on the upward way,
New heights I’m gaining every day;
Still praying as I onward bound,
“Lord, plant my feet on higher ground.”

No, we, only "i".

So everyone whether atheists or churchgoer would use their free mind and right to "i" along with me or do as they please. It is not by force.

like I care what a hymn says

This is what love is, what love does. That u see someone about to fall and u stretch out your hand to help them.

If love isn't the path or goal of salvation then such salvation is useless

You say those who do good because they wish to flee from a possible coming wrath of a "so-called imaginary God are foolish".

You call those who choose to take precautions against a possible destruction foolish

Then are you wise, because you wish to live your life carefree. Are you wise because you do evil and don't repent of it, after all there is no God to do anything to you.

What if there is a God, what if there is a coming destruction, Mr and Mrs wise aethists and antichrist what will you do?

You who's knowledge is limited who does not know tomorrow neglects a warning that doesn't even harm you, is that wisdom.

If you feel you are wise to not be afraid of God, after all these people say the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. What then are your precautions when this maybe wicked entity comes to take your life.


Please make it make sense.
Millions, Billions throughout history have examined the idea called God, where did it come from. But what if there really is a God, how do you save yourself? With missions and bombs, and nuclear weapons, a being said to have created the whole universe ?

Childfree:
It is the foundation of the god idea you embrace. They said, a book said, bla bla bla

a book? Nah, that's not what they said

They said a God, say it plainly are you afraid to say it.

A book written by men who claimed to have encountered a God said he was going to judge the wicked, u either don't care or u are scared.

Answer my questions childfree

I will ask you another one, what if all what is in that book is true... What then do you do?

So what if there's a God and He is sending people to hell or lake of fire for all the evil they refused to stop doing, what would you do?

How would you save yourself from a being that created the whole universe as he attempts to let your soul get destroyed. (Not like he has to do anything if it's already 'programmed' that evil will be destroyed)


What do you gain if you gain the whole world, die and some dude comes back to life and enjoys 'all you have worked for' (Illustration)

What do you gain when you die? The whole world you accumulated or what? Did men who were buried with their wealth go with it?

So if you do have a soul, what happens to it, what happens if there is life after death, will you come back and change your ways?

Abeg make it make sense

vdestro:
When you were writing your waec/jamb exams, did you take time pursuing and ensuring that your classmates were reading and preparing themselves also to pass the exams?

No, you didn't. None of us did for we knew our lives depended on it.

So it is with achieving the standards God has set for us in passing this exam of entering either the new world or lake of fire.

And it is already very very hard to pass as everyone has confessed, so how can a Christian have time to pursue other people to pass the same exam that he himself is writing?

you now think the Christian race is now an examination? U did not read in the Bible where it says encourage one another, strengthens those who get weary or weak.

It's only a selfish competitive spirit that thinks the race for salvation is solely personal and without a care nor love for others.

Obviously we focus on our race but part of that race is helping as many and as much as possible as led by God