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Christianity EtcTo Question God's Existence Is To Question If We Should Do The Good He Says by gohf(op): 8:27pm On Jun 30, 2023
Why you really don't want to believe in God is because you want to do wicked things and get away with it.

To believe in God is to believe His word, which says love and do what is right.

What is the purpose of saying God doesn't exist, it is to challenge his words and say there is no need to do what he says.

Question, if you hate what is right or hate to do what is right why do u feel a need to be right or feel right?


I don't have to do good to anyone after all I don't believe in some reward for doing it. I can do whatever benefits me even if it's selfish and wicked and get away with it, because there is definitely no hell or punishment for my wickedness.


"I don't believe in God" but I believe in doing good, bro don't deceive yourself, it is God's command to do good, to love and to do what is right and not evil."

God is good, if there is no God there is no good, as long as there is good there is God. Just as there is evil, there is good.

You say you believe in good and not in God, you are confused, you say you believe in love but not in God, you are also confused.

What do you think love is, to get what you want? That's lust. Love is to give, even when it goes against self and is sacrificial, it gives for the sake of good.

We don't pay to exist yet we don't believe that out of Love came the existence we have received. We received life freely yet do not believe in the free gift of God.

Abeg make it make sense
Christianity EtcRe: Ask Me Any Question About God by gohf(op): 8:13pm On Jun 30, 2023
I didn't think people were scared of asking questions from the Bible here on nairaland shocked
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by gohf: 8:11pm On Jun 30, 2023
AntiChristian:
I just need all Christians reading this to have faith and pray for me to have just 1 million Kuwaiti Dollar within one week, they say miracle no dey tire Jesus! Lol! grin

1) And Jesus answered and said to them, “Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen. “And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)

2) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Matthew 7:7-8 NAB)

3) Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20 NAS)

4) Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25 NAB)

5) And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11:9-13 NAB)

6) And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14 NAB)

7) If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. (John 15:7 NAB)

cool It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. (John 15:16 NAB)

9) On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. (John 16:23-24 NAB)

A lot of Christians ignore what Jesus actually says in the Bible. They also tend to add things to the actual words to make them say something else. If you honestly and truthfully read these quotes, without adding to them, it is very easy to see that Jesus is not saying that God will think about your prayers. He says God will grant all your prayers. Clearly, God doesn’t grant all prayers and this proves that the Biblical Jesus was a habitual liar.

What do you think about all these statements?
TenQ
Mightysparrow
Ovacoma
Fzmasterz
Gaskiyamagana
SIRTee15
LMAO 🤣🤣 not like if he was telling the truth you would believe Him
Christianity EtcRe: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by gohf: 8:04pm On Jun 30, 2023
Workch:
Can you show me one evidence presented by any of your historians that Jesus Christ walked on this planet and let's end this long argument?

I need just one
even if there's evidence would you still believe

You have Google, there are online books, u can do it research but u lazily sit on your ass and ask someone else to find Jesus for you?

Abeg make it make sense? Lemme guess if Jesus appeared before you the next thing you ask for it make me fly or give me a million dollars
Christianity EtcRe: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by gohf: 8:01pm On Jun 30, 2023
talented321:
Then what is the essense of god since he cannot protect me against danger or death.
What is the purpose of worshipping or praising him, because i understand it is written that he is all powerful and control's everything.
But today a mere humans has the power to terminate the world.
CAN U EXPLAIN THAT?
explain that the first killer was a man undecided

If they are sooo powerful to wipe out the world they should save it na, or at least save themselves from dying.

God should protect you from dying? Like what he did for Cain??

So if they do that for u now u will like to live in this wicked world forever and continue suffering or watching other people suffer abi. Abeg make it make sense
Christianity EtcRe: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by gohf: 7:59pm On Jun 30, 2023
vdestro:
What you have been studying is the churchgoers and churchgoing, not Christianity.

Christianity does not really care about winning souls for Christian knows that it is very easy to lose once soul meanwhile it is very very difficult attaining the standard God accepts. Therefore, the only soul he is busy trying to win is his own.

And this is very very very hard already, so a Christian does not have time to win any other person as the road is very very long and very very hard as satan always attacks harder as he presses on towards the mark.

Thus, the christian is very very busy. It is church goers who people wrongly call Christians, who like atheists who need people to keep company with them.

A Christian does not need that for he knows that winners are those who go ahead of the crowd.



Living has already confirmed that there is heaven (sweet bliss) and hell (sorrow,anguish and pain) and we have all experienced both here on earth, so definitely, they are there waiting for those who choose them
what is this one even saying
Christianity does not really care about winning souls for Christian knows that it is very easy to lose once soul.

Where does this your beliefs come from undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by gohf: 7:57pm On Jun 30, 2023
talented321:
First of i recommend you for peaceful coexistence, let me tell u a brief about myself, my father is second in command at his church he was a christian before i was born. As for me i stop going to church at the age of 14 because i love to live with experience and what i see, he try his possible best to convince me but it didn't work, i talk with reasons.
First of all what mess are you talking about, it is in this nigeria or where, christian folks are very poor they only enrich their leaders. U know why they are poor because they always expect miracles instead of them to go and work, they are busy praying and fasting.
Christian folks are very poor yet they sponsor the ministries and churches and build mega cathedral. Abeg make it make sense
Christianity EtcRe: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by gohf: 7:55pm On Jun 30, 2023
talented321:
Kudos to 1 and 2.
And that number 3. They are always talk ill about science, but today almost everything they are using is from scientists and the devil e.g phone, car, and vice versa.
Why people stick to christian stuff was because they were brainwashed at the tender age.
Imagine at the age of your early thirties or forties, one person from no where will just come with one book and tell you that u will go to hell if you don't believe this so called book.
And the worst part is, they are ready to kill u if u question this there so called book.
even if this is not true this is what you choose to believe, why?
Christianity EtcRe: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by gohf: 7:53pm On Jun 30, 2023
Workch:
1.The have this moral superiority complex in them. You can see this with the missionaries who goes house to house to spread their religion. They always think that they know everything and their little pretty holy book has answers to everything. They think that the whole world should revolve around this book and the book should dictate how everyone live their lives including government policies.

2. They Disrespect other people's beliefs. You can see this in the missionaries who goes house to house to spread this religion. As soon as they see a Muslim, traditionalist or irreligious, they will immediate say we are here to safe you from hell fire. This itself is a very rude and what is worst they even claim the respective deities or rituals as Satan and satanic. Their lack of knowledge of a particular culture and practice and their intolerance in them makes them say this.

3.They are not pro science, the orthodox churches are a little more proscience than the pentecostal churches. The pentecostal churches as a matter of fact are running a deliberate anti-science campaign. They get triggered when they confront irreligious people and at first they try to show how science and Bible gets along well. As soon as you point them out one by one, they will play gymnastic and twist and turn and also cherry picking a few worlds to suit science. When you debunk all of it, they will claim that not everything in science are proven and most scientific theories are just theories and not a proven fact. This makes me laugh, as they don't even know what is a scientific theory means.

4. They are Over defensive. Well this is very much present in all religious people but Christian and Muslims tend to be extremely defensive and denial. Esp when it comes to the basic logic in the Bible.

5. Hypocrites. Yes, they are the most hypocrite people, they critise other religion and yet they can't stand a simple criticism.

6. Cheap behaviour/ religion business. Yes, they normally target the poor people and in the name of charity they try to convert the poor people. Charity is never done sincerely and its more of a religious and business purpose. What is worst, there are several cases where they convert people uneducated ones without their knowledge. This happens widely in rural area in Africa and India.
1. If they didnt have a "moral so called superiority complex" as you put it, if they didn't have that would you still listen. Would you listen to someone who is a sinner like you and cries about their faults and weeknesses, or would you laugh or mock one who tries to do better and do the right thing?

2. If they respected all religions and traditions and still told you the truth would you believe it. Would you believe the truth even if it went against your very believes and pride?

B. Is it wrong and evil to say that those who refuse to repent from their wickedness and evil will be punished. That those who murder and take what belongs to others, those who hate and bear false witnesses sending people to jail and suffering, wil suffer for their sins.

Do you want to live in a world where the wicked do not get punished for their wickedness?

3. Do you believe in Science? If yes, does it answer all your questions about life?

It's okay to belief that this life is all you have, because that is true, the only life the wicked have is in this world.

4. They get defensive, but don't you get defensive when things go against your beliefs?

5. Are you also a hypocrite for criticizing them? For generalising them, does that make you feel good or better about your self?

6. Only the poor? I thought you were informed? You actually think rich people don't get deceived and mislead into giving to wrong scams. If it's only the poor how do fake churches make so much money?




What's the point of all this?


Do you really hate the truth that those who do evil will be judged and perish forever, except they repent and change their ways?

Do you hate the call to repentance and for people to do right, and love, and forgive, work and be a blessing. Do you hate when people speak against evil?
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Still Pay Tithe? by gohf: 7:41pm On Jun 30, 2023
Childfree:
The question was are you still paying tithe and what is the motive of the tithe payment.

You provided your answers, for the Levi to chop...blablabla. my question was answered. What do you want me to do? Argue with you that is isn't so?

You only buttress what I even said.

Some certain folks among primitive Israeli tribe started it. They deceived their tribes men by saying a man in the sky instructed them to collect 10% of their monthly earnings also bring rams, pigeon, grain... It is a sacrifice and offering for the sky man. The priest/Levi are to sacrifice as burnt offering then eat the rest. How can't you figure out that it was just a ploy by some hungry fraudsters to get free food for themselves?
true it could be a ploy, but about those who charge you nothing nor collect anything from you and say to you, do good and do what is right, do you listen to them or ignore them, even if they are not fraudsters trying to defraud you in anyway not care about your material possessions but your life and soul
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Still Pay Tithe? by gohf: 7:38pm On Jun 30, 2023
Childfree:
Aren't you a Christian?
are you afraid to answer my question?

You attack those who may be misguided in their believes. Yet are you afraid to even believe or follow anything good and true.

I can assume you avoiding to answer means even if God is good you will not believe in Him.

You ask if I am a Christian, how do you expect to know if I am like Christ if you do not even know Christ?
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Still Pay Tithe? by gohf: 6:47pm On Jun 30, 2023
Childfree:
What do you mean by "worship under him"
Worship what? Leadership what?

Oh I got it. You are one of those people who believe that there is a man in the sky, he has a book and that he needs worship and money abi?
worship God na, abi na devil u wan go worship shocked

Nah, I am not one of those people 🤷🏽‍♂️

But I guess your answer is NO even you meet a genuine man who does, says and lives the right thing. You won't follow him nor fellowship with him, because your personal believe is no one lives in the sky. Even though that man's God isn't a man in the sky who demands worship and money, you will still refuse to relate with the true God, isnt that so?
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Still Pay Tithe? by gohf: 6:39pm On Jun 30, 2023
Childfree:
What do you mean by "worship under him"
his leadership na,

Oya answer the question, will you worship with him
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Still Pay Tithe? by gohf: 6:28pm On Jun 30, 2023
Childfree:
Someone told you a man in the sky said you should give 10% of your monthly income and he is the one to collect it for the sky man. How does this make sense to you? Is it a levy, tax or what?

They tell you is for the poor. Yet you don't see them giving it to the poor. Do you know how much the pastor makes in the name of offering, seed sowing or 10% from every salary/business earner in the church?
if the pastor is rich or poor and doesn't collect will you worship under him
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Still Pay Tithe? by gohf: 6:27pm On Jun 30, 2023
Childfree:
This is just a way fraudsters have used since way back to milk the gullible.

Some certain folks among primitive Israeli tribe started it. They deceived their tribes men by saying a man in the sky instructed them to bring rams, pigeon, grain... It is a sacrifice and offering for the sky man. The priest/Levi are to sacrifice as burnt offering then eat the rest. How can't you figure out that it was just a ploy by some hungry fraudsters to get free food for themselves?

The elite from the west also saw the trick. They adopted it, revised it, perfected it. In fact wrote a book called it Bible ... Add more juice to make it more appealing to fall for it aka Heaven. Then scare the gullible with lake of fire from the sky man if you don't obey it. Use it to milk their people till it doesn't work anymore.

Then they saw Africa, divide Africa among themselves, use the same trick and Idea of sky daddy to milk your ancestors, carry slaves, resources to build their land... Till they had enough.

Now your same people (aka pastors, evangelist, apostle, man of god, daddy GO) after they saw how gullible you can be. They are employing the same trick. Tell you the sky daddy needs money and you decide to fall for it too.

Common this is 2023. Have some sense abeg!
even if you find a church that doesn't collect tithe will you still go and fellowship with them
Christianity EtcRe: What To Do When You Think God Has Called You? by gohf(op): 11:23am On Jun 27, 2023
Kobojunkie:
God's call went out from almost 2000 years ago to all of the Lost sheep of Israel when the Kingdom of God became available and every single person called was called by God to becoming a priest in His Special Nation of Priests- Exodus 19 vs 6. What this means is that all those who feign calls that set them apart from all the others in the Kingdom of God -- Pastors, mogs, bishops, prophets, primates, leaders, GOs, authorities, Teachers, GBs, etc., --- are frauds --- no such call comes from God. undecided
undecided
Christianity EtcRe: What To Do When You Think God Has Called You? by gohf(op): 8:30am On Jun 27, 2023
Kobojunkie:
God never called any of your pastors or mogs , popes, Priests, bishop's, apostles, prophets. He warned you that the religion of men is of the antichrist --- lies -- which nullify the power of God and render worship of no meaning - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 10 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 undecided
but but God called you undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Things To Know About Prayer Partners And Prayer Points by gohf: 8:27am On Jun 27, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Have you ever met a single righteous man in all of your walks? I am asking you to be honest. undecided


I ask because most "Nobody is Holy" Christians out there believe, against God, that God in fact answers their prayers in their unholy unrighteousness. Is God a liar? undecided
God is not a man that He should lie
Christianity EtcRe: Things To Know About Prayer Partners And Prayer Points by gohf: 1:32pm On Jun 25, 2023
hopefulLandlord:
Work hard to make your heart desires come to pass. praying is a futile attempt. there's been no single study that points to prayer being useful. Templeton Foundation (a religious group) ran a study and found out prayers are useless

You would have the same success praying to a milk jug as you do praying to god -- the milk jug sometimes answers your prayer the way you want to, sometimes not and sometimes the answer is delayed. See the problem here? If things turn out the way you want them to, you say it was because you prayed. If not, it's because god knows what's best and you didn't pray for the right thing. Or, if it happens 10 years later you say god answered your prayer, it was just delayed. This is nonsense. You would have the exact same effect doing nothing.
God answers the prayers of the righteous, how many righteous people did they find to conduct their research.
Christianity EtcRe: Things To Know About Prayer Partners And Prayer Points by gohf: 1:27pm On Jun 25, 2023
Likoya:
Bunch of fools.... I'm still waiting for God to answer all the prayers you lots have been prayer for Nigerian for over 60 years now, even the Israelites no suffer reach 60 years before God answer them, so I wonder what is taking Una own so long....Keep deceiving yourselves...Your pastors be giving you people holy water to travel with for protection, but when them want to travel, if convoy of 50 bullet proof cars no follow them, them no go commit for house 😁 just keep decieving yourselves
praying for Nigeria 🤔 what prayers

That the wicked should prosper and enjoy or what, because I do not understand how you want wicked Nigerians to be enjoying when wicked men rule and they celebrate.

If it's prayer for salvation, people are getting saved, if it's prayers for God to save and help his people from the Pharaohs of Nigeria, God dey do am na. Dey Der, people don dey exodus commot 9ja, some don exodus commot d suffering, some still dey cross the "red sea".

Obviously there are fake and false men of God selling water and urine and people are buying, bcus some what they want isn't salvation or God's way but an immediate answer to their desires
Christianity EtcRe: Things To Know About Prayer Partners And Prayer Points by gohf: 1:22pm On Jun 25, 2023
Righthussle:
How I hate organised religions. My Christain mother always disturbes me about becoming a Christian. I told her I'll practice the religion the day their god reverses the curse he placed on women that makes them experience pain during labour. She said "that's not possible , that means you don't want to be a Christian" and I asked her why. Please can some tell me why that is not possible.

Is the Christain god no longer god ?
Is he no longer powerful ?
Can he not forgive and reverse the curse?
Is the suffering not enough?
lmao you think say na curse him place on top women. Mehn, u neither know God nor his word.

Oga go and understand what you are quoting before you start making demands.

You open your mouth talk say na curse, 🤣🤣🤣. no talk am outside o
Christianity EtcWhat To Do When You Think God Has Called You? by gohf(op):
When a person, man or woman, begins to think they have a call from God or are called by God what's the first thing they should do?

1. Is it to tell their pastor or a man of God
2. Is it to quit their jobs and open a church or start a ministry
3. Is it to go to Bible college or the like


I believe the very first step to take is to verify that it is the true God calling you. Believe me when I tell you this, the devil is in the business of "calling people". Today you may hear someone you least expect to announce they are now pastors or women of God. It is a thing of joy when a soul heeds the voice of God, but it becomes worrying when, no offense even unrepentant people, some so called celebrities announce they are now pastors or preachers. I too rejoice when unbelievers repent but to make a huge jump from altar call to mounting the altar should be discouraged when there's no verification of a genuine call from God. Even Saul took years to become apostle Paul.

When seeking verification, this is another place of possible deception. Genuine men of God are aware to be careful of the laying of hands and whom they appoint into ministry. When we look at option 1 above, going to a man of God, apart knowing if this man is genuine when you're truly called of God there's a witness in your spirit about whom the Lord will send your way or whom the Lord will direct you to. Secondly you must check if the said man of God has a recorded of just appointing and laying hands on just anybody. Paul spoke about the support he got from Peter, a man who refused to lay hands on Simon even after been offered money.

You don't want your call to be questionable, so no matter how popular a said man of God is, if he has a record of appointing fakes don't go to them for verification.


Some verify their call from God through manifestation. Now not all manifestations comes from God, for the devil sends false prophets and teachers working diverse miracles and signs. Remember God told Moses if a man says something and it doesn't come to pass that man is fake, now but what if it comes to pass, God then said that he will let false prophets to go and test his people. The second verification God revealed was to check whom these men are leading the people to. Do they lead you to worship the true God or idols. Do they lead you away.

Now if there are manifestations after your calling, praise God, if there is a conviction of sin and a supernatural nudge for righteousness and holiness that doesn't result in condemnation but salvation that it's the Holy Spirit at work with you. A person can preach righteousness and still be false, because there is no conversion and no true salvation of souls. Only the Lord God Almighty saves.

Now in the question of quitting anything, it must be on God's direction and not on man's opinion (including yours). But this is what the scripture says, any man who doesn't forsake all and follow Jesus cannot be his disciple. So being a disciple of Christ Jesus is not dependent on a call but on one forsaking all, picking up his cross and following Jesus. So you may not have heard a voice nor seen a vision or dream and still be qualified to be his disciple.


Now the third action one may take after thinking they are called may be going for training, be it at a Bible college, under a man of God or to some mountain. Now this direction should be based on God's leading (assuming it's God's calling). Now do listen, stepping your young foot on the wrong ground can pollute you. Many men are ministrying under the influence of a man's spirit and not God's spirit. Whatever functions in the life of a man you submit to may influence you also. So a genuine calling may become corrupted with the wrong teachings but the Holy Spirit won't let God's children go the wrong path easily. The problem also is that one who may have been deceived will get encouragement to go ahead and become a "servant of God".

Not saying discouragement is a good thing, but it is important to discourage those who have the wrong motives or spirits from ministrying to God's people. Now how you react to discouragement may even verify you are genuinely called by God. Humility is the right reaction and God responds by pouring more grace to encourage. But a forceful determination may be driven by ego and flesh.

Now I have not covered everything just a part.

If you're called care to share the first step or steps you took
Christianity EtcRe: Ask Me Any Question About God by gohf(op): 8:59am On Jun 25, 2023
Good morning, happy Sunday
Christianity EtcRe: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf(op): 8:58am On Jun 25, 2023
Good morning, happy Sunday
Christianity EtcRe: Enemies Will Ask For Forgiveness by gohf: 2:57pm On Jun 23, 2023
Mynametoluilori:
Let them gather and do harm , you cannot see everything around you but it is only time when you work with God, they are trapped in their ways cause does who go after people business never knows when their business is turning other ways. Hence with God you must overtake the enemies. I have one of the largest enemies you can imagine , been to UK and return empty is enough to tell you but here I am they come looking for me in USA . Is it my power ?
so you need God to forgive you of your sins so you can be free
Christianity EtcRe: Ask Me Any Question About God by gohf(op): 2:54pm On Jun 23, 2023
Maynmann:
You don’t even know what “bible” means, keep gobbling it cheesy
🤔 I do and I will 😁😌
Christianity EtcRe: Looking For A Church Not After Money by gohf(op): 2:53pm On Jun 23, 2023
Sirbruno3000:
Name and address of your church
it's a fellowship for now and we hope to relocate towards the express once we get a bigger place.

Gates of HOPE fellowship, currently at Captain Abule Egba
Christianity EtcRe: Ask Me Any Question About God by gohf(op): 2:51pm On Jun 23, 2023
Maynmann:
You don’t understand the books you are gobbling, yahweh worshipper.
books? Apart from the ones in the bible I don't know much else 😇
Christianity EtcRe: Ask Me Any Question About God by gohf(op): 10:37am On Jun 23, 2023
Maynmann:
What was there before the beginning?
Before the “word” what was there?

You said it yourself he only started creating in the beginning of his existence.
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.


Your god is male gender, did he create the gender or that’s how HE came in the beginning?
What is the difference between a man and a woman?
Which features/xharcat of man does your god have?
my apologies you don't understand my answers 😔 🙏
Christianity EtcRe: Ask Me Any Question About God by gohf(op): 9:10am On Jun 22, 2023
Maynmann:
What do you call “beginning”?

Anything that has a beginning surely has an end.
the beginning is the word of God

In the beginning God created
In the beginning was the word

The very word said, "I am the beginning and the end"

The only existence before or beyond the beginning is the speaker of the beginning, the creator and Father of creation.
Christianity EtcRe: Ask Me Any Question About God by gohf(op): 6:04am On Jun 22, 2023
Maynmann:
Where was the word before the beginning?
what you call "before the beginning".
Christianity EtcRe: Ask Me Any Question About God by gohf(op): 10:49am On Jun 21, 2023
God is good

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