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Jashub:
There is oga . Look at communist China . Look at how Mao slaughtered 1.2million of his own people yet, he saw nothing wrong with it. Or what about Cannanites who offer children to Baal and considered it righteousness...or how about Aboringin tribes in south America who considered it normal to cannibalize on their fellows thinking that by consuming the flesh of their dead enemies , they would also be consumkng the strength of that enemy, which they thought , would making them more powerful than before . So how do you condemn such people ?

See , each and everyone of us has his or her own sense of right and wrong, but what condemns one from another is a Standard that's above us . That's where the God factor comes to play

😏 if a child set on fire a bag of paper would you see it as wrong?

Now what if you see that paper is actually money being burnt? Is that child wrong?

jaephoenix:
How does your write up explain your topic?

did you not understand the question (topic)

Jashub:
So in other words you don't know why it's wrong to kill babies ...? No wahala sha. Peace

smh, I do know
Peace

Jashub:
You don't have the power to do that sir . Because each and everyone of us would then have his or her own sense of right and wrong .

doesn't everyone already have their own sense of right and wrong, called conscience

orisa37:
They are not WICKED but UNRIGHTEOUS.

are the wicked not unrighteous and the unrighteous wicked?

Jashub:
You've not answered anything. So why is it wrong...why is it wrong to kill babies ? What justifies us not to kill babies and harm the innocent ? Secondly, whose standard of justice are you subscribing to ...and please dont tell me it's your own , because that would be stealing from God.

Simple answer it is wrong to kill if you don't want to be killed nor treat anyone in a way they don't want to nor in a way you don't want to be treated.

Jashub:
So why is it wrong to kill the innocent or baby ? Please tell me

I have answered you already

Why is it wrong to kill the innocent, when there is no justifiable or good reason to kill them. Would you be pleased if I killed you.

There are murderers, those filled with bloodlust, they don't even kill animals for the sake of food but as some form of sport or fun. They derive pleasure from other people's pain to them it's not wrong but to those who get killed for NO good or just reason isn't it wrong, don't they feel wronged.

If someone takes your life (snatches it forcefully from you), is that right or wrong, would you be glad or pleased.

Simple answer it is wrong to kill if you don't want to be killed nor treat anyone in a way they don't want to nor in a way you don't want to be treated.

Jashub:
And you believe those things to be true ? Let me ask you another question : why is it wrong to kill babies ?

not all the things I have learn or heard are true as much as they may be helpful.

Who says its wrong to kill babies, except you assume it is wrong irrespective of the reason.

Anyway it is wrong to kill the innocent, the righteous.

If a baby is in irreversible pain and dying, would it be wrong to kill it. If we are talking about the baby of a tiger that would grow up and kill people, why not kill it if there is no one to tame or train it.

Good morning have a grace filled Thursday

Jashub:
No child knows anything about morals without being taught . So back to my question: where did you get your sense of morality from ? Because I know it did not come as a default code in your head.

it didn't I was taught and I learnt from what I read, heard and experienced

Kobojunkie:
1. The source of my guilt was depression which I had struggled with from my childhood days. Yes, it is possible to have a depressed brain.

2. You can also be riddled with fear simply because your brain chemicals run haywire 24/7. Mental illness can do that to anyone. Irrational fears are not uncommon with folks who struggle with such things. They are quite aware of the problem only they can't make it stop of their own will.

3. I am sorry, why would I need to have changed in regards to how I feel about religious bigots hiding their atrocities against their fellow men behind the name of God, something even Jesus Christ vehemently railed against the Pharisees for?

4. You actually think that your Pastors and mogs are not aware that they are using the name of God to perpetrate that which is against God alls so they can benefit their kingdoms here on earth? Do you actually think those of them who seek and use God's name for political power and fame don't know that what they do is in fact against God?

5. Attack? I don't attack anyone. Instead, I point out the lies religious folks feed others using the name of God. Separate? Well, I don't believe in a religion that is born of the doctrines and traditions, lies that Jesus Christ warned His followers to steer clear of. God never gave men religion, to begin with. What that means is that the religion of Christianity and also Judaism have absolutely nothing to do with that which God in fact gave His people. What gave instead gave were Laws, His agreements which He bid the people to obey. I live by God's Law, Jesus Christ, not the religion of men.

Wow amazing glad I read this

Evening lovelies 😊

Kobojunkie:
Please let's cut the bull!

I used to be an atheist myself, and I can tell you that even then I fear religious folks more than anyone else back then. I personally never afflicted any man intentionally and was always racked by guilt as I did all I could not offend my fellow man given I was very much aware of how deep such things cut. Yes, I was an atheist but compared to a lot of your religious folks who attack and cast down that which you don't understand, I was pretty much a saint even in my unbelief.

There is nothing more horrible than to watch people who believe their form of lunacy is sanctioned by a God somewhere. It is just disgusting to behold whichever way you turn to look at it. From the lies below from pulpits and speakers from religious houses to the attacks on the weak by the religious mighty... it is all disgusting to watch how religious zealots convince themselves that in their numbers they are right to use the name of God to cover their filthy and terrible acts against their fellow men.

I am no longer an atheist today, thanks to God and I don't subscribe to religion either as I abhor the idea of serving under any man when I can directly have a relationship with God, and in my knowledge of God, I know for a fact that those who of you who use the name of God to perpetrate your private brand of evil against your fellow man are the worst kind of evil out there today.

You never inflicted any man intentionally but did you inflict unintentionally? Was that the source of your guilt?

You are cutting the BS by saying some things I don't completely disagree with.

You can be afraid of anyone who threatens or frightens you maybe because of what you're afraid to lose. The question is as a former atheist what were you afraid of? Were those people really the source of your fear?

Okay 😅 I am not trying to be a therapist but you don't seem to have changed, there still seems to be an awful feeling left towards them. So much so that you seem to unconsciously direct it (that disgust) to anyone whom you think speaks for God.

Obviously those people are either not aware that God doesn't forgive those who misuse his name or they do and don't care, meaning they are pretending to be what they are not which is not uncommon in this world.

So does attacking or separating yourself others make you different or justified or are you still afraid?

Jashub:
I have a question for you : where did you get this sense of morality from ...? Is it from religion or from your own personal reflection?

answer me this does it really matter?

Have you ever seen a child who already knows morals without being taught?

Watch how children behave when they know no one is going to punish them. Who teaches them to misbehave or is it naturally or is because we set rules for behaviour.

Personally I don't care what you believe, be it God, Allah, Buddah, no god, science or whatever. What does your believe make you do.

If you feel hurting people be it physically, emotionally, mentally in whatever way just because you enjoy it is a good thing then you're sick and may not even know it. Because at the end you hurt people around you and yourself. You don't need a special hell because somewhere you have created it already for yourself.

if you don't believe in God and you don't behave better than those who claim to, how exactly do you feel at peace with yourself.

Someone who doesn't believe in God nor has heard of God but does good and right isn't really bothered if God exists or not. If God exists fine, if God doesn't exist fine, it won't stop them from being nor doing good.

jaephoenix:
I'm arguing with someone quoting what is in the Bible. Which other way am I supposed to reply him if not via the Bible? Am I supposed to quote the Quoran or Brahma?
Or are you one those dumb christians that think atheists don't know the bible?

o you're an atheists lmao

jaephoenix:
So the long and short of this long episode of hogwash is Yahweh allows heathen to prosper so he can punish them in hell? Quite interesting. It makes sense only that same Yahweh said these…

Psalm 37:38
But transgressors will be altogether destroyed;
The posterity of the wicked will be cut off.

Proverbs 14:11
The house of the wicked will be destroyed,
But the tent of the upright will flourish.

Psalm 94:23
He has brought back their wickedness upon them
And will destroy them in their evil;
The Lord our God will destroy them.

Psalm 28:5
Because they do not regard the works of the Lord
Nor the deeds of His hands,
He will tear them down and not build them up.

Psalm 73:19
How they are destroyed in a moment!
They are utterly swept away by sudden terrors!

Psalm 92:7
That when the wicked sprouted up like grass
And all who did iniquity flourished,
It was only that they might be destroyed forevermore.


2 Peter 3:6
through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water.

Proverbs 10:29
The way of the Lord is a stronghold to the upright,
But ruin to the workers of iniquity.

Ezekiel 13:14
So I will tear down the wall which you plastered over with whitewash and bring it down to the ground, so that its foundation is laid bare; and when it falls, you will be consumed in its midst. And you will know that I am the Lord.

Hosea 7:13
Woe to them, for they have strayed from Me!
Destruction is theirs, for they have rebelled against Me!
I would redeem them, but they speak lies against Me.

Daniel 8:25
“And through his shrewdness
He will cause deceit to succeed by his influence;
And he will magnify himself in his heart,
And he will destroy many while they are at ease.
He will even oppose the Prince of princes,
But he will be broken without human agency.

Philippians 1:28
in no way alarmed by your opponents—which is a sign of destruction for them, but of salvation for you, and that too, from God.

1 Timothy 6:9
But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction.

Romans 9:22
What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?

Philippians 3:19
whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things.

2 Thessalonians 1:9
These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

2 Timothy 2:14
Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers.


2 Peter 2:3
and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

2 Peter 2:12
But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed,

2 Peter 3:7
But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

Jude 1:10
But these men revile the things which they do not understand; and the things which they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed.

Peter-2 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destructionPeter-2 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction

Hosea 7:13
Woe unto them! for they have fled from me: destruction unto them! because they have transgressed against me: though I have redeemed them, yet they have spoken lies against me

Isaiah 59:7
Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts [are] thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction [are] in their paths

Isaiah 1:28
And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners [shall be] together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed

Proverbs 21:15
[It is] joy to the just to do judgment: but destruction [shall be] to the workers of iniquity

Proverbs 10:29
The way of the LORD [is] strength to the upright: but destruction [shall be] to the workers of iniquity

Psalms 55:23
But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee

Deuteronomy 7:23
But the LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them with a mighty destruction, until they be destroyed

Chronicles-2 33:9
So Manasseh made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to err, [and] to do worse than the heathen, whom the LORD had destroyed before the children of Israel

Kings-2 16:3
But he walked in the way of the kings of Israel, yea, and made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out from before the children of Israel

Leviticus 25:44
Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, [shall be] of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids

In fact I can go on and on, your whole Bible is replete with warnings against being wicked and heathen. So how then would the same Yahweh be rewarding and prospering same heathens?

Never said he was rewarding them😏, I particularly love that Romans 9:22 😋😋 enduring someone with such patience because they are still going to be destroyed anyway 😂😂😂

I mean who doesn't like a God who will punish the wicked, don't you just love the fact that ALL who refuse to repent and change from their wickedness will be punished, all who have killed so as to have wealth, politicians who have lied. Young people like you and me who have decided to be evil and do evil without mercy will not be shown mercy.

Even though God was kind to them and gave them time to repent, even sent his messengers to them.

Are you not happy that those who have killed the innocent will be punished, or are you one of them, or their supporters.

Or are you the wicked who takes the little of the poor and laugh at the heavens thinking you will never be punished for it because God is still kind and waiting for you to return what you have stolen 😁😁😁

Or are you a deceiver that encourages people to be wicked and tells them there is no God who will punish them, thereby encouraging wickedness and trying to hide the result and effects of your wicked words 😯😯

Or would you like a world where the wicked will get away with their evil, so you can post there is no God and laugh in the face of heaven

Or are you afraid that there is a God like the bible said and all your words and lies will be held against you 😏😏😏

God is kind to them because He is kind, He is patient so that they will repent but He is also just to judge those who have been hurt and wounded, He is the judge of all the earth. Even those who are forgiven suffer by the hands of God how much more those who do not repent.

The long and short is that if you could quote the scripture Peter-2 2:1, and still twist posts into lies

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction

then you must really think there is no judgment anyway for wickedness and you will get away with it

So why complain if God allows anyone to fool themselves, if He even let's you to. I am sure you have nothing to be afraid about a God somewhere who would let you do whatever you want and judge you for it. I mean he should have stopped you. 😁😏 like teachers stop students who don't listen in class from writing rubbish and failing their exams

jaephoenix:
So in other words, Yahweh is kind to heathens but aint close to them?
Can you explain what these terms mean in this context?
Because Yahweh is awfully kind to heathens, and I dare say kinder to them than his own people. Imagine those irreligious/heathen are more advanced, healthier, richer etc than Nigeria which inarguably has more christians

Since you seek knowlegde of the truth, then listen if you have ears

Job lamented

Job 21:7-20 “Why do the wicked live, become old, yes, and grow mighty in power? Their child is established with them in their sight, their offspring before their eyes.Their houses are safe from fear, neither is the rod of God upon them. Their bulls breed without fail. Their cows calve, and don’t miscarry. They send out their little ones like a flock. Their children dance. They sing to the tambourine and harp, and rejoice at the sound of the pipe. They spend their days in prosperity. In an instant they go down to Sheol.

They tell God, ‘Depart from us, for we don’t want to know about your ways. Who is the Almighty, and why should we obey him? What good will it do us if we pray?' But their prosperity is not of their own doing, so I will have nothing to do with that kind of thinking, the mystery [of God's dealings] with the ungodly is far from my comprehension.

"Yet the wicked get away with it time and time again. They rarely have trouble, and God skips them when he distributes sorrows in his anger. Are they driven before the wind like straw? Are they carried away by the storm? Not at all!
" 'Well,' you say, 'at least God will punish their children!' But I say that God should punish the ones who sin, not their children! Let them feel their own penalty. Let their own eyes see their destruction. Let them drink deeply of the anger of the Almighty.

Isn't God kind by letting them prosper, letting them have a world they rule in before they perish.

Psalms 73:3-20 For I envied the proud when I saw them prosper despite their wickedness. They seem to live such a painless life; their bodies are so healthy and strong. They aren't troubled like other people or plagued with problems like everyone else. They wear pride like a jeweled necklace, and their clothing is woven of cruelty. These fat cats have everything their hearts could ever wish for! They scoff and speak only evil; in their pride they seek to crush others. They boast against the very heavens, and their words strut throughout the earth. And so the people are dismayed and confused, drinking in all their words.

"Does God realize what is going on?" they ask. "Is the Most High even aware of what is happening?" Look at these arrogant people— enjoying a life of ease while their riches multiply.
Was it for nothing that I kept my heart pure and kept myself from doing wrong? All I get is trouble all day long; every morning brings me pain.
If I had really spoken this way, I would have been a traitor to your people. So I tried to understand why the wicked prosper. But what a difficult task it is!
Then one day I went into your sanctuary, O God, and I thought about the destiny of the wicked. Truly, you put them on a slippery path and send them sliding over the cliff to destruction. In an instant they are destroyed, swept away by terrors. Their present life is only a dream that is gone when they awake. When you arise, O Lord, you will make them vanish from this life.

Don't the wicked hate the idea of an eternal judge for fear that they wont escape their evil even in death
Didn't God say

Malachi 3:13-18 "You have said terrible things about me," says the Lord. "But you say, 'What do you mean? How have we spoken against you?' "You have said, 'What's the use of serving God? What have we gained by obeying his commands or by trying to show the Lord Almighty that we are sorry for our sins?
From now on we will say, "Blessed are the arrogant." For those who do evil get rich, and those who dare God to punish them go free of harm.' "

Then those who feared the Lord spoke with each other, and the Lord listened to what they said. In his presence, a scroll of remembrance was written to record the names of those who feared him and loved to think about him.
"They will be my people," says the Lord Almighty. "On the day when I act, they will be my own special treasure. I will spare them as a father spares an obedient and dutiful child. Then you will again see the difference between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not."

There is a song in psalm that says

Psalms 92:6 Only an ignorant person would not know this! Only a fool would not understand it. Although the wicked flourish like weeds, and evildoers blossom with success, there is only eternal destruction ahead of them.

Ah did James not write

James 5:1-6 Look here, you rich people, weep and groan with anguish because of all the terrible troubles ahead of you.
Your wealth is rotting away, and your fine clothes are moth-eaten rags. Your gold and silver have become worthless. The very wealth you were counting on will eat away your flesh in hell. This treasure you have accumulated will stand as evidence against you on the day of judgment.
For listen! Hear the cries of the field workers whom you have cheated of their pay. The wages you held back cry out against you. The cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty.
You have spent your years on earth in luxury, satisfying your every whim. Now your hearts are nice and fat, ready for the slaughter.
You have condemned and killed good people who had no power to defend themselves against you.

Jesus spoke a parable about the rich man and Lazarus, hear what Abraham said in the parable

St. Luke 16:25 "But Abraham said to him, 'Son, remember that during your lifetime you had everything you wanted, and Lazarus had nothing. So now he is here being comforted, and you are in anguish.

God is kind to allow the wicked make a choice, propser in your wickedness in this world, die and perish in hell or repent and be a blessing to others even if you suffer in this world ruled by wickedness i will make a new world where you wont die in.

Zephaniah 3:13 The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth; for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.

jaephoenix:
Good.
You just said Yahweh doesn't answer the prayers of heathens but a few posts away you said this…
This was your post…
Luke 6:35 But love you your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and you shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind to the unthankful and to the evil.

Can you explain, bro?

being kind to someone doesn't mean being close to them, you can be kind to a beggar doesn't mean you listen to them, do you?

Good morning everyone

jaephoenix:
I want a clear cut answer. I know why I'm emphasizing on it. I wonder why you're evasive. Answer the question with a Yes or no

no

jaephoenix:
All these verses are irrelevant to our discourse.
Does Yahweh answer sinners prayers? Does he heed the supplications of those that curse him?
Yes or no

your questions have long been answered, you just don't accept the answer.

Whose fault is that

MaxInDHouse:
How do you support them?

how ever way you support that which is good.

Do unto others as you want to be done unto you.

If Jesus was walking the earth, would you house him and offer him a meal, would you speak kindly and give him water to drink, would you listen to him when he tells you to forgive that person who hurt you badly or visit your parents or family who offended you in the past.

Would you prefer to count your millions or help feed the hungry and cloth the naked. Would you spread love and joy if it means not buying an extra car or house for yourself. Would you support those who say the truth even if you would loss your job or your life.


Are people really ignorant of the good they should do, or do they feign ignorance and mock those who do it

MaxInDHouse:
How do one IDENTIFY genuine men of God and how do you show love to them?

"who do not ask you for money or special seed" but tell you to serve God will all your heart, with all your soul and with all your might and love your neighbor as yourself.

You love them by obeying God's word that comes out from them, by supporting their God's given assignment.

correctguy101:
Very much aware of that bro.

Just idle this morning, no mind me.

😊 thanks for engaging all the same

correctguy101:
Na church wey dem dey share money we dey find o

doesn't everything have a price. Would you collect it without knowing what it would cost you?

chatinent:
I am aware that there are aspects of the church that require financial support for upkeep and construction, but what exactly do you name something like this? Why is Africa the continent with the highest religious population but also the lowest standard of living? Isn't this theft in broad daylight? How exactly does one commit theft in the name of God proudly, and instead of being wise, you see their brainwashed sheeple defending them?

Am I the one who is mad?

Dem dey tell you if you need sth make you ask God. But dem mah if dem need sth, dem tell you to bring money. Does it mean you pay God for everything? Then how is Christianity free? How much is devil na?

It's no surprise that the world's most influential preachers are all billionaires. After all, the money does not make its way to "God." It ultimately ends in their accounts as well as the accounts of their families. And they get around in fast cars that are bulletproof, while you, the fool, have to constantly pray to God for safety as you keep attempting to make the appearance of your impoverished state look more appealing. Some even have private jets not even church-sponspored aeroplanes for members! Private jets o!

How much does it cost to be wise?

Absolutely nothing!

The other day, it was one man who'd just built a gas station. He invited his so-called prayer warriors to cast and bind the land for good returns before he opened the station officially. After the whole charade, he sent the lead man ₦200k. And that was after the four prayer warriors had strangled four wraps of fufu each to a goat meat soup, and a carton of malt on standby to step it down. Is that all? No. Other members were also seated in two canopies salivating for their turns.

Who do Africans like this?
So we dey bribe God? Abi na tips?

I don go church, pastor release anointing, everybody fall, I no fall. And I position for front. Omo, pastors met me after the service and was like "it's like you are new here." Oh, yes, I am new...nobody told me I'd play Nollywood roles here. Seriously? I thought it was the "holy Ghost" who make people fall. So naso una dey act the script? So there are sets of things to do when a pastor preaches, speak in tongues and release anointing, and you members bring the act to reality? Like you fall on your own? You act like you are in the spirit? You deliberately do everything to program a 'spiritual' moment? All your sheribalabala kokoko rashidi yekini yamaha kawa toyota suzuki you claim are gifts of the spirit are actually utter nonsense with a touch of drama while sweating? So una dey learn all these things on how to be in the spirit? And if you no sabi do am well, you are removed out of the theatre...sorry I mean, church..and made a floor member so better performers can do it? You never even reach 40, you don complete one adage.

Why dem no go use you? When you wholeheartedly ease their con artistry?

Even if Jesus come earth, some people will still prefer their Daddy GOs to him. At least, that one gives them the act of what they consider as 'man of God." Him bi man of God and you na member of the finance committee abi? Abi no bi same Jesus come earth to make you man of God too? But you shifted your responsibility to an intermediary while you bribe God to understand through him.


Dem dey use Naira for heaven?


Givers never lack, givers never lack...pastor, who you dey pay your tithe to? Abi you wan lack? Abi na only when en reach my turn, then, there's more joy in giving than there is in receiving? Who da fck told you I dey feel joy to give you 10% of my salary? Cos I never catch you say na you dey chop am? No bi you say God is a rich God? Can't I give voluntarily? Can't I not give sometimes without you making it a crime? Why you do First Offering, Second Offering, Third Offering, Sowing First Seeds, First Fruits, then Final Offering, before Tithe reminders, and weekly seeds? Kuku kill me...shebi na me you dey target? So that if I don't get up, my seat members go dey see me somehow abi?



Una use old testament dey interchange with the new testament. That's why you collect goats, chicken, plantain, yam, etc., as first fruits...and call it harvest. But in the Bible, those things collected were offered as burnt sacrifices. Dem dey burn dem. Una own, na window of your kitchen me dey dey perceive chicken stew.


You capitalise on tithe paying from the old testament but never preach the part where Jesus recognised the widow lady and giving freely as one has resolved, voluntarily, and not under duress. You mah wan call am voluntarily sha, but the schedules and timing with a dance on the aisle for everyone to go around and pay during that period says otherwise.

So make full grown man like me dance around the aisle and not deposit to the offering box?

By the way, how come a pastor will just marry and the wife becomes auto-Mummy G.O and a pastor. So una dey do pastorship-by marriage? E no clear.

Make we no talk about miracles sha. Jesus moved from city to city doing his. Pastor only na him church. Why not go into a morgue and resurrect sb, as Jesus did Lazarus? Una regular anthem na "do I know you, have I seen you before, did we discuss anything?" Oga, how we wan take know? Naso Jesus do? Enter mortuary do "all of una, come out" as Jesus did na. Jesus didn't even capitalise on miracles, he was more of preaching the kingdom of God and its heirs. He was more of those heirs getting eternal life in the Kingdom and not prosperity campaigns going on in every crusade, church, and Facebook ministry pages.

Portable was actually right. Dem dey preach make you no sin so you go go heaven but pastor no wan go heaven. Hence their taste for more wealth on earth, and protection. Of course, make we commot eyes for church money, na pastor get am. No wonder there are more churches in Nigeria than schools! The kingdom of God is at hand but you dey buy Royce Phantom and Bulletproof Mercedes.

If heaven was so important to them, why protect their lives so much? Why do with security? Isn't heaven the so much longed eternal bliss?


Crazy thing is that churches dey full every Sunday but thieves dey steal, ritualists dey kill, fraud dey happen steady, and country no dey go forward.

Clearly, the devil has relocated for an infinite vacay.

Can a fool be wise?

Lalasticlala mynd44 Dominque Seun

After all this, hope you show love to the genuine men of God who do not ask you for money or special seed

Good morning, may you have a blessed morning today

jaephoenix:
Dont pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. Don't Christians give offerings after testimonies in churches?

some do some don't
What does it matter to you

jaephoenix:
If I understand you, then that means you fail. Do you mean yahweh doesn't love sinners but still grants their wish?

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures. James 4:3

jaephoenix:
Your point?
You have an uncanny knack for muddying the water

hmm, thought you would understand